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Well the difference between llano and HD4000 on desktop is night and day. So adding additional performance on that will make it bigger i assume. You can get an id with anandtech HD2500-4000...

FX4100 : 3.6GHz ->TB 3.8GHz >> 95W TDP

A10-5700: 3.4GHZ -> TB 4GHz + 384Gpu @ 760MHz >> 65W TDP

Batterly life isn't suprising since the ivB is a 45W model i thought..

Would be interesting if anand would have done batterly life under load tests. since now we are comparing cpus where one has...

IPC is irrelevant without clock and clock is irrelevant without ipc.
llano is hardly reaching 3GHz from a product point of view. 3.5GHz is waay out of its reach... That can only be obtained by a...

So same process
same TDP

resulted in:

better cpu performance
better idle power consumption
better gpu performance

clearly a fail... :shakes:

They really really need it for gpgpu though.

mmm

size, corecount, power connector is one thing, binning is another. A midrange part with high quality ram (6GHz) and highly binned cores is not a mid range part and won't have a decent profit...

The difference is power is very small in toms benches. Heck the 680 is in the middle between the 7950 and 7970 in power consumption. (Actually depending on how close kepler is set in terms of...

they do seem to have went for gaming and less for gpgpu where its gets destroyed by the 580 and every AMD 7 serie.

Great performance though.. dominating at 1080 without AA. Difference seem to...

If you base it solely on Unigene,

in the 2.0 the 7970 is 41% faster than the 580. I don't know what the 3.0 does more or taxes more, just giving an indication that basing average on a single...

twisting things?

the 7970 led the 580 with 24% on average... that number includes a few titles which were completely cpu limited (starcraft) and were with the release drivers of the 7970 (which...

we know the performance of the 7950, 7970, 580 and 480.
At that point we know the difference between the 480 and 580, 580 and 7950, 580 and 7970 and 7950 and 7970...

So if we assume valid...

ignoring the pink bars. The results for the 7950 and 7970 are in line with the first AMD drivers, not the ones we already have since february. Also these results are in line with 1920*resolutions....

Considering the rumoured GK whatever number isn't even in production (rumours) means that the current 104 is their high end chip.

Also if you believe Nvidia is happy when they can do a draw with...

You seriously believe Nvidia will choose to be on-par (IF the rumours are true which i don't think so) with AMD when they can easily be on top as well? I mean seriously?

Its better to be...

you mind saying what is different between both suicide runs? you really think intel 22nm chips will have a happy life under 1.8-1.9V? (Might point you to sandybridge that was made on 32nm and...

Thats indeed the basics yes... I understand perfectly.. do you?

Why do you believe one of the turboboost descissions is temperature?
Its very easy to get your intel 35W laptopchips to draw near...

Actually they are breaking TDP on grand scale basis.... Ofcourse that is in the laptop segment, but still they do. Probably it is also possible on the desktop when using the gpu and cpu at the same...

Well we know AMD is really struggling with the gate first concept and 32nm in general. Not reaching the frequencies they want with the voltages they want. Maybe in the 28nm process GF changed...

Interesting, the trinity follow up will be made on 28nm instead of 32nm, the same goes for the other desktop parts.

But if you compare with other reviews who also tested different games, the one hardocp tests are those which seems to have the biggest issues atm. So basically depending on the games the results are...

Those '3-d' transistor won't have any effect on ocing because they only have an advantage at low voltages. Ofcourse the smaller node still has an advantage.

So they gained about 400Mhz on a first...

Yeah the 299$ and performance > 7970 doesn't seem right.

that would make the whole >200$ lineup of nvidia complete obsolete. So how will they fill the space above and below?
570-580 would be...

Source

For a well known Nvidia hater, this makes me believe its probably true. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]


Highlighted some other parts given we don't know what he compares (if he even talks about...

They had as much problems as AMD....

AMd crossfire does work...
there are 2 games: Batman where it doesn't work and bf3 where it doesnt work in 2560 resolution but does in other resolutions....