VR-ZONE review of X1950XTX

[Cooper]

The 7950 numbers are way off the mark. The review is .

Got other more constructive comment upon this ?

[Chojun]

A really don't see the sense of this card

the purpose, the goal..
i really don't!

X1900XTX and crosfire is good,they were pretty much able to hold out untill r600 in december...

money making perhaps?

[rpg711]

every company has its chance with a flagship card and adding a "50" to it
7950gx2 for example
so now its 1950xtx
see the resemblence?

[Revv23]

yup just a way to bump sales in between design cycles.

[Budwise]

im happy. My X1900XTX outperforms their test even when overclocked. Watercooling is my best friend No need to upgrade until DX10, that is for sure.

[SnipingWaste]

A really don't see the sense of this card

the purpose, the goal..
i really don't!

X1900XTX and crosfire is good,they were pretty much able to hold out untill r600 in december...

money making perhaps?

May be they wanted to try out GDDR4 on a GPU that they already have first and not try somthing new for R600.

[Ubermann]

Or make ppl buy this before G80 so they dont want to upgrade again.

[perkam]

Not $399...gouging -> $449 to $499..

Pls don't get your hopes up. This 512MB GDDR4.

Perkam

[CBONE]

Too bad it won't come in at $399. That price is pleasing to the wallet. Much more so than $449 - $499.

I could rationalize that purchase if the Crossfire performance were kicked up as well.

[cantankerous]

Not $399...gouging -> $449 to $499..

Pls don't get your hopes up. This 512MB GDDR4.

Perkam

QFT my fellow ontario friend.

[Hicks]

Got other more constructive comment upon this ?

Not really. I think the lameless of the review, and the numbers they throw around speak for themselves.

Just go and look at benchies of the 7950 and the X1900 compared to Vr-Zone. You will see a huge difference.

[generics_user]

what i thought, R580 core without a plus

looks very promising, wanna have one and have 300€ lying around, maybe i´ll ditch my WC-Upgrade and take this one instead

[rpg711]

QFT my fellow ontario friend.

what does QFT mean?
*tries it*
QFT

[kempez815]

Quoted for truth

[nn_step]

what does QFT mean?
*tries it*
QFT

Quoted For Truth

[Miwo]

I still laugh when I see that acronym because for the longest time (not till 2-3 years ago), I thought that was Quit ing Trolling

Anyways back to the topic......maybe Shamino can shed some light to why the 7950GX2 benchies are so far off other sites? Does High Quality AF mode really kill Nvidia that poorly? I am presuming other websites use the default NV Quality mode, which causes noticable shimmering?

[turtle]

for the longest time (not till 2-3 years ago), I thought that was Quit ing Trolling

It also means quit ing talking, but most of the time it is quoted for truth.

Anyways back to the topic......maybe Shamino can shed some light to why the 7950GX2 benchies are so far off other sites? I am presuming other websites use the default NV Quality mode, which causes noticable shimmering?

I think you answered your own question.

As for noone thinking this will weigh in at $399...R580 yields are incredibley high afaik, and while this is the first GDDR4 product, it's not like it's rated at freakishly high speeds. GDDR4 like this has been in production for quite some time (a year?), and samsung/hynix are already producing 3.2ghz+ stuff. Surely mass availability shouldn't be a problem for 2400mhz stuff.

Plus, x1900's are being phased out and will probably drop in price significantly in the next month, not just because of x1950, but because of G80, just like the x1800's did with the release of x1900/g71. I don't think it's crazy that this will replace the x1900xtx at a similar price point, and the 256mb x1950xt will replace the x1900xt spot, making a more easily comparible line to the 7900gtx/7900gt. Just think of the 1950's as the x1900's were to the x1800's. Noone thought the x1900 would be available, at or below MSRP at launch either (Even though it was reported, as this is, that it will be), but it was. What's the differance this time, other than we have a card using a core that has been in production for a year and slow-speed (comparitively speaking to what can be done) next-gen memory that has also been in production for a year?

Sorry to rant, but ya'll are such pessimists.

This doesn't change the fact G80 is coming unbearabley soon, will have DX10 and prolly stomp it...but surely that's not the point as this is in a different market, as G80 will be more than $100 more expensive (and the GT will prolly not be out right away). This is competing against the 7900gtx/7900gt, and will depreciate as they do. If you knock this on the merrit of being dx9, you have to do the same for the beloved cheap x1950pro everyone is waiting for to exceed the value of the 7900gt (which may have similar price/performance value come October). Everything will drop one notch upon G80's release, surely this is no exception.

[LardArse]

I still laugh when I see that acronym because for the longest time (not till 2-3 years ago), I thought that was Quit ing Trolling

Anyways back to the topic......maybe Shamino can shed some light to why the 7950GX2 benchies are so far off other sites? Does High Quality AF mode really kill Nvidia that poorly? I am presuming other websites use the default NV Quality mode, which causes noticable shimmering?

I knew I'll be putting my credibility on the line if I published the review with the figures I got, and I went on to rerun some of the tests 3 times. Settings were checked, multi-gpu on, image best quality, 4xaa 16xaf, no aa 16xaf, rest I left at stock settings.

I will rerun the GX2 now, in particular FEAR again. And if I still get the same numbers I'll reformat it.

For the X1950XTX I can only rerun it again when I get the card since I've had to return it to my contact for the time being.

[rpg711]

I knew I'll be putting my credibility on the line if I published the review with the figures I got, and I went on to rerun some of the tests 3 times. Settings were checked, multi-gpu on, image best quality, 4xaa 16xaf, no aa 16xaf, rest I left at stock settings.

I will rerun the GX2 now, in particular FEAR again. And if I still get the same numbers I'll reformat it.

For the X1950XTX I can only rerun it again when I get the card since I've had to return it to my contact for the time being.

who is your "contact"?
it seems like the x1950xtx is better than the HIS x1900xtx by alittle
does any1 have a actual msrp price of the x1950xtx

[LardArse]

Somebody cache this article quick
I have to take it down now
already reran FEAR with GX2, post up screenshots, settings in while

[rpg711]

yay

[LardArse]

Settings:




Changed to 16xAF




Changed to Best Quality





FEAR, 16xAF, 1600x1200 no AA max qual, gets 34 to 33fps





Then tried:



Same results


Driver:

[OnLine]

Try 4AA 16AF HQ 1600x1200 - with soft shadows off - let's see if You can get ~73fps average:



* wasn't soft shadows in FEAR somewhat bugged?!

[CedricFP]

I never doubted your credibility when reading the review. Kudos on re-running though.

[b0bd0le]

where's the article? did some one cache it?