conroe Xe is not FSB1333 this year

[overclocker.at]

HT2 is very real. Conroe XE has Hyperthreading. 2 physical, 4 logical cores. The XE model will move from 2.93/1006 in Q3 to 3.33/1333 in Q4/Q1'2007. Don't be so quick to assume that every uncredible news source is always 100% correct. Things change too, what was true yesterday isn't always so today.

-FCG

HT2 surely
I cannot believe it but I hope it

[irev210]

no need to hope.

I love how guys all over the net are starting to argue about intel vs amd.


I dunno why people cant leave their emotions at the door.

[freecableguy]

HT2 is Intel's biggest secret.

[Absolute_0]

I hope HT2 offers some good stuff. If it's intel's secret, it just might

[ORCBEAST]

BRING ON THE NEWS !

Cant wait !

[theteamaqua]

HT2 is Intel's biggest secret.

i cant find anything about HT2, what is it??

and the difference between Core XE 2.9 Ghz and E6800 is HT2??

[overclocker.at]

HT2 is Intel's biggest secret.

really
why you know that...

[irev210]

i cant find anything about HT2, what is it??

and the difference between Core XE 2.9 Ghz and E6800 is HT2??

E6800 isnt going to hit the shelf unti Q4


XE has unlocked multi and HT

[Zyklon5]

If Conroe XE 3.33 got pushed to Q4/Q1 2007 what happened to the previous Q1 2007 Kentsfield 4 core part ?

[BrownTown]

Conroe XE = real
HT2 = not real

hope this cleared some stuff up.

[Absolute_0]

No HT2? fugger and FCG say there is

[Fuji]

No HT2? fugger and FCG say there is

yeah, but if you ask an Intel employee, they say that there is no HT for Conroe/Merom

[alexio]

yeah, but if you ask an Intel employee, they say that there is no HT for Conroe/Merom

No normal HT, because that wouldn't make sense because of Conroe's short pipeline design. If this so called "HT2" is secret I doubt Intel employees would tell us the truth. I don't know how FUGGER and FCG got their info

I think normal HT is a technology that is quite simple. HT2 could be far more complicated and I can see threads being cut into a lot small pieces in a more 'intelligent' way making the short pipeline suitable for HT.

We'll see

[ORCBEAST]

I must admit I never heard anything about HT on these new architecture. Only that HT died off with the last 965EE.


Anyway what do I know...I dont even get ES CPU's lol

Lets wait and see, I take my hat off to INTEL that they kept this a secret if there is HT2.

[Fuji]

No normal HT, because that wouldn't make sense because of Conroe's short pipeline design. If this so called "HT2" is secret I doubt Intel employees would tell us the truth. I don't know how FUGGER and FCG got their info

I think normal HT is a technology that is quite simple. HT2 could be far more complicated and I can see threads being cut into a lot small pieces in a more 'intelligent' way making the short pipeline suitable for HT.

We'll see

At 14 stages, the pipeline on Conroe is long enough to support HT. From what i hear, the problem is with the micro-ops fusion.

[BrownTown]

although if Intel decided to impliment SMT in a new CPU im not sure they would call it HyperThreading, seeing as they got rid of the Pentium brand after the P4 failes, they might also get rid of the HyperThreading name after it failed to provide consistant performance improvements. Although, don't go thinking that only a logn pipeline would benefit form SMT, a wider core like Conroe has would provide enough execution bandwidth for multiple threads. Also, the 2 biggest problems with the P4 implimentation (the replay bug, and fighting over the cache) could be solved seeing as the Core architecture doesn't have the first problem, and the mechanism for locking down caches for differnt cores coudl be used to lcok down caches for different threads, so each would not have to compete for cache room, in additon, 4MB is alot of cache to share.

[Ron 61]

If we only had a time machine.

[metro.cl]

HT2 is Intel's biggest secret.

can you comment a bit what this should do?

inverse ht?

[Absolute_0]

Inverse HT? is that like the thing AMD's working on, turning two cores into one... using software to make 2 cores work on 1 app?

[Turtle 1]

Conroe XE = real
HT2 = not real

hope this cleared some stuff up.

intelia reported last year @ ATF that Xe model would HT . Everthing she said about Yonah and merom (conroe) Everthing she said has been spot on the money. So she pretty much pwned. the ATF forum.

[Fuji]

intelia reported last year @ ATF that Xe model would HT . Everthing she said about Yonah and merom (conroe) Everthing she said has been spot on the money. So she pretty much pwned. the ATF forum.

who is intelia? And what I don't get is why Intel would implement HT and not tell any of the engineers.

[kyleslater]

who is intelia? And what I don't get is why Intel would implement HT and not tell any of the engineers.

There is something called an NDA...

[Fuji]

There is something called an NDA...

There's also Intel publically saying that there would be no HT

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1504

[s7e9h3n]

Conroe XE has Hyperthreading.
-FCG

LOL...Glad to see you're finally convinced.....what caused the change of heart?

[tombman]

I won´t believe HT2 is real until some guys here with ES stuff prove it