Turtletraxs' "Go Broke" TJ-07 Dual Loop

Hey fellas.

This is my first buildlog, but I felt I should start one even if it not from the start.

Allot of the parts that I have are from my old machine that I had that consisted of a HE 120.3 internal in a Armor (I know I know:down:) with a PA 120.2 hanging off the back. I had 2xPetra topped DDC-2's and MC-Res Micro's. For Waterblocks I had a D-Tek Fuzion V1 and a EK 8800GTX FC block. The HE ran on the Proc and the PA the 8800GTX. I had no chipset or mosfet blocks and will not on this build either.

I hated the case so much, for so long that I finally snapped and got a TJ-07 on a good sale, but it did not come with a window, and now I regret that, so I think I will source a window side out (most likely direct from Silverstone).

So what I have hardware wise from the old build first.

DFI P35-T2R
G.Skill 2x2 PC2-8000
Auzen Prelude or Xonar D2X (not sure which one to use, the Plelude is a thinner card widthwise, might make tubing easier)
Raptor 150
Plextor DVD-RW

Now for what I have purchased for the new build.

Corsair HX-1000
XFX GTX 280 Vanilla
Silverstone TJ-07 and 4in3 Adaptor
EK Supreme
EK Mutioption 250 x 2
EK-FC280 GTX
M-Cubed BigNG
Feser Xchanger double and triple rads
Sanyo Denki San Ace 120mm fan x 7 (thanks utnorris :up:)
Bitspower rotary 90 degree black sparkle x4
Bitspower 1/2" - 3/4" compression fittings x4
Primochill 1/2" Black tubing
Assorted sleeving and finnishing gear.
EDIT: Stuff recently purchased.
Corasir Dominator TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF
EK GTX 280 RAM Cooler
Asus Maximus Formula II


On to some pics...

Feser love :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0378.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0380.jpg

Buck naked GTX 280

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0337.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0341.jpg

Blocking up

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0349.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0345.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0347.jpg

Finnished product

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0354.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0354.jpg

Pump and fan controll :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0363.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0370.jpg

Not much else to show right now. I have most everything sleeved and have to wait for the fittings to show. I also have to cut the holes for cable management in the mobo tray, but I have cut a slot in the framing of the case so I can get the cables behind the mobo tray. I think I made it too small so may have to open it up more.

I need some ideas from you guys as I go, so expect lots of questions ;)

Thanks and good day!

Damon :up:

Nice, very clean.. and quite... go on

Nice work so far - love the TJ07!

Mine is currently in pieces all over the place waiting for my last couple of parts then I can start putting her back together - So I am very interested in what you do with this:up:

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Originally Posted by BND|MOD

Nice, very clean.. and quite... go on

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Thanks! Will do :up:

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Originally Posted by Dangals

Nice work so far - love the TJ07!

Mine is currently in pieces all over the place waiting for my last couple of parts then I can start putting her back together - So I am very interested in what you do with this:up:

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I am a huge Silverstone fan. I have the Silverstone Crown for my HTPC and I was hooked after that.


A couple more pics I thought I could add.

Res orientation

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0001-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0003.jpg

I am not sure if this is going to wirk out, but with the 4-3 adaptor what other poeple have done wont work. If this is a flop I will have to go nuts and mount them on the mobo side of the outer case, which will cause major delays and allot more work. Not that I am not willing to do it tho :)

Fillports

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_0002-1.jpg

I know a very bad pic. I will get a better one soon.


Rads & Pumps

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x/DSC_0005.jpg



More to come :)

Damn, and who said 2nd mortgages are over rated? Looks great so far. How do you like your Feser radiators? That rig is going to be packed, it'll be interesting to see your progress with it.

Thanks BA :D


I am not in a rush so it takes as much time as it takes to get it right. I will be showing as much as I can to get feedback and new ideas.

*Small update.

I did a flush or ten on the Feser 120.3 and hordes of what looked like paint flakes came out. I shaked untill I was short of breath and they kept coming out. I even hooked up a pump to see if that kind of flow would help, but it looks like it will be another marathon to get clean water coming out.

Damn, if it aint flux, it's paint. Jeepers....

Hope the 120.2 is cleaner :confused:

That res arrangement definitely caught my attention. I think it defeats the ease of bleeding of a tube-style res, tho. But it just looks so...cool.

You could have a rotary 90 on the end of each res, going down to the basement thru the existing holes. That would look very clean.

What color flakes from the rad?

Want to see more!:up:

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Originally Posted by Kibbler

That res arrangement definitely caught my attention. I think it defeats the ease of bleeding of a tube-style res, tho. But it just looks so...cool.

Want to see more!:up:

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Thanks. I saw it on a build where they were on top of a case and I liked it. I had fully planned to go verticle behind the optical cage, but my 4in3 adaptor makes it almost impossible and I LOVE the way it looks from the front.

Necessity is the mother of invention so we will see where it takes me.

My other idea is to run them vertically on the outside of the case on the closed side, and drill and grommet the case and have tubes running out. I think that would look pretty sick too, but allot more work.

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The rad flakes were black and I am certain they were from painting. I should have taken a picture as some of them were quite large.

What are you using to cool the backside of the GTX?

I should be receiving my Feser 120.3 and I'll let you know if I see the same thing. Thanks for the heads up. I'd say keep the reservoirs in the case, gives it a cleaner look in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

What are you using to cool the backside of the GTX?

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Still up in the air on that. The full backside cooler is nowhere to be found in Canada and is alittle steep. Just the RAMplate is special order in Canada, so I guess I should get on figuring that out.

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Originally Posted by BlueAqua

I should be receiving my Feser 120.3 and I'll let you know if I see the same thing. Thanks for the heads up. I'd say keep the reservoirs in the case, gives it a cleaner look in my opinion.

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Ya, please do. Would be nice to know if this happens allot.

And I would like to keep the res's indoors, but time will tell what happens in time.:up:

Could not find the EK GTX 280 back in stock anywhere in Canada, so I ordered direct from EK. Hope it is fast :D

Nice looking build.

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Nice looking build.

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Thanks!

And BlueAqua, looks like the paint was much worse in the 120.3 rad than the 120.2. I just flushed the 120.2 and there was gunk in there, but it was not near as bad and much less of it was paint.

LMK hows yours cleans out for you :)

AWESOME my friend! Love how the build is turning out. How's that GTX 280 ? I bet one well Oced could break my 2 8800GTXs ? Have you had time to test it before going Wc ?

Anyway, looking forward for the final pics! Keep it up :)

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Originally Posted by Patriote

AWESOME my friend! Love how the build is turning out. How's that GTX 280 ? I bet one well Oced could break my 2 8800GTXs ? Have you had time to test it before going Wc ?

Anyway, looking forward for the final pics! Keep it up :)

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Hey! Great to see you on the forums!

Thanks for the kind words, it feels good to hear from a guy with such a monster :D

I had little time to test the GTX 280, but I did some. On air I reached 713/1600/2450, and with my RAM not maxed and my Q6600 at 3.6Ghz ,and no physX enabled drivers, I got 11,300 on 3DM Vantage. I did not run any other benches, so I have allot of ground to cover when this all goes online. I hope it is not too long or the GTX will be old school by then LOL

Hope to see you here more :up:

Very Nice job! Iam going to buy the same case as yours and i think is the best choice!

I want to ask you how you put the Radiator on the top of the case?

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Originally Posted by Lafas1987

Very Nice job! Iam going to buy the same case as yours and i think is the best choice!

I want to ask you how you put the Radiator on the top of the case?

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He's not installing any radiators in the top. The TJ07's space at the top for a radiator is limited. You would really have to have a thin radiator and thin fans for it to work well. The bottom of the chassis is ideal for radiators with very little modding.

Turtletrax, how do you plan to fix the radiators to the case?

How do you find the stock NB cooler performs on that board?

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Originally Posted by BlueAqua

He's not installing any radiators in the top. The TJ07's space at the top for a radiator is limited. You would really have to have a thin radiator and thin fans for it to work well. The bottom of the chassis is ideal for radiators with very little modding.

Turtletrax, how do you plan to fix the radiators to the case?

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BlueAqua is correct, not much room upstairs, so in the basement they go.

I am not going to hardmount the Rads. I am going to wedge them using Petra's GellStuff. That way they can be removed easily and no vibration will be transfered from the pumps to the case. I used this approch on my Armor and it worked surprisingly well. They are just suspended in jelly LOL.

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Originally Posted by cobra_kai

How do you find the stock NB cooler performs on that board?

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Most likely the only stock heatpipe on the market that works. A fantastic cooler on a fantastic board. :up:

@BlueAqua
Ok, I see my friend.
Ι Will place my radiator on the bottom and i thin all will be ok! :)

Hey m8 :) You know what i am thinking ? I am a bit tired of the look of my huge 18". I don't know why but i feel like modding stuff... So i thought why not get another case, like a full tower one and mod the hell outta it to make all my stuff fit into it! Anyway, i have to clean all the comp and loops. They might be clogged or something because temps are getting awful. Really... I used to get around 30c ~ IDLE @ 3.8Ghz this winter. Now i am getting 45c ~ IDLE @ 3.8Ghz! But it's summer outside. I even get BSOD from time to time and I'm sure it's related to temps. Anyway, so i was thinking of getting that same exact case you got m8. But i was wondering where and how i could hook 2 PA in that case ?

I also had a Lian-Li V2000B Plus in mind but really, i don't know.

Anyway, keep up the good work m8! This one will be a hell of a RIG :D

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Originally Posted by Patriote

Hey m8 :) You know what i am thinking ? I am a bit tired of the look of my huge 18". I don't know why but i feel like modding stuff... So i thought why not get another case, like a full tower one and mod the hell outta it to make all my stuff fit into it! Anyway, i have to clean all the comp and loops. They might be clogged or something because temps are getting awful. Really... I used to get around 30c ~ IDLE @ 3.8Ghz this winter. Now i am getting 45c ~ IDLE @ 3.8Ghz! But it's summer outside. I even get BSOD from time to time and I'm sure it's related to temps. Anyway, so i was thinking of getting that same exact case you got m8. But i was wondering where and how i could hook 2 PA in that case ?

I also had a Lian-Li V2000B Plus in mind but really, i don't know.

Anyway, keep up the good work m8! This one will be a hell of a RIG :D

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You can fit a 120.3 and a 120.2 in the bottom. I know there is a build log around where someone did it but I can't remember where. Do a search or check out the silverstone showcase thread.

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Originally Posted by Patriote

Hey m8 :) You know what i am thinking ? I am a bit tired of the look of my huge 18". I don't know why but i feel like modding stuff... So i thought why not get another case, like a full tower one and mod the hell outta it to make all my stuff fit into it! Anyway, i have to clean all the comp and loops. They might be clogged or something because temps are getting awful. Really... I used to get around 30c ~ IDLE @ 3.8Ghz this winter. Now i am getting 45c ~ IDLE @ 3.8Ghz! But it's summer outside. I even get BSOD from time to time and I'm sure it's related to temps. Anyway, so i was thinking of getting that same exact case you got m8. But i was wondering where and how i could hook 2 PA in that case ?

I also had a Lian-Li V2000B Plus in mind but really, i don't know.

Anyway, keep up the good work m8! This one will be a hell of a RIG :D

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That would be sweet. The TJ-07 is a solid case and I think it will work out fine, but the problem starts with Thermochill BSPP threads, and finding good elbows in Canada. I got sick of looking and trying to use half baked solutions and said screw it and went Feser. I dont think I will be going back to Thermochill either. With all the awesome products coming out as fars as "normal" threading goes, I see no need to have a UK standard thread in my system to screw stuff up.

So after the switch I got some Bitspower 1/2" compression fittings and then got the new Bitspower black sparkle 1/2" rotary 90's for the rads and that should have all my issues sorted out.

I am still waiting for the rotary's, my San Ace fans, EK GTX 280 top and I think that is it. Then I can get busy on planning the loop. I am working on the plans now so I dont have to do it all when the time comes.