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Originally Posted by googles
defo psu trouble as your using a generic mate.....OCZ test these to 240 with 3.2v so IMO its your psu
get a quality unit like an antec or OCZ
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Originally Posted by googles
defo psu trouble as your using a generic mate.....OCZ test these to 240 with 3.2v so IMO its your psu
get a quality unit like an antec or OCZ
Its a P4 platform, gonna be hard to get them to run quick on it.
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Originally Posted by BAcon
thx dude. ill try to pick one up soon. hope it gives me a little more. i knw it works better on amd but im waiting for msi/dfi nforce4 mobos to go retail before crossing over to amd.
i highly recommnd the msi board.
Just FYI OCZ did neither build or design this PSU, it´s built and designed by Topower and OCZ just has their own sticker put on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Theese things happens all the time in the world of PSUs and computerparts in general.
who cares, the powerstream PSU's are the best for extreme oc'ers (as far as i am concerned) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by avicenna
Well if they are best or not can surely be debated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nazaar
OCZ520 are great as long as they work, i am not yet convinced the build quality and lastabilty is as good as with Fortron PSUs for instance.
Great Place to talk PSU's....in a thread about memory ????
Just so you can rest easy, the Powerstream PSU has an extremely low failure rate. We have sold a ridiculous ammount of these and are maintaining better than industry standard quality. We would like a zero defect product, but given the nature of a PSU this is just not possible at this time. All PSU's have a failure rate. I have bought other major brands that were DOA or popped in the night. I just exchanged them or waited 2+ weeks for an RMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by avicenna
Since we have a large install base, escpecially here on XS, you hear about some failures. Also the guys that buy our PSU's are torturing the hell out of them . :)
If you have a failure, NO company will RMA you faster. We take pride in this and offer this as proof that we are not flooded with RMA units.
As far as stabilty, ask OPPaiinter or Fugger how there units are when hitting ludicrous speeds. They don't use Fortron.
Have a happy and safe new year. :banana4:
Yes, this is no mystery, but show me a Topower you can buy off the shelf that is identical. OCZ must have had some thing to do with it's design?Quote:
Originally Posted by avicenna
Damn that VX memory is awesome!
andyOCZ
WEll they are good PSUs or more then good perhaps even, i might had bought one myself if they whould have been around here where i live when i bought a new PSU this summer.
As for OPPainter and Fugger not using fortron or any other brand, no they use OCZ520 and how come.
Maybe they got them for free? :p: You guys hang around here and know how good publicity it is to have theese guys using your products :D
I don´t know i am just speculating ofcourse, whouldn´t suprise me though, you guys are not stupid and neither am i.
trans am
Well take a look at this ;)
http://www.dansdata.com/top686p6.htm
Look familiar? :p:
I am more impressed with theese newer OCZ-RAMs than the PSUs, just my 2..
any of these in UK.......
avicenna - I gotta say thats one of the more entertaining PSU reviews i've read.. guy mentions line restrictions too, among other things.. very good review actually heh.
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TOP-600P5 looks interesting... http://www.topower.com.tw/home/power_supply_atx12v.htm
That sure does look familiar. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by avicenna
They like our design we came up with so much they are selling one it appears. I guess we could call that a form of flattery. I was involved in specing our PSUs, so I know who came first. :) No one else can offer our warranty and RMA service though.
As far as giving away PSUs to some of the worlds top overclockers, why not? Yes it's good advertisment but rest assured they get given crap that they never use at all, so again we are flattered by the records they set with our gear. We are running a successful business and are not out to fool anyone. The stuff these guys get comes off the same line as what you buy. This alone would make me feel better about my purchase. It sure made us feel better about selling them to you.
Anyway, have a good Holiday and a Happy New Year!! :banana4:
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Originally Posted by andyOCZ
Since were talking PSU's in memory thread, let me ask a PSU question :)
So your so flattered your not gona sue them for coppying your PSU ???
First of all i am glad we can have an open discussion like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
As far as giving away PSUs to the worlds top overclockers, that whould be one the first things i whould do myself. You can´t get any better advertisement than that, it´s like hitting the jackpot or finding a veritable gold mine.
Everybody will want to have one when they see that OPP, fugger, Macci and the likes use it. Can´t get any better than that and all for peanuts money.
Give away a couple of PSUs and RAM-modules and make big bucks out if it, wonder if OPP and Fugger ever thought about the fact that it´s you who are the winners in this deal;)
Ofcourse the product whould have to be good enough so i whould and i assume you did compare and test the PSU against some other competitors before official launch, otherwise the whole deal whould have backfired if the product was not up to par.
Now to the more important issue, you are claiming that OCZ infact designed that PSU and you speced it.
(Whistles in amazement!)
Before i go any further can you please explain exactly what you mean by designed?
Designed the whole PSU and it´s components from scratch, or more like chose the colour of the PSU and the ledfan?
Have a happy and succesfull new year! :)
PS: Sorry for turning this into a psu thread.
Yes he has a unusual and entertaining way of writing his reviews. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Guys, this is a memory thread. :)
The OCZ engineering department worked hard on the PSU design. We came up with the 3 adjustable rail idea, specified the quality of parts and all. Beyond that I can't say abiut who is selling what. I doubt you will see that for sale in the US. We might call the lawyers if that happens.
Back to VX! ;)
some damn good stuff indeed, too bad t doesnt scale higher with more volts.
back to memory. Enlighten me again why tight timings are so important. I'm currenty using an o/c 2.8ghz to 3.8ghz P4 setup running slack timings for high FSB.
So for high FSB and the performance boost why doesn't the same apply ?
My Geil Ultra plat ddr500 would be crap on a 64 setup ? i.e it wasn't designed for tight timings ?
I'm confused..!! :confused:
Oh one more thing. if the VX is 'the best' why is it 'gold' rather than 'platinum' ?What I'm getting at is there any better ram for a 64 setup ?
TCCD is the platnum, because it will run DDR 2-2-2-5 at extremly low volts.
raw speed will beat out timings but it may take something like another 25mhz of speed to make 2.5-3-3-7 to run equal with 2-2-2-5, depending on your setup of course.
Its a balance.. the best chips out there are still BH but they arent easy to find all the time.. :D
What you need to know really is if you want 24/7 or benchmarks.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...635#post654635
would latency help in anything other then benchmarks?
looks like theres a dedicated memory section now :) "xtreme bandwidth"
Of course it would. Compiling, rendering, gaming, etc... can be anything that is memory intensive.
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Yeah, thought I clicked on the overclocking forum and there was only about 14 topics... was confused lol :confused: :stick: :D :D
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Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
That's so curious.. i've just tried to set a 133 divider on my Neo 2 and voilá... it likes it :)
http://genetics.intercomgi.com/krampak/PC/360.JPG
Any mod there. Will try harder later.
My crappy TCCD don't do 230 2-2-2.. need some VX or BH5 there.
quick question on psu, sorry off topic.
does having a nonPFC psu even matter if you're using an UPS with line filtering?
no it doesnt :)
Hey guys, do you think this bandwidth could be real?
8551MB/s on a 2.8E @ 260x14 3-4-4
no way that possible
i gat my vx and they stable in 270mhz at 2-2-2-5 3.7v and not stable at 275mhz with the same timing
3.7v it to much for the vx :confused:
that looks like 270 3-4-4-7 ?
omg my mistake (3-4-4-7 = my old corsair)Quote:
Originally Posted by LilGator
hare you go 270 and 265 2-2-2-5, the 3.7 can do some problem?
Be careful that you are cooling the modules VERY WELL at 3.7v. Put a strong fan blowing right on them. Heat will kill RAM. Only use as much voltage as necessary. Just adding more voltage is not good. We only warranty the VX to 3.5v.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupra
Understand that OPP uses extreme cooling methods for his overclocks. This is the key to hittting those speeds.
i have a question for all those having their VX in 250-260 range on Neo2....
when you're testing for stability, are you having any problems in keeping this RAM error-free in memtest for more that 1 hour or not being able to "primie" at all even though games and SuperPI 32M are OK?
my first set was doing DDR512 memtest 9hrs and Prime95 no probs.... my current set gives me errors at above 1hr even at DDR400 and oddly enough i can't even Prime if i don't set max mem to ~800MB (i know, prime95 and 1GB = problems u say) even though i could do it with my first set, not to mention 2x256MB BH-5....
i need your input, please ;)
I've got no problems with mine. Click the link in my sig and notice I can run 12 hours of Prime without incident. The key is keeping the memory and Booster nice and cool. ;)
damn Conrad, when i first saw what your mems were doing a while ago i was impressed....Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
yeah, i know.... my mems and Booster are cool enough.... i'm just dissapointed and ATM thinking about getting some TCCD that hopefully does DDR590-600.... sorry :(
I'm actually running a little bit higher than 263MHz now. This stuff has gotten better over time. I'm just saving the ooohs and aaahs for my next rig. :D
After seeing what the new G.Skill kits can do, I'm tempted to purchase a set. I had pretty good results with my 2x256MB kit when they first dropped, so I might consider playing with G.Skill TCCD in the 2x512MB variety one of these days.
Look for the 90nm Winchester Prime95 thread on XS. Many won't Prime at all, even at 200fsb.Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
well, this is not a Winnie issue as i can prime with 2x256MB BH-5, first set of VX 2x512MB but just not with the one i have now :(Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
with the first set of VX prime95 run first time i fired it up... this set i have now will not "prime" at all (error in blend ~1min, caused by most likely by "1GB - swap file Prime-related bug") unless i set max memory to be used as around 800MB).
i have no clue what's up with that so i guess i will just give up on that VX set ( i'm sorry Andy, i appreciate ALL your help, bro ;) )
ok andy i will, now i put 80mm fan to cooling the vx, and i give 3.6v (fullQuote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
load at 3.5v)
I have a question. memtest86 shows exactly 1 error per loop since around loop#50 at 250MHz 2-2-2-8 or 10, howcome?
#50 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarilynMX
its to much tests.
if its stable in the 5 test its supposed to be stable , so in test namber 50 also.
ram is getting too hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarilynMX
I can run memtest days but seems my system will randomly reboot in windows after hours memtest. I've read some threads about this issue. I always have to reset bios or leave my system running at stock speed before tunning booster/ram again. The PSU i'm using is a brand new OCZ 600W guess it shouldnt be power issue.
What is too hot for memory on those extreme condition (voltage & speed) Got 2 60mm fan directly on top of memory (I found it that these cools better than typical 2 80mm due to pressure of air it generates) and heatsink on booster and memory (inside heatspreader using infrared thermo) reads tops 36c (about 7-8c above ambient) with 3.5v 255 2-2-2-5) What are the temps of your sticks for those who can go 250+ with decent voltage? Just trying to figure out how much more room I got with this pair. (Oh, I use memtest86 only to test windows boot issue now. Windows memtest seems much better at finding if it will fail system or not more so than memtest86... it usually is stable 3-4mhz below what memtest86 is stable at).
Hmmm need to pick up VX back from my friend who played 270 2-2-2-5 with it :P (think he got it to 3.6v though)
Bit off topic... I am starting to really like this gigabyte K8NS 939ultra. No divider issue with VX, no wierd things I should be worried about, everything is working like charm with F5 bios.
I think PC Power & Cooling is even better, I own one and it's really the best PSU I've tested and owned. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nazaar
yea but powerstream is better bang for the buck and adjustable rails.
Don't forget you are runnig a half multiplier (x10,5), your memory is now running at 2893/11 = 263 MhzQuote:
Originally Posted by cupra
But that's ofcourse still nice :toast:
This VX memory sounds great, I just got my new system, still trying to tweak most of the things. So far my CPU runs at 2920Mhz stock cooled (FX-55) and the card at 600/600 (Powercolor X800XT)
I have G.Skill memory though and I can't get it to run at thight timings above 220Mhz, so I'm running 265 2.5-3-3-7 which costs me a lot of points I think. Don't know if I'm missing something about this memory, cause I don't think the G.Skill is that great... :confused: So far I only got 33k (Not tweaked and using WinXP though)
Pump that FSB up to 290, you'll see if what it's like then :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris85
I been reading the thread and i wanna ask if you guys think this ram will run ok on a DFI LP 250gb (s754) board ?
to Jinu117: I tried memory divider on my board. Somehow CPU-Z doesnt show 200MHz but 188ish if I let cpu run at 240x11 using 166 divider. However, system boots up with DDR333 at 200MHz? Is this the problem you were talking about?
If your looking for VX Outpost have it in stock now.
^ thanks for the heads up
Yes. It will definitely run on the DFI 754 board. I've tested up to 269MHz with 2x512MB error-free and stable with that board and a Clawhammer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klisp
Kewl... thx for the reply. I'm gonna purchase some friday. Thanks again ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
I wish OCZ would make the VX in 2x256 kits for the people who dont need a gig 'o ram, and another reason, I cant afford to dump 250 into ram, Its extremly good ram, but yet again, I dont want to spend extra for what I dont need for the time being.
It'd be great for sales and ect, and I'm sure its been talked about at the OCZ HQ
you could unsolder 1/2 the chips and run 2x256 that way.. :D:D
Or you can check out the Twinmos sticky, cough up a few bucks, buy a 2x256MB kit, and be a happy camper. ;)
Not worth ruining excellent memory in venture of smaller sticks :xQuote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
i wish i could find some Twinmos SP in Canada :rolleyes:
Just got my OCZ Vx here in Holland :toast:
http://home.planet.nl/~keust016/265pifast.JPG
how can i resize my screen in vbullet?
Like I said over a month ago:DQuote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
VX dominates.
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=23238&stc=1
WOW.
People are all hyped up over GSkill, this stuff whoops its ass! DDR540 @ 2-2-2-5 1T gives much better bandwith than DDR600 @2.5-3-3-7 1T!
Amazing stuff. Depending how low my Gskill want to go it seems like i'm going to pick up a gig of these!
How high at any timings does this ram go? 270 2-2-2-5 is nothing short of amazing, with only BH5 beating it :)
Hello Guys ! /newbie, 1st post :p: /
I have a few questions:
You use only memtest to check memory or other soft?
Why I asking? because i tested my XV (my new mems :p: ) with memtest #5 ~~50 lops without errors, super pi 16M, prime ~~1 hour also. But gold memory 'show me' many errors (test 121+) and i don't know which test is more 'believable'. It's normal appearance, or I expected too much from them?
I tested them at: @235 2-2-2 3,25V (dual on nf7) :confused:
P.S. sorry for my english :rolleyes:
Greetings
it's normal on NF7 mobos...they dont tend to allow high FSB...some kind of wall at 225 range
...everything above it's a bonus.
Probably yes... but I tested them yesterday with prime ~~3-4 hours @235 3,2V without any problem. Today I try to burn in them with memtest, maybe it's the way...
But, what with first part of my question? Why with goldmemory I have errors, so other progs. runs fine all the time? I don't know what is wrong with this program...
Got myself a new pr 2 :)
http://img135.exs.cx/img135/5972/273sandra1fp.jpg
3,5v
not memtest stable though, but i can run a 3dmark2k1se bench with ~270mhz 3,5v :toast: :banana:
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Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
windows 2000 dominate. :rolleyes:
Whats your point? The VX is a big part of this equation as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYNET
:D Hey OPP - did Ya try it with "real" BH-5 ??? :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Hi everyOne !
If I said I can overclocked a Ocz platimum revision II PC3200
at 285Mhz in 1:1 cas: 2.5-3-3-6 with only 2.7v !!! Anyone
would believe me ???
i guess we would have to..grudgingly of course ;) or hope its a .5 multi
kidding...its not unheard of..so cheers mate
What burn in procedure is better: with Memtest or with Sandra? Will unwackme-BH5-BurnIn help für UTT too?
Seriously ! I wanna make sure, if anyone have ever see anybody who overclocked a OCZ Patimum Revision II PC3200, that can handle with stability, with only 2.7v at 285Mhz 1:1 cas 2.5-3-3-6Quote:
Originally Posted by googles
Don't know if I count, but I hit 300fsb at 2.8v on the new DFI NF4 Ultra-D board with the OCZ Plat Rev 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDfan
Of course I'm running VX at 265mhz, 2-2-2-5 @ 3.4v with the DFI NF4 Ultra-D. :banana:
Hey Andy did your sticks always do that speed or only after time?
Andy, maybe I've already asked it, but can you run your VX higher than 3.4vdimm without losing stability?Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
I've ordered a kit of VX from newegg b/c of this thread, and I hated my TCCD haha.
did anyone hit 300 with the vx? cuz i would really like to get me some ram that does 300 with 2-2-2-5 timings stable...
tell us if you found any. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wfarid
too much :banana4: lately ??? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by wfarid
sure i'd believe you. my 3200plat rev2 did 285 2.5-3-36 @ 2.85v. it's not a stretch of the imagination that another person could do it at 2.7. that is of course assuming your psu rails are all at stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDfan
it's a dream man, a dream that may in fact come true especially with the new venice cores and san diegos that are coming out...
Anyone try VX and the 4vdimm on the DFI yet?
Prior to my Ultra-D's death, I had my jumper set to enable the 4V option. With 3.6VDIMM (unverified BIOS setting), I was able to run at 10x271MHz 1:1 2-2-2-7-1T 3DMark stable. I was also able to run 3DMark at 9x277MHz 1:1 2-2-2-7-1T with the same voltage. That's with 2x512MB modules, in case anyone's wondering.
I shipped my board back to Newegg for replacement. You can expect to see some screenshots from my end when the new board arrives. ;)
good TCCD surely can do that. my G.Skill 4800GBLA can do 283 2.5-3-3-7 with 2.6V...these modules are pretty good...Quote:
Originally Posted by jikdoc
Hi, a question: I'll buy a DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D. I must choose beetwen these VX and Geil Ultra-X PC3200/4400 (TCCD) ... which would you buy? I have understood VX modules needs much vdimm .... DFI vdimm limit is? 3.4v?
Thx for attention ;)
EDIT: another question ... I see G.Skill LE/LA or Geil UltraX 3200/4400 (TCCD) reaching 300 mhz but with high timings and VX reaching 260 but with aggressive timings ... what is it better? Can VX with higher timngs reach 300 mhz?
1. definately VX or Twinmos SP with UTT chips. DFi NF4 have 4.0v onboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by XiN
2. VX works best at 2-2-2-X. You can't get 300 MHz with the VX.
Uhm, ok thx ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bwan
For a daily use 250x10 in your opinion what it is better? VX or TCCD modules (Geil UltraX, OCZ PC3200 Platinum rev. 2 etc...)?
Have tried up to 3.6v (board overvolts by 0.1, so is actually giving 3.7), however, at ANY speeds if running over 3.4Vdimm, memtest gives tons of errors. Ignoring that, I was up to 270x10 in Windows (with Clockgen) with my doggy cpu and subzero outside air coming from the window, was good for screenshots and playing around a little, but no serious benches, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
:( My brand new VX is not even botting into windows @ 220 with 3.2V with my DFI ultra-D.
Does this stuff need that much of a burn in or....? :stick:
Try a little bit more voltage. ;)
3.4V and still nothing. Can't get even load windows, just reboots.
I've tried both sticks seperately and neither make it @ 215 :shrug: :brick:
Perhaps the shipping bios doesn't like VX?
My shipping BIOS did well with my VX. Try trading places with the memory. Just switch them around and see what happens.
Do you have active cooling for the DIMM region? Do you have another PSU that you can test?
Yes I have an 80mm fan on them and I also have another PSU I can try but its not as good. its an antec 380 trupower =/
I'll try tradding places with the ram.
What's the highest speed your CPU can hit? Try a lower CPU multiplier and a higher higher HTT.
Chip is 2.7Ghz 24/7 stable. Got VX B/c I didn't like TCCD.