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    Please elaborate then. Now youre pulling stuff...

    Please elaborate then.

    Now youre pulling stuff out of thin air, ive never stated them as facts, ive clearly said that IVE READ IT ON THE INTERWEBZ,and that its a LIKELY reason for a delay.

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    There is no need to be rude.As everyone here im...

    There is no need to be rude.As everyone here im guessing based on facts and previous situations.And AMD had bad yields with first hammers for example too, and guess what, it was delayed too.
    If...
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    Even if you totally disregard any core...

    Even if you totally disregard any core enhacements alone.
    BD has more L3, it has more L2 per core (4xtimes as much) ,it has bootload of new instructions, it runs faster HT/NB with added faster...
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    They delayed it once.While not admitting that...

    They delayed it once.While not admitting that they REALLY did ;-).And that one delay had september as a release date.So thats a month more.However,they suck.
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    The most sensible piece of information i read on...

    The most sensible piece of information i read on the interwebz is pretty simple .Yields suck, and they need to stockpile for launch and be able to adress all they clients (desktop/server/oem).
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    8130P is not made up.Just because it may not...

    8130P is not made up.Just because it may not reach retail doesnt mean its made up.
    Also.
    Donanimhaber reports that BD got pushed to october ,like OBR said some time ago.

    4.4ghz on default...
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    @JF , care to comment ?Is server pushed back ? ...

    @JF , care to comment ?Is server pushed back ?

    OBR said some time ago that its REALLY delayed and up to october.
  8. Does the second nvidia card still is able to do...

    Does the second nvidia card still is able to do physx ?
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    He implies that that they MAY be fake.In another...

    He implies that that they MAY be fake.In another words he said nothing.Again.When he announced before some "scores" he put out a meaningless article about SLI on amd fx, plus some blackened...
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    Thanks, just like i thought.When CPU+Gpu i OC`d...

    Thanks, just like i thought.When CPU+Gpu i OC`d ,ram makes a big difference even beyond 1866 (which is not always the case with stock).
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    I was thinking about unlocking cores/modules ;-)

    I was thinking about unlocking cores/modules ;-)
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    Anybody know if there are other than 8130P...

    Anybody know if there are other than 8130P samples out there ?
    I was thinking recently about it, and it may be not the smartest thing for me to buy highest 8C model at start cause two things:
    1.In...
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    Well i could take a pre order too.Does he state...

    Well i could take a pre order too.Does he state shipping date ?
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    it was clocked 3.2ghz, i dont know if thats "that...

    it was clocked 3.2ghz, i dont know if thats "that high".
    Overclockability is good on this ES, 4.8ghz stable and above 5ghz for some benches.Thats ES.retail is prolly going to be better.Amds process...
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    Intel is pretty straightforward with its pricing....

    Intel is pretty straightforward with its pricing.
    There are slides out there that clearly state cheapest 6 core SBE aint gonna be cheaper than 500$, and full fledged fully unlocked product is going...
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    It doesnt to be out in the market at same exact...

    It doesnt to be out in the market at same exact time as something its going to be fighting with.Amd just doesnt have resources to do that.BD is going out in a month or so, and it competes with 2600k....
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    What ? Well why dont you put llano in there, to...

    What ?
    Well why dont you put llano in there, to compete with SBE, its cpu as well :).
    You cant ignore the fact that platform as well as CPU`s are going to be priced in different leagues.I mean yes,...
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    SBE is a niche market, yes, high margin one, but...

    SBE is a niche market, yes, high margin one, but niche.JF stated again and again they are not interested in it.
    BD is priced against 2600K, platform is targeted at 1155.Cheapest 6 core SBE is going...
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    Clock for 8 threaded work should be mostly 3.2ghz...

    Clock for 8 threaded work should be mostly 3.2ghz ,as stated in donanhimber article.Its better than 2600K, and pretty much ties with 980x clock for clock in this benchmark (x264)
    As for CB10, its...
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    Thanks guys for input, fixed.Still ,x264 score is...

    Thanks guys for input, fixed.Still ,x264 score is comparable to 980x, that aint bad.
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    (EDIT, i was wrong, apparently benchmark versions...

    (EDIT, i was wrong, apparently benchmark versions differ GREATLY in performance, didnt know that)




    Its not the same chip ,its new chip, leaks before were done on B0, thats a B1.Yes OBR had...
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    That depends on his budget, BD aint gonna cost...

    That depends on his budget, BD aint gonna cost 105 euros.
    IOf youre willing to spend 250-300E ,than wait, if not, its good cpu.
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    Well taking this into account: It would make...

    Well taking this into account:


    It would make much sense that AIDA write scores are lower.Thats a B1, B2 is going to be retail (if not even B1) if they want to keep schedule.
    I mean, AMD ITSELF...
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    I made a quick search for results to compare: BD...

    I made a quick search for results to compare:
    BD ; 2600K ; 980x
    3dmark 2011 P6265 ; sorry, couldnt find score of a stock 2600k with a stock 580 :/ ; P6383 (990x)...
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    Article at donanhimber states that CPU they used...

    Article at donanhimber states that CPU they used is 3.2ghz, but it has 3.6ghz turbo ON ALL 8 cores :) ,and 4.2Ghz at 4 cores.
    So in reality cpu ran 3.2->4.2ghz in those tests, depending on the...
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