Mushkin BLUE UTT looking good!

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04-03-2005, 06:09 PM
Ailleur

That fellow from mushkin said they had something to announce sometime soon. I doubt itll be at the 127$/gb price point though.
04-03-2005, 06:38 PM
Shroomalistic

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

They finally went out of stock... game over :(! Frankly, I didn't expect they'd last this long :p: !

where, it still says instock for me.
04-03-2005, 07:05 PM
GoldenTiger

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Originally Posted by Shroomalistic

where, it still says instock for me.

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/360...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Says "Call for availability", aka Out of Stock in Outpost-language.
04-03-2005, 07:08 PM
NoX

I got my dual pack, one PCB is green, the other is black. :confused: I am testing them right now and they don't look very promising. :upset:
04-03-2005, 07:13 PM
freecableguy

Remember, if this really is BH-5...it only gets better with time and more volts.
04-03-2005, 07:36 PM
Duonger

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecableguy

Remember, if this really is BH-5...it only gets better with time and more volts.

Bingo

add some juice to it and let it burn in.

Duonger :banana:
04-03-2005, 07:42 PM
cartmanea

Doesn't look like Outpost is out of stock to me. I got all the way to the submit order page and it never said they weren't in stock.
04-03-2005, 07:46 PM
Duonger

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoX

I got my dual pack, one PCB is green, the other is black. :confused: I am testing them right now and they don't look very promising. :upset:

Nox

What problems are you having?

Duonger
04-03-2005, 07:53 PM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartmanea

Doesn't look like Outpost is out of stock to me. I got all the way to the submit order page and it never said they weren't in stock.

If you've ever read about Outpost, Call for Availability means (it even says on their page if you click the text) that it is out of stock and will pretty much never come back in. You can place a backorder for it by adding to cart and checking out, but you're not going to get it.
04-03-2005, 07:55 PM
Duonger

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

If you've ever read about Outpost, Call for Availability means (it even says on their page if you click the text) that it is out of stock and will pretty much never come back in. You can place a backorder for it by adding to cart and checking out, but you're not going to get it.

Dont worry guys, Frys will get more this week but expect prices to go up. The chips are getting hot and now everyone is trying to buy them.

Duonger
04-04-2005, 03:18 AM
largon

@Duonger: Sticks on the next batch have black or green PCB?
04-04-2005, 03:24 AM
cartmanea

Well, my greenies both match up real well. One black matches the greenies in performance....but the other one is a MONSTER!!! At 3.2v, it passes over 100 loops of test 5 at 2-2-2-5, 244 MHz!!!

Duonger, can there be two different varieties of BH chips on the black pcb's? Say one with old BH-5 and one with new BH? Reason I ask, is one black pcb is dated 0319 and is a monster, the other is dated 0343 and is just ok.

I'm thinking maybe the 0319 PCB is leftover Level 2?
04-04-2005, 03:28 AM
largon

Hmm. Dual packs were just a minute ago "Call for Availability".
I happened to check my cart @ Outpost. There were some dual packs -> romoved them. Then refreshed the product description. Now it reads "In stock, same day shipping".
04-04-2005, 03:45 AM
eva2000

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

Shroomy,

Thanks for the link...every since I got that "warm welcome" over there I don't tend to go there very often. Based on what he (Duonger) said, it appears that these new Mushkin Blue use both, old bh-5 which Mushkin had saved for RMA purposes and new bh die. Here is his post copied below. He is responding to the question of whether these chips were held over stuff that Mushkin had kept for RMA.

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Yes and No.. Some were for RMA but when I got our chips this past month, Winbond sent us some of their old BH stock so I used those as well.

Its cool. We offer a lifetime warranty. The parts that come back as RMA we cant sale as new.

Duonger

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End of quote.

Notice he said he used "those" (new shipment) as well (as old RMA stock).

I am very surprised to hear that Winbond had old stock left. Must have been sitting in the Janitor's closet or something. :)

Again, thanks for that link. It helps with the overall picture...which is that there is old RMA stock, new shipment of old original bh-5 and new bh die being used in the latest Mushkin Blue dual-packs...somewhat confusing, but the good news is that it should all be pretty good ram.

Sounds like the good clockers are the older BH-5 stock that's left over and handle lower vdimm well as well
04-04-2005, 05:43 AM
Ailleur

NCIX still has them for us canadians.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...acture=MUSHKIN
04-04-2005, 07:50 AM
NoX

Duonger:
So far I could reach 240Mhz at 2-2-2-X 3.4V but I am getting 70-100 errors for each pass of Test#5. More volts don't help because the sticks get quite hot even if there is a 80mm fan blowing on top of them.
I am disappointed because I am very far from my goal which is to reach at least DDR500 speed. I don't have much experience with BH-5 but I doubt that after intensive burning they would improve that much.
However, I still have hope and I will keep torturing them for a few more days before making the final judgement. :cord:
04-04-2005, 07:52 AM
enzoR

u gotta cool it better
04-04-2005, 09:27 AM
musk

Just got this in the mail. Will post results. They are 2 single green PCBs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ushkinBlue.jpg

musk
04-04-2005, 12:21 PM
Duonger

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoX

Duonger:
So far I could reach 240Mhz at 2-2-2-X 3.4V but I am getting 70-100 errors for each pass of Test#5. More volts don't help because the sticks get quite hot even if there is a 80mm fan blowing on top of them.
I am disappointed because I am very far from my goal which is to reach at least DDR500 speed. I don't have much experience with BH-5 but I doubt that after intensive burning they would improve that much.
However, I still have hope and I will keep torturing them for a few more days before making the final judgement. :cord:

Keep playing and let me know. we have only tested thse for 3200 2-3-3.. so if you are getting past spec than that is :toast: .. i know u want these to run at ddr500 but there is no guarantees. Check bios is one of my seuggestion and test each stick individually to see if 1 is giving u probs.

Duonger
04-04-2005, 12:38 PM
jinu117

Well, what would be best way to remove heatspreader on this Duonger? I think I am well past bothering to ask warranty if there is any left :P These 4 sticks are great and I do want to know whats inside as well as giving it a little extra cooling by removing heatspreader (4 dimms do become very packed with heatspreader and not much air can possibly flow around ram with that space)
04-04-2005, 12:47 PM
Ashe

Is it possible I "killed" my Mushkins by trying to high clocks?
Did a VDimm-Mod and upped Voltage to 3.2V. Did a SuperPi run @230 2-2-2-5 (no time for memtest :(), it passed. Then tried 235mhz next and after 10 sek i got Bluescreen, now one stick is completely damaged (11000 errors @ memtest test 2 after 13%) and another one doesn't look to good, too (get 2 errors at the same adress every time in memtest test7, but will run SuperPi32M and sometimes Prime)

Think it wasmy damn mobo, doesn't seem to be good for overclocking (VDimm was fluctuating quite a lot at 3.2V)
Never heard of killing ram due to high clocks, is that possible?

2x Mushkin lvl2 Blue RIP
04-04-2005, 01:20 PM
Duonger

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinu117

Well, what would be best way to remove heatspreader on this Duonger? I think I am well past bothering to ask warranty if there is any left :P These 4 sticks are great and I do want to know whats inside as well as giving it a little extra cooling by removing heatspreader (4 dimms do become very packed with heatspreader and not much air can possibly flow around ram with that space)

Sorry if u remove it there is no warranty for them. But why question it if it runs so well.

Duonger
04-04-2005, 01:32 PM
sparkie34

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinu117

Well, what would be best way to remove heatspreader on this Duonger? I think I am well past bothering to ask warranty if there is any left :P These 4 sticks are great and I do want to know whats inside as well as giving it a little extra cooling by removing heatspreader (4 dimms do become very packed with heatspreader and not much air can possibly flow around ram with that space)

Put them in an anti static bag in the freezer for a couple of minutes will do the trick. They pop right off. :)
04-04-2005, 02:48 PM
idleuser

just got my pair in today it will not do 2-2-2-5@ 2.85v with my msi neo2.... however it does do 2-3-2-5 at 2.8v. the ones I got are a green BCP with B6U815.... not sure if these are bh5 but i will check them later :)
04-04-2005, 04:09 PM
josanai

Received my dual pack from outpost today. It is on the same PCB as my Mushkin Level II PC3500. So far it does:

217 @ 2.7 volts
225 @ 2.8 volts
235 @ 2.9 volts
240 @ 3.0 volts

All at 2-2-2-10-1T Dual Channel.

Looking good so far. Getting ready to put more volts into it. I hope it can do 266 @ 3.3 volts like my Level II's. Seems like the Level II's with the mushkin PCB are still the best for BH5.

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