Venice 3200+@3200MHZ Pi Inside ;)

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10-06-2005, 02:34 PM
SoF

Venice 3200+@3200MHZ Pi Inside ;) (max 3279MHZ)

Hey guys,

at the very beginning thanks for all the nice evenings I spent here watching you overclocking, now I can finally bring some, I would call it "good" but not impressive, overclocking here on my own :toast:
I wanted 3GHZ at the beginning of this year, but a damaged Prommi sold to me (without knowing it), 3500+ NC damaged while transporting by DHL, 2x coldbug Winchesters and more stopped me...I was testing a 3500+ NC again last week to make sure my rig is 100% subzero-capable...today I finally got my 3200+ Venice E3...

First my current personal SuperPi 1m best:
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench...e/27_1s_1m.jpg
I will install a fresh XP tomorrow and see if I can get 26s ;)

The maximum stable I had...seems my RAMs are stopping me :( Won't do 266MHZ with dividers (270MHZ 1:1 with my newcastle just yesterday) Think I have to get some TCCDs.
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench...3_32m_1_7V.jpg

Some 3D Benches with just one single 6600GT running 565/1200MHZ for these benches. It isn't a good clocker and will give me errors in shader tests @570MHZ gpu :( will replace it soon, I guess.
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench...k_aquamark.jpg
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench..._24k_3DM01.jpg
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench.../10k_3dm03.jpg

I'm glad to finally seen 3.2GHZ on my own...maybe 3.3GHZ with a little bit tuning for SS would be nice. I will have time this weekend so I think I can improve some things. Processor is running for ~5hours now...with the second boot (!!) I hit the 3GHZ which was really amazing because it was a lot harder, or often impossible with the other 5 processors I had - GREAT processor :clap:
the second boot shot was this one hrhr
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench...ll_2ndboot.jpg

Best regards,
SoF

---------current suicide shot-----------------
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench.../3279_1_7V.jpg
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10-06-2005, 02:39 PM
AKURA

That's one of hell of a chip ya got there! :slobber: Congrats :toast:
10-06-2005, 02:40 PM
MrSeanKon

Congratulations SoF! :toast:
Burn it for higher speeds! :)
AMD RULEZ! :clap:
10-06-2005, 02:44 PM
SoF

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSeanKon

Congratulations SoF! :toast:
Burn it for higher speeds! :)
AMD RULEZ! :clap:

Yeah will do it this night.
Will use your suggester to see what it tells me if ram is only doing 265MHZ and so on...think the report I wanted to make about it will come this week-end Sean ;)

thanks to both of you...I will not give up/stop here :cool:

NOT a suicide shot...still booting without problems, but no superpi anymore with any dividers...seems I'm out of the stable range and I don't have voltages left :( But 3.3GHZ in Windows would be sweet - will go for it during week-end...
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench.../3257_1_7V.jpg
10-06-2005, 04:34 PM
Welz

So you are cooling with phase?

nice clocks :banana:
10-06-2005, 05:08 PM
SoF

thanks, yes it's a modded prommi mach I ;)
I'm facing problems in prime.
32m is no problem, OCCT test runs as well but prime will crash within 1minute ^^
any ideas? windows reinstall soon but I don't think this will help...no dividers helped...small fft crashing as well in less than one minute...strange...

ah 32m under 25minutes....the 3183MHZ run had bad ram timings I just remarked.
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench...0_32m_1_6V.jpg
so it's 3 o'clock in the morning here right now - good n9 ;)
10-06-2005, 05:26 PM
[XC] moddolicous

Nice chip SoF. Post an A64 tweaker shot, maybe we can get the 1m a little bit faster. Couldnt find it, but is IHS on or off? Would like 1.75v do anything?
10-06-2005, 05:36 PM
gocchin

With ram with low timings you'll be able to do 26sec for sure like I did on my 3200 week 17 venice, good luck!:

http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/venicesuperpi1.jpg
10-06-2005, 06:01 PM
misteroadster

improve the cooling and you 'll probably able to do that :D
http://www.overclocking-masters.com/...ns/2423200.JPG
10-06-2005, 10:57 PM
s7e9h3n

Yup, get yourself some TCCD ;) . Here's my old 3200+ on a stock Mach2 (134a):
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3...10spi1m1bk.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3...30spi1m3gr.jpg
Times should have been lower, but I didn't know my ram timings were so screwed up uintil after I sold my cpu :p:
10-06-2005, 11:00 PM
SoF

hrhr now I know what to beat :)
IHS still on it, had a NC without and it wasn't that good with my Self-made prommi kit.
It is already 1.75V in bios just CPUz reads it. will measure it today because I don't trust this sensor ^^
I'm having problems with Prime...won't run even 1minute...A64 screen not uploaded yet I will do it after work - uh have to hurry it's already 5min past 9 ^^
Thanks mates :toast:

Greetz SoF
10-06-2005, 11:19 PM
serker

Hi an NICE OC !! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Is there a guide on how to build your owm phase and watercooler? I got an:

ADA3200DAA4BP
LBBLE 0517GPMW
Z644416E50743

CPU, Can I reach 3ghz or more?? :confused:
10-06-2005, 11:59 PM
SoF

I think it would even scale with more voltage, I'm thinking of volt modding my gigabyte ^^ 3.3GHZ without IHS and 1.8V should be possible @1m I think :D
I really need to improve my RAM but I was not going for best times yesterday, I first wanted to see what's the range it is stable ;)
I want to see why Prime won't run today but I won't spend much time on it if OCCT is running without problems. RAM timings for 32m @3100MHZ where around 3-4-4-8-4-2-2-3-Async Latency 7ns/Preamble value (or so) 5.5ns Command Rate 1T
RAM will not do CL2.5 for any reason :(
10-07-2005, 02:01 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoF

I think it would even scale with more voltage, I'm thinking of volt modding my gigabyte ^^ 3.3GHZ without IHS and 1.8V should be possible @1m I think :D
I really need to improve my RAM but I was not going for best times yesterday, I first wanted to see what's the range it is stable ;)
I want to see why Prime won't run today but I won't spend much time on it if OCCT is running without problems. RAM timings for 32m @3100MHZ where around 3-4-4-8-4-2-2-3-Async Latency 7ns/Preamble value (or so) 5.5ns Command Rate 1T
RAM will not do CL2.5 for any reason :(

I see you're following in Mr. Roadster's footsteps :p: He's also using a gigabyte and if you haven't noticed, he's running 1.9+Vcore. My cpu needed 1.66 to run 1m @ 3300 and to do this (all with ihs still attached):cool: :
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6...erified0qy.jpg
10-07-2005, 02:20 AM
njkid32

I see you guys are posting your 3200's so I'll post my new one (just got yesterday). SoF what stepping is yours? Here are a couple of ss's. I am still working on better times. I was just messing with the ram timings on my VX to make them as tight as I can.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/6356/260160bu.th.png
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2...rify3ci.th.png
10-07-2005, 02:25 AM
Absolute_0

njkid my man i dont want to see that 3.5x crap, i want to see 3.6!
10-07-2005, 03:03 AM
SoF

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

I see you're following in Mr. Roadster's footsteps :p: He's also using a gigabyte and if you haven't noticed, he's running 1.9+Vcore. My cpu needed 1.66 to run 1m @ 3300 and to do this (all with ihs still attached):cool:

hehe I don't think I'll get even near to Mr.Roadster 3.6GHZ is awesome :D
If I'm correct my Board will stop ~330HTT :(
I would really like some more voltages for the CPU...but I reached what I wanted so I think I won't mod it for now.
@s7e9h3n indeed another great one...3300MHZ with HS is sweet :cool:
@njkid32 stepping is 3200+[V] LBBLE 0516GPDW E3
yours is even better than the one before - don't make me feel slow, or I will cut off my IHS and try to beat your clocks *g*
What are your temps? I'm not sure if the -40/-38°C (I think ~-35°C cpu) is the best temp for the venice when looking to Mr.Roadster...

...Regards SoF
10-07-2005, 03:09 AM
njkid32

Well my stepping is 0521DPWM and I am running a modded prommy at -40c at the chip. But your chip looks like it had more in it I would say get that ram tweaked and clockgen the hell out of it. LOL
10-07-2005, 03:15 AM
SoF

yeah friend of mine suggested clockgen as well.
problem is that it will get unstable for any reason @266MHZ with dividers. therefore I can't pass 1m with 166er divider @3210MHZ :(
this will be an exciting week-end. 26s Pi is a MUST HAVE for me now ;)

I have a modded prommy giving ~-40°C load as well - welcome to the club :toast:
10-07-2005, 05:09 AM
MrSeanKon

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoF

think the report I wanted to make about it will come this week-end Sean ;)

Thanks mate! :toast:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoF

It is already 1.75V in bios just CPUz reads it. will measure it today because I don't trust this sensor ^^

Of course you should measure your voltages you have an extreme cooling system multimeter is must!
Check your PSU also....

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoF

I'm having problems with Prime

WTF is going on fellas??? :mad:
Here Primoz78 replied the same problem....
And I don't what's the problem... :rolleyes:
In the past some Bartons could not passed Prime95 that's why I love S&M and OCCT SoF :stick: I don't trust anymore Prime95 for AMDs...
10-07-2005, 05:17 AM
SoF

12V + 5V already measured of course ;)
12.1V + 5.1V stable!
OCCT running @3GHZ @1.55V...want to burn in after your burn-in guide...i think i kicked my winchester burning it in the first night with 2960MHZ @1.65V which was total maximum and was never reached again afterwards...I'm still not sure but I have the feeling before this run it wasn't that coldbugged as it was after this night...

will go on OCCT today because this seems to work for me...2,5h of work and then it's going on clocking ;)
10-07-2005, 05:27 AM
MrSeanKon

Keep it up SoF!
Your PSU voltages are OK so find the first MSFs using OCCT and fill table....
I want to see amazing speeds! :toast:

LOL although my Venice is :stick: a banana it has no problems yet cos of teravolts...

Xm have you put extra heatsinks on mainboard's MOSFETs?? :rolleyes:
It is necessary cos you run your system very far from manufacturer's specifications. :D
I always put heatsinks on MOSFETs and extra fans!
10-07-2005, 06:32 AM
SoF

I think I was one of the most crazy air-cooling guys in germany 2 years ago....system had 23 fans blowing on everything. But I reconstructed my LianLi so there are running only 5 fans atm and a 30cm ventilator direktly blowing on the board.
This will be improved during the week-end.
I will look what I can do regarding board cooling.
OCCT 3000GHZ @1.55V will stopp after 10min @1.5V after 4min :(
Superpi is running fine...Prime will crash in less than 1minute on both settings...this was my test run during lunch...I'm afraid it is a good Pi and Bench processor but won't be really stable above 3100MHZ :(
but no burn in so far and as far as I experienced...if you're having the first stable setting and will burn in it, it will be much easier to lower voltages afterwards a little bit or go higher...

€dit: damn it will need 1.65V in cpuz to be stable @3GHZ in prime :(
or it just needs voltage and will go better but 1.75V@3150MHZ wasn't nearly prime stable yesterday...seems to me this cpu really needs a burn in because when it can handle 32m@3180MHZ prime @3100MHZ @1.75V should be possible
€²: ram seems to max out @273MZH this time...but seems temps are little bit better...3059MHZ @1.67V (cpu z value, will measure tomorrow, no need for it so far because i can't do anything on it to improve ;) ) prime will crash after 7minutes even with 166er divider (=253MHZ ram) this is not looking good...think i will switch to superpi again ;D
10-07-2005, 10:39 AM
MrSeanKon

SoF a general question:
What's are your favourite applications????
Let me be more specific:
My CPU is 32M SuperPi stable at 2750 MHz as you have seen.
But it can run video compressions at 2770 MHz for 3-4 hours and Maple+Mathematica for 5 hours (after crashes)....
Anyway both of Mathematical packages (Maple + Mathematica) + DrDivX are not sensitive like 32M --> this program is enough for stability testing.
If you play games or other heavier applications you must be at least 32M stable and then run OCCT for 4-6 hours.
10-07-2005, 10:57 AM
SoF

well I like the 32m....because you always have a overall time - "how fast is my system"
for testing stability I used prime normally...even if I do not think Prime itself is reliable enough. For all day use I test Pi32m first and it must be a good time. Then I will go for Benches and at last there comes Pi. Maybe I will change to OCCT...I will check this tool tomorrow.
Just reached my board limit again...as I thought - 327HTT is bootable but from then on it will stop before detecting IDE drives...I read exactly the same with another german guy and his board....maybe I will try the F8 and F9 bios but the ram timings are F*cking limited why ever....the k8nxp-sli f7 is so sweet when speaking about ram timings but the new bios revisions are crap imo.
and here are some new shots:

http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench.../3279_1_7V.jpg
http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench...e/27_1s_1m.jpg

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