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Tech Dav 11-03-2009 05:12 PM

First USB 3.0 card on sale
 
http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/...etc_usb30.html
Next-generation USB standard "USB 3.0" has finally started supporting counter sales of the interface card. The sale was confirmed, TFTEC JAPAN Brand / PCI Express x1 connection "S19903", and a price is 4,880 yen (see "new products this week found" that the reference).
USB 3.0 is the current USB 2.0 and 10 times more than the 5Gbps (Super-Speed) specification of transfer speeds. 5Gbps transfer speed as well as traditional 480Mbps (High-Speed) or 12Mbps (Full-Speed) has also supported, USB 2.0/1.1 compatible with.

4880Y=54$

http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/...age/kusb36.jpg
http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/...age/kusb35.jpg
http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/...age/kusb33.jpg

Luka_Aveiro 11-03-2009 05:55 PM

How does it fare compared to a native solution? 10, 15% less performance?

Frag Maniac 11-03-2009 06:00 PM

I'm skeptical about USB 3 or SATA III daughter cards. Asrock has a MB that supposedly has SATA III support via a controller card, but nowhere in the manual is there any mention of SATA III. Personally I'd rather have native support built into the MB, even if it's just one or two ports. All the better if it has USB 3.0 AND SATA III built in. As far as I can tell, the ASUS P6X58 Premium will have USB 3.0, SATA III AND 16x, 16x capability. This is a board with a very forward thinking design.

http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?99256

saaya 11-03-2009 06:43 PM

a bit pricey but ok...
needs a pciE 2.0 slot though so on p55 boards it'll either reduce vga lanes to 8x or itll run notably slower in a pciE 1.1 slot...
even in a 1.1 slot itll be way faster than usb 2.0 though, so its not all that bad :D

Gnarkill9800 11-03-2009 06:47 PM

Very cool, but I am still waiting for my fiber. The only way to go. wires are ancient.

saaya 11-03-2009 06:57 PM

well, usb3 was supposed to support fibre optic cables... but they removed that i heard :(

the real question for me is, why was there nothing new after usb2 for so many years, and now usb3 is arriving sloooooowly...

Linus@ncix 11-03-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya (Post 4094220)
well, usb3 was supposed to support fibre optic cables... but they removed that i heard :(

the real question for me is, why was there nothing new after usb2 for so many years, and now usb3 is arriving sloooooowly...

Because it's not really necessary. There's no reason to push it forward.

No company is sitting there going "if only we had USB 3.0 I would be able to market my world-changing product"

Same goes for SATA 6.0Gb/s, but that is about to change with the next generation of SSDs. For now it still doesn't really matter though.

Gnarkill9800 11-03-2009 07:24 PM

no, the next step in computer will be optical computers. maybe in my lifetime quantum computers. other then that i could careless about any other advancements. unless amd is doing something off the wall again.

Frag Maniac 11-03-2009 07:26 PM

IMO it makes sense to have an interface that can accommodate them before producing SATA III drives and USB 3.0 flash drives, so I don't see it as not necessary. Of course it's necessary if you want storage tech to evolve. There's already places selling the Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB SATA III HDD.

saaya 11-03-2009 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus@ncix (Post 4094230)
Because it's not really necessary. There's no reason to push it forward.

No company is sitting there going "if only we had USB 3.0 I would be able to market my world-changing product"

Same goes for SATA 6.0Gb/s, but that is about to change with the next generation of SSDs. For now it still doesn't really matter though.

you dont wait for things to become a bottleneck to improve them... you usually improve them before they start to limit you... usb2 is already a limiting factor, why do you think there are eSATA usb sticks? why are there eSATA external hdds and NAS solutions? bcause usb2 just doesnt cut it...

following your way of thinking, ati shouldnt have launched dx11 cards...
and there shouldnt be any PSUs above 500W either cause thats good enough for 90% of the market.... and 3x2gb memory kits? what for? ddr3 2000 memory shouldnt exist according to your argumentation either...

slim142 11-03-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya (Post 4094220)
well, usb3 was supposed to support fibre optic cables... but they removed that i heard :(

the real question for me is, why was there nothing new after usb2 for so many years, and now usb3 is arriving sloooooowly...

This +1

Same thing with Hard Drives...

Sh1tyMcGee 11-03-2009 08:24 PM

ill just wait till Intel releases a new chipset that supports sata3 and usb3. Nothing needs it anyway now.

Katanai 11-04-2009 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee (Post 4094296)
ill just wait till Intel releases a new chipset that supports sata3 and usb3. Nothing needs it anyway now.

Yeah but if something comes out that needs it, and you but it, you have cards like these. I see nothing wrong with that...

dan7777 11-04-2009 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee (Post 4094296)
ill just wait till Intel releases a new chipset that supports sata3 and usb3. Nothing needs it anyway now.

we always need new tech you should never say we don"t need it thats just plain silly! where are we?arn"t we in the Xtreme forums lol :up:

saaya 11-04-2009 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katanai (Post 4094631)
Yeah but if something comes out that needs it, and you but it, you have cards like these. I see nothing wrong with that...

if theres no infra structure, most companies wont release products for a new standard...

when it comes to standards like usb, you have to pave the way to make it successful... imagine how many blue ray movies wed have today if the ps3 wouldnt have been equipped with a player?


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