AMD Athlon X2 3250e 22W TDP Processor

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12-28-2008, 05:36 PM
kenofstephen

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AMD Athlon X2 3250e 22W TDP Processor

Hello all,

Last week I got a new Athlon X2 model processor,

which is for OEM only and have a TDP of JUST 22W!

I tested it a bit and below are some pics for your reference.
12-28-2008, 05:49 PM
lism

Nice. Technically an 11Watts per core CPU. How is the overal performance? And how does it OC? lol. Any benchmarks? Is it passivly cooled?
12-28-2008, 06:42 PM
Morais

22W is nice, mostly for HTPC builds...but 1500MHz? :/
12-28-2008, 07:10 PM
chew*

I've been looking for this but apparently it was slated only to be sold to oem's not sold as oem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morais

22W is nice, mostly for HTPC builds...but 1500MHz? :/

it's meant to go head to head with atom, 1500 is all it needs
12-28-2008, 10:08 PM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morais

22W is nice, mostly for HTPC builds...but 1500MHz? :/

yup, right now I am testing the CPU with the best ITX board - MINIX 780G SP-128MB.

I am almost done and will upload more results soon, stay tuned! :cool:
12-28-2008, 11:46 PM
keyboard

revision G2 ?
i found most AMD G2 processor's can run 2,8 Ghz plus .

i think this processor can run 2 Ghz + .
12-28-2008, 11:53 PM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by keyboard

revision G2 ?
i found most AMD G2 processor's can run 2,8 Ghz plus .

i think this processor can run 2 Ghz + .

you're absolutely correct, stay tuned!
12-28-2008, 11:57 PM
kenofstephen

default vcore 300 HTT
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...core300HTT.jpg

default vcore oc
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ultvcoreoc.jpg

default vcore oc, more
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2GHzorthos.jpg

default vcore oc, more and more
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...1GHzorthos.jpg

I still have more to come up, stay tuned ~
12-28-2008, 11:58 PM
kenofstephen

2.3GHz done, still - default vcore

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...c23ghzlive.jpg

If you love my DIY case, please let me know :D
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...n/DSCF0984.jpg
12-29-2008, 12:03 AM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

I've been looking for this but apparently it was slated only to be sold to oem's not sold as oem.

it's meant to go head to head with atom, 1500 is all it needs

It should perform a lot better than ATOM with 1.5GHz. :D
12-29-2008, 12:06 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenofstephen

It should perform a lot better than ATOM with 1.5GHz. :D

yah I figured it would now they just need to make it available to the public, I wanted to build one with a 780G and if my math is right the platform will draw 50w max........Amd needs to release this to the public, or not bother competing with atom, I will not buy a prebuilt rig with this cpu.....I want to set it up for my needs, not what someone thinks my needs are. You have a killawatt there? Would be nice to know if my math is correct for 780G.
12-29-2008, 12:14 AM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

yah I figured it would now they just need to make it available to the public, I wanted to build one with a 780G and if my math is right the platform will draw 50w max........Amd needs to release this to the public, or not bother competing with atom, I will not buy a prebuilt rig with this cpu.....I want to set it up for my needs, not what someone thinks my needs are. You have a killawatt there? Would be nice to know if my math is correct for 780G.

I don't have the meter, but it should be <60W if I don't oc.
12-29-2008, 12:16 AM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

yah I figured it would now they just need to make it available to the public, I wanted to build one with a 780G and if my math is right the platform will draw 50w max........Amd needs to release this to the public, or not bother competing with atom, I will not buy a prebuilt rig with this cpu.....I want to set it up for my needs, not what someone thinks my needs are. You have a killawatt there? Would be nice to know if my math is correct for 780G.

I use this board:
http://www.jwele.com/UserFiles/jwele.com/1217225097.jpg
12-29-2008, 12:43 AM
spursindonesia

I'm still using an Athlon XP Barton core laptop, so any chance of upgrading to an AFFORDABLE dual core K8 @1.5 GHz laptop with decent on board graphic is certainly appreciated by me.
12-29-2008, 12:47 AM
chew*

that would be sweet if they sold a board like that
12-29-2008, 12:49 AM
kenofstephen

cool case fan, isn't it? ;)
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...n/DSCF0985.jpg
12-29-2008, 12:54 AM
Lightman

This CPU is fantastic!

I must try my X2 4450e at 1.075V/2.3GHz (default is 1.25V). Wonder if it will work ...

With only 22W TDP and possibility of passive cooling this is perfect for many niche applications like CarPC, ULPC, industrial PC and more.

Thanks for sharing kenofstephen!
12-29-2008, 01:12 AM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightman

This CPU is fantastic!

I must try my X2 4450e at 1.075V/2.3GHz (default is 1.25V). Wonder if it will work ...

With only 22W TDP and possibility of passive cooling this is perfect for many niche applications like CarPC, ULPC, industrial PC and more.

Thanks for sharing kenofstephen!

You're welcome. :)
12-29-2008, 01:19 AM
justapost

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

yah I figured it would now they just need to make it available to the public, I wanted to build one with a 780G and if my math is right the platform will draw 50w max........Amd needs to release this to the public, or not bother competing with atom, I will not buy a prebuilt rig with this cpu.....I want to set it up for my needs, not what someone thinks my needs are. You have a killawatt there? Would be nice to know if my math is correct for 780G.

What psu did you have in mind while doing the math? The foxtronn psu they used here gives quite impressive results.
For comparison an setup with an GBT 780g S2H board an 4850e, 2GB DDR2 800 mem at 1.8V and 160GB sata2 hd and an seasonic II 330W psu requires ~39W AC in idle and ~85W AC with worst case load (CoreDamage).
Should be round ~30W/77W AC with the fortron. Doing an rough estimation now and simply using (77W-30W)/2 as the delta results in an 30W/53,5W AC consumption.
Close to your estimantion and without taking lower mem and board requirements into account.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenofstephen

cool case fan, isn't it? ;)

I use thos SilenX on my wc setup, really very silent, I like em too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightman

This CPU is fantastic!

I must try my X2 4450e at 1.075V/2.3GHz (default is 1.25V). Wonder if it will work ...

With only 22W TDP and possibility of passive cooling this is perfect for many niche applications like CarPC, ULPC, industrial PC and more.

Thanks for sharing kenofstephen!

+1 for not using the word HTPC here. :up: :rofl:
12-29-2008, 01:20 AM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightman

This CPU is fantastic!

I must try my X2 4450e at 1.075V/2.3GHz (default is 1.25V). Wonder if it will work ...

With only 22W TDP and possibility of passive cooling this is perfect for many niche applications like CarPC, ULPC, industrial PC and more.

Thanks for sharing kenofstephen!

oh ya, you need to try higher than that ;) :p:

this mini-ITX board is so good at HTT overclocking! wow!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...oreoc24GHz.jpg
12-29-2008, 01:59 AM
bondhahnmrt85

I think G2 rev will OC up to 3GHz+
Can some test with another motherboard with higher HTT? For max clock this CPU :)
12-29-2008, 02:07 AM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondhahnmrt85

I think G2 rev will OC up to 3GHz+
Can some test with another motherboard with higher HTT? For max clock this CPU :)

I don't prefer adding vcore as the major selling point of this CPU is "energy-saving", "low-power".

@ default vcore oc to 2.4GHz one of the cores become unstable.
I know adding a little bit vcore can fix it but I don't prefer doing so. :)
12-29-2008, 02:17 AM
kenofstephen

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondhahnmrt85

I think G2 rev will OC up to 3GHz+
Can some test with another motherboard with higher HTT? For max clock this CPU :)

not really, this ITX board can do over 400 HTT~...

here you go~ 440 x 5~

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...tephen/440.png
12-29-2008, 02:30 AM
msimax

nice:clap:
12-29-2008, 07:05 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by justapost

What psu did you have in mind while doing the math? The foxtronn psu they used here gives quite impressive results.
For comparison an setup with an GBT 780g S2H board an 4850e, 2GB DDR2 800 mem at 1.8V and 160GB sata2 hd and an seasonic II 330W psu requires ~39W AC in idle and ~85W AC with worst case load (CoreDamage).
Should be round ~30W/77W AC with the fortron. Doing an rough estimation now and simply using (77W-30W)/2 as the delta results in an 30W/53,5W AC consumption.
Close to your estimantion and without taking lower mem and board requirements into account.

I use thos SilenX on my wc setup, really very silent, I like em too.

+1 for not using the word HTPC here. :up: :rofl:

Wasn't really bringing a psu in to the math but it would have to have a high efficiency coupled with low watts. I had found a link to power consumption of boards hold on its in the original thread about this cpu, I will link it.

The reccomended chipset for under 45w consumption with this chip is 740 advertised here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ighlight=3250e

If we look at this chart we can see that a 780G platform consumes only a few more watts than 740G http://www.silentpcreview.com/article859-page5.html

I rounded it up to 50 watts. The small cost of watts is worth it for the better performing IGP imo.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ame=AMD%20740G
average cost of 740G $56.00 with hd2100 graphics.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ame=AMD%20780G
average cost of 780G 79.85 with hd3200 graphics + better southbridge + wider variety of board options.

Worth the $25 difference IMO and what amd should be pushing for with this UVC line of cpu's. This Psu would fit the bill. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151059

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