[Vapor] IFX-14 vs. Ultra-120 eXtreme (and others!)

Got my IFX-14 in earlier today and have been playing pretty much all day, and would like to share some pics and results :)

I only have pics now, wanna get at least a full set of data before I throw it up in a graph :p:

So here's some pics:

The boxes
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/1839/boxespa5.jpg

First opening:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4773/insidewx9.jpg

The HSFs :D:
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/3641/hsfsni3.jpg

Take them out, take them out of the plastic bags, and this is what you get (not what I wanted to see....:():
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9...heycamevr3.jpg

Well, it was easy to straighten out:
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3...ghtenedqz3.jpg
(wasn't perfect, but a 38mm fan fits well and fairly snuggly inside, which is satisfactory)

Fin comparison, IFX vs. Ultra-120 eX vs. backside cooler:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5302/finsallcc3.jpg

The backside cooler (notice the clear plastic strip for electrical insulation :)):
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5...idefullnp0.jpg

What's included with the Ultra-120 eX:
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/2...ncludedkq5.jpg

What's included with the IFX-14:
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6...ncludedni3.jpg

Next post will have results :D

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http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2...cture11lz6.png

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hi vapor,

thanks for your pics, waiting after your result.

If you can put your hand on a sonic tower give it a shot, my test showed me a better temp by 1°C to 2°c with the sonic ( 3 x120 @ 650 rpm vs 2 x 120 @ 650 rpm) against the U120e but it was on A64 only .

pics finally :up:

sucks the sink arrived so bent :(

PS what's up with the nasty scratch on one of the metal thing in the last pic??

nice! can't wait...

How about a Tuniq Tower in the comparo as well?

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]PS what's up with the nasty scratch on one of the metal thing in the last pic??

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Not a scratch...seems to be some sort of adhesive (residue).

The HSFs being tested are the IFX-14 (with and w/o backside cooler), Ultra-120 eX, Scythe Infinity, TTBT, and QX6700 stock cooler.

CPUs being tested are:
1) QX6700 @ 3.2GHz, 1.39V loaded (high load....clocks are low because with 800RPM fans, none of these coolers can clock too high)
2) E6700ES @ 3.4GHz, 1.5V loaded (medium load)
3) E6700ES @ 2.66GHz, 1.27V loaded (low load)

Fans....well, lots and lots of fan configs will be tested :p:

THATS SICK! i think i'll wait for the IFX-14 Xtreme to come out befor i upgrade, i see that there is room for another 2 heatpipes :D

would you happen to have a pic showing the bottom of the main heatsink base(the underside that makes contact with the cpu)?

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would you happen to have a pic showing the bottom of the main heatsink base(the underside that makes contact with the cpu)?

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I'm sorry, I do not. It was better quality than the Ultra-120's base, very shiny and no striations.

Initial results posted.

Note that 'with back' results are on a remount where I added some mastic tape to the mounting bracket (a la penny-mod for the Ultra-120 eX). I also have a 100mm fan on the backside sink, removing it raises temps by 1C (if that).

Wow, interesting. Guess I'll wait for them to come out with an IFX Extreme :)

Thanks for the great comparison

*edit* Do you have a Ultra 120 (non-Extreme) that you could test against it? It would be interesting to see if it's the extra two heatpipes that are making the difference.

Nope, just the eXtreme. I would offer to cut the heatpipes, but that'd kinda ruin a few things, and I like it anyway :p:

Thanks a lot for the review Vapor, always appreciate your work.

Nice job Vapor,

From the point of the Panaflo on, those temps look real good for both coolers.

I do have a question(s) on what your using to load the cpu's...Prime? Orthos? and how long running at load to achieve those temps?

If you had plans to post that info, then disregard this :)

Thanks

Dual ORTHOS is used (via manual affinity setting and two separate .exe's) for loading. At 3.2GHz with slow RAM on the quad, I've found that between the 4:40 to 5:10 time marks is a very, very hot, very temp-stable period. At 5:10 (or so), Test 2 on all four cores concludes and temps wobble (at a much lower temp) for the next 15min. At the 5min mark I read what Coretemp .94 says and average all four cores. No sense waiting for 20+min every single config to get a slightly hotter temp when this one is so hot and so consistent.

The "IFX-14, no back w/ the S-Flex D" had two cores at 96C at that point. I don't think the Infinity or the TTBT will be able to remain stable through that test, lol.

Thanks for the review Vapor.

Looks like Ultra 120 Extreme is better and cheaper than IFX-14.

Wow 96c :shocked:

I'm really impressed from what both are yielding for results. I'm coming a Zalman CNPS 9700 where Prime*cpu stress no ram* goes to 71c and idle averages 39-42c.

So for me, those temps look incredible, at least from my standpoint. The backplate actually appears to be making a fair difference.

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Wow 96c :shocked:

I'm really impressed from what both are yielding for results. I'm coming a Zalman CNPS 9700 where Prime*cpu stress no ram* goes to 71c and idle averages 39-42c.

So for me, those temps look incredible, at least from my standpoint.

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These are deltas over ambient....so add ~23C to each one for averaged core temps at the 5min mark.

Doing the Infinity tests right now (so much easier to mount and mount fans....lol). Only done S-Flex D and E so far, but it's holding its own against the IFX-14 :eek: (D really beat the IFX-14, E was a minute loss....higher CFM should pull the IFX-14 ahead even further)

I really want to see others' results with their IFX-14. I'm hoping/fearing that mine is a dud.

(btw, all HSFs and tests are done with stock base and stock mounting unless otherwise stated)

well, its good to see that the small motherboard sink works! roughly 5c improvment! great! Maybe if paired with the ultra 120 extreme, even better results would come around.

still, a disappointment....

no offense...but what the hell!!!! Either you did something wrong, or thermalright is smokin something...

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well, its good to see that the small motherboard sink works! roughly 5c improvment! great! Maybe if paired with the ultra 120 extreme, even better results would come around.

still, a disappointment....

no offense...but what the hell!!!! Either you did something wrong, or thermalright is smokin something...

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Post #10: "Note that 'with back' results are on a remount where I added some mastic tape to the mounting bracket (a la penny-mod for the Ultra-120 eX). I also have a 100mm fan on the backside sink, removing it raises temps by 1C (if that)."

i.e., 'with back' results have a modded mount.

I'm also disappointed :(

do you have some 140mm fans to test with IFX-14?

Correct me if I'm wrong,*want to make sure I'm understanding correctly* but I'm looking at the same temps with the IFX-14 (with the backplate on)

If that's the case, I may not break the seal on mine when it arrives tomorrow.

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do you have some 140mm fans to test with IFX-14?

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Yes....results won't be pretty though, two have zero-HSF/radiator ability and the other spins at all of 1050RPM :rolleyes: :(

I'm thinking of ways to give a little pep to this IFX-14, and I'm drawing blanks :( If two San Aces can't get good temps out of it, then damn.

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Originally Posted by Flinch

Correct me if I'm wrong,*want to make sure I'm understanding correctly* but I'm looking at the same temps with the IFX-14 (with the backplate on)

If that's the case, I may not break the seal on mine when it arrives tomorrow.

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I'm not sure if I follow?

I think its the mounting.... its connected by only two screws...while the lighter ultra 120 x is mounted via four screws. Makes sense....NOT :down:

what is it with these monster sinks & crappy mounting, must be a trend or something..

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Originally Posted by enz660

I think its the mounting.... its connected by only two screws...while the lighter ultra 120 x is mounted via four screws. Makes sense....NOT :down:

what is it with these monster sinks & crappy mounting, must be a trend or something..

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I'm testing horizontally....fwiw.

I do think the mounting system is a little weird, and not super-strong, but definitely 'good enough' to hold it and have good contact. A simple layered-elec tape or mastic tape mod can always help though.

how did you mount the fan on IFX-14? sandwich or side?

I was referring to the temps I'm currently getting-vs-the temps you are showing with the IFX, if I'm understanding correctly, then there really is not that much of a difference when you add the extra 23c on....it's still looking like it's just under 70c for the IFX.

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how did you mount the fan on IFX-14? sandwich or side?

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Sandwich. Based on the dual-fan results (one the side blowing into the sandwich), I don't think it'll help much to put it on the outside.

Flinch...ahhh, I see what you're saying. I'm not sure if I would directly compare temps tbh....well, no reason not to I guess, but what settings you run will greatly influence your temps, and having the exact settings as me is kinda weird (too high of a voltage for the MHz, IMO....but it's good at making heat and keeping stability at ludicrous temps, so I do it :p: ).

Now we 're on the same page :D I only run at 3.0 w/1.22v. I'll tear it open and give it a go.

If our chips were equal in W per Mhz per volt, my chip would be putting out 80% more heat than yours at these settings ;)

Also, just thoroughly inspected the IFX-14's base after dismount....the nickel plating is already 'broken' along the edges and I can see copper. I had PLENTY of mounting pressure ;)

Also, this Delta GHB is freaking loud....glad the test just ended. :zombie:

So Vapor, came away generally unimpressed by the hype of the "beast" IFX-14?

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So Vapor, came away generally unimpressed by the hype of the "beast" IFX-14?

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maybe for him, im sure there will be many many more reviews to come...

personally, i find the results hard to believe considering the freakish size & design of the IFX...

i mean, this thing is pretty much designed like two Enzo 120's slapped together

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So Vapor, came away generally unimpressed by the hype of the "beast" IFX-14?

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On a quad core, yup.

Needs too much fannage to do well, and even then it's pretty far behind the Ultra-120 eX.

Dual cores...no clue yet.

Also, it's the sexiest looking HSF ever....if I were a man who liked case windows, I'd use it. enz660 is right...the design is beastly too, why it's doing so poorly is somewhat mysterious.

Also, I want to see others' results....

Graph updated with Scythe Infinity results.

Gonna figure out my TTBT situation later, it's currently in a system where I can't have any downtime, lol :(

Great testing Vapor, but I'm sure disappointed in the IFX-14. Hopefully it was from the bending of the heatpipes somehow and they do good in future testing/other reviews.

vapor, how much of nicks money would it take for you to come work for me ;-)

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vapor, how much of nicks money would it take for you to come work for me ;-)

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More than I have, since I have $1 atm (well, more than that but it's getting spent friday!)

you know, seeing how that IFX-14 came outta the box raises alot of questions

i expect the Ultra 120 Extreme to beat IFX-14, not by this large margin

thx for sharing :)

I have an Ultra eXtreme arriving in a day or two.

For the sake of saving me 20 minutes of digging through charts and pages, would you be kind enough to answer the following question, Vapor?

Which fan is the quietest (relative term, I know...lol) between these 4 you have listed:

• Sharkoon 2000
• Panaflo M1
• Sanyo Denki
• Delta GHB

The Ultra 120e's temps look damn good with those 4 fans.
If I were going to purchase one, could you make a recommendation please?
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What was room temp for your experiments and how did you hold it constant? I have found that room temp has a huge affect on CPU temps so some of those close results might be misleading if it was a few degrees hotter in one test vs. the other.

Vapor

So you're saying with a B3 stepping Quad core at 3.2GHz and 1.39V load Vcore, and maxing all cores ala Prime95 but instead using Orthos, the averaged temp core as read by CoreTemp 0.94/0.95 is around 85-95C? This is what appears to be the case if one takes the base temp you report of 47-65C and add the 23C ambient temp.

I have a question, did you tough the heatpipes and base during testing to see if they're warm or hot? Perhaps they're not transferring heat well. Just a thought but perhaps they didn't fit them with liquid?

I say we should be seeing temps about 5C less than the TR 120 Extreme or better.

thanks for sharing ur results Vapor, is it possible to add an ultra-x to ur tests

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I have an Ultra eXtreme arriving in a day or two.

For the sake of saving me 20 minutes of digging through charts and pages, would you be kind enough to answer the following question, Vapor?

Which fan is the quietest (relative term, I know...lol) between these 4 you have listed:

• Sharkoon 2000
• Panaflo M1
• Sanyo Denki
• Delta GHB

The Ultra 120e's temps look damn good with those 4 fans.
If I were going to purchase one, could you make a recommendation please?
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Sharkoon Silent Eagle 2000. Really, any 2000RPM fan will get around the same cooling as past 1800RPM the U120eX scales much slower. It is pretty quiet for a 2000RPM fan though.

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What was room temp for your experiments and how did you hold it constant? I have found that room temp has a huge affect on CPU temps so some of those close results might be misleading if it was a few degrees hotter in one test vs. the other.

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Ambient hovered between 22.8 and 23.1C for most of the day. Though the earliest tests had ambient as high as 24.9C. I did retest the Ultra-120eX with the 800RPM fan after ambient dropped and got a dT within .1C. A/C was on and ambient temps were measured with a DT200.

To be honest, in open-air testing, I have not noticed the same ambient vs. CPU temp trends you show in that thread (and I've done a lot of CPU-temp tests in the past year). I've noticed that higher ambients give SLIGHTLY higher dT (like .8C-1C for a 10C increase in ambient, in two separate tests, two different HSFs), which is probably due to a smaller fin to air dT, reducing radiator efficiency. In-case testing I've anecdotally noticed slightly more of this effect, but 'ambient' was room temp, not case temp (I have a feeling case temp goes up by a little extra, and then CPU temp gets an even higher ambient because of it).

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Vapor

So you're saying with a B3 stepping Quad core at 3.2GHz and 1.39V load Vcore, and maxing all cores ala Prime95 but instead using Orthos, the averaged temp core as read by CoreTemp 0.94/0.95 is around 85-95C? This is what appears to be the case if one takes the base temp you report of 47-65C and add the 23C ambient temp.

I have a question, did you tough the heatpipes and base during testing to see if they're warm or hot? Perhaps they're not transferring heat well. Just a thought but perhaps they didn't fit them with liquid?

I say we should be seeing temps about 5C less than the TR 120 Extreme or better.

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Yes, the whole HSF was actually very hot to the touch; heatpipes and fins. What little air was coming off of it was also hot. As airflow increased, the HSF cooled down accordingly (by 1600RPM, it was tolerable).

An 800RPM fan is really not a lot of airflow for HSFs like these. The high temps shouldn't be a surprise at all, IMO. At one point, getting to see 96C on two cores was a bit of a shock, but overall, averaged temps above 90C are there and are reasonable.

I expected better temps than the Ultra-120 eX based on the design....but oh well.

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thanks for sharing ur results Vapor, is it possible to add an ultra-x to ur tests

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Not really...I have no use for another HSF, so no reason to buy one.

TR need to put some packing material or foam between the heatpiped fins, if they don't do this and other reviews show high airflow (therefore noise) is needed for better results over the TRU120E, I think I won't bother at all. (not that I don't trust you Vapor ;))

(before anyone asks, my own TRU120E can be used in other comps in my house :))

Should be interesting put the backside Heatsink with the 120 Xt to see better temps.Can you test this? :)

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Should be interesting put the backside Heatsink with the 120 Xt to see better temps.Can you test this? :)

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++1 :D

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Should be interesting put the backside Heatsink with the 120 Xt to see better temps.Can you test this? :)

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I'm pretty sure as Vapor will no doubt soon confirm that the backside bracket on the 120 Extreme won't allow installing the IFX-14 backside cooler.

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I'm pretty sure as Vapor will no doubt soon confirm that the backside bracket on the 120 Extreme won't allow installing the IFX-14 backside cooler.

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improvise/mod... ppl take dremels to their cases etc around here all the time, among other crazy things. its a small obstacle, it can b moved! :D

they didn't pack the foam between your ifx-14 for some reason. you can view my friend's http://forums.vr-zone.com/showpost.p...8&postcount=91
you can see it in the package that it isn't bent at all with the foam piece there.

Thanks a ton for this info Vapor. I know it may not have a lot to do with results per say, but do you have any pics of these heatsinks installed in your system? I am curious to see clearance issues around heatpiped board as well as clearance over dimm sockets etc.

very strange
wonder if it getting bent messed it up?

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Thanks a ton for this info Vapor. I know it may not have a lot to do with results per say, but do you have any pics of these heatsinks installed in your system? I am curious to see clearance issues around heatpiped board as well as clearance over dimm sockets etc.

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The HSF itself should have little clearance issues....but mounting system might hit stuff like that though. I'll try to take pics tonight.

Backside cooler on the U-120eX is possible. Just have to use the IFX-14's backplate. However, I REALLLLLY think most of the 4C improvement is from the modded mount, not from the backside cooler. Taking the fan off of that raised temps .5C to 1C, if that. It never felt warm. I think the thermal pad might have something to do with it (thick, doesn't look like a good TIM).

Could you take pics of your modded mount then?

I ordered a IFX-14 as well yesterday, hope I shouldn't get worried and feel bad that I didnt take the 120 eXtreme instead :D

thanks for the reviews vapor...

im quite disapointed and i expected the ifx to perform alot better.

I too just recieved my IFX today and am dissapointed by it. On my quad my 120extreme is beating IFX by 7-10c, loaded and idle. And that is with a San Ace fan in the middle of the cooler and two S-flex SFF21F's on each side. My 120 extreme only has the two S-Flex's on it. Mine did not come bent in like vapor's and had a piece of foam between the two sets of fins. But note that because of my case I cannot use the backside cooler and the IFX has to be aimed vertically because the mounting hardware interferes with the mosfet cooler on my 680i board.

But it seems that the mounting hardware is interchangable. Later I will try using the IFX mounting hardware on my 120 extreme and see what happens.

Thanks for sharing jz9110. I am sure we all look forward to your results with the interchangeable mounting hardware.

soo looks like its gonna be an ultra 120 extreme + 2 fans & backside cooler...
hmmm

looks that way to me as well so far. Two down with negative results.

I'll get to some testing soon. I just got my IP35 pro, so I'm still working on a decent overclock to generate heat.


But hey, how about some pics to crack some smiles!



3 YL 140mms anyone?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...X14YLarama.jpg






How about a Delta-rama!?!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...4deltarama.jpg

yo man, u got pics of it in your rig? the deltarama would look awsome!

Ok, I got some wierd results. I used the IFX mounting system on my Ultra120 Extreme and my temps are about the same as my IFX's temps. Maybe its just the mounting in the IFX that makes it such a poor performer. Now off to try the IFX with the Ultra 120 Extreme's mounting bracket. I am also pretty sure that the LGA775 bolt through kit will work on the IFX-14, but I do not own one so I can't test that.

BTW I use the penny mod on the 120 Extreme's mounting system and added some tape to the IFX's mounting system.

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Sharkoon Silent Eagle 2000. Really, any 2000RPM fan will get around the same cooling as past 1800RPM the U120eX scales much slower. It is pretty quiet for a 2000RPM fan though.

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Awesome, thanks for the quick reply, but that only leads me to another question.

I thought the preferred method was to use the 120mm fans with the Ultra 120 sized heatsinks.
The 120mm version of the Sharkoon only spins at 1,000 rpms.
The Sharkoon 2000 is the 80mm version that spins at 2000 rpms. (Obviously)

Since it is smaller, the 80mm is listed at 22.7CFM....where the 120mm pushes 38.1CFM, per their individual specs.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

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How about a Delta-rama!?!

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I'd lose that one in the center as it's not going to do anything at all surly with them 2 monster blowing and sucking!

I think if it was cover over as well, canopie, boxed in it would be even more powerfull!

I too thought what thats not many heatpipes. More little ones would of been better!

Def. dissapointing reuslts so far

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Ok, I got some wierd results. I used the IFX mounting system on my Ultra120 Extreme and my temps are about the same as my IFX's temps. Maybe its just the mounting in the IFX that makes it such a poor performer. Now off to try the IFX with the Ultra 120 Extreme's mounting bracket. I am also pretty sure that the LGA775 bolt through kit will work on the IFX-14, but I do not own one so I can't test that.

BTW I use the penny mod on the 120 Extreme's mounting system and added some tape to the IFX's mounting system.

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Very interesting, please keep us posted.

Navig: My ears are hurting just looking at that delta-rama :ROTF:

The mounting problems with recent Thermalrights is annoying !

But keep us updated with the Thermalright Ultra-120X's mount on the IFX..

Infortunately the mounting screws for the Ultra 120 Extreme hit the IFX's heatpipes, so unless u get shorter screws the IFX wont mount using the 120 Extreme's mounting hardware.

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Infortunately the mounting screws for the Ultra 120 Extreme hit the IFX's heatpipes, so unless u get shorter screws the IFX wont mount using the 120 Extreme's mounting hardware.

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get shorter screws & use the ifx's backplate so you can also use the motherboard heatsink thing...

please? :)

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Awesome, thanks for the quick reply, but that only leads me to another question.

I thought the preferred method was to use the 120mm fans with the Ultra 120 sized heatsinks.
The 120mm version of the Sharkoon only spins at 1,000 rpms.
The Sharkoon 2000 is the 80mm version that spins at 2000 rpms. (Obviously)

Since it is smaller, the 80mm is listed at 22.7CFM....where the 120mm pushes 38.1CFM, per their individual specs.

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There are both 1000RPM and 2000RPM variants of the 120mm fan, I have both here.

jz9110....interesting that yours is performing identically to mine but didn't have the bent heatpipes. Things are not looking good for the IFX-14.

Navig...I'll be interested to see your Delta-rama testing, but I still don't think it will result in an advantage over the Ultra-120 eX :(

omg ur pc is going to fly xD

anyone tried the penny mod on the IFX?

Whoops vapor, didn't mean to thread crap on your thread--I thought this was the other IFX14 thread.

The delta-rama is really probably just a joke. I suppose if I find adding bigger fans keeps on scaling up in performance, I might make it there, but I doubt it.

My review is going to be a bit in time coming. I just switched to the IP35 pro today also, so I'm working up my overclock to generate some heat. In case anyone is interested, the IFX14 fits fine in either 90 degree configuration. I'm getting about the same load temps with my lapped Ultra + Delta medium flow vs my IFX14 with a 14cm Yate Loon.

I think the whole problem w/ the IFX14 is the mounting hardware. Even when I tighten the 2 little mounting brackets as hard as I can, I can still move them quite easily. I don't know how thermalright came up with such a stupid mounting solution. Plus, my base is like the Grand Canyon. I'll lap it tomorrow.

I believe that w/ some pressure this cooler will shine.

yeah well thermalright makes great coolers just terrible mountings from all i read.

Something sure seems amiss, from the sheer size of the thing you'd think it would perform better than this.

Guess I'm glad I ended up with water instead of waiting on the IFX or the U120ex. Both seem to have their problems. Thermalright seems to have dropped the ball recently :(

So how many reviews do we have? I know more people ordered this thing than 3 or 4 results, POST YOUR TEMPS!!!!!! :D

oh yeah, i bet my infinity would smoke em all :D

I think that if all you do is peruse forums, you get a very exaggerated picture of things. Let's face it, people like to complain and moan on forums (or the alternative fanboyism). For example, yes you can still twist the Ultra120x and the IFX-14. Personally testing horizontal and vertical, and even moving between the 2, I've never noticed a performance difference. On the other hand, I often don't notice much about mounting mechanisms because I automatically alter things as I see fit (I have a whole drawer full of modified back plates).


Understand, we are sitting here comparing nitpick details about 2 heatsinks (120X vs IFX-14) that are really head and shoulders above heatsinks just 1 year old. Unquestionably, these new heatsinks raise the bar. My double-fan lapped Tuniq Tower is now relegated to a corner folding rig. I'm thinking about how I can mount my Big Typhoon to a video card. When folks say "disappointed" it means there might have been some exaggerated hype that the IFX would thrash the Ultra120X. Me I'd suggest that just matching the incredible performance of the Ultra120x with a little bit quiter fan is no small feat.


All things aside, just consider this:

Currently I am smp folding with an ambient of 90F on my e6600 @ 9*350, and I am running a 14mm fan at 1000rpms, and my load temp is 47c.

very disappointed so far
I wait 3 months for this thing to come out and it can't even tie the ultra extreme?
I'm about ready to send mine back and order the 120

I'm wondering if the IFX-14 delayed debute was due to it not surpassing the TR UltraEx in their inshop testings and that they tried to remedy it before the AMD/Intel CPU price reductions in July. Meaning they released it prematurely(although delayed)to catch the wave of new buyers with new CPU's in hand thinking this would be the lastest and greatest TR heatsink? Timing and Marketing goes hand in hand as for sales.

That's it. I think i'm changing my order to 120 eX instead of IFX-14 :(

Navig--very interesting. It seems that with lower loads, the IFX-14 can keep up and even surpass the Ultra-120 eX. Hopefully I can get to the TTBT and dual core testing tonight and tm :)

If it can, this is good news for me. My Ultra-120eX can go on my quad and my IFX-14 can go on my E6700 :D No money lost :p:

so far my ultra 120 doesn't disappoint. It's unlapped and im using the chill factor thermal grease.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...9withtemps.jpg

What's the clip like on the IFX-14? Obviously it holds the IFX-14 down via two screws but does this prevent the cooler feeling loose or liable to twisting with little pressure?

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Originally Posted by Vapor

Navig--very interesting. It seems that with lower loads, the IFX-14 can keep up and even surpass the Ultra-120 eX. Hopefully I can get to the TTBT and dual core testing tonight and tm :)

If it can, this is good news for me. My Ultra-120eX can go on my quad and my IFX-14 can go on my E6700 :D No money lost :p:

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interesting
all I want is 3.6GHz from my E6600

Navig

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Understand, we are sitting here comparing nitpick details about 2 heatsinks (120X vs IFX-14) that are really head and shoulders above heatsinks just 1 year old. Unquestionably, these new heatsinks raise the bar. My double-fan lapped Tuniq Tower is now relegated to a corner folding rig. I'm thinking about how I can mount my Big Typhoon to a video card. When folks say "disappointed" it means there might have been some exaggerated hype that the IFX would thrash the Ultra120X. Me I'd suggest that just matching the incredible performance of the Ultra120x with a little bit quiter fan is no small feat.

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Thats true, but we wanted something more...

Seems U120E will still be the king

wooot nice review vap

2 b honest i didn't really think the ifx could do much better than the ultra 120 x cuz its already so good.

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Originally Posted by Vapor

There are both 1000RPM and 2000RPM variants of the 120mm fan, I have both here.

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I can't seem to find a seller that offers the 2000rpm version of the 120mm.

:(

wow, i waited 3 months for this cooler to replace my Bigtyphoon

seems that i may change and order the Ultra-120 EX

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Originally Posted by evoic

I can't seem to find a seller that offers the 2000rpm version of the 120mm.

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http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=20832

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Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

wow, i waited 3 months for this cooler to replace my Bigtyphoon

seems that i may change and order the Ultra-120 EX

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I have a Big Typhoon currently as well that I am looking to replace.

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

I have a Big Typhoon currently as well that I am looking to replace.

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I hope you don't have a quad core :lol:

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5006/picture10hv7.png

(also posted in post 2, but this is a new page, so easier to post here as well)

lol no, still on X2 for now but even on that I am getting quite high temps for the low voltage used.

The more I test the IFX, the more I think there's a big design issue. Airflow.

The fins are too dense, IMO. I can't feel much airflow at all through it, even with a 2000RPM fan. Trying to pull air through one and push through the other is an exercise in futility....

Also, the flame-fins don't help....they add turbulence for no gain. With fin density more like the Scythe Infinity's or the HR-01 and a fin structure like the Ultra-120's, this HSF could really be a stronger contender, IMO.

Hopefully there will be a revision down the road that addresses this.

I am curious why dual-fan testing has shown better results though.....:shrug:

BTW, dual core results will be ready soonish. Only tested the TTBT, Infinity and half-tested the IFX. The test is faster on a dual core though, and mounting was a lot faster for all of them.

Maybe you should notify thermalright about that? Just a thought. You'd think though that they'd pay attention to things like that but then who knows...

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Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Maybe you should notify thermalright about that? Just a thought. You'd think though that they'd pay attention to things like that but then who knows...

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Okay: vent mode on :p:

Problems with the design:

1) fin density is just overpowering for even the strongest fans. By forcing both a push and a pull through it, you force NEARLY all airflow to the very outer edges of the fan. The effect is worsened with low RPM fans. Even airflow is ideal.

2) 140mm fans have even worse pressure/cfm (and even pressure/noise) than 120mm fans. Hence why I haven't even bothered testing them (that and my 140mm fans are not in my good graces for other reasons).

3) Flame fins are not good for dispersing airflow evenly. The Ultra-120's arc design is VERY good at it, however. Flame fins just increase turbulence and allows only the highest pressured air through (the edges) and prevent migration (inward, most importantly).

4) There's other minor things that irk me a little, but these are the most important ones that, IMO, are seriously hindering what could otherwise be a very good HSF.

I might contact TR but I'm not sure if they would listen much.....never thought I'd say this about them, but "they already got my $80"

Hmmmm maybe try some 3 fin ultra high speed delta's? They have better pressure.

And the IFX-14 kinda wins the round!

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2...cture11lz6.png

Both the IFX-14 and Ultra-120eX have mastic-modded mounts (similar to penny mods, but used mastic tape instead of pennies.

Backside cooler was also used for the IFX-14.