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    Sapphire quietly launches X1800GTO²?

    "Sapphire is a well-known ATi partner. Their graphic cards and motherboards are popular world-wide. It seems that Sapphire has shipped many X1800GTO2 units to world-wide shops already. Sapphire introduced the GTO2 line with their X800 boards. The GTO2 name is quite popular due to its price, overclocking, and its high potential unlocking extra pipelines."
    http://www.ngohq.com/showthread.php?t=6487

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    Maybe unlock? whats the price compared to x1900gt?

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    BS. Gimme 36 Shaders for $80 more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam
    BS. Gimme 36 Shaders for $80 more.

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    Probably a BIOS mod will turn it into an x1900XT.

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    Are you sure its based on the same PCB? I didnt see a picture or whatever.

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    huh? the x1800gto2 has got exactly the same specs than a x1800xl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz!
    huh? the x1800gto2 has got exactly the same specs than a x1800xl?
    It looks to be a x1800xt 512mb @ x1800xl 256mb speeds (and voltage as shown by the overclocking results), a completely different product than the x1800xl. It has 512mb of 1.2ns ram, which is quite a bit better than the 256mb of 2.0ns found on the x1800xl/gto and 256mb 1.4ns on the x1900gto, and the same as the x1800xt, although it looks like it will priced cheaper than the x1800xt 512mb currently available. A price cut to those cards making them the same price would essentially make this card useless. If it's cheaper though, grabbing one and soft-modding it for some volts should yield the same result...in theory that they're not cores than can't hit XT speeds...and that would make it a worth-while product.

    It seems to be another x850xt in GTO2 clothing, albeit x1800xt 512mb in x1800gto2 wool, although who knows if it can hit XT core speeds at XT voltage as they could be crappier cores, although considering it has the XT dual-slot cooler that's a (stock) plus, and once W1zzard gets ATi tool working for soft-volts we'll see. I doubt Sapphire put it on there for kicks. I think it could be a very nice product to compete with the 7900gt if someone doesn't want to mod the GT, or prefers ATi-leading games.

    Well, that is, if it's priced comparatively to the 7900gt, which the x1800xt 512mb is currently not afaik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz!
    huh? the x1800gto2 has got exactly the same specs than a x1800xl?
    That as a surprise for you ? I hope you werent expecting an X1800XT An X1800GTO is nothing but a quad-disabled X1800XL to start with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam
    That as a surprise for you ? I hope you werent expecting an X1800XT An X1800GTO is nothing but a quad-disabled X1800XL to start with.

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    Well I certainly hope to god the retail units have 512Mb of ram or MORE otherwise it'll be just a waste....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step
    Well I certainly hope to god the retail units have 512Mb of ram or MORE otherwise it'll be just a waste....
    more??? lmao.. i highly doubt the card is powerful enough to utilize more than 512mb of ram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam
    That as a surprise for you ? I hope you werent expecting an X1800XT An X1800GTO is nothing but a quad-disabled X1800XL to start with.

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    Like Turtle said in the post above yours, X1800GTO² is supposed to have 512M of 1.2ns ram, that makes it a different beast

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
    more??? lmao.. i highly doubt the card is powerful enough to utilize more than 512mb of ram.
    Set your computer to 2048x1536 and EVERY once of Eye candy on.. then you will see why more ram will be greatly useful
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    I guess some people can tell the difference between 7 and 9fps

    Others would just go for an X1800XT
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    I assume you're talking about the 512mb/256mb differance...Yeah, I pretty much agree with that considering one card will mostly be unplayable in most new games at resolutions where it is useful, but if these pack the 512mb for around the price of the 256mb alternatives, bring it on. At least you'd have better support for uncompressed textures without going to the page file, right? Never hurts.

    I figured you guys prolly saw this at the link Coop provided, but there is a link to it for sale in France, albeit it says it's GDDR2 and the card/box are not of the actual product: http://www.grosbill.com/fr/informati...VIVO--Boîte

    It is 512mb.

    Considering it's priced there at approx the same price as the x1800xt is available for (a little shy of three benji's) it doesn't seem like that hot of a deal, but that is the first shop to carry it and it's hardly a newegg or ZZF. Hopefully when it pops up here in quanitity it'll be found priced similarly to the 7900gt at $250 or so. They seem pretty evenly matched from what I can conclude, not counting a 7900gt v-mod, and that seemingly is where it should be priced, above the x1800gto but below the x1800xt.

    I can't help but wonder if Sapphire will do the same thing with the x1900gt when we see rv570/R580+ in a few months. I wouldn't put it past them.
    Last edited by turtle; 06-19-2006 at 07:56 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step
    Set your computer to 2048x1536 and EVERY once of Eye candy on.. then you will see why more ram will be greatly useful
    From 256mb to 512mb but many games barely use that much. Quake ultra quality around 400+ but rarely. And how many people have monitors at 2048x1536? 1600x1200 is enough for me... Greater than 512mb is rarely useful and just adds to the cost.

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    The R520/R580 takes a huge hit for not having 512mb of ram. Far more of a hit than the G70/G71 series.

    The architecture is very memory hungry.
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    GTOs with ddr2 ram isn't new. They did that with the X800gto too.

    I doubt 256mb ddr2 vs 512mb ddr2 makes a difference. There is no memory bandwith there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam
    GTOs with ddr2 ram isn't new. They did that with the X800gto too.

    I doubt 256mb ddr2 vs 512mb ddr2 makes a difference. There is no memory bandwith there.

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    True but it was the GDDR3, GTOs that shone before and they will again now...
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    My guess is that it's the same as the MSI X1800XL which is a 512mb X1800XT with a low performance BIOS installed (500/500). One BIOS flash later yields an X1800XT running at 600/700 with no problems. Some users even reported successfully flashing with the Sapphire X1800XT PE BIOS, although not everybody had cards that could take 700/800 (artifacts).

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    These have 16 pipes, and more ram gives upto 20% performance boost at higher resolutions.


    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad
    Probably a BIOS mod will turn it into an x1900XT.
    That was a joke, right?

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