Some QX9650 results with MSI P35D3 Platinum, STT DDR3 1600 and 2-Stage Cascade

So, I've received this motherboard along with 4x1GB of DDR3 from one of our hardware distributors.

First of all, I've tried the combo under Grosse Bertha 3-stager but something's gone weird under lets say -120C and at -130C saving bios parameters became very difficult. Also, I was require to turn off 3rd stage each time I needed to reboot. I think there is a motherboard cold-boot at about -120C. It happened once under the smaller unit.

Nevermind, I'll try it again, but to gather preliminary stuff, I've used the Petite Bertha 2-Stager ("Petite" because R1150 evaporating pressure during benching time is 'only' ~0.49bar which means about -115C :rolleyes: )

Here are the results.

M/B：MSI P35D3 Platinum
CPU：Intel Core Extreme QX9650 L739A643
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade "Petite Bertha"
Memory：Super Talent PC3-8500F 1024MBx2
VGA：Jaton 7600GS
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：Antec TP 550W
Vcore：1.932V(Bios), 1.91V(CPU-Z idle)
Vdimm：2.25V(Bios)
NB Voltage：1.65V(Bios)
OS：Windows Server 2003 (numproc=2)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8...5782mhzbg3.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=285986

As you can see the performance isn't very good... Bandwidth is too low. I've tried to improve it in looking into the MCHBAR and succeeded. But not enough, something else is needed.

M/B：MSI P35D3 Platinum
CPU：Intel Core Extreme QX9650 L739A643
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade "Petite Bertha"
Memory：Super Talent PC3-8500F 1024MBx4
VGA：Jaton 7600GS
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：Antec TP 550W
Vcore：1.925V(Bios), 1.84V-1.896V(CPU-Z load-idle)
Vdimm：2.25V(Bios)
NB Voltage：1.65V(Bios)
OS：Windows Server 2003 (numproc=2; maxmem=4096)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6...i1m8281dj1.png

M/B：MSI P35D3 Platinum
CPU：Intel Core Extreme QX9650 L739A643
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade "Petite Bertha"
Memory：Super Talent PC3-8500F 1024MBx4
VGA：Jaton 7600GS
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：Antec TP 550W
Vcore：1.916V(Bios), 1.808V-1.872V(CPU-Z load-idle)
Vdimm：2.25V(Bios)
NB Voltage：1.65V(Bios)
OS：Windows Server 2003 (numproc=2)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4...9m15922oq0.png

Despite of the crappy bandwidth, this board isn't too bad; I mean, Vcore can be set up to 2.01V bios (Vdroop is awful anyway; the need for a mod is critical); and memory stability is pretty good even with 4x1GB.

Thanks for reading. :toast:

nice.. Petite Bertha POWA! :D

Looks good, but sad about the vdroop, and like your also says, seems to scale okay with 4x1gb.

How much vdroop is there?.

Keep pushing it.

Great chip, great cooling and great clocker!:clap:
Very impressive results:up:

Will you test the chip also on Grosse Bertha?:D

nice before

You've got forget your P5B dlx :p:
Nice times on MSI ,i'm waiting for the sub 8s at Pi1M now :D
Keep pushing it. Maybee with "grosse bertha" and an other mobo.
Yes ,P35 coldboot :( my DS4 at the same temperature .

close the neck , QX9650 , be left only two the neck brights ,:up:
do ? ( yes sir ) ,

Nice results :up: Waiting patiently to see how will it perform with the Vcore mod though ... :D Just kidding ;) :p:

Keep pushing it ! :clap:

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Originally Posted by eva2000

nice.. Petite Bertha POWA! :D

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Yeah! :D Thx George.

There's a small leak into 2nd stage BTW. I need to fix it. Also, I'm gonna remove the CPEV and use captube only.

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Originally Posted by Oliver

Looks good, but sad about the vdroop, and like your also says, seems to scale okay with 4x1gb.

How much vdroop is there?.

Keep pushing it.

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Vdroop depends on Vcore; the higher the Vcore, the higher the Vdroop... 1.92V Bios corresponds to 1.81V during Spi 32M.

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Originally Posted by nachthymnen

Great chip, great cooling and great clocker!:clap:
Very impressive results:up:

Will you test the chip also on Grosse Bertha?:D

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Thank you ;)

I've retried this evening; but Grosse Bertha is definitely too cold... :(

Even after loading windows at 5460MHz @2.01v, I can't manage to do something good...

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Originally Posted by marcolecorse

nice before

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Thx :toast:

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Originally Posted by redratamd

You've got forget your P5B dlx :p:
Nice times on MSI ,i'm waiting for the sub 8s at Pi1M now :D
Keep pushing it. Maybee with "grosse bertha" and an other mobo.
Yes ,P35 coldboot :( my DS4 at the same temperature .

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I need another mobo... :(

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Originally Posted by PonDTranG

close the neck , QX9650 , be left only two the neck brights ,:up:
do ? ( yes sir ) ,

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Thank you ;)

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Originally Posted by George_o/c

Nice results :up: Waiting patiently to see how will it perform with the Vcore mod though ... :D Just kidding ;) :p:

Keep pushing it ! :clap:

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I'll do some work on the 2 stager to continue. I think I've found something to reduce the Vdroop.

Well benched, Before, but I'm expecting better scores when you have found another motherboard :D

Great work :D

Now that 1M Superpi is REALLY FAST.
You must have done some evil Tweaking and The DDR3 must give some effect to ?

COOL :D

Nice Xavier,
I've calculated your Pi-product, its 46241, which is quite good with yorkie, close on the japanies guys at around 45500...

I have to ask you... maxmem=4096, thats should be the exact same effect as not setting an max mem? How comes you've configurated it?

Your sticks are D9GTR, right? Any chance of getting GTS?? It'll sure aid your result, however, not a bad word about your sticks, seems very equal to the ones I use..... Havnt got a yorkie tho'

EDIT:
Allowing myself to answer one question...
Yes, DDR3 benefits quite a bit, I belive its around 2000-3500 in average Pi product...

Hello before
Do you have some time in noel ?
I would like to go to Aix-en-Provence to meet you with my QX9650es roxxx....

We can put it to your cascade ? ...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=170588

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

EDIT:
Allowing myself to answer one question...
Yes, DDR3 benefits quite a bit, I belive its around 2000-3500 in average Pi product...

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In 32M DDR3 is quite faster than DDR2, in 1M not and definitly not 2000-3000 in PP. I've seen a lot of people hit 45k performance product with DDR2 and these were not übertweakers :)

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Originally Posted by massman

Well benched, Before, but I'm expecting better scores when you have found another motherboard :D

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Yeah... :D Thx ;) I'll have the opportunity to test something different in few days.

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Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu

Great work :D

Now that 1M Superpi is REALLY FAST.
You must have done some evil Tweaking and The DDR3 must give some effect to ?

COOL :D

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Thank you buddy. May be you're right, but I find these scores to be kinda slow because of the motherboard bandwidth (or problem to deal with Yorky L2 cache). :)

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

Nice Xavier,
I've calculated your Pi-product, its 46241, which is quite good with yorkie, close on the japanies guys at around 45500...

I have to ask you... maxmem=4096, thats should be the exact same effect as not setting an max mem? How comes you've configurated it?

Your sticks are D9GTR, right? Any chance of getting GTS?? It'll sure aid your result, however, not a bad word about your sticks, seems very equal to the ones I use..... Havnt got a yorkie tho'

EDIT:
Allowing myself to answer one question...
Yes, DDR3 benefits quite a bit, I belive its around 2000-3500 in average Pi product...

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Thanks ;) maxmem=4096 is for that

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1...8281bisoe2.png

Dunno if it helps or not; just testing. Looks like what OPB and those who tried his CDT method wanted to do. So maxmem can do it way better. I think it's working while you try to force windows to use more memory than what it can do.

About the chips used for the memory modules; I've got no clue.. :p: .

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Originally Posted by K.J.

Hello before
Do you have some time in noel ?
I would like to go to Aix-en-Provence to meet you with my QX9650es roxxx....

We can put it to your cascade ? ...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=170588

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lol No; not before the second week of January. Good luck Kenny :up:

Nice cpu before and also nice benches as always... :toast:

Im still having lots of problem with mine running her on the DFI P35, very similar to what you went through using the P5B... but so far its looking good with -125c coldboot and ~ 145c coldbug at idle...

Should have clicked one more time in setfsb lol....
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10062/normal_5780.jpg

Looks good luihed and lol, one more time in setfsb.

Keep pushing it.

Still playing. :)

Results aren't fast as they're supposed to be. Memory read bandwidth seems me a bit low. I can't figure out what to do in order to improve it. :confused: Also, dunno if that's revealant or not, but Everest is unable to run L2 cache. May be, there's a matter with the board and its 45nm support.

M/B：MSI P35D3 Platinum
CPU：Intel Core Extreme QX9650 L739A643
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade "Petite Bertha" (Evap pressure set to ~0.55bar; i.e. about -113C)
Memory：Super Talent PC3-8500F 1024MBx2
VGA：Jaton 7600GS
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：Antec TP 550W
Vcore：1.976V(Bios)
Vdimm：2.41V(Bios)
NB Voltage：1.65V(Bios)
OS：Windows Server 2003 (numproc=2; maxmem=600)
Misc.: Boot clocks 416FSBx13.5

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1...i1m8235cj2.png

M/B：MSI P35D3 Platinum
CPU：Intel Core Extreme QX9650 L739A643
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade "Petite Bertha" (Evap pressure set to ~0.55bar; i.e. about -113C)
Memory：Super Talent PC3-8500F 1024MBx2
VGA：Jaton 7600GS
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：Antec TP 550W
Vcore：1.914V(Bios)
Vdimm：2.41V(Bios)
NB Voltage：1.65V(Bios)
OS：Windows Server 2003 (numproc=2; maxmem=600)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2...8m59079xt6.png

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7...5490mhzxh4.png

Nice benching before...

Do you ever check how much the temp rises during load from idle? My temp just shoots up quite a bit even with 1M, way more than it did with C2D.... Not sure if thats just the quads are or I got a bad mount, worst yet maybe my container suck.....

Tres bien mon ami :D

How the MSI hold the vcore the QX9650 with 4 cores enable, to many vdrop??

And how your cascade hold the heat with 4 cores enable ??

And what about cold boot / cold bug ??

Have you tried 1 core enabled?

Good work.

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Originally Posted by luihed

Nice benching before...

Do you ever check how much the temp rises during load from idle? My temp just shoots up quite a bit even with 1M, way more than it did with C2D.... Not sure if thats just the quads are or I got a bad mount, worst yet maybe my container suck.....

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Thx ;)

Evap pressure of the R1150 is set to about 0.55bar which corresponds to -113C, no matter the load thx to the CPEV. In fact, it only varies within 0.5 to 0.6bar (-115C to -112C).

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Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

Tres bien mon ami :D

How the MSI hold the vcore the QX9650 with 4 cores enable, to many vdrop??

And how your cascade hold the heat with 4 cores enable ??

And what about cold boot / cold bug ??

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Obrigado! :toast:

Vdroop is a real problem even with 2 cores. That MSI allows for very high bios settings (up to 2.01v), but loaded Vcore is about 0.1v less. A Vdroop mod is needed. :) Also, the board won't boot under 3 stage cascade under lets say -130C. BTW the chip is also out of breath at this level of temperature. I think -115C to -120C is the best interval.

I didn't try the cascade on hard 3D benching with 4 cores enable, but will do it next week. :D

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Originally Posted by Omastar

Have you tried 1 core enabled?

Good work.

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Thx ;)

No; but core1 is better than core0 for benching.

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Originally Posted by before

Thx ;)

Evap pressure of the R1150 is set to about 0.55bar which corresponds to -113C, no matter the load thx to the CPEV. In fact, it only varies within 0.5 to 0.6bar (-115C to -112C).
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petite bertha can -115 ???
impressive
and +@5700 with cascade is very good

Yeah; a bit too cold sometimes. 0.4bar, i.e. -118C is too cold to boot. Pressure is usually within 0.6 to 0.8bar (-112C to -107.5C) during 3D load.

Here are some of my last benchies with this board. I did them with my friend boblemaginifque during the past few days. We also did better stuff with an ES board... :p:

M/B：MSI P35D3 Platinum
CPU：Intel Core Extreme QX9650 L739A643
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade "Petite Bertha" (Evap pressure set to ~0.7bar; i.e. about -110C)
Memory：Super Talent PC3-8500F 1024MBx2
VGA：Asus HD3870x2
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：OCZ 1000W
Vcore：1.95V(Bios)
Vdimm：2.41V(Bios)
NB Voltage：1.65V(Bios)
OS：Windows XP Pro 64Bits
Misc.: Boot clocks 423FSBx13

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6...0188072nt4.png

M/B：MSI P35D3 Platinum
CPU：Intel Core Extreme QX9650 L739A643
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade "Petite Bertha" (Evap pressure set to ~0.8bar; i.e. about -107.5C during CPU tests)
Memory：Super Talent PC3-8500F 1024MBx2
VGA：Asus HD3870x2
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：OCZ 1000W
Vcore：1.95V(Bios)
Vdimm：2.41V(Bios)
NB Voltage：1.65V(Bios)
OS：Windows XP Pro SP2
Misc.: Boot clocks 423FSBx13

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3...0532230fk7.png

M/B：MSI P35D3 Platinum
CPU：Intel Core Extreme QX9650 L739A643
CPU cooling：2 Stage Cascade "Petite Bertha"
Memory：Super Talent PC3-8500F 1024MBx2
VGA：Asus HD3870x2
HDD：Western Digital 80GB
Power Supply：OCZ 1000W
Vcore：1.875V(Bios)
Vdimm：2.41V(Bios)
NB Voltage：1.65V(Bios)
OS：Windows XP Pro 64Bits
Misc.: Boot clocks 390FSBx13.5

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/261...0620773er6.png

nice job before
i am shocked you were able to overclock these at all considering how :banana::banana::banana::banana: they were last time we tried it a few months ago

i guess new bios probably helps as neither that nor X38 board would even boot with QX9650 heh