4 Ghz!!!..........

[PoL]

Liquid tape is good - grease is fine too.

Tried it yesterday, and the best side of it is that after benching you can just peel it off easily.

[s7e9h3n]

Well, I booted up with the naked cpu last night and there seems to be a few issues....First, my Win2k3 install refuses to work properly with this Opty. I've tried everything - including re-installing 4 times the last 2 days - and nothing seems to let the cpu run stable. I barely can complete any benches @ high speeds, however, I ran an 8m @ 13x270 and the result was 27+minutes I'll get the screenie posted later.
The other issue has to do with temps. It seems as if removing the spreader did next to nothing in terms of improving temps on the cpu. In fact, the temps seem to be a little worse now that the spreader is off. I checked the mount after the bench session and it was absolutely perfect. What makes this even more odd is that my evap temps continued to remain below -70C loaded while the core temps reached as high as -18. I'm hoping there's not some sort of "clog" in my evap head. I'll talk to Chilly1 later and see if he may know what is wrong here.....

[Fhqwhgads6680]

Man steve that really sucks... Have you tested the cpu with a reg. heatsink to make sure it didn't get hurt when poping the hood (doubtful but maybe..) I really wanna see this baby break some records!!!!!

Oh and for insulating the resistors under the IHS I use nail polish...works really well, and can take it of with remover and looks like new!

Good luck man lets us know!

[PoL]

Happened to me once, with a container and a venice 3200+. After removing the IHS temps went up from -35º to -26º... Mounted it again like three times, but always the same... Odd, really odd...

[Lord_RTKK]

I havent tried my 154 in subzero cooling yet, but with my watercooling system (which holds my Venice 3000 @ 3Ghz 1.7v @ 38ºC full) the 154 gets pretty hot (around 51ºC full @ 1.55v).
If you are saying that removing the IHS doesnt help at all, then I will rethink if I want to remove mine...

[PoL]

I havent tried my 154 in subzero cooling yet, but with my watercooling system (which holds my Venice 3000 @ 3Ghz 1.7v @ 38ºC full) the 154 gets pretty hot (around 51ºC full @ 1.55v).
If you are saying that removing the IHS doesnt help at all, then I will rethink if I want to remove mine...

Hey Lord!
Did you check the mounting? That's damn hot for water...

[Lord_RTKK]

Yeah man, the mounting was perfect, I checked it twice or three times... but those 154 get pretty hot...
My WCing setup is well designed and equilibrated (see my last post to see my vennie temps ) but this 154 gets hot like a demon...
I thought that it could be because of a bad contact between IHS and core, but now I am reading stephen´s experience with his 154, I am doubting about removing IHS or not...
Next week we will get the 154 under DICE, so we will se if this heat helps to avoid cold bug out...

[freecableguy]

Well, I booted up with the naked cpu last night and there seems to be a few issues....First, my Win2k3 install refuses to work properly with this Opty. I've tried everything - including re-installing 4 times the last 2 days - and nothing seems to let the cpu run stable. I barely can complete any benches @ high speeds, however, I ran an 8m @ 13x270 and the result was 27+minutes I'll get the screenie posted later.
The other issue has to do with temps. It seems as if removing the spreader did next to nothing in terms of improving temps on the cpu. In fact, the temps seem to be a little worse now that the spreader is off. I checked the mount after the bench session and it was absolutely perfect. What makes this even more odd is that my evap temps continued to remain below -70C loaded while the core temps reached as high as -18. I'm hoping there's not some sort of "clog" in my evap head. I'll talk to Chilly1 later and see if he may know what is wrong here.....

Large System Cache on?

[s7e9h3n]

Large System Cache on?

It was, but for some reason Disable Executive Paging was off and Second Level Data Cache was set to 0. Looks as if the registry on my 2003 install is totally borked. Send me a copy of yours

[s7e9h3n]

UPDATE: I've got the cpu finally figured out!!! ATM, it's running 32m @ 3700, 1.61V.....idle @ -47, load @ -34........Stay tuned as I'll have some benches finished by tonight

[bachus_anonym]

ATM, it's running 32m @ 3700, 1.61V.....idle @ -47, load @ -34........

At last Don't even show up without 19:xx Good Luck, Steven

[DaWaN]

UPDATE: I've got the cpu finally figured out!!! ATM, it's running 32m @ 3700, 1.61V.....idle @ -47, load @ -34........Stay tuned as I'll have some benches finished by tonight

Nice to hear, but what was the problem then, always handy to know if someone encounters same problem in the future

[s7e9h3n]

Nice to hear, but what was the problem then, always handy to know if someone encounters same problem in the future

I think it may have to do with the tremendous heatload the 154 creates. For one reason or another, the evap on my autocascade wasn't able to handle such a concentrated heatload from the core and as a result, it basically became "overloaded". The solution? I installed my trusty little cold-plate I normally use to RAISE temps on cold-bugged cpus:



Here's what was happening before installing the cold-plate (this must be some kinda record):





And this is what happend afterwards (No tweaks at all, just a couple of RAM timing changes):

Sorry Michal - I'm workin on the 19:xx as we speak

Spi32m, 14x264, 1.61Vcore


Spi8m, 14x268, 1.61Vcore


Spi1m, 14x270, 1.61Vcore


MUCH, MUCH MORE TO COME ......

[njkid32]

Finally! Very nice runs...

[[XC] moddolicous]

Very Nice results s7e9h3n. I guess this is with your team group PC 4000?? Does the 154 has stock unlocked multipliers? Was that 32mb ran 1:1?

[thunderstruck!]

No unlocked multiplier on the 154- It's not an FX after all. Hope to see more spi

[halo112358]

Happened to me once, with a container and a venice 3200+. After removing the IHS temps went up from -35º to -26º... Mounted it again like three times, but always the same... Odd, really odd...

Under the plating the IHS is a solid copper slug. I'm guessing, but what I think would happen in a sub-zero situation with the IHS on is that you'd have a cold-sink sitting next to the core, so when the core heats up you're able to transfer the heat into the IHS and warm it - this would draw heat out of the core very quickly, I think. Once the IHS is off you no longer are drawing heat into the copper slug but rather into the evap head. Now, I'm not a phase guy but I'm going to guess that the phase head might not be able to sink heat as quickly as the copper IHS.

I used to run a tec to cool my celeron 333a (550mhz for the win) and I had much better luck (and core temps) using a block of aluminum between the core and the TEC than I did just using the TEC directly on the core.

edit: are people seeing better temps on phase with the IHS on, or off? or is it a mixed result?

[T_M]

I had the same thing happen to my 146 steve, IHS off and temps are same if not slightly worse on water.
Cant compare with DICE though as i dont use it as cold as possible due to bug at -25C.
I havent attempted to solve this issue, but a thin copper plate might be the answer.

[s7e9h3n]

I had the same thing happen to my 146 steve, IHS off and temps are same if not slightly worse on water.
Cant compare with DICE though as i dont use it as cold as possible due to bug at -25C.
I havent attempted to solve this issue, but a thin copper plate might be the answer.

A thin copper plate may help in the sense that it will help keep load temps down, but the flipside to this is that it also takes much more capacity from the cooler in order to displace the amount of heat generated from the cpu and the copper itself.....

[Dumo]

Nice one you got there Steve ..Its a gem

154 is a hot chip...Heres with single stage load @.......



My ss cried....evap went positive

[s7e9h3n]

Nice one you got there Steve ..Its a gem

154 is a hot chip...Heres with single stage load @.......



My ss cried....evap went positive

Positive Evap???? Holy $hit How's this for -65C Evap LOADED ?:

[hipro5]

Those Opties are geting better and better when time passes......

Good job s7e9h3n.....

[njkid32]

Those Opties are geting better and better when time passes......

Good job s7e9h3n.....

I know everytime I see a new Opty they are getting better but this one is waaaaay better. They are also getting hotter and hotter...

[s7e9h3n]

Those Opties are geting better and better when time passes......

Good job s7e9h3n.....

Thanks....but this cpu can only dream of the spi times your 4Ghz Dothan can do Now please show me a mod to give me the x15 multi since I'm hitting a brick wall @ 14x270

BTW, this cpu is FAR from a new stepping. In fact, it's a sample from an earlier stepping which it shared with the CABCE FX57's. Sadly, the newer steppings can't touch these results due to the cold-bug.....

[mongoled]

Im convinced, the hotter the chip the less chance of it having cold bug. As long as you have the cooling in place to handle the heat load (which you have) these chips can keep going and going, well ofcourse not to affinity, hehehee

Thanks for sharing the information on how you solved this, UTKightmare has been having similar issues with the 0530APMW i sold him, it gets alot better temps with the IHS on then with off and it is also a hot chip. Im hoping he can get some ncie cooling sorted soon and with the info u shared hopefully there will be some more competition.