[First Look] AMD / ATI RV770 vs. NVIDIA G92-R700 ready

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AMD / ATI RV770 Versus NVIDIA G92 advantage

AMD Radeon HD 4800 series in the upcoming occasion, announced RV770 comparison with the G92 under the specifications of advantages, including carrying GDDR5 memory, DirectX 10.1, 55-nanometer GPU, PCI-E2.0, UVD2 technology, PowerPlayer energy saving energy , Integrated HDMI video output, it is undeniable that, Radeon HD 4800 series of hardware features of the leading NVIDIA G92, regardless of costs such as AMD took the lead in the Radeon HD 4870 allocation of Qimonda GDDR5 memory, support more rapid frequency, more Such advantages as low power consumption, but after all, just a technical announcement significance than actual sales help, on the other hand, it also highlights the NVIDIA card technology for the forward-looking than AMD, for marketing will be part of a degree of help, and then Who UVD2 for VC-1, MPEG-2, H.264 high-definition video decoder rate has exceeded NVIDIA PureVideo HD technology.

However, some features are not immediately present advantages, such as the use of DirectX 10.1, among the game Shaodikelian support this technology, NVIDIA for PC GAME has been holding important part of the initiative, the latest assassins creed on the game because of NVIDIA Pressure, it will release updates the original DirectX 10.1 effect to DirectX 10, in other words, technical support DirectX 10.1 is still greater than the actual significance of technology announced sales help, but contribute to AMD's marketing strategy practices.
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R700 more high-end desktop card early

As NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280,260 has not yet officially released, AMD estimates in the third quarter of the targeted products were not competitive, these two products included in the relevant third party said, Radeon HD 4800 series of no less than the opponent At the same level products, from the list can still see the Radeon HD 4870 listing makes NVIDIA GeForce 9800GX2 not faced pressure on the prices, the official associated Radeon HD 4850 sales, also for the current other GeForce 9800 sales prices need to take follow-up strategy, For these consumers, is a multi-Dali.
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Expected to be launched Radeon HD 4870X2, 4850X2

AMD also notice Radeon HD 4800 series was published, is expected to be introduced as the single Radeon HD 3870X2 cards dual-core products, product, code-named R700, the relevant third party said that at present, although provisional, respectively Radeon HD 4870X2, 4850X2, the total memory capacity Up to 1 GB, but there are also only introduced Radeon HD 4850X2, in any case, it appears that the second half of 2008, ATI and NVIDIA's GPU battle will be intense.

Radeon HD 4800 Series Specifications
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I better save up and get a Q9450 and a RV770 XT then :D

this si compared to g92 though so its really BS.... why dont they compare their $500 at launch 3870x2 to the 9800gx2 ..... or their $300 at launch 3870 to the 8800gt... i want a 4870 gddr5 dont get me wrong but this comparison is STUPID

And I want 1GB, :banana::banana::banana::banana: those 512MB.

don't we have sticked official threads for these topic??

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Originally Posted by Rattle

this si compared to g92 though so its really BS.... why dont they compare their $500 at launch 3870x2 to the 9800gx2 ..... or their $300 at launch 3870 to the 8800gt... i want a 4870 gddr5 dont get me wrong but this comparison is STUPID

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I don't get what you're trying to say......why would a marketing slide comparing R6xx products to G9x products? It's a slide deck to promote price and performance advantage of the R7XX over their competitors as well as how the new product stack replace old R6XX series.

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Originally Posted by Rattle

this si compared to g92 though so its really BS.... why dont they compare their $500 at launch 3870x2 to the 9800gx2 ..... or their $300 at launch 3870 to the 8800gt... i want a 4870 gddr5 dont get me wrong but this comparison is STUPID

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How can they compare it to a product that isn't launched? Nvidia is doing the same thing in their press comparisons, comparing to their own and ATI's current generation.

FFS, Good lord, show us some mercy ppl

Edit: Just gave this marketing cr*p a quick look.
I refuse to comment on this cr*ppy marketing campaign, be it nVIDIA's, AMD's, Intel's, Matrox's, etc.

Hmm, any one else find it extremely strange that the rv770pro consumes 50w less than the rv770xt? I wonder if the 4850 will have a partially disabled rv770 die unlike the 3850 as the rv770 will be far more competitive

Why would you compare those radeon hd4xxx cards to g92 based cards?
Isn't gt200 it's competitor?

The RV770 Pro using 50W less is supposedly due to the clocks being much lower this time around for them

R700 is compared to GT200, the others are at the mainstream/performance levels where G92 is priced at right now

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Originally Posted by zerazax

The RV770 Pro using 50W less is supposedly due to the clocks being much lower this time around for them

R700 is compared to GT200, the others are at the mainstream/performance levels where G92 is priced at right now

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lower clocks + lower volts to run at those clocks i think

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Originally Posted by triple_A

Why would you compare those radeon hd4xxx cards to g92 based cards?
Isn't gt200 it's competitor?

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GT200 competitoris R700 (dual die single pcb)

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Originally Posted by triple_A

Why would you compare those radeon hd4xxx cards to g92 based cards?
Isn't gt200 it's competitor?

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Exactly... this is a silly comparison. :up:

They're not even in the same price brackets and how would you compare it with a card you havent even tested or seen?

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Originally Posted by zerazax

The RV770 Pro using 50W less is supposedly due to the clocks being much lower this time around for them

R700 is compared to GT200, the others are at the mainstream/performance levels where G92 is priced at right now

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Still not really possible for just clocks to influence the power consumption that much, especially since gddr5 hardly consumes any power, and that at most we're looking at a 300mhz differential in clocks, that wouldn't drive up power consumption that much for the 4870. There has to either be more to it or ATI's numbers are way off

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Originally Posted by zerazax

They're not even in the same price brackets and how would you compare it with a card you havent even tested or seen?

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simple, you don't ...

Life can be so freaking simple :D

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Originally Posted by jas420221

Exactly... this is a silly comparison. :up:

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they compare it to the same price range available on the market, can't compare to a unreleased product :rolleyes:

4870 msrp is around 300$, so they compare it to the 9800 gtx i don't see the problem with this, once gt 260 is in this price bracket amd is going to lower price to g92 niveau or compare it to the gt260 :shrug:

sure it's marketing slides but they don't really lie with these slides and righ now it's a normal comparison (a little bit biased but better than most other marketing slides like sony claiming that the rsx is faster than xenos or amd telling people that barcelona pwns because it got t3h spec scores or intel showing its 4ghz pentium 4 which was supposed to pwn any amd chip :rolleyes: )

And thats what they did, they didn't compare it to GT200, but compared it to G92 a card that does exist out there that can be compared to

I thought that the 3870 was supposed to be 1GB?

the chart in a way does make sense, by the time nvidia releases their 260 and 280, ati would have the 4850x2 and 4870x2 to compete with them.

these are not good. lol look at the pictures charts whatever just look at them they are totally nonsense. something is wrong with this.

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Originally Posted by AliG

Still not really possible for just clocks to influence the power consumption that much, especially since gddr5 hardly consumes any power, and that at most we're looking at a 300mhz differential in clocks, that wouldn't drive up power consumption that much for the 4870. There has to either be more to it or ATI's numbers are way off

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Higher voltage combined with much faster clocks can easily cause that difference.

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Originally Posted by Monkeywoman

the chart in a way does make sense, by the time nvidia releases their 260 and 280, ati would have the 4850x2 and 4870x2 to compete with them.

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But they won't, ATI will not release the r700 cards until July as they plan to tweak their drivers based on the gtx 280's impact on the market (probably meaning whether to place emphasis on power consumption or performance)

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Originally Posted by kromosto

these are not good. lol look at the pictures charts whatever just look at them they are totally nonsense. something is wrong with this.

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Doesn't mean that at all, we had just about nothing on the rv670 and g92 until like a week or two before launch, and they were fine. Besides, nvidia continued to brag about g80 for over a year because they could get more sales through doing so. That will always happen and so don't bother taking what they mean into consideration. What tells us the most (until we see benchmarks) is the MSRP, as that should give a good estimation of performance

Unfortunately they're erroneous as well, because the 9800GTX & the 9800GX2 feature HDMI ( with audio output of course ).
Second, how come having a card with GDDR5 with lower performance than the competitors card with GDDR3 is an advantage ?
Especially when that advantage is lost when using AA/AF, which is where the GPU needs memory bandwidth the most ? :D
The G92 cards are also HDCP capable ( AMD says they're not :D ).
Best HD Video experience ? Huh ? We'll see. Unless they're speaking about tests with the default drivers settings for both cards then yes...but hey, ATi has both Noise Reduction and that color enhancement feature ( I can't remember it's marketing gimmick name, sorry ) enabled, while nVIDIA has them both disabled by default.

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As NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280,260 has not yet officially released, AMD estimates in the third quarter of the targeted products were not competitive, these two products included in the relevant third party said, Radeon HD 4800 series of no less than the opponent At the same level products, from the list can still see the Radeon HD 4870 listing makes NVIDIA GeForce 9800GX2 not faced pressure on the prices, the official associated Radeon HD 4850 sales, also for the current other GeForce 9800 sales prices need to take follow-up strategy, For these consumers, is a multi-Dali.

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Say what ? :D
Spick inglisch ? :p:

P.S. First look ? LOL.
Next time call it "review" lol :D

I guess in this way, a teenage boy starring at his d*ck for the first time is "First look at sex" ? :D

The AA issue is supposed to be fixed with RV770