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GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD9 Retail picture
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Is the waterblock still Aluminum, if so thats a deal killer for me
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Copper with nickel plating iirc
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haha BIG 9 on the box!!!!
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what is on off charge ???
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More importantly, what is that Gigabyte VIP Card good for :D
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I liked the colors they used on previews high performance board, like a darker pcie's blue
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the one thing i want to know is WHEN!
all the gig boards rock, so i am sure this will be no diff/:surf:
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DuraN
More importantly, what is that Gigabyte VIP Card good for :D
A date with Dinos22 :D
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Originally Posted by
M.Beier
A date with Dinos22 :D
:rofl:
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This is a very good board and nearly made me regret buying my Asus, but then I realised that the UD9 is XL-ATX so wouldnt fit in my case, so it doesnt matter as I didnt want a new case.
Its a good board for people with full tower cases.
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Looks like a great board, too bad its in XL-ATX size, it won't fit in a lot of cases anyway, but I'm glad Gigabyte decided to release a case that competes with EVGA and ASUS's 4 way SLI/Crossfire X58 boards.
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Anyone dropping that much on a board would or will be more than happy to grab a massive full tower on rollers :)
I love my UD6 (wasted 24phase and all) only P55 board that seems fully functional, so I can only imagine what a pleasure their X58-UD9 will be to use.
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Not gonna lie, this is a pretty sexy board.
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Chrono Detector
Looks like a great board, too bad its in XL-ATX size, it won't fit in a lot of cases anyway, but I'm glad Gigabyte decided to release a case that competes with EVGA and ASUS's 4 way SLI/Crossfire X58 boards.
Next step Giga must compete with EVGA Classified SR-2!
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Gigabyte needs a UD11 board with UltraDurable 4, 3 oz copper and (quality) 18 phase. Just my little dream there...
Maybe an AMD UD9 board with 12 phase...
Why can't people design these things...they would rock.
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lol at transformer esque mobo sink
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Is this board really 649 dollar those.
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18802/1/
Thats too much for a none dual processor motherboard. Considering I think the original ex58 xtreme was 399, I thinks it's pretty hard to justify another 649 dollars considering it looks very similar to the UD7 aside from the quadfire arrangement.
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Originally Posted by
tajoh111
Is this board really 649 dollar those.
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18802/1/
Thats too much for a none dual processor motherboard. Considering I think the original ex58 xtreme was 399, I thinks it's pretty hard to justify another 649 dollars considering it looks very similar to the UD7 aside from the quadfire arrangement.
Wow with that money I could grab a SR-2...I hope that price is wrong...
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Originally Posted by
BeepBeep2
Gigabyte needs a UD11 board with UltraDurable 4, 3 oz copper and (quality) 18 phase. Just my little dream there...
Maybe an AMD UD9 board with 12 phase...
Why can't people design these things...they would rock.
who would they sell to? 100 pieces?
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Either way, it's still just Gigabyte...
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wow... i had not realized the waterblock was not touching the heatsink array directly!
AGAIN???? epic fail... thats really embarrassing... gigabyte made the same mistake before, i cant believe they did it AGAIN! :shakes:
the waterblock is only touching .01mm thin alu fins that then touch the chipset base plate? who the h3ll comes up with ret4rded designs like this???
might actually still work "OK" to cool the board with water, but thats a really stupid design there hahah...
i doubt it matters much, but... they should rather have left the waterblock off to begin with and cut the cost by 10-15$ instead of adding a waterblock that pretty much cools the AIR flowing over the board :lol:
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RejZoR
Either way, it's still just Gigabyte...
either way, that still beats Asus.
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Originally Posted by
saaya
wow... i had not realized the waterblock was not touching the heatsink array directly!
AGAIN???? epic fail... thats really embarrassing... gigabyte made the same mistake before, i cant believe they did it AGAIN! :shakes:
the waterblock is only touching .01mm thin alu fins that then touch the chipset base plate? who the h3ll comes up with ret4rded designs like this???
might actually still work "OK" to cool the board with water, but thats a really stupid design there hahah...
i doubt it matters much, but... they should rather have left the waterblock off to begin with and cut the cost by 10-15$ instead of adding a waterblock that pretty much cools the AIR flowing over the board :lol:
Yes, agree with you Sascha...UD9 waterblock design should be better than this, or just forget the waterblock and save the money. Hybrid Silentpipe design is better and i think good cooling solution already.:shrug:
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Originally Posted by
Benny Lodewijk
Yes, agree with you Sascha...UD9 waterblock design should be better than this, or just forget the waterblock and save the money. Hybrid Silentpipe design is better and i think good cooling solution already.:shrug:
The Hybrid silent pipe still uses up one expansion slot bracket of your case, right?
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Musho
The Hybrid silent pipe still uses up one expansion slot bracket of your case, right?
Yes of course, but since UD9 using XL-ATX form factor, you need the chasis with minimum 8 explansion slot bracket, so i think no problem.
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Dainas
either way, that still beats Asus.
qft :)
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Benny Lodewijk
Yes of course, but since UD9 using XL-ATX form factor, you need the chasis with minimum 8 explansion slot bracket, so i think no problem.
9! You need a case with nine brackets minimum, 10 for quad dual slot GPU action.
Anyway to me both current XL-ATX enthusiast boards equal lazy PCB engineering. Only 7 slots, yet taking up 9 PCI brackets worth of space? It's entirely possible to make these features work on an EATX board like ASUS demonstrated a couple of times now (P6T7, RIIIE). If trace routing is such an issue I'd personally rather pay for a 10 or even 12 layer PCB and a fully copper active chipset cooling solution (two NF200 = ~40 Watts extra to shed) than a new big ass, ugly case.:down:
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sholvaco
9! You need a case with nine brackets minimum, 10 for quad dual slot GPU action.
Anyway to me both current XL-ATX enthusiast boards equal lazy PCB engineering. Only 7 slots, yet taking up 9 PCI brackets worth of space? It's entirely possible to make these features work on an EATX board like ASUS demonstrated a couple of times now (P6T7, RIIIE). If trace routing is such an issue I'd personally rather pay for a 10 or even 12 layer PCB and a fully copper active chipset cooling solution (two NF200 = ~40 Watts extra to shed) than a new big ass, ugly case.:down:
Quoted for truth. But then again, people that have enough money to buy these kind of systems usually don't mind spending a bit more on a new case. So they aren't losing that many sales by cheaping out on the design. Why do you need 10 brackets for quad GPU though? 1 for the hybrid silent pipe plus 2 per GPU ends up requiring 9 for quad GPU, right? :confused:
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You need 10 because both boards skip the first two PCI brackets in order to fit all their junk there (one of the two NF200, NB, uncore PWM...). The first PCI slot lines up with the third PCI bracket on a case while the last, seventh slot lines up with the ninth bracket. A dual-slot GPU in the last slot overhangs the motherboard therefore you need 10 brackets.
Just a personal opinion, but all of the cases able to fit these so far are dead ugly to me (yes even the Lian Li). So even if I had all the money in the world... :p:
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which cases can hold this monster? thanks.
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HelixPC
which cases can hold this monster? thanks.
Corsair 800D does with a minor mod :D
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Bodkin
Is the waterblock still Aluminum, if so thats a deal killer for me
copper mate..........GIGABYTE's had copper on their borads for a loooong time... :)
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kromosto
what is on off charge ???
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/...off-charge.htm
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Originally Posted by
DuraN
More importantly, what is that Gigabyte VIP Card good for :D
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Originally Posted by
M.Beier
A date with Dinos22 :D
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Originally Posted by
DuraN
:rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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systemviper
the one thing i want to know is WHEN!
all the gig boards rock, so i am sure this will be no diff/:surf:
first shipments went out end of last week so they will appear in shops next week or week after
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Originally Posted by
tajoh111
Is this board really 649 dollar those.
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18802/1/
Thats too much for a none dual processor motherboard. Considering I think the original ex58 xtreme was 399, I thinks it's pretty hard to justify another 649 dollars considering it looks very similar to the UD7 aside from the quadfire arrangement.
Street price in Australia is ~AUD$650 (roughly high US$500 price tag for us but we are always more expensive than places like US so i guess just see what they will sell for locally in your country)
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Originally Posted by
Benny Lodewijk
Yes, agree with you Sascha...UD9 waterblock design should be better than this, or just forget the waterblock and save the money. Hybrid Silentpipe design is better and i think good cooling solution already.:shrug:
yeah agreed there
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Originally Posted by
HelixPC
which cases can hold this monster? thanks.
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/...9_caselist.pdf
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Originally Posted by
sholvaco
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You need 10 because both boards skip the first two PCI brackets in order to fit all their junk there (one of the two NF200, NB, uncore PWM...). The first PCI slot lines up with the third PCI bracket on a case while the last, seventh slot lines up with the ninth bracket. A dual-slot GPU in the last slot overhangs the motherboard therefore you need 10 brackets.
Just a personal opinion, but all of the cases able to fit these so far are dead ugly to me (yes even the Lian Li). So even if I had all the money in the world... :p:
Wouldnt need a 10 slot case if manuf started making single slot brackets for the watercooling crowd....
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gigabyte said 24phase of UD9 is more advance than 24phase of UD7 ???
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PatRaceTin
gigabyte said 24phase of UD9 is more advance than 24phase of UD7 ???
Hard to say, the old design seemed to be a 6 phase controller and MUX. Not sure what they are doing with this one. The UD5 VRM actually 'looks' better in the article Dino linked than the UD7.
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raju
Hard to say, the old design seemed to be a 6 phase controller and MUX. Not sure what they are doing with this one. The UD5 VRM actually 'looks' better in the article Dino linked than the UD7.
They should've just used digital PWM.
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zalbard
They should've just used digital PWM.
Maybe gig engineers know something that we don't? :D Who knows... :confused:
Anyway it's nice looking board, I doubt it would lack some nice performance. For someone that can afford additional PCI-e cards this is really nice board to go with....otherwise..
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PatRaceTin
gigabyte said 24phase of UD9 is more advance than 24phase of UD7 ???
X58A-UD9 new 24phase Design
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1289816_n.jpg
708a vcore output pretty easy to handle gulftown, also the new VRM design has complicate and very smart switch dynamic phase let motherboard more durable and strong.
if you not extreme user, but more focus on engery saver, this VRM design has new techlonlogy, each tiime boot will rotale first pahse to turn on machine, such as first time boot using first phase to turn on, 2nd turn on with 3rd phase automatically, this will reduce RMA risk, give VRM more longer life time, and reduce very boot hit on the same phase.
DES2 with new design
on tranditional dynamic VRM design offers CPU phase depened on loading which
cpu needed. but every time boot the system will from first phase. with engery saver
tool, system might could change the phase for cpu using, like 1 phase or 2 phase when
cpu is idle, so think about this, each time you boot the system and idle system, most of time
power is attacking the first phase, first phase always be use 100%. means if first phase
die then you need to RMA to board.
so take down this,
1. first phase always be used 100%, if die then need to RMA board
with new VRM and energy saving design, system will chose random phase to boot(
yes this is the new technology!), when cpu boot or idle , first phase won't be aways 100%
and not be the only one be attack, so if first phase die, 2nd phase replace to boot system
automatically, if 2nd die , 3rd phase will instead to do this job.
so take down this.
2. first phase won't be hit 100%, lift more longer life span of VRM
if first phase die, the board still work well, casue 2nd phase will replace to do the job.
3. reduce the heater of VRM, if system is idle or light loading, the heater won't be always
on the same phase. system boot to choose each phase to be the master phase.
with DES 2 software, system will auotmatically choose which phase to boot, also provide
dynamic phase change. make a exmaple, when cpu light loading needs 2 phase to work
system choose 1st and 3rd, so 2nd phase won't be use, this function also balance the heater from whole VRM design.
system is under DES2 controlled, and compatible with easytune6, you could do overclocking aslo do the DES2, here is the defination when VRM will use full 24phase
, when cpu is under heavy loading, current over than 80amps of vcore, normally
if you install a 980x processor do a full core task, VRM will run 24phase.
X58A-UD9 is based on this new technology of VRM design, but more complicate
sorry i can't tell whole story, but hope my explaination will help you to understand
gigabyte's new VRM design.
the attached picture like a simple explanation, and comparison with trandition
engery saving VRM design.
X58A-UD9 new VRM energy saving design benefit.
1. balance and reduce the heat of VRM
2. more effiency offer power with dynamic phase change
3. offer more long life span, reducing power attacking the same phase
4. reduce RMA case ( attached picture use 4phase to explain, with tranditional design
if first phase die, then you need RMA, with new design, if you loose phase 1,3,4 board
still alive.)
5. new 24phase VRM and DES2 design, combined with best effiency and powerful
current for cpu using.
backup* if you not install DES2, VRM do full 24 phase all the time.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4568567_n.jpg
hicookie
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It's Available at Newegg for $699.99. 23 are in stock.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...pk=ga-x58a-ud9
Not sure if it warrants that type of a premium price.
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Kensek
WTH Gigabyte is thinking :rofl:? even EVGA SR-2 is $100 less cheaper than that...damn I was looking forward for UD9, but for at that price I could get a RE3 + memory at least...
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hicookie
can you switch off the ocp in the bios?
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Blacky
WTH Gigabyte is thinking :rofl:? even EVGA SR-2 is $100 less cheaper than that...damn I was looking forward for UD9, but for at that price I could get a RE3 + memory at least...
I am wondering, where can you buy SR-2 ??? Thing is; someone actually asked me on MSN, and I simply couldnt answer.... It seems to be a not released product...???? A 5-10 sample ultra rare edition???
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Hondacity
hicookie
can you switch off the ocp in the bios?
BIOS do automatically recently, also we can open a option in BIOS,
which one you prefer?
hicookie
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Thank you hicookie
new design is very good!!!
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So there is difference between ud7 and ud9 24 phase operation after all?
Dual Power Switching is not present with ud7, thus new re-engineered 24 phase power design rotates phases with each initial boot.
Nice reading, thanks hicookie! :)
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Originally Posted by
hicookie
3. offer more long life span, reducing power attacking the same phase
4. reduce RMA case ( attached picture use 4phase to explain, with tranditional design if first phase die, then you need RMA, with new design, if you loose phase 1,3,4 board
still alive.)
3. Will switching boot phase make a difference for most of the people that buys these premium boards which will be replaces within a year?
4. If say one VRM phase dies, wouldn't you want to RMA the board anyway? Even if you could boot and back up your files, and use it while your RMA is being approved, which is the only thing I see a use for this technology.
Also, without the motherboard dieing, how do you know how many phases has died? Does the software report it?
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hicookie
BIOS do automatically recently, also we can open a option in BIOS,
which one you prefer?
hicookie
recently saw your 3d05 @ 6.7ghz!!! very very nice world record:up:
is there a coldbug adjustment possible? were you able to adjust something software wise or hardware wise to adjust coldbug?
is the cpu you used for 6.7ghz es or retail? is this another batch from your previous results?