The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[The Coolest]

I'm using the latest bios, 1403.

[Cleatus]

Well, I disconnected all hard drives and it still happens.
I did find a bad memory stick, but I have 8 gigs, with 4GB of the good ram it still happened. I also tested it with the Corsair set from the second system with the same results.
The problem is strange and hard to describe in writing, but what happens in most cases is that the machine will freeze, then it completely shuts down - powers off. Then it powers back on, without POST and repeats the cycle until I cut power to the PSU.
To the PSU comment, I tried a PSU from the other system (which powers it completely fine), with the HD5450 of course, and had the exact same problem.
The 8800 Ultra does work fine, but I don't play games anymore and the 8800 is a power guzzler and doesn't support DXVA. I decided to get a new low power card that could play any media content like blue-ray and bitstream all of the new audio formats.
The weird thing is that the same problem exists with an old card, the x800xl. My assumption right now is board problem, but I hear of this PCI-E 2.0 bug that some of the ASUS boards have, I wonder if this could be the issue here or I may just need to RMA this board...

I have ran ATI cards and Nvidia cards on this board runing both Maximus bios and Rampage...

If you set PCI-e to 105 will the problem settle down?
I ran a 3870X2 and experienced this problem, setting PCIE to 105 resolved the issue and I gained a few extra points in 3DMark, runing my 4870X2 I never had the issue

Board is fussy for sure and I found the later bios's were not very stable nor offered anything 802 is still thebest bios to date imo in terms of stability and bandwidth, flashing to Rampage is a benefit better memory options and better latancy, will it void your warranty, doubtfull as I have RMA'd 2 board flashed to Rampage bios and never had an issue with Asus about it

Wow... MF is up to BIOS 1403 put out 9/22/2009?

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...ximus_Formula/

Any final verdict on that?

I can't believe Grnfinger is gone...

Such a loss.

+1 to that...Don't know what happened but his informative posts and helpfullness was greatly appreciated as this was my first board that I tried to OC and ended up getting me hooked.

So GF, if you read this, HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and your family & all the posts, suggestions & settings help will not be forgotten.

Banned? WTF? This place really is skidding downhill fast.

Indeed. He helped me out A LOT when I first joined.

Very kind words guys, I know Grnfinger very well and will pass on the message to him... I know it will mean alot to him

[The Coolest]

I have ran ATI cards and Nvidia cards on this board runing both Maximus bios and Rampage...

If you set PCI-e to 105 will the problem settle down?
I ran a 3870X2 and experienced this problem, setting PCIE to 105 resolved the issue and I gained a few extra points in 3DMark, runing my 4870X2 I never had the issue

Board is fussy for sure and I found the later bios's were not very stable nor offered anything 802 is still thebest bios to date imo in terms of stability and bandwidth, flashing to Rampage is a benefit better memory options and better latancy, will it void your warranty, doubtfull as I have RMA'd 2 board flashed to Rampage bios and never had an issue with Asus about it

Thanks for the input, I'll try the PCI-E setting tomorrow or the day after.

[The Coolest]

Just tried 105MHz, but it wouldn't even POST.

[Cleatus]

will the nvidia card post with PCIE set to 105?

a quick check on my setting I have PCIE set to 110 with 450FSB
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.35
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X

[ShawnTRD]

Tried the ATI Card in another rig?

[The Coolest]

@ Cleatus
Yes, put the nVidia card back in and got an instant POST.

@ ShawnTRD
Of course. In my P5B, works perfectly fine.

[deepcover]

I just recently installed an ati 5870 and started experiencing crashes on bios 0907. I was overclocked to 3.85 with an E8400. I flashed to the latest, 1403, and now I can't get a decent overclock. My old settings definitely won't even post. Has anyone had any luck with 1403?

[SUBOBO]

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Setting : 8.5 
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 467
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1122 MHz.
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CMD Skew on channel A : Auto
DRAM CMD Skew on channel B : Auto
DRAM CLK  Skew on channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK  Skew on channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# PRE Time : 5
RAS# ACT Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
REF Cycle Time : 40
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5 
Read to Read Delay (S) :  4
Read to Read Delay (D) :  6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4 
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6 
Write to PRE Delay : 13
Read to PRE Delay :  4
PRE to PRE Delay :  1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 4
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 4


DRAM Static Read Control: Enable
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Command Performance level : 08
PULL-In of CHA PHA 1 - PH 5 : Disable
PULL-In of CHA PHB 1 - PH 5 : Disable

CPU Voltage : 1.35625 V
CPU PLL Voltage :1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.37
DRAM Voltage : 2.22
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36
South Bridge Voltage :1.10
SB 1.5V Voltage :1.55
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Controller Voltage REF  : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :  DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :  DDR2_REF
 
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 

Voltiminder LED : Disable

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 


Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : 8.5
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Disabled 
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled 
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

P5E @ RAMPAGE FORMULA Bios 0701
CPU Q9550
RAM KINGSTON VALUE DDR2-533 (MICRON D9GMH)1GX4
POWER TT 850 WATTS
VGA RADEON 5850 & NVIDIA 980GT

[Cleatus]

I just recently installed an ati 5870 and started experiencing crashes on bios 0907. I was overclocked to 3.85 with an E8400. I flashed to the latest, 1403, and now I can't get a decent overclock. My old settings definitely won't even post. Has anyone had any luck with 1403?

I didnt like 1403

[SUBOBO]

Stabilty Test hyper pi 2 Heads


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[Cleatus]

P5E always clocked dualies high thats a nice low volt chip tho

[SUBOBO]

[Cleatus]

Ok I'll play

[SUBOBO]

[Jodiuh]

the pci express bug would effect any card you put in the slot or only the second slot would boot

This?

ATI @ pcie 2.0
NV @ pcie

I noticed in your screenies, the GPU-Z shots for Nvidia and ATI differ. The ATI lists pcie 2.0 right in the picture. Is this an Nvidia thing?

[Cleatus]

Both ATI and Nvidia were affected with the PCIE bug 8800GT's and 1950's

The Asus P5B series were bad for the bug and some Gigbyte P35/DS series
Setting PCIE Frequency in the bios to 105 or higher and Disable "PEG Force X1 seems to resolve the issue for most

[ZenEffect]

those screen shots look awfully familiar. like they were grnfingers.

[Kwayzee]

I keep getting an error every time I try to flash from the p5e to rampage formula 0219.

The error says there's an incompatible rom. I'm using the command afudos /irf0219.rom /pbnc /n

all in one string.. am i doing something wrong?

[Cleatus]

your using the correct AFUDOS version?

[Jodiuh]

Ok, I'm getting a little frustrated. Does BIOS 1403 have some sort of an issue going over 425FSB on quads? I have increased vcore to 1.375, fsbvtt to 1.35, nb to 1.4, but I cannot get past 425 stable. Would flashing to the Rampage help?

Also, I think I used too much paste cause I'm loading @ 57C w/ Prime blend on a lapped TRUE w/ a 1200RPM fan in 25C ambient. Vcore's showing up as 1.176 in CPU-Z during load. It should be like 47C, no?

Thanks!

[Commander_HK47]

Hey all, been awhile since i posted last.

Still trying to take my q9650 as high as i can with this board.

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I can do 400*9 for 3.6Ghz no problem, but that isn't very impressive... I would like to take it to 450*9.

Currently i can take the FSB as high as 430*9 for 3.88Ghz, pass memtest + all day long but can not boot into windows. I can boot into windows at 420*9 though.

What if any thing can be done to get t his 45nm quad to clock higher?
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After stumbling across some information form here:http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...-cpu-skew.html starting at post #6

I am now able to get 430*9 intel burn test stable by delaying the cpu skew by 200 picoseconds. I am also able to Com Post, and load int a windows 7 OS(all be not stable at all once in, if i get in) at my goal of 450x9. I will need to adjust settings further to see if i can get it stable, but will have to go to liquid cooling as the required voltage for a number of parts is becoming to high for air.

If any one that still actively uses this board with a 45nm quad has any advice please do share, Thanks.

[loften]

i do not play with mine much anymore.. i removed the water for my i5 750, installed decent air, some ddr2 1200 memory, put it at 4.0 and gave it to my son to mess with..

[NBK]

Hi,

I just installed Rampage Formula BIOS 1001 on my Maximus Formula. Is there anything else i need to do?



My Rampage Formula BIOS Settings




Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# PRE Time : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 13
Write to Write Delay (D) : 4
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 4
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 4

DRAM Static Read Control: Enable
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Command Performance Level : 08
CPU Voltage : 1.356250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.37
DRAM Voltage : 2.04
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto

[Commander_HK47]

Drop your Performance level down to 5, lower is better. You will see a nice performance increase with memory transfer speeds.

You may need to raise the north bridge voltage if your system isn't stable at PL5, but that is normal.

Just run a loop or too in memtest + and then a 20 loop on intel burn test or the like. That will tell you if you need to rash the NB voltage any.

BTW, what cooling do you have on that processor of yours?