Xtreme Twinmos Memory!

**The Stilt** · 01-09-2005, 10:30 AM

Guys, really spoke too early

First when I tested these sticks on Intel platform, 200FSB with 2-2-2-5 settings was extremely unstable. Now I started to test again these stick with memtest, this time on DFI 875P-T LanParty. I found out that Refresh Mode at 64Âµs (ICH offset 69 = 53 instead of default 52 aka 7.8Âµs) will kill completely overclockability of these sticks. With 64Âµs selected these sticks gave hundreds of errors in memtest no matter what the voltage was. After setting refresh mode to Auto (7.8Âµs) these sticks really started to fly

I was able to run benches at 255FSB 2-2-2-5 / Turbo - 7.8Âµs - 70Âµs - Enabled - Enabled - Disabled (CPC) - Enabled with only 3.45V

I disabled CPC because memorycontroller doesnt like to run it on over 245FSB

Sandra unbuffered takes quite big hit when refresh mode is 7.8Âµs instead of 64Âµs and CPC is disabled. After VAGP mod I should be able to run CPC on

Going to try higher voltages tommorrow

**Bennah** · 01-09-2005, 01:14 PM

The Stilt, very good results there

7.8Âµs - 70Âµs whats this ? How can I change it on a AS8. My Mushy BH-5 with auto performance settings gets to 240fsb w/ 3.2v but no higher stable

Ive also tried with CPC off but it doesnt help any.

**The Stilt** · 01-09-2005, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Bennah

The Stilt, very good results there

7.8Âµs - 70Âµs whats this ? How can I change it on a AS8. My Mushy BH-5 with auto performance settings gets to 240fsb w/ 3.2v but no higher stable

Ive also tried with CPC off but it doesnt help any.

You can change it with 865 Tweaker or Pmem.
865 Tweaker

BH-5 sticks doesnt mind about the refresh value, so that probably wont gain anything.

**GazC** · 01-09-2005, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by X-GeN

I have a twinmos ddr333 memory. Which has Mtec 60B chips. And looks as the same as the one in the pic. The weak/year is 0325D

Does anybody know what these chips are? It's definitely not Winbond

Thx

That looks like a Mitsubishi Chip to me, here's a good little site for ram IC spotters

http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/TENJIKAN-DDR.htm

**Bennah** · 01-09-2005, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Stilt

You can change it with 865 Tweaker or Pmem.
865 Tweaker

BH-5 sticks doesnt mind about the refresh value, so that probably wont gain anything.

Thanks. Nice little piece of kit.

Settings are already @ 70Âµs / 7.8Âµs / disabled.

Dont think im gunner get any higher without a good burn in and more voltage.

**Jessfm** · 01-09-2005, 01:53 PM

Well been playing with the Twinmoss (PICTURE LINK) and just can't get them to play ball in the Neo2 like I can on the Intel P4m/IS7 setup( Twinmoss UTT , IS7 & P4m LINK ).

Maximum i can get is 230mhz 2,2,5,2 1T . I know I have boot issues with Vmem (on DDR booster) set > 3.4v , but stability is just not the same. Maybe this will improve with a different NF3 board , but ill hold onto these and wait for the DFI NF4 to become available.

**X-GeN** · 01-09-2005, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Bennah

Thanks. Nice little piece of kit.

Settings are already @ 70Âµs / 7.8Âµs / disabled.

Dont think im gunner get any higher without a good burn in and more voltage.

Could you explain please

**TEDY** · 01-09-2005, 02:10 PM

burn in = running memtest #5 for 30-45minutes till you get few errors, leave it running 6 hours....

bump up 5mhz and redo it again....keep ram cooled with some 80mm fan above them.

**Bennah** · 01-09-2005, 02:33 PM

I usually keep sandra mem bandwidth benchies looping for a few hours and gaming helps alot too...

**GazC** · 01-09-2005, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Bennah

I usually keep sandra mem bandwidth benchies looping for a few hours and gaming helps alot too...

Gaming does make for a pretty good burn in, an RTS like Warhammer 40K : DOW really taxes the CPU for instance.

I used to do burn in like that. I'd set it to a stable overclocked speed, but set the voltage higher than it was needed. This certainly helped. It was also usefull for helping thermal paste bet in on a new build..

**X-GeN** · 01-09-2005, 03:39 PM

Guy's what do you say for 2x512mb OCZ Enhanced Latency ??

What could this memory do

**enok** · 01-09-2005, 04:38 PM

-> "Xtreme Twinmos Memory!" <-

**Benny Lodewijk** · 01-09-2005, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Jack

give us more info

can you post a picture of the mem? or post the codes on the mem?

how many volts are you giving the mem at 277MHz?

nice clocks

i already found this:
TMD7608F8E44D.
Hit FSB 270 MHz timing 2-2-2-5 1T with 3.5volt Vdimm

thanks... i have same code with you

, for 277 MHz i give them 3.7 volt

**pik-ard v1.1** · 01-09-2005, 05:59 PM

@ the stilt- does higher voltage yield any mhz gains at the same timings? or have you not tested above 3.45v?

also, hows this stuff do 24/7 with a ddr booster at 3.5-3.7v? is that 100% stable, and ok to run with?

**Daytime Dreamer** · 01-09-2005, 09:46 PM

Hello everyone! - New user here!

I've been reading this thread from start

I went to some stores here in Greece but I only found AADT memory modules....

I'll continue searching until I find some promising AA4T modules. I want to combine this with a DFI NF4 and some 939 Athlon64 3000+

I've been reading this forum for a year and I thought it was time to sign up

**Klisp** · 01-09-2005, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Daytime Dreamer

Hello everyone! - New user here!

I've been reading this thread from start

I went to some stores here in Greece but I only found AADT memory modules....

I'll continue searching until I find some promising AA4T modules. I want to combine this with a DFI NF4 and some 939 Athlon64 3000+

I've been reading this forum for a year and I thought it was time to sign up

Let me be the fisrt to Welcome you offically to the XS forum.

**Klisp** · 01-09-2005, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by enok

-> "Xtreme Twinmos Memory!" <-

i should have mine today or tommorw. i'll be sure to post pic's of the memory and the highest i could do mhz wise. Cya alittle later guys.

**TEDY** · 01-09-2005, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk

thanks... i have same code with you

, for 277 MHz i give them 3.7 volt

benny can you do me a favour? try them with 3.3vdimm , that's what i have max on my mobo so what Mhz should i expect....around 250 ?

**hipro5** · 01-09-2005, 11:22 PM

Has anyone found 2 x 256MB of them for testing yet?......

**The Stilt** · 01-09-2005, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by hipro5

Has anyone found 2 x 256MB of them for testing yet?......

Should arrive today

**hipro5** · 01-09-2005, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by The Stilt

Should arrive today

He,he,he............I like that.........

**death metal** · 01-09-2005, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by The Stilt

Should arrive today

woot...i can't wait anymore =)

**Bluebeard** · 01-09-2005, 11:52 PM

hipro - just drop me a mail and i will send you 2 modules - best would be in exchange to the ones you still owe me

btw. just put the maximizer inside the package also

**tictac** · 01-10-2005, 12:03 AM

TwinMOS going to test Hipro5 Maximizer... this is cool

**Diabelica** · 01-10-2005, 01:21 AM

I have got one pair of 512 Twinmos coded AA4T and also have the winbond circles.

I can onley checked them on 3,17v and if I leave the timings to "by speed" it does 2,5-4-4-8 at 255fsb.

When I get a chance I will try them on 3,6v..

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