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    Corsair [and others] will launch DDR3-1866/2000 in August

    I've had it confirmed (more or less) that we can look to some real high-end modules in just a few months.

    The only one I'm perfectly certain of is Corsair, but there "might" be some sticks coming from OCZ, A-DATA, SuperTalent, Micron, and Samsung.

    We're talking DDR3-1866 to DDR3-2000 in Q3. No info on the latencies, but I'm not sure i even want to know that. Mainly 1GB modules though.

    I'll get back when I know more

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    Do note that the DDR3 info is not from the link in the source.

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    Timings on thous memorys are damm to high. Is Mhz really more importent than timing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DataNusse View Post
    Timings on thous memorys are damm to high. Is Mhz really more importent than timing?
    Bandwidth is more important than timings. Timings havent mattered much since the 939 days. And C9 is not as bad as it sound if you calculate the actual time in ns.

    Keep in mind that the actual latency in nanoseconds is what really matters, so while the number of memory cycles from DDR2-533 CL3 through DD2-667 CL4, DDR2/3-800 CL5, DDR3-1067 CL7, and DDR3-1333 CL9 increases, the actual latency in ns only ranges from 11.25ns (DDR2-533 CL3) to a maximum of 13.5ns (DDR3-1333 CL9). While CL7 may sound like a high latency, achieving that with 1333 MHz memory is actually results in a time latency of 10.5ns, and of course that's with much higher bandwidth than some of the other memory speeds.
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    hm.. so that time when timming was importent has past.
    Well, good to know.
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    well, actually, cl2 at 400mhz lasts exactly as long as cl4 at 800mhz

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    Don_Won explained it quite well.

    While the timings of DDR3 are higher, the bandwidth goes up and the actual latency [ms] is decreased at higher frequencies.
    This is due to the fact that the frequency is so much higher that it can compensate for the higher number of timings/cycles at each step. It's not a perfect solution, but there's not really that much we can do about the timings. The bandwidth on the other hand, that really matters today and that is where DDR3 will really shine.
    Latency will be overall lower with DDR3, but the scary timings are getting a bit too much attention to be honest.

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    how much? IIRC it's like >$300 a stick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don_Won View Post
    well, actually, cl2 at 400mhz lasts exactly as long as cl4 at 800mhz
    except for the fact that DDR2 usually runs at 2T...

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    It will be interesting to see whether this will improve the performance on Core 2 Dou system.

    I guess its should help a lot for Quads core, but will this have any effect on a normal 2 core Intel Cpu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Teroedni View Post
    It will be interesting to see whether this will improve the performance on Core 2 Dou system.

    I guess its should help a lot for Quads core, but will this have any effect on a normal 2 core Intel Cpu?
    It wouldn´t matter much, if anything at all. The 1066/1333FSB cant carry say DDR3-1333 dualchannel anyway. In theory DDR2-533 and DDR2-667 would be enough.
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    WoW. Lets hope that 2GB DDR3-2000 won't cost more than a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gOJDO View Post
    WoW. Lets hope that 2GB DDR3-2000 won't cost more than a car.
    Yea, hopefully. What about DDR2 prices? Lowering down a little bit more?

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    Awesome !! When's DDR3-9000 coming out There are SO many mobos out there for DDR3 today, I'm so excited



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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Awesome !! When's DDR3-9000 coming out There are SO many mobos out there for DDR3 today, I'm so excited



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    Is waiting till Monday for DDR3 mobos to come out too long for you? You've shown more patience waiting for at least one other product launch I could name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Periander6 View Post
    Is waiting till Monday for DDR3 mobos to come out too long for you? You've shown more patience waiting for at least one other product launch I could name.
    lol true enough...

    Frankly I just don't seem to be seeing a lot of momentum across the board for DDR3 in terms of acceptance, availability or advertising for that matter.

    Hence my comment...the point being: it's way too early for DDR3...though I stand corrected...don't want to derail the thread :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    It wouldn´t matter much, if anything at all. The 1066/1333FSB cant carry say DDR3-1333 dualchannel anyway. In theory DDR2-533 and DDR2-667 would be enough.
    Who here runs on at 1333FSB or even below 1600MHz? None of my Intel machines asides from my Macbook operate under a 1800MHz FSB. Bring on the insane bandwidth

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    Corsair announces world's fastest DDR3 memory
    COMPUTEX – Taipei, Taiwan (June 4, 2007) – Corsair® http://www.corsair.com, the worldwide leader in high performance computer and flash memory products, today unveiled the world’s fastest production DDR3 memory rated at a blazing-fast 1,600MHz (PC3-12,800) and the world preview of the Corsair DOMINATORTM memory running at 2,000MHz (PC3-16,000). Live demonstration of the new DOMINATOR memory will be on display in the Corsair VIP suite (#1334) at the Grand Hyatt Hotel. The TWIN3X2048-1600C10D DOMINATOR is the latest addition to the Corsair line of high-performance memory modules. Also on display is the upcoming generation of DDR3 DOMINATORs, ranging from 1GB modules running at over 2,000MHz and 2GB modules showing performance promise for 64-bit based applications. All DDR3 products have been developed to support the new Intel® P35 and X38 Express platforms, ensuring customers of an extreme user experience whether for gaming or applications with high computing needs.
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    here is the rest of info...
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    FAMILY	             PART NUMBER	        SPEED	LATENCIES
    DOMINATOR	TWIN3X2048-1600C10D	1600MHz	10-8-8-24
    XMS3 DHX	TWIN3X2048-1333C9DHX	1333MHz	9-9-9-24
    XMS3 CLASSIC	TWIN3X2048-1333C9	1333MHz	9-9-9-24
    	                TWIN3X2048-1066C7	1066MHz	7-7-7-21
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    Yupp, Team has unveiled its modules as well, not sure if we're going to see anymore during Computex, but there are more companies working on DDR3-2000 modules.
    They wil be expensive as helll, but they will almost be a commodity ( for a high-end product)

    //Andreas

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    Corsair breaks 2GHz barrier with DDR3
    Earlier today, Corsair showed us how how it had broken through the 2GHz memory bus speed barrier with a pair of 1GB Dominator DDR3 modules in an Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard.

    Just yesterday, the company announced that it would be shipping the world's first DDR3-1600 memory within a week. The new modules run at timings of 10-8-8-24 at their rated speed and they're the modules that Corsair used to break this speed record.
    http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06...er_with_ddr3/1

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    very nice DDR3.. mm.. I wonder how will it affects AMD.. I think AMD's quad core will use DDR2
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    Quote Originally Posted by NH|Delph1 View Post
    I've had it confirmed (more or less) that we can look to some real high-end modules in just a few months.

    The only one I'm perfectly certain of is Corsair, but there "might" be some sticks coming from OCZ, A-DATA, SuperTalent, Micron, and Samsung.

    We're talking DDR3-1866 to DDR3-2000 in Q3. No info on the latencies, but I'm not sure i even want to know that. Mainly 1GB modules though.

    I'll get back when I know more

    Source, kind of

    EDIT:
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    micron doesnt sell memory sticks, you mean crucial i guess
    and i doubt they will sell 2ghz sticks, especially samsung, lol

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