Dual Core Opteron Thread #2

**blazin-asian** · 07-11-2006, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by The Nemesis

Blazin-asian, I don't think you'll hit 3 ghz on air. It only took 1.4vcore for me to hit 2907mhz on water, But I had to jump up to 1.47v for a mere 63 mhz more. Prime temp almost reached 50'c too. I haven't tried for 3 ghz on mine because someone is interested in buying it so I don't wanna run 1.5v or so throught it & pass it on. You really ought to consider some form of water cooling. Mine was only $149 & it's doing a fair job

i actually saw the Corsair Nautilis at Frys in houston and was thinkin about. i think the sweet spot for my chip is 2.9 @ 1.475v with mem @ 210 MHz. i can get 2.95 @ 1.55v but its too much. im sure after a month of usage i will probably be able to get there eventually.

**TooFast4Radar** · 07-11-2006, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by The Nemesis

Thanks for making a sig. Is that a 350w psu your running? If so it must be a darn good one to power a dual core & a 7900GT. But it may also hold you back in overclocking. I'm not very familar with the that motherboard's overclocking potential. If it wont post after 270HTT make sure your HT multi. is on 4 or 3 to be sure. You can also try to add a little more voltage to the chipset maybe 1.6v-1.7v.My guess would be that your board or psu are not gonna let you see 2.7ghz -2.8ghz. But I agree that you should lower you multiplier and raise the HTT and see where it quits.

I thought of the PS being a problem as well. It's a pretty good PS. That's one thing I never like to cheap out on - it'll make or break a system. It ran just fine with my old 3000+ and 6600 and thought I'd see if it still worked. Seems to be running fine, but I've been thinking of going up to an Antec SmartPower 500W. The HTT was at 4X, but I dropped it down to 3 when I jumped up to 2400mhz. Right now I have the chipset at 1.6v. The crappy stock cooler went out so I replaced it with a giant HS from an Intel P4 board that was bad with artic silver compound.

Also I was reading about the processor being an energy efficient 35W CPU. Does this affect OCing it? Does it need that much voltage?

Thanks much for the help!

**alfaunits** · 07-11-2006, 11:39 AM

35W processor on load? I think not, Opty had 80W efficient versions. 35W is too much.

**TooFast4Radar** · 07-11-2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by alfaunits

35W processor on load? I think not, Opty had 80W efficient versions. 35W is too much.

On TCaseMax (previos page) I posted the results as follows...

TDP: 35.0 Watts

If this is under load or not, I'm not sure.

**The Nemesis** · 07-11-2006, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by TooFast4Radar

I've been thinking of going up to an Antec SmartPower 500W.

If I were to go with an antec psu I would go with their Neo HE Series but they start around $30 more than the one your looking at. But you definitely want one with multiple or dual 12+v rails. Personally if your about to dive into overclocking you may want to replace that motherboard with a DFI nforce 4 ultra-D. You can find 'em pretty cheap on ebay & in various forums & its one the best overclocking boards out there.

**niexa77** · 07-11-2006, 02:17 PM

2.8@1.4x1.033 8hrs,(41deg)
2.9@1.425x1.05(45deg) seems to be running ok...

only prob im having is my CPUv jumps (in cpuZ) from 1.440-1.452-1.470 (was going between 1.392-1.408@2.8)

think it's my msi neo4 plat; all rails are solid (.03v movement on the 5)...
might get a cheap oem rdx200...

you said DFI nforce 4 ultra-D's are going cheap nemesis?

does anyone know if collabatory liquid has a wear-in period?

**billdavis** · 07-11-2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by blazin-asian

i actually saw the Corsair Nautilis at Frys in houston and was thinkin about. i think the sweet spot for my chip is 2.9 @ 1.475v with mem @ 210 MHz. i can get 2.95 @ 1.55v but its too much. im sure after a month of usage i will probably be able to get there eventually.

i cant even post with the divider lower than 150

whatsup
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**The Nemesis** · 07-11-2006, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by billdavis

i cant even post with the divider lower than 150

whatsup

Your using the Expert board. Ya kinda have to ignore everyone else's results because the board is way different. Keep playing around with the data strength and driving. I had to set to 9 /1 to get my board to post unless I went 2T. I think your Ram is infineon based so I'll have to look up how to set it. I think Rgone & Angry/Happy games have a post in the overclock database over at dfi-streets. I'll link when their site is back up.
****Edit****
There are two entries by EdLSmith@ DFI-Streets OC database.

niexa77
I saw two ultra-d's go for under $75 shipped on ebay. There's someone in the for sale thread selling one too. says he wants to make $80-90 off it. I think its a RMA replacement. I just sold a SLI-DR for $100 myself(bareboard)

**niexa77** · 07-11-2006, 03:44 PM

niexa77
I saw two ultra-d's go for under $75 shipped on ebay. There's someone in the for sale thread selling one too. says he wants to make $80-90 off it. I think its a RMA replacement. I just sold a SLI-DR for $100 myself(bareboard)

hmmm, not sure i could use the ultra-d with my setup... would make swaping out dimm's very painfull (xp-90c)

EDIT
2906 ran for 2 hours dual prime, temp went down to 44(maybe ambient related)

2952 1.375x109.9% (1.563-1.472 in cpuz, 1.47-1.49 in CoreCentre) heres hoping i can hit 3g after burn-in under 1.5v

**billdavis** · 07-11-2006, 05:26 PM

EDIT
2906 ran for 2 hours dual prime, temp went down to 44(maybe ambient related)

2952 1.375x109.9% (1.563-1.472 in cpuz, 1.47-1.49 in CoreCentre) heres hoping i can hit 3g after burn-in under 1.5v[/QUOTE]

what are you monitoring temps with
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**niexa77** · 07-11-2006, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by billdavis

what are you monitoring temps with

corecentre and i have a hardware probe that i thermal tape to the underside on the xp-90c, jammed into the crack between the overlap on the xp-90 base and the IHS... its about 6-8 deg out, but it reflected the drop...

**blazin-asian** · 07-11-2006, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by billdavis

i cant even post with the divider lower than 150

whatsup

thats strange because i am using a similar mb and same bios. are your OCZ's UCCC? if they are, what are your settings? 3-4-4-8 works best for me. ive managed to tighten then to 3-3-3-8 and had 2.5-3-3-0 stable, but with a lower OC.

**TooFast4Radar** · 07-12-2006, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by The Nemesis

If I were to go with an antec psu I would go with their Neo HE Series but they start around $30 more than the one your looking at. But you definitely want one with multiple or dual 12+v rails. Personally if your about to dive into overclocking you may want to replace that motherboard with a DFI nforce 4 ultra-D. You can find 'em pretty cheap on ebay & in various forums & its one the best overclocking boards out there.

Well I got it up to 2640 now. I set the clock multiplier to 8X and moved the HTT multiplier up to 330. I forgot what setting I had it at, but it did post at 2790 at 1.45v, but wouldn't go into Windows. At 2700mhz I got a quick bluescreen and the computer restarted while loading Windows. I backed off from there to where I am now. I don't know if it's memory, the power supply, or limitations of the processor itself.

My voltage is set to 1.42v and was running stable in BF2. I think I need to upgrade the PS still though. I had to drop my memory down and after that I got no errors. In CPU-Z it shows the voltage fluctuating between 1.344 and 1.409 (not sure if this is accurate or not). I've been happy with my AO350 power supply and noticed that they made a new SLI-ready AO700 (700w). It's expensive, to the tune of $150, but I've been impressed that this 350W has done this well.

Temeratures on the CPU reached 47*C under load. A friend of mine has the CoolIt Freezone and seems to like it, although said it could use a larger resovior, but overall works pretty well. I'd like to get my temps down and might either get that or a Thermaltake Silentwater (I don't want anything overly loud or obtrusive).

**djustice** · 07-12-2006, 05:43 PM

CCBBE 0617 is awsome!

my results as posted on dfi-street in overclocking database:

DFI LANPARTY nF4 Ultra-D (1.0 rev.A3) (704-22v6)bigetoe tweaked 704-2a

AMD operton 165 Toledo CCBBE 0617

2x1024MB OZC PC-4000 Gold GX XTC (OCZ5002048ELGEGXT-K)

EVGA 7800GT 256MB w/ZALMAN VF900, 473/1200 84.43 Tweaks R'us driver

2xWestern digital raptor 74gb Raid0 (8MB cache)

samsung spinpoint sp1614c 160gb(8MB cache)

Hiper type-r 580w modular sli ready psu

asus crw-4816a

benq dual dw1610 16x

thermaltake bigwater cl-w0005

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Genie BIOS Settings:

FSB Bus Frequency - 334
LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio - x3.0
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - x9.0
PCI eXpress Frequency - 101Mhz

CPU VID StartUp Value - 1.350v

CPU VID Control - 1.400v
CPU VID Special Control - Above VID * 110%
LDT Voltage Control - 1.30v
Chip Set Voltage Control - 1.60v
DRAM Voltage Control - 2.60v
DRAM +.03 - ENABLE
DRAM Configuration Settings:

DRAM Frequency Set - 150=RAM/FSB:03/04
Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable
CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 04 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 08 Bus Clocks
Row precharge time (Trp) - 03 Bus Clocks
Row Cycle time (Trc) - 11 Bus Clocks
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 16 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 03 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 03 Bus Clocks
Refresh Period (Tref) - 3120 Cycles
DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled

DQS Skew Control - Auto
DQS Skew Value - 0
DRAM Drive Strength - NORMAL 3
DRAM Data Drive Strength - Level 2
Max Async Latency - 8.0 Nano Seconds
DRAM Response Time - Normal
Read Preamble Time - 6.0 Nano Seconds
IdleCycle Limit - 256 Cycles
Dynamic Counter - Disable
R/W Queue Bypass - 16 x
Bypass Max - 07 x
32 Byte Granularity - Disable(4 Bursts)

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Prime95 + 3dMark2001SE + CPU-Z 1.35:

http://home.broadpark.no/~stiadahl/OCDB1.jpg

3dMark2003:

http://home.broadpark.no/~stiadahl/OCDB2.JPG

3dMark2005:

http://home.broadpark.no/~stiadahl/OCDB3.jpg

3dMark2006:

http://home.broadpark.no/~stiadahl/OCDB4.JPG

everest home v2.20:

http://home.broadpark.no/~stiadahl/OCDB5-1.JPG

http://home.broadpark.no/~stiadahl/OCDB5-2.JPG

http://home.broadpark.no/~stiadahl/OCDB5-3.jpg

==========

short description:
334x9 @ 3006Mhz, 1.400v + 110%
3.0-4-8-3 @ 2.66v vdimm

**billdavis** · 07-12-2006, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by blazin-asian

thats strange because i am using a similar mb and same bios. are your OCZ's UCCC? if they are, what are your settings? 3-4-4-8 works best for me. ive managed to tighten then to 3-3-3-8 and had 2.5-3-3-0 stable, but with a lower OC.

ocz plat EB 4000 there suposed to be 3-3-2-8 but i can only get 260@3-3-3-8
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**niexa77** · 07-12-2006, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by billdavis

ocz plat EB 4000 there suposed to be 3-3-2-8 but i can only get 260@3-3-3-8

I could only get my EB's to do 260 at stock... i think it has to do with drive strength and data drive strength(which i know almost nothing about either)
I certainly know of other people(from reviews and forums) with exact same setup as mine to have gotten 275mhz with stock timings...

with some tinkering i've gotten mine to a few mb/s under 3gb/s in memtest... (they are 2300mb/s stock i think?)

**itznfb** · 07-13-2006, 06:14 AM

here's a screen shot of the DB sorted by frequency only.

<a href="http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=db26fp.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3759/db26fp.th.jpg" border="0" /></a>

**The Nemesis** · 07-13-2006, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by itznfb

here's a screen shot of the DB sorted by frequency only.

<a href="http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=db26fp.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3759/db26fp.th.jpg" border="0" /></a>

Nice Work I like it

**pH(x)** · 07-13-2006, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by TooFast4Radar

Well I got it up to 2640 now. I set the clock multiplier to 8X and moved the HTT multiplier up to 330. I forgot what setting I had it at, but it did post at 2790 at 1.45v, but wouldn't go into Windows. At 2700mhz I got a quick bluescreen and the computer restarted while loading Windows. I backed off from there to where I am now. I don't know if it's memory, the power supply, or limitations of the processor itself.

My voltage is set to 1.42v and was running stable in BF2. I think I need to upgrade the PS still though. I had to drop my memory down and after that I got no errors. In CPU-Z it shows the voltage fluctuating between 1.344 and 1.409 (not sure if this is accurate or not). I've been happy with my AO350 power supply and noticed that they made a new SLI-ready AO700 (700w). It's expensive, to the tune of $150, but I've been impressed that this 350W has done this well.

Three-hundred-fifty watts is simply does not afford the fluctuation-dampening and stability situations presented with overclocking certain components. Upgrade the PSU to something -- with more power in mind.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103932

**niexa77** · 07-13-2006, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by pH(x)

Three-hundred-fifty watts is simply does not afford the fluctuation-dampening and stability situations presented with overclocking certain components. Upgrade the PSU to something -- with more power in mind.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103932

Why not an ocz gamextream 600w for 105 at monarch?... i have a true power and wasnt particularly happy with it(rail fluctuation)

**blazin-asian** · 07-13-2006, 05:53 PM

heres another result for the db:

name: blazin-asian
stepping: ccbbe
date: 0617
package code: fpmw
frequency: 2925
vcore: 1.5v
cooling: lapped BT + ramsink mod
load temp: 42c
prime: 8+ hours

this is the best cpu ive owned. im burning in for 2950 now

**niexa77** · 07-13-2006, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by blazin-asian

heres another result for the db:

name: blazin-asian
stepping: ccbbe
date: 0617
package code: fpmw
frequency: 2925
vcore: 1.5v
cooling: lapped BT + ramsink mod
load temp: 42c
prime: 8+ hours

this is the best cpu ive owned. im burning in for 2950 now

can we get a pic of the ramsink mod? :P (i had a similar idea (use for all the real estate on the base of the BT, but i was going to drill-out grooves for the heatpipes on a zalman NB)

also itznfb:
what cpuV do we quote when listing? cpuz? bios?

**blazin-asian** · 07-13-2006, 08:14 PM

my pics can be found here. go to the first post to get the idea, but the pics were very blurry so i posted mine which are a lot clearer.

**HHawk** · 07-14-2006, 12:01 AM

Anybody can supply me with the link to the site of Godar, or what's his name?

The one which has a detailed overview CPU / Multiplier / Memory vs. CPU ratio.

Sorry if I got his name wrong.

Thnx.

**niexa77** · 07-14-2006, 12:36 AM

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20823

might not be the oine you're after, but could possibly have a link to the one you mean...

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