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hey's guy's I just tried out the 2/09 bios on the DFI NF4, and noticed at 265 my VX was giving off a ton of errors which it didn't with the 2/25. Basically I noticed that after the Level4 option in the bios, some of the settings were changed from auto in the 2/25 to different values. Now being the idiot I didn't try changing one at a time to isolate what setting it was, but by changing all to auto and the second to last to 07x I was able to run 265 again with no errors.
2-2-8-2-7-16-2-2-2-2-auto-auto-enabled-auto-0-auto-level4-auto-auto-auto-auto-auto-07x-auto
Now I am sure these are not very great optimised settings as I only get 3.8K unbuff at 265 but it does atleast let me get an OC and able to tweak a bit. Just thought you all might want to try it out.
Have you tryed changeing the 16 to a 17 and see if it helps get you higher clocks?Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidKool
OPP
Actually I really haven't tried changing much. I just really got this board set up a day or so ago. Half of those settings I got off of a post by Radelon. Now on my K8N Neo2, 261 was tops. So in all I am getting a little higher clock off the bat.
I am running to work right now though, but I will try tonight to see what happens. I am also going to try and isolate what settings were giving the errors.
Thanks alot for believed me for that, but the problem is, I don't believed it myself :( , like you said you did 285mhz at 2.5-3-3-6 with 2.85v that's cool, I can swallow it, but, 285 2.5-3-3-6 with only 2.7v :shakes: I understanded that TCCD chips don't need much voltage , but still hard to believed :exclamatiQuote:
Originally Posted by jikdoc
this is a n00b question i suppose but when you guys say to run at test 5 on memtest why is this?isnt test 8 more intensive on the mem?
Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDfan
tu me croit pas encore!!!! :rolleyes: :p:
5 uses less ram so the ram that is being utilized will heat up more than using test 8, possibly. But test 8 runs longer (but through more ram, so..).Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
Nobody has looked into which is better really.. :D
I've just get my OCZ VX today
2x512
I let you know the result when I get my DFI.
http://verybadman.free.fr/overclocking/Sta61334.jpg
Damn they are beautiful
I think I'll set an new avatar.
ECK :slobber:
damn f***! one of my VXs has died. can one of you OCZ dudes sort me out with the UK return address please. please dont tell me I have to return to the retailer in the U.S. :(
so sad, they were running nice at 254MHz 3.4V. :(
my 3200 winnie sat nice at 2.54GHz 1.475V :(
yes im very sad today :(
running with one precious VX. :(
Damn, sorry for you man, I just got mine today when one of yours died.Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
Hope there will have no problem for you to get one new.
ECK
I've heard to run test 5 looping first for your burn in. Then find your max where it doesn't show any errors and then run that same FSB with test 8. Usually it will show some errors until your FSB comes down but not much maybe 1 to 3 FSB. Just my 2 centsQuote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
If you are running, say - 3,3V. Wouldn't you need some cooling besides the OCZ heatspreaders?
vx dont really get warm btu I always had a silenx 80mm over them via a zalman bracket, more to keep the booster cool than anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by DildePer
Tony from OCZ (thanks to Ryanpgroovy) has kindly offered for me to send the dead VX to him and he will have immediate replacement shipped from US.
Lucky for me he is due to meet his US counterparts or I would have had to mail them to US.
cheers OCZ guys. :toast:
Cheers, and thanks for bringing me the good news :D
Well, not all is pink color.
I tried a kit of 1 GB (OCZ PC3200 VX) and was something disappointed. They were unstable at 3.1v 200 MHz 2-2-2-8, but at 3.2v they were stable up to 240 MHz wirh 2-2-2-5 and without preburning.
Now my problem, I don't know why but my OCZ Booster was unstable with these memories, even if I tried 3.4v the voltage sometimes fell to 3.0v causing in that moment my Windows to crash and to restart, with a pair of BH-5 my Booster was completely stable and never had a problem, geez.
So I had a chance to sell both, my VX and my Booster to different people, phew, now I'm waiting for my GSkill LA, let's hope I'd be happy. :)
sounds strange though hasnt there been this issue raised b4 with some enermax psus and boosters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gauss
I wish I could know. I'm using a PC Power & Cooling Turbo-cool 510 Deluxe and the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. The Booster was fine with BH-5, but with the VX no luck.
Hey, i am just wondering if people could help me out with my OCZ Gold VX timmings. i got the following hardware:
DFI NF4 Ultra-D motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939 with XP-120 and fastest Panaflo
OCZ powerstream 520watt psu
OCZ 2x512MB PC3200 Gold VX
ATi X850XT-PE PCI-Express
Raptor HD 74GB
The best Stable overclock i have gotton is 260x10 at 1.6vcore 3.5vDimm at 2-2-2-8 timmings but i know that the Gold VX can do better, any suggestions or exact settings to use on my Gold VX with the DFI NF4 motherboard?, Thank you.
Edit: I am using the stock BIOS 1/25, out of the beta ones is their a really good one to use?
Burn in may be your best bet, 260 isnt that bad, just lower then average.
whats the best way to burn in ram?
Hi, you can run at 200mhz, aith 2-2-2 timings using 3.2v for about 48 hours. 24 hours minimum. Run memtest and loop test 5. Memtest can be turned on in your BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by DBZ_GOD
This procedure seems too help when you crank up the volts and speeds later.
I will be starting a thread tomorrow with some suggested VX timings here on XS. Check it out then.
okay, but as for the memtest, i looked all over in my BIOS and found nothing related to turning on memtest or memtest itself at all!?, my guess it is under some other name in the BIOS other then memtest but i dunno what its then called.
it is in the bios genie section. Just keep scrolling down under the voltage options and you will see it.
As far as your previos post, 260 is pretty good. Mine do 265 but only after burn in. I have a post around here somewhere with some timings to use, but I haven't investigated every option in the dfi bios. I have my pc3700 gold rev 3's in right now so I can't even check a64 tweaker.
**EDIT** Here's the link to my post. Just something to try.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...964#post718964
I looked below the voltages, and all thats there is the 2 lan cards, SATA ports and firewire options no memtest at all, i am on the stock 1/25 BIOS so i guess i gotta flash to 1 of the betas to get memtest built into the BIOS?
See below.....
Double post .
The latest memtest version is included in the latest beta 0218 bios for the DFI LP NF4's.Quote:
Originally Posted by DBZ_GOD
Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
Just got my RMA replacement for the VX and im a little disappointed to say the least. the pair RMAed did 250 2-2-2 at 3.5V no sweat.
put these new ones in and was disappointed that they wouldnt do a single loop of test 5 at 3.2V 2-2-2. in fact had to up all the way to 3.5V to get it to pass at 200MHz. :(
tried at 240 3.5V-3.7V and errors at first loop. so ive dropped back to 230MHz 3.5V and they passed. Im hoping if I leave them for 48 hours looping then they will improve but I dont think they will really get that much beter or am I wrong?anyone get a great increase after burning in?
btw im on a neo2 s939 with 1.36b BIOS. the most annoying thing is my CPU will do 2.7GHz but since the dividers dont run on this mobo with VX I could be stuck at say 2.35-2.4GHz. :(
arent these tested to at least 240 2-2-2?
wow and ppl said I was picky about mine maxing out @ 238Mhz, you RMA'd a set that did 250?
They are rated @ 240 2228 but not test iirc.
lol dont be silly i never RMAed cos they werent fast enough. one of them died and I RMAed both as a set. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chr0n1c
I tryed to find a optimal timing for the DFi nF4 and VX mems, is this quit hardcore?Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidKool
Or what do you have benching/ 24/7 use?
chers
I was using that for 24/7 use. I haven't gotten really tweaked benching timings yet, cause I was spending so much time on my SLI setup. Come to find out one card was borked.
Basically all the non auto setting are pretty good. The 2/25 bios also sets some really good timings, and is pretty fast but still alowing max OC.
Please burn the VX in and see what you get. We are testing no different than we have all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
Are you cooling the modules with a fan? If your last set died it was probably due to heat. Heat will also cause errors.
Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
do you think i should run them at say 230MHz 2-2-2 at 3.5V for 48 hours to burn them in, as they wont run at 200 and 3.2V, needing 3.5V to be stable at even low frequencies.
btw I do wish to point out that OCZ RMA process is second to none and I have nothing but the utmost praise for the customer care you guys provide. Big thumbs up! :toast:
edit:ive always had an 80mm silenx blowing on these via a zalman bracket and they are barely warm to touch.
Hey guys, when burning in the ram does i half to have them doing a test loop of #5 for 24hours stright or do i gotta do like little increments like, looping for 6 hours when at work, and looping for 10 hours when sleeping etc etc?, cuz i use my computer everyday so i can't really just let it sit for 24 to 48 hours stright letting the ram burn in.
The main issue is not slamming it with 3.5v right off the bat. You can certainly run at lower volts and memtest when you are not using it. No problem there.
Okay good thats a relief cuz i just don't got the time to do 24 to 48 stright, so thats good, but too bad i didn't know that before, cuz i slammed mine with 3.5v right off the bat, and well there dead lol :lol: so there gonna be RMA'd , but my next pair i will do the memtest looping of 3.2v for 48 hours totaly then go for the overclocks and not hammer it with 3.5v right off the bat.
oops..
wait for ur result lol
damn :(
got 2x512 OCZ PC4000 VX
i did burn-in them for ~20H at 200 2-2-2-5 at 3.2V
but they only get stable@250 on 3.5(!!!) V :(
what could i try? which bios works best 4 vx px4000?
this is a very handy forum, at least some people who know something about hardware
anyways, im planning on buying ocz vx as well (pc3200)
in combination with dfi nf4 sli-dr 3500+winny and xfx 6800gt
should give me a pretty fast pc
i will build a waterchiller somewhere in the summer break to make it fly, will have more time and money then
hope the memory will do good, but i'm pretty sure cause of all the good feedbacks on the memory "best memory made since bh-5"
not try 3.5 V over ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Th3__W00T_GuY__
it is OCZ PC 4000 VX better than BH-5 ?
damnit my pc4000vx suck!!! :(:( :( :( :( :(
Keep burning them in.... I doubt you've maxed them out yet... if they still don't do 250 @ 3.3V after a week or so of burning in, make a post in the OCZ forum about it and the OCZ reps will help you out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Th3__W00T_GuY__
but shipping in the us is VERY expensive from europe (austria..) :(:(
how should i burn them in?
2-2-2-10-1T@200@3.3V OR 2-2-2-10-2T@250@3.5 OR another possibility?
i should burn them in >80h ????
OCZ recommends 2-2-2 @ 3.2V for 48 hours, then just keep pushing it up until you start getting errors, then let it run test #5 until the errors are gone. Eventually when you hit 3.5-3.6V and are still getting the same amount of errors after hours of test #5, you can assume you've hit your limit... then back it down until you get no more errors and that should be your max.
so, i did memtest 24h now, but i will let run memtest86+ 1.51 for another 24 or even more h!!! but my bosster is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up i guess.... suddenly it showed 3.0Vdimm! and then i got 450000 errors... so i had to adjust it to 3.2V again... should i continu with this errors?? (they did just appear once!)
yeah but how do i burn mine in as they wont do 200MHz at 2-2-2 3.2V. anything under 3.5V gives errors.bah!
ops .. wrong post
i didnt exactly read every post of this thread but has anyone ran them through 50+ passes of memtest @ [Edit: whoops.... 260-270mhz] 2-2-2 and not got any errors?
by the way it would be nice if they werent twice the price in the uk as they are in the US... dam the uk's taxes!!
I can only dream mine seems to top out at 250 :( did have some twinmos speed premium that did 258 before this vx but thats now gone gutted!Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
yeah well brad yours is a dream compared to my nightmare. even after 48 hours of burn-in I get errors in test 5 at a measley 230MHz at 3.5V. *$%*&£&!!!!!!!!!!!
mmm i get a few errors in test 5 at 255 using no more than 3.4v, ocz guys over at bleeding edge have tried recommending a few tweaks yet hasnt really improved anything for me, the tref made the biggest difference. I think I might try looping test 5 at 250 and see if that makes any diffQuote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
tref???can you link me to the thread with tweak hints please mate?Quote:
Originally Posted by bradmax57
got to try something im not too happy.
try TRC @ 13 and TRFC @ 15.
CH liked those two a bit looser, BH can tighten them down more..
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8093Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
three different settings, wether you have a newcastle, winchester or clawhammer
comparison with my BH :)
my suicidal screenie with 2 BH
not bad but 285-290 like my 9nda3+ in benchmarks....
my SS is missed with clockgen :p:
too fast...
http://cpull.free.fr/Overclocking/Ra...loverclock.gif
296 max is the best, same timings with my 9nda3+
I'll try with the 9NPA+
ive ran 255 2-2-2-5 for 8 hours, no memtest errors, 3.6V.
Tryed 260 same settings, and i got 1 error in a 3 hour test of memtest.
All other ram settings at stock, what do you guys reccommend? 3.7volts? Got dual 80mm fans over em.
Just got my VX 4000. They'll run at 254 with no errors in memtest. Hopefully they will hit 260 after burn-in.
I haven't been able to test mine yet, but I'll post my results when I get around to it...
BTW, I think I saw my stickers on there said 2-3-3-8...does anyone elses say that? I assume that's the rated speed for defaults, and the volts need to be applied before 2-2-2 is obtainable.
The stickers on the new kit that I received today say 2-3-3-8 PC 3200 Gold Edition VXQuote:
Originally Posted by isp
I guess that is for 2.6 VDIMM?
From reading over at BE they say the sticker represents the SPD to ensure that they boot safely. Can't remember the actualy post about that tho but it was confirmed by the OCZ reps and they assured everyone they're still rated at 2-2-2-8
http://img231.exs.cx/img231/9477/vx21oa.jpg
SS with my Vx Dc :)
maybe I can do 280 with the 1.36mod bios.
Gonna try tonight.
Edit:
Could pifast @273. 3,7volt i believe.
http://img220.exs.cx/img220/8498/273pifast1ia.jpg :toast:
Anandtech revisits OCZ VX
Just checked it out. Looks pretty much the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaY3r07
Nice to see some comparison between OCZ TCCD at DDR636 2,5-4-3-7 and the VX at 10x267.
you all seen this ?
PC5000 Platinum
anyone got any ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=59086Quote:
Originally Posted by graham_h
Ok so I'm at 248MHZ on my pc3200 VX. I tried at 3.2V, no go. 3.5V no go, 3.4V no go. And just for the hell of it i try 3.3 and no errors? IS that normal? IS there some kind of frequency to voltage ratio anyone is aware of?
It's just like that sometimes.
I'm thinking of buying the Value VX for my p4 2.8c 478 p4c800-e system, does it perform any good on p4 ?
http://www.venomousmofo.com/mofo04/260vx.jpg
http://www.venomousmofo.com/mofo04/260vx3.jpg
Theres an example of what my Value VX does.. $150 well spent. 3.5V and i really havent even tweaked it. Wish i had a 10X multi on this crappy CBBID. It runs D20L stable now for 4 days straight.
heh, I'm kind of having some funky results with that too. "Less is more" :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnj
I burned mine in at 3.2v (2-2-2) for about 24 hours, and then I slowly worked my way up to 250 at 3.4v. Any voltage over about 3.55 I get a ton of errors in memtest (no matter what speed). I guess I'm not cooling them enough for that high of volts...
I'll play with it some more later to try and get it stable at high v, but for now they're looping memtest at 255 (3.4v).
I'm a bit carefull before buying these modules
2*256Mb pc4000 OCZ VX ...
After reading this thread, I dont realy know what to do ?
Everybody advices to run these modules at an DFI board but I'm using the MSI Neo2 Platinum...
Any info ?
jz got my booster, my corsair pc3500 bh5 manage to run 252 @ 2-2-2-11,1T @ 3.5v
They need volts to run tight timingsQuote:
Originally Posted by BerT
If you can't put 3.3v-3.4v into the VX memory, it will not work for you. TCCD is best at lower volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by BerT
I have a OCZ DDR Booster
And I already have some tccd (OCZ pc4000 gold rev2) who manages to do 290HTT but i want tighter timings.
Any advice ?
I think that UTT at 260~270mhz with tight timings get way better perfomance than 290mhz loose timings. (u could use a divider and done ;))Quote:
Originally Posted by BerT
1) UTT @ 270 is damn rear... and probably not possible at 3.5vDimm unless you get damn lucky sticks.
2) I am pretty sure OCZ pc4000 gold rev2 are Hynix DT-D5 chips... Hynix for sure but the code may be different
Im not saying 3.5v, thats way to less. All the DFI Owners got 4volts to burn those chips up to the sky ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
What is the safe 24/7 v for the vx ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacke2k
if you have a fan blowing over them id say up to 3.7V is safe enough for 24/7 use but the best way to decide is by how they clock.
e.g. if you get 265MHz 2-2-2 at 3.5V but only up to 268MHz at 3.7V then better off running at 3.5V.
however if say they wont go above 250MHz at 3.5V but will go to 265MHz at 3.7V then you now which one to go with. ;)
[QUOTE=Rabbi_NZ]1) UTT @ 270 is damn rear... and probably not possible at 3.5vDimm unless you get damn lucky sticks.
i disagree having had 2 sets of VX and one of twinmos UTT all doing above 265MHz at 3.5V.
I'v got a xp120 and it stretches over both mems so the cooling problem i think is solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
id be careful with 24/7 at 3.7, the max most went on BH chips were 3.6 24/7... but i guess i havent heard of too much dieing anyways...i think anything over 3.4 becomes a risk, but all overclocking is a risk, just a matter if you want to take it.
Thats true but i think the vx has garanti up to 3.5 v
They are actually rated 3,5v + 5% makes 3,675v
so, i can rma my vx if it gets errors on 3.5v while 3.3v at the same clocks is stable!?
I just meant 3,675 is max volt you can feed it without loosing yr warranty.
PFFT warrenty...who needs it!!!
Any way this is some GREAT ram..you can get a little more performance out of by using cas 1.5 and not loose any OC...But i love mine better than BH-5 but hell it is CH-5-UTT...some new BH-5-UTT is cooming out here in the near future though...
Dragon
wow, forgot they raised it.Quote:
Originally Posted by loc.o
Just thought I'd post a taste of my VX results...
I'm running it at about 3.675
I'm impressed, only a little over a week of running it so far, and have gotten some pretty good results, though only 2meg SPI stable so far...
Gray
i take it you arent memtest stable then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Mole
@Gray Mole: Wow, 1.5-2-2-5-7-15 1T at 267mhz using "only" 3.675v Respect :).
Don't know mate, I haven't used memtest since I got rid of my DFI board, it was all right when I had memtest built in, but too much trouble for now...
'sides...if you're not 32m SPi stable, you're not fully memtest stable, I would imagine...
and some stuff in the piccy...I think I like the ram at cas2 anyway for now, at least until I start heavily benching it again, waiting for some vmods on my card so maybe next week...
Still not quite 4 meg stable yet, but it'll burn in I'm sure, and if it doesn't...well I have 2 other 24/7 rigs, and they run tccd...I want more speed, not more stability, but that's just me...
Gray
edit, that was meant to have the spd for the VX in there :slap: not 2 of the same cpuz shots
I've added a sub-37 pifast in there as well, it ran 269 at 1.5-2-2-5 long enough to take that, but I didn't want to risk losing it to a blue screen :eek:
No, use what works for you. The higher voltage if for modules that like that much. The voltage you need depends on your board and CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_KHAN
I'm not really sure I'd understand why you'd WANT to rma sticks that will work well with lower volts...
Generally I've found that you add voltage to compensate for instability, not just for the sake of it...
If you find that 3.3v works, and then you up your speed or tighten your timings and THEN if you have instability you add a little voltage, you might find that 3.5v works for you...
My FX-55 is unstable at 1.85vcore...but rock stable at 1.73vcore, both at 3.2ghz...I'm not gonna complain about that lol but if I can get some better cooling that'll let me up the clocks a bit more, I may need that extra voltage to stabilize it, and may find that it ISN'T unstable at those higher volts when the speed is actually using it...
You see what I'm saying?
Gray
yep, i know what u mean.
but because my mem is fine at 260/3.3 i was really hoping that it would do 270 at 3.5-3.6v so i could run it 1:1
and i thought since ocz gives a lifetime warranty for 3.5v they expect all of their VX sticks to like that much volts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_KHAN
hey have you tried the new 510-2 bios for ultra-d mate?
my max vx overclock went from 264 to 268 so you might get those few MHz you need. ;)
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_KHAN
If they'll do that at 3.3, you might just get that with the extra volts...
How long have you been using them? After a while of burning in, they should stabilize at higher speeds I would think...
I had just found a setting for 270mhz that was working before I had some issues, so your will probably do that speed for you with a little playing, and possibly with some bios changes...
Mine is on NF3 Neo2, and your volts from the DFI(if that's what you're using?) might be more predictable that my booster...
Gray