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Right lads,
The system is now ready to be beated in the overclocking stakes, however, I have never played with an AMD before so I need some breaking in ;)
I have OCZ Platinum 3200 Rev.2 TCCD, 3500+ Winchester, Mach II GT, Neo2.
These are the timings I set in the Bios, however, what are the final two figures and what should they be set to when I overclock?
Thanx a million! ;)
This bloody system wont boot with the Mach II cooling on it!!
Only boots when the STOCK HSF is on??
Anyone know why>? Is it the board or the CPU?
look in bios for option: shut down when cpu fan fails ...or something like that. otherwise just plug in a fan in the cpu fan header
I already had a fan running off the CPU fan header on the mobo :(
What else can I try?
how about cpu disconnet function? CPU thermal throttling? just disable the if its available :D
can't help.. but that must be hard.. such a nice system and not able to have fun with it :(
don't worry... :toast:
but heard about problems with that board/winchesters/however + subzero... but thought it's only that they can't read the temp or something like that...
can't remember, cause i got only water ;)
Okay, welcome to the club. I got another winchester chip and 2 more mobo (1 MSI and 1 Gigabyte K8NS Ultra) today to figure out wth is going on. But waiting on CPU atm. Also in line are 3 PSU to test with Ultra X connect 500W, OCZ PS 520W, Enermax Coolergiant 380W. Some people did complain about OCZ PS not working well before so I figured having some other PSU handy would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashman
Can we get rest of your spec? I've got Raptor, 120 GB hitachi hDD, OCZ PSU, 2 DVD+-RW, 6800GT, SB audigy when it didnt want to boot. (on phase at least).
Only thing I changed back when I got it up was on air with different PSU. I thought it was cooling... but not 100% certain atm.
Oh, what bios are you using?
OCZ Platinum 3200 Rev.2 (TCCD)
3500+ 90nm
Msi Neo2
74gb Raptor
2x Maxtor IDE Drives
2x Optical
Antec 550w TruePower
6800 Ultra
Mach II GT
Apparently there is another firmware to download / flash for mach II's when u get start up issues with SK8V etc. But i havent tried that yet as the Mach II gets to temp straight away, just PC doesnt seem to like the cold??
That was my initial guess but the problem is... There ARE people running phase change with no problem at all it seems. What does that bios fix anyway? I've dl'ed it but haven't bother looking into it yet. Maybe changing start temp? As for bios I was asking you which revision of K8N Neo2 bios you were trying on... :P It didn't make diff to me but it might for you... just wondering.
Guys,
I don't know if its a CPU problem, try flashing to the latest bios. MDZCPA has a FX-55 running on NEO2 using a MK II, try pming him if all else fails.
Something about CPU fan connectors? :stick: :confused:
Something to try.
Yes, those last moments pouring over the manual *gasp* before the hell-driven overclock are magical. Keep working at it, buddy, and you will get it. Not to worry at all...
think it is more of issue of winchester... no one ever had problem with booting up like this sub zero temp under 130nm 939 solutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by WesM63
Got my chip and working on MSI first. Will test few air things such as how well it handles 3700EB before I decide which board goes into prommy. so far it seems fine since I am on air...
Thats a WInnie issue.. someone else(charlie?) posted that he tried winchesters and NC under same Mach setup..only NC boot. :(
ok guys lets try to make this the office Winchester / Mach2 thread yeah - maybe change the title to say so or make this a sticky?
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I am in the same board - bought the Neo2 and the A8V.
The good news is that is you want a Winny and Mach2 there is an option, my Rev 2 WiFi edition (1007 bios) works fine with the Mach2 (usig the A64 latest firmware). The unit will correctly keep the mobo off until -33c is reached and will correctly power the board
The A8V will post and run with the Mach2 in place, and more importantly will read correct temps in both bios and MBM5 (-20c idle) : before i tried the Neo2 (#ucking killed 2 of my expensive PSU's before ripping in out in disgust) I was getting fine temps
Waiting for a new PSU then will try the A8V again - was getting some instability but am 99% sure that was down to bios options, incompatible high LL ram (OCZ 4200EL) - will be using 1gb of Ballistix this time.
Would be interested to see you results jinu117 with that equipment - good luck :toast:
my msi boards dont' seem to hold reset so they will post straight off. I tried both FX53 and 0.09u 3500+. Both posted fine with Mach`1 modded by chilly1. However, my mounting is screwing do to that rather large mosfet in the way, and I was having problems b/c of that.
Am I happy to read your post :p: Just ordered an Asus A8V and a 3200+ Winchester. Got afraid it wouldn't work with my Mach II. But you reassured me. Thank you very much :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Psilonaught1
Well will see result here today again... going to gameve and gonna pickup A8V shortly... if it is rev 2.0... Bah we do need to consolidate this threads (I am partially responsible for it too...:P)
MSI just won't cooperate at low temp, so won't Giga's K8NS Ultra.
Oh yes, they both will post if I do CMOS reset but once I try something other than that... no go.
Just hoping A8V might be the fix doctor ordered. If it isn't, this gives us interesting situation where it might be actual chip that is preventing booting. Since this particular CPU and 2 other 3200+ winchester I tried would refuse to boot sub zero temp. (They ALL were fine on air though) at which point, I believe the problem just multiplies.
This is sooo annoying!
AMD told me today that the CPU's are not "supposed" to be run at negative temps and that I was silly to do so!! LOL
He therfore wouldnt comment on the Winnie in particlular!
It seems alot of people are having this problem tho, I'm very tempted to swap this 3500+ Winchester for a 3500+ Newcastle, just for an easy life :)
i wonder if there is a new stepping out? ive had 2 winchesters so far and only the newest one works under the ls and neo2 :confused:
Okay... so you couldn't boot with your Neo2 on prommy? or were you able to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psilonaught1
This is rather important as I need to know if it is CPU or bios...
If your CPU boots with Neo2... and both A8V it might be CPU specific issues....
Where are we with this guys - is there a problem I should know about regards the Mach II?? (now Prometeia 2) or is it cpu related/bios related? This sort of info is invaluable as I can take it to the manufacturer if its a major issue.
It is major issue among less than .1% of computer users -_-; They wouldn't think of it as issue at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by phil stanbridge
Update: ASUS does do better... however, this one freezes once evap temp goes to -50c or so. Asus can report to - 22.5c or so... (freezing point). This means that the problem has to do with bioses not being able to handle the extreme temperature.
Chances of them fixing it... slim to none. I don't even think most of newcastle temp issue back from old core is even fixed on most mobo. I finally throw my towel now that I've tried 3 different boards (5 in total).
People with Mach I might not have as much problem as I did with ASUS though... mine is R404'd thus... can't work with this crap.
Some times, too much is just a little too much.
PS) In retrospect, this could be diode in CPU working in conjunction with bios. I am gueesing when it goes beyond bios limit, there is somekind of link missing between CPU and diode... thus erroring out is my logical guess.
esoteradactyl: was there a difference in stepping between the CPU's that worked and didn't? or even different weeks? mine here is a CBBFD 0432 and it dont work. mine makes it to windows then freezes under LS. Somtimes rebooting, mostly not. and again only under LS.
anyone else with similar stepping or week? or could this just be any random CPU?
0437 doesn't work either.