AMD Athlon64 4200+ TEST First Look

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03-06-2005, 03:47 PM
Gitsum

So are we going to see E-core FX-55 this month or not?
03-06-2005, 04:52 PM
isp

Thanks for the heads up look... :cool:

I think 32" sounds pretty good for a bone stock cpu/mem :D... this should be spot on with fx55 performance then shouldn't it?
03-06-2005, 07:30 PM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

It doesnt.

A: Its intel.
B: AMD will be using dualcore.

steven, he knows that! hes the author of CBID ;)
he was referring to the HT related instructions in SSE3 wich have been speculated to get adopted by amd to regulate/control the two physical cores like intel controls the two virtual cores in ht with them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gitsum

So are we going to see E-core FX-55 this month or not?

if you wait a week you should know :D
SAE just got a confirmation that the fx55 he ordered in a german shop finally arrived and was sent out to him, i hope its an e3 core, very likely though as i dont think that shop ordered old 130nm stocks from somewhere.
03-06-2005, 07:40 PM
Chr0n1c

Well since there have been ppl getting like 0507 130nm FX-55's I'd say the chance of getting a 90nm now are rather slim.
03-06-2005, 10:52 PM
computersmsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

steven, he knows that! hes the author of CBID ;)
he was referring to the HT related instructions in SSE3 wich have been speculated to get adopted by amd to regulate/control the two physical cores like intel controls the two virtual cores in ht with them.

if you wait a week you should know :D
SAE just got a confirmation that the fx55 he ordered in a german shop finally arrived and was sent out to him, i hope its an e3 core, very likely though as i dont think that shop ordered old 130nm stocks from somewhere.

FX-55 = 130nm
90nm = FX-57 = 90nm E0
03-07-2005, 01:15 AM
sxs112

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/4638/030316434ns.jpg
CPU Picture
03-07-2005, 01:41 AM
STEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

steven, he knows that! hes the author of CBID ;)

Oh, woops :P

Quote:

he was referring to the HT related instructions in SSE3 wich have been speculated to get adopted by amd to regulate/control the two physical cores like intel controls the two virtual cores in ht with them.

Thats funny.. donnie and saratoga couldnt stop telling me that doing something similar (ie: the exact same, in hardware) is wrong..

Quote:

if you wait a week you should know :D
SAE just got a confirmation that the fx55 he ordered in a german shop finally arrived and was sent out to him, i hope its an e3 core, very likely though as i dont think that shop ordered old 130nm stocks from somewhere.

That'd be nice ;)
03-07-2005, 07:41 AM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by sxs112

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/4638/030316434ns.jpg
CPU Picture

if that the heatspreader?
looks a lot different :stick:
03-07-2005, 08:16 AM
sxs112

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

if that the heatspreader?
looks a lot different :stick:

http://img188.exs.cx/img188/9203/030316464ig.jpg
http://img188.exs.cx/img188/1631/030316459bj.jpg
03-07-2005, 08:29 AM
ozzimark

nifty. i like the new box. :toast:
03-07-2005, 08:58 AM
krille

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/4638/030316434ns.jpg

i think you need to remove the dust there, you should be more careful with your CPUs...
03-07-2005, 09:02 AM
Ackbar

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Originally Posted by sxs112

http://img188.exs.cx/img188/9203/030316464ig.jpg
http://img188.exs.cx/img188/1631/030316459bj.jpg

Excuse me... I need to go change... umm, seems like a release is imminent just a matter of how many weeks.
03-07-2005, 09:09 AM
Revv23

thats just awesome, thanks very much sxs, are those both 4200+'s?
03-07-2005, 09:19 AM
Sentential

Looks great. Any overclocking results yet?
03-07-2005, 01:24 PM
terrace215

Quote:

Originally Posted by c627627

Hello sxs112,

It does not make any marketing sense whatsoever for a 4200+ San Diego to have been produced in the first batch of Venice & San Diego CPUs that are now in the first weeks of production.

4200+ cannot coexist with FX-55, it can only do so with FX-57,
just like 2.4 GHz 4000+ 939 CH and 2.6 GHz Fx-55 939 CH are coexisting.

4200+ San Diego is (well, was earlier this year) a Q4 2005 product with limited availability toward the end of Q3 2005.

That's Fall 2005. Even if it's pushed up, we're just out of February 2005, way too early for any 4200+ San Diego.

Even if you have an Engineering sample, it may may not be as indicative as when multiple sources start reporting OC results from first real batches of them...

First Venice/San Diego CPUs should be here either later this month or early April 2005 which is not bad considering that earlier this year we expected them toward the end of Q2 2005 in limited quantities.

No, the 4200+ is not a Q4 product. It was shown on older roadmaps as an early Q3 product. Moved forward perhaps due to success with Rev E 90nm parts.
03-07-2005, 02:26 PM
GRAFiZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

nifty. i like the new box. :toast:

Nah... that's the packaging AMD gives out to employee's and testers for their "beta" chips.

I used to know a guy who'd get a trunk load from of them from AMD and give them out to people as kind of a promotion.

That was way back when though... it appears the package them the same though.
03-07-2005, 03:02 PM
Orker

Will this cpu have a newer, improved revision of the memory controller? that is better then whats with the winnies?
03-07-2005, 03:16 PM
Dumo

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Heres fx57 which will be available from this Canadian retailer next week (only 6 pcs.) Price still TBD...
03-07-2005, 03:17 PM
Orthogonal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orker

Will this cpu have a newer, improved revision of the memory controller? that is better then whats with the winnies?

That is of course, what we are all hoping for. I'm fairly certain they will, but you never know. :toast:

off-topic, what's with 400+ veiwers on this board, I've never seen it that high.
03-07-2005, 03:32 PM
ozzimark

other sites are probably linking to this thread.. i know there's one on the forums at [H], but that probably accounts for like 2 of those people :stick:

either way, i'm getting really anxious to see overclocking results of this and the turion
03-07-2005, 03:57 PM
quicksilverXP

How much do you think the FX57 will retail for? Or will it retail around 899 and the price of 55s will drop? I'm anxious to buy, but not anxious to pay well above 1k for it...
03-07-2005, 04:03 PM
Orthogonal

Quote:

Originally Posted by quicksilverXP

How much do you think the FX57 will retail for? Or will it retail around 899 and the price of 55s will drop? I'm anxious to buy, but not anxious to pay well above 1k for it...

I'm willing to bet it will play out like when the FX-55 came out. The FX-55 will be rebadged the 4200+, but with locked multi, and the FX-57 will be the lone FX chip in production. (This is assuming the FX-55 comes out in 90nm form before the FX-57 release, I doubt the 4200+ will be clawhammer)
03-07-2005, 04:39 PM
terrace215

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Heres fx57 which will be available from this Canadian retailer next week (only 6 pcs.) Price still TBD...

That retailer has the "FSB" (i.e. Hypertransport) speed wrong. FX parts have been 1GHz since 939 launched, and the FX-57 will be no exception.
03-07-2005, 06:23 PM
Ackbar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orthogonal

That is of course, what we are all hoping for. I'm fairly certain they will, but you never know. :toast:

off-topic, what's with 400+ veiwers on this board, I've never seen it that high.

We got linked by theINQ: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21646

Sorry, I couldn't help making this thread recursive... enjoy reading an article that is a summary of this thread!
03-07-2005, 07:49 PM
saaya

there are also 90nm fx55 chips afaik, am i wrong? :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by computersmsa

FX-55 = 130nm
90nm = FX-57 = 90nm E0

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