this new Conroe is realy all that?

ive been out of the loop for about a year maybe more ive been waiting on chilly1 and gang to get my phasechange back up and runnig so i havent been overclocking or even using whats left of my pc. just want some input before i start this next build problem is ive let my self self go to long everythings changed...

now from what ive been reading these past few months amd is not the best choice anymore? i think think this sucks and realy would like to pick up with where i left off using the amd dual cores.now this x2 3600 / x2 4000 look awsome and the price omg!! these dont compare to intel atlest price wise? not trying to start an amd vrs intel here. infact this is my first day at the site doing some serios reading about the new rig. and plan on reading everything and all i can find on the subject just to get cought up. so im off to read and sory for the hyjack.. thr switch from amd to the conroe is it even worth it? sorry to sound so stupid i realy plan on hitting the web pages and every page in this site that will help...

thx perc

It sure is. But in some years, AMD will probably be on top again. It's the same with nVidia and ATi. Sometimes nVidia is better, sometimes not. The rule would probably be to buy what's best at the current time being, or, what suits you the best.

is cd2 faster than k8, yes by how much, not much. lol.

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is cd2 faster than k8, yes by how much, not much. lol.

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:shrug: Whatever you need to tell yourself?

Chris, its not that great..... My 6300 isnt very much faster than my 4400. Overclocking tho, it is. My 4400 only did about 3 GHz, this chip does about 3.4GHz. but stock for stock, you defiantly wont notice a difference. I'm defiantly going back to AMD once 6000 comes in stock.

~Mike

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I guess C2D being 25% faster clock for clock isn't "that much" to you.

But to the TC, get whatever that suits your needs, don't let fanboys make your decision.

The X2 3600+ is awesome for the price but if you're willing to spend more, an E6300 is great too.

hahahaha.... fanboys... :-) Don't let them intel fanboys persuade you to go to the dark side.

;-)

~Mike

I own both.. but then again, I can. I'm also not 100% happy with my Conroe. I am with my AMD's tho, I can run 100% load with my AMD's without my mouse glitching all over the place. I cant do that with my Intel rig.

Also, I don't suggest anybody buy anything from ANY company until summer time. It wouldn't be a smart idea.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773

YES IT IN STOCK!!! Ordering now!

System is at stock :-) 1.86 GHz

~Mike

Yes, but can we still blame it on intel? PLEASE... LOL

yeah I got the 680i. But eVGA is super nice and overnighting me the new revision. which I'm going to sell because the 6000+ is in stock, and I'd rather have AMD. I like the shut down feature of AMD's motherboard. Where it locks up or shuts down instead of mouse glitching.

~Mike

LOL. I just happen to be able to spend 10,000 if I want... I did VERY good this last year. :-)

Also, I don't hate Intel, I just don't agree with what they did to me. Which is why i'm in a lawsuit with them. When the K5's were out and stuff, I had one, not because it was faster than Intel or whatever, but because of what Intel did to me and the fact it was cheaper(I was poor back then).

It would be like, If you want to a restaurant and you ordered up a 16 Oz New York Steak, you get it and it for instance has a big :banana::banana::banana: loogy in it. you can defiantly tell, because you can see the nice green mucussy texture. So the waiter, you say, Someone spit in my food, and the waiter says, "So... who cares."

Thats what Intel did to some of us small computer shop people. They hauked a loogy in out 16 Oz Steak, They didn't even say whoops or sorry. Once I get my 1.5 million from them, Ill be less biased. Everything will be flowers, raindrops and sugarcane fields.

~Mike

I upgraded from a dual core X2 @ 2.7 (939) to my current setup e6400 @ 3.6.

If you are purchasing a new mobo I would suggest conroe over an AM2.

which one?

never played supreme commander, so I cannot comment on it.

~Mike

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It sure is. But in some years, AMD will probably be on top again. It's the same with nVidia and ATi. Sometimes nVidia is better, sometimes not. The rule would probably be to buy what's best at the current time being, or, what suits you the best.

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I do not think so. The one thing Intel has going for it is it's financial and physical resources. Intel can innovate, and produce a large amount of chips in a sort period of time. Intel was caught with their pants down 5+ years ago. they've made a great turnaround.

I did purchase dual Athlon chips to build my first system. Will be going C2D soon.

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Chris, its not that great..... My 6300 isnt very much faster than my 4400. Overclocking tho, it is. My 4400 only did about 3 GHz, this chip does about 3.4GHz. but stock for stock, you defiantly wont notice a difference. I'm defiantly going back to AMD once 6000 comes in stock.

~Mike

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Great , trade your 40w chip for a 125w one with the same performance.Brilliant... :stick:

c2d is faster in most apps , in some heaps faster. I personally wouldn't touch intel (bad experience with there rma) but they seem to be better for most applications. With AM2 you can upgrade to Barcelona when its available which could be till the end of the year who knows, really it comes down to your budget, and what you need. And is you like to PLAY super Pi :P

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Great , trade your 40w chip for a 125w one with the same performance.Brilliant... :stick:

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You mean the E6300 has the same performance as the 6000+?

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And don't let them AMD fanbois make you think you have to buy from just ONE company. :nono: :slapass:

Buy what you want, but know the facts. FACT is AMD has nothing as fast as C2D and will NOT be releasing their response to it until "late summer" (from the mouth of their CEO yesterday).

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sigh , you know I have been following alot of the AMD threads lately and it seems all you are doing is tooting your own horn. I dont post much but I couldnt hold back this time. This IS an AMD section. Yes we all know that Conroe is faster than AMD but most of it is number crunching. A decently overclocked AMD rig plays any and every game out there just fine. So what if you are pulling 11 sec Superpi , most of us dont run Superpi each day. To each his own. It seems to me that YOU have something to reassure yourself. We are not misguiding anyone here but has it occured to you that we might , just might , prefer AMD ?? Not to mention the price/performance ratio for AMD is simply AMAZING right now ?? Yes you can get a conroe and overclock it to god knows what speeds but how much would you be paying for the motherboard ?? A lot more than an equivalently equipped decent clocking mobo for AMD .
Then comes the argument that you simply ARE comparing this generation's cpu against AMD's last generation CPU. Surprisingly you are coming off just as bad a fanboi as you so allegedly call others. You have Conroe , great , go jump around with the other Intel users in the Intel section and stop flaming the AMD forums unless you have something substantial to contribute. :slap:

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sigh , you know I have been following alot of the AMD threads lately and it seems all you are doing is tooting your own horn. I dont post much but I couldnt hold back this time. This IS an AMD section. Yes we all know that Conroe is faster than AMD but most of it is number crunching. A decently overclocked AMD rig plays any and every game out there just fine. So what if you are pulling 11 sec Superpi , most of us dont run Superpi each day. To each his own. It seems to me that YOU have something to reassure yourself. We are not misguiding anyone here but has it occured to you that we might , just might , prefer AMD ?? Not to mention the price/performance ratio for AMD is simply AMAZING right now ?? Yes you can get a conroe and overclock it to god knows what speeds but how much would you be paying for the motherboard ?? A lot more than an equivalently equipped decent clocking mobo for AMD .
Then comes the argument that you simply ARE comparing this generation's cpu against AMD's last generation CPU. Surprisingly you are coming off just as bad a fanboi as you so allegedly call others. You have Conroe , great , go jump around with the other Intel users in the Intel section and stop flaming the AMD forums unless you have something substantial to contribute. :slap:

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Agree 100%:cool:

Well I am in the market to build a new system as well.

I'm just just not sure what I should get, AM2, 939 or the Conroe.

I am guessing the C2D > AM2 > 939

Being that AMD is still on it's last generation chips, the next generation chips will be using the AM2 socket; so in planning for future upgrades getting AM2 would probably be the best option, no?

Yes Skillz, AM2 would make more sense in your case.

I agree with brentpresley 100%. The OP asked about the C2D, heck it's in the title! That opens this thread up to Intel input -- it would be a disservice to the OP if there wasn't.

Maybe it would be a good idea if the mods moved the thread over to the Intel section given the title and the sensitive feelings here in the AMD section?

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Great , trade your 40w chip for a 125w one with the same performance.Brilliant... :stick:

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HArf harf harf... who cares? I personally dont. I'm just not very happy with my Intel setup. brilliant I cant use my :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing PS2 ports.. brilliant!

Merf:fact:

~Mike

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He SPECIFICALLY asked about Conroe. :stick:

HELLO!


EDIT - maybe a mod should move the thread?

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Yeah, Silly ass Intel people cant read... Post Intel questions in the AMD forums... hahaha ;-)

~Mike