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09-07-2010, 07:06 AM
stangracin3

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Originally Posted by CrimInalA

Bingo13, maybe you can tell us what we are waiting for and what bug is being crushed at the moment ? :shrug:

i would just like to know if i need to buy a new motherboard, because currently this thing is pissing me off
09-07-2010, 08:49 AM
taz2

2 graphics cards not working in 1606

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Originally Posted by Kueller

Tried out the 1605 M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 BIOS, hoping it might solve my 2 nvidia card problem (1gfx/1phx in theory), but the second card still goes unrecognized.

Was this supposed to be addressed in 1605, or just the mixed amd/nvidia setup?

I think it was supposed to be addressed in this BIOS. I upgraded my M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 to the latest release BIOS 1606, and it does NOT recognize my second graphics card. I have an HD5850 in the primary and 9600 GT in the second slot. Overall I'm pleased with the BIOS and have had no issues, it just doesn't fix the problem I (and others) are having.

I did NOT clear CMOS after loading, will try that when I get some time. Any other suggestions are welcome!

Taz
09-07-2010, 09:06 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by taz2

I think it was supposed to be addressed in this BIOS. I upgraded my M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 to the latest release BIOS 1606, and it does NOT recognize my second graphics card. I have an HD5850 in the primary and 9600 GT in the second slot. Overall I'm pleased with the BIOS and have had no issues, it just doesn't fix the problem I (and others) are having.

I did NOT clear CMOS after loading, will try that when I get some time. Any other suggestions are welcome!

Taz

You guys do know that the lower slot is primary on ASUS M4A890 series boards right?
09-07-2010, 10:17 AM
taz2
Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

You guys do know that the lower slot is primary on ASUS M4A890 series boards right?

Yes, I know the slot difference. In my case, I have an HD5850 and 9600GT. Here are the various scenarios & how they play out:
- Just the HD5850: Recognizes it without an issue in primary slot
- Just the 9600GT: Recognizes it without an issue in the primary slot
- 9600GT in primary, HD5850 in secondary: Recognizes both cards
- 9600GT in secondary,HD5850 in primary: Recognizes only the HD5850
Again, I have not tried swapping cards or slots, etc., since upgrading to 1606 but I don't think it will matter since it can't see the 9600GT in the configuration I need.

Taz
09-07-2010, 10:41 PM
mibo
Quote:
Originally Posted by taz2

Yes, I know the slot difference. In my case, I have an HD5850 and 9600GT. Here are the various scenarios & how they play out:

Just the HD5850: Recognizes it without an issue in primary slot
Just the 9600GT: Recognizes it without an issue in the primary slot
9600GT in primary, HD5850 in secondary: Recognizes both cards
9600GT in secondary,HD5850 in primary: Recognizes only the HD5850

Again, I have not tried swapping cards or slots, etc., since upgrading to 1606 but I don't think it will matter since it can't see the 9600GT in the configuration I need.

Taz
:( So, still no fix for this.
I really would like to put a second nVidia card in my M4A89GTD PRO for folding@home.
09-07-2010, 10:51 PM
oxydius

The 1606 BIOS release notes specifically mention fixing support for two NVIDIA cards. Yet, my Geforce 460 and Geforce 240 fail to be detected simultaneously in the M4A89GTD Pro. :confused:
09-07-2010, 11:14 PM
-Px-

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Originally Posted by taz2

I did NOT clear CMOS after loading

That doesn't help, I've tried this with no luck...
09-07-2010, 11:54 PM
pcnazz

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Originally Posted by oxydius

The 1606 BIOS release notes specifically mention fixing support for two NVIDIA cards. Yet, my Geforce 460 and Geforce 240 fail to be detected simultaneously in the M4A89GTD Pro. :confused:

Try uninstalling your gpu drivers & boot and install them again , for the hell of it give that a try .
09-08-2010, 05:10 AM
taz2

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Originally Posted by pcnazz

Try uninstalling your gpu drivers & boot and install them again , for the hell of it give that a try .

Device manager, AMD Overdrive, GPU-z, do not recognize a second GPU installed in the computer. The GPU does work and is recognized if installed as the sole GPU, just not as a secondary one...even if it is only for physics.

Uninstalling and reinstalling GPU drivers would very likely not work, but I can give it a try when I get time.
09-08-2010, 06:21 AM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

You guys do know that the lower slot is primary on ASUS M4A890 series boards right?

-_- I'm not setup in BTX >_<

lol seems kjinda odd when most use the highest slot.

but now I know why my bottom card shows up first in gpu-z.
09-08-2010, 07:10 AM
bingo13

09/08/2010 Update

I will warn everyone now that updating to the following BIOS code means you cannot flash back to a previous BIOS and we will not have a tool to do it. Unless you are willing to use a BETA BIOS, wait for the official release please.

Crosshair IV Formula - BIOS 055
1. Improved Memory Performance and Clocking
2. C1E/CnQ operation update
3. Voltage enhancements

http://www.mediafire.com/file/hb5uxm...-ASUS-0055.rar

Crosshair III Formula - BIOS 1805
1. Improved Memory Performance and Clocking
2. C1E/CnQ operation update
3. Voltage enhancements

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kdvvx3...-ASUS-1805.rar

Based on the CIIIF results, should be rolling out M3/M4 updates in the near future.
09-08-2010, 07:16 AM
oxydius

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcnazz

Try uninstalling your gpu drivers & boot and install them again , for the hell of it give that a try .

This is not very relevant when running Linux. The second Nvidia GPU doesn't even show up in the device list (lspci).
09-08-2010, 09:40 AM
-Px-

bingo13
I understand, that most attention pointed on high level products, but want to ask about one old integrated motherboard - Asus M2NPV-MX. Near two month ago I found that there is new beta BIOS for it, 5005, which added support for all AM2/AM2+/AM3 CPUs, except six core models. Later, some of them disappeared from CPU Support List, for example Phenom II X4 955/965, and there is also post on forum, where user says about incompatibility of this mobo with Phenom II X4 945. I planned to upgrade CPU in this mobo to one of Phenom II X4 CPUs, but now I'm in embarrassment - is Phenom II X4 working on this motherboard, and why some of the CPUs disappeared form CPU Support List?
09-08-2010, 10:57 AM
CrimInalA

flashed CHIV 055 bios , previous oc settings are not stable at all . not even when upping voltages and lowering speeds .
(yes i did clear cmos , reset to defaults and did settings again)

So now running linx at F5 default bios settings to see if that's stable . (seen fsb fluctuate between 189 and 217 , wow)
09-08-2010, 11:15 AM
Tonyb

Bios 0055

Why is this Bios dated the day before the 1005 if it is newer?:shrug:
09-08-2010, 11:33 AM
Cyberlink_20

Thnaks Bingo for the updated news. Can't wait to get an update for my M3 motherboard hopefully it's not another month before it comes out haha.
09-08-2010, 12:34 PM
Shadowized

that's quite a large fsb droop Crim :( can anyone else confirm that?
09-08-2010, 12:34 PM
Panther_Seraphi

Be nice to see more m3a79 love :)
09-08-2010, 01:21 PM
Praz

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Originally Posted by Shadowized

that's quite a large fsb droop Crim :( can anyone else confirm that?

Haven't seen anything like that here with 955/1090. Monitoring with CPU-Z, AI Suite and THG Clock. Both idle and loaded using Prime (small FFTs/blend) and LinX. Voltage spreads are tighter with this BIOS, particularly VCORE and CPU/NB. Also at least on my board most measured voltages are lower then software reports.
09-08-2010, 01:25 PM
fastleo63

I'm still waiting for a Turbo CORE compliant BIOS for my M3A78-T...
I'm wondering why it seems so difficult to implement it, because there are several M3N series boards, even the oldest and cheapest M2N with that feature enabled...
Why nVIDIA chipsets are "easier" in BIOS developement?
I bought a full AMD board (SB750, price around 130 EUR), thinking that my choice will assure stability, and frequent updates, including full Thuban support...
09-08-2010, 02:11 PM
nex_73

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Originally Posted by Tonyb

Why is this Bios dated the day before the 1005 if it is newer?:shrug:

Build date:
1005: 6/8-10
0055: 26/8-10
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Many thanks for the new bios bingo13! :up:
But what happened with the LLC % settings and new AGESA (cpu patch)?
I only see updated P6 micro code rom?
Haven't had time fiddle with it that much yet...
09-08-2010, 02:31 PM
Boschwanza

@bingo

Just found out the major problem of Thuban with the crosshair II. Seems like Asus implemented the 4 P-States of the Phenom II X4 for the X6 (which has 5 P-States).

To make it visual what they did wrong:

http://www.abload.de/img/thubanfmz7.png

but it should be this way:

http://www.abload.de/img/thubaniipvjn.png

So P4 doesnt not work because the X4 doesnt have it, -> no C&Q. Multiplier Changes in Bios just affects the Turbo state (P0), not the normal Load State (P1). Would be pleased if u can adress this to your technicians in charge.

regards
09-08-2010, 07:57 PM
Daveburt714

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Originally Posted by Praz

Haven't seen anything like that here with 955/1090. Monitoring with CPU-Z, AI Suite and THG Clock. Both idle and loaded using Prime (small FFTs/blend) and LinX. Voltage spreads are tighter with this BIOS, particularly VCORE and CPU/NB. Also at least on my board most measured voltages are lower then software reports.

I haven't seen any crazy float on the HTref either (although it still no better than 1005)...

Did you check voltages off the board with a DMM Praz?
And if so, did you happen to note how much lower it was compared to CPU-z?

Thanks..... Dave
09-08-2010, 08:47 PM
CrimInalA

seems like the cpu-nb needs a lot more vcore in my case . whereas 3085mhz was stable at 1.3V before i now need 1.4V to get 3000NB stable .
still testing with linx now , this time upping HTlink speed and see .
09-08-2010, 11:00 PM
_Cyber_

there is the same problem on M3N-HT board.
i have already written asus support a long time ago ... :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boschwanza

@bingo

Just found out the major problem of Thuban with the crosshair II. Seems like Asus implemented the 4 P-States of the Phenom II X4 for the X6 (which has 5 P-States).

To make it visual what they did wrong:

http://www.abload.de/img/thubanfmz7.png

but it should be this way:

http://www.abload.de/img/thubaniipvjn.png

So P4 doesnt not work because the X4 doesnt have it, -> no C&Q. Multiplier Changes in Bios just affects the Turbo state (P0), not the normal Load State (P1). Would be pleased if u can adress this to your technicians in charge.

regards

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