First HD4650 pics arrive

[ToTTenTranz]

It's actually the FireGL counterpart, the FirePro V5700 which AMD touts as a GPU that boosts application performance.







Rear sticker says "RV730" on the 4th line.

-320SP GPU
-128bit GDDR3
-UVD 2.0
-No extra power connector! (<75W)

http://ati.amd.com/products/firepro/specs5700.html


I don't know about GDDR5 support but it would make sense to reach the previous-generation HD3870 performance (maybe a bit more if they can push the core a bit higher).

[RaZz!]

the plain plastic cooler on the atis always looks like some el cheapo plastic toy for kids :F

however, with passive cooling i think this card is nice for a htpc.

[waver_01]

If it's basically an Rv670 with improved AA perf than it would be a great card. Better than than the 9500gt that's for sure

[ToTTenTranz]

the plain plastic cooler on the atis always looks like some el cheapo plastic toy for kids :F

however, with passive cooling i think this card is nice for a htpc.

This is just an engineering sample. Gaming versions should have stickers with hot chicks and stuff.

[Calmatory]

So close to HD3870 performance under 75W? I'm sold!

[Miwo]

320SP = 4 out of 10 SIMD Cores
Texturing will be equal to RV670 if clockspeeds are the same, but I doubt it seeing its going to be a lower power card

I think it will fall somewhere between a 3850 and a 3870 in most situations, but when heavy AA is used it should be better. Either way, great C/P! Hope to see an AIW version for the HTPC folk

[Macadamia]

The price is the best part. Not immediately after launch, give it 3 months.

[ToTTenTranz]

I think it will fall somewhere between a 3850 and a 3870 in most situations, but when heavy AA is used it should be better.

Naah not with 128bit bus.
Unless they make a high-end version with GDDR5.

[Calmatory]

vMem mods can compensate.

If I can get one sub 125 USD, I am happy new owner of this card.

[eXa]

3870 has 72Gbps bandwith and this has a little below 30Gbps. One hell of a vMem mod to compensate for that....

[Calmatory]

3870 has 72Gbps bandwith and this has a little below 30Gbps. One hell of a vMem mod to compensate for that....

Depends how much does it really need bandwidth.

Anyway, it's not the performance, but the low TDP.

[thenrz]

Nice and short!

[clonez]

wonderful

these are going the best oem cards out there (given an expected msrp of 50€; 60$); amd gonna earn loads of money with these
(what happened with those 1.5 million 8600 gt/s cards? havent seen a system with them in ages... probably getting shredded and recycled into solar panels )

so glad those poor chaps not understanding much about pc arent (atleast not all) going to get screwed over with lame cards, and get that crap sold as a "high end gaming machine"

[Miwo]

Yes, there is a huge memory deficit, but better optimizations should pick up a little of the slack (RV7xx over RV6xx). The 3870 had excessive bandwidth and really didnt make much good use of it since texturing was its biggest setback. AA being done in shaders will definitely help the 4650 make up for memory bandwidth. Overall I think the 4650 will be a much better balanced card..

4870 has twice the bandwidth over the 4850, yet is at most 10% faster at the same core clockspeeds, often less.

128bit should be fine for 1280x1024/1680x1050 users, with medium to high settings without much AA/AF - which is exactly the market this card is geared towards.

[ToTTenTranz]

wonderful

these are going the best oem cards out there (given an expected msrp of 50€; 60$); amd gonna earn loads of money with these

Don't expect an MSRP so low.
They should be at least 70€/90$.

[[XC] hipno650]

this could be a nice little card. now the question is how much is the card bandwidth limited? oh and don't expect high clocks out of that little cooler. looks like it will fall below 9600gt levels but looks like it will be cheaper as well

[N00B]

it should fight 9500gt ddr3

[Calmatory]

So what, some 20% slower than 8800GT?

[black_edition]

FireGL (FirePro) and Quadro FX lines runs at lower clock speeds compared to their gaming brothers.

The HD4650 probably is faster and have more bandwidth.

[mascaras]

HD 4670 Crossfire Outperforms HD 4850


Pre-release 3DMark tests show that two Radeon HD 4670 graphics cards in Crossfire multi-GPU mode outperforms a single Radeon HD 4850 card. The HD 4670 cards score just a little above the HD 4850 in three tests that include 3DMark06 in Shader Model 2.0 mode, the same benchmark in SM 3.0 mode and 3DMark Vantage.

The cards scored 54xx 3DMarks in SM2.0 and 65xx 3DMarks in SM3.0 tests, a 4850 on the same test-bed produced 49xx and 57xx respectively. With 3DMark Vantage, the Crossfire setup churned out 7300, with the single HD 4850 just 100 points behind at 7200. These scores can be attributed to the raw texturing power the HD 4670 cards have despite memory bandwidth advantage staying with the single HD 4850. Indications are that the HD 4650 won't scale as well since (at least reference models) lack hardware Crossfire.



GPU Café


http://www.techpowerup.com/70840/HD_...s_HD_4850.html

regards

[clonez]

crossfire with those is still a no-go, when you want to drive high resolutions (and their more expensive)

but they must have done something serious with their memory system....
thats crazy how good that bandwidth is used

[spicypixel]

Wow, thats some damned awesome stuff coming out of ATI, 9500GTs in SLI get you where? (someone post benchies?)

[y2kbos]

Wow, thats some damned awesome stuff coming out of ATI, 9500GTs in SLI get you where? (someone post benchies?)

http://tech.sina.com.cn/h/2008-07-07/10302308762.shtml

[clayton]

9600GT Low Profile is where it's at. You can even make your own wannabe gaming console like I did. >=)

[Eastcoasthandle]

Not a bad card.