AgenaFX ES CPUz screen shoots?

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/633/img1108pm8.jpg
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/4827/img1107uq4.jpg
soruce:http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/show...3&postcount=36

s7 said the pictures are fake

even thought they was taken with a Canon Canon DIGITAL IXUS 40 at 2007:01:31 23:20:42

the reason why they are fake take a look at how many threads

also look at the package and the name

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=305

Damn! And I thought that we were going to see some benchmarks soon!

i wish that they was , no one wants them to be real more then me

but i have to call what i see , or seem to see

i want to be wrong , but s7 called them fake , and i think that i have to take his word , besides what i seen in the pictures

Yeap, they are fake! Only stepping A are ES. Stepping B is for the market.

Opteron 1120? AM2? SSE3 and no SSE4?

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Originally Posted by brentpresley

Don't trust CPU-Z. It misses a lot of stuff until the authors update it.

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grab CPU-Z version 1.2 and it'll see AMD dual cores as Intel chips ;)

also, what's to say that stepping A wasn't a mistake and they needed another revision, rev B?

2.8 stock clock is hopeful though.

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Originally Posted by brentpresley

Don't trust CPU-Z. It misses a lot of stuff until the authors update it.

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Completely true.

Camera shots are extremely hard to fake. I personally believe it.

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Originally Posted by Shadowmage

Camera shots are extremely hard to fake. I personally believe it.

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he-he
i can simply make a program which will look like CPU-Z and be able to determine any future cpu architecture :D

but in tis case i beleive

it's time to see K8L "at work"

privet Lexagon'u ;)

if you go into that thread i linked to you will see other reasons why it is a fake , the numbers are not lined up corectly in the right spot

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Originally Posted by Shadowmage

Camera shots are extremely hard to fake. I personally believe it.

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Not that hard :)
And whether we like it or not, everything's possible.

P.S. Talking 'bout faked pics, when you just can't line-up things right you're in trouble.
Stup1d people faking pictures to get impressions/hits/clicks :slapass:

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Originally Posted by Shadowmage

Completely true.

Camera shots are extremely hard to fake. I personally believe it.

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Hard to fake a camera shot, but not hard to fake the image that the camera is looking at.

fake or not it is not important until we see a bench

L2 512K*2 ?

Kuma ES?

http://pic.xfastest.com/sxs112/AMD/AgenaFX%20ES/3.jpg

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Originally Posted by sxs112

L2 512K*2 ?

Kuma ES?

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or just mobo am2 with an old bios doesn't see second half of quadcore

To me it looks very real, but time will tell I guess. One other thing that is odd, L1 Data and L1 Code is supposed to be 32kb per core, so CPU-Z would have to show L1 Data: 2 x 32kb and L1 Code: 2 x 32kb, not 2 x 64kb for both. This is because Agena/Kuma/entire star series only has 32kb of L1 instruction cache and 32kb of L1 data cache per core, atleast that is what AMD has always told us.

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Originally Posted by Helmore

This is because Agena/Kuma/entire star series only has 32kb of L1 instruction cache and 32kb of L1 data cache per core, atleast that is what AMD has always told us.

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you are not right
K8L and K8 has equal L1 size == 64k code and 64k data

where did you find 32kb value? :confused:

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Originally Posted by MAS

you are not right
K8L and K8 has equal L1 size == 64k code and 64k data

where did you find 32kb value? :confused:

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Yup you are right, I stand corrected, now just forget that I said anything:p:. I got my information here and some other sourced which I couldn't easily find back, but as you can read here (and many more links) it seems that will "K8L" have 64kb of L1 instruction cache and 64kb of Data cache. They also state it as such:

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Originally Posted by RealWorldTech

The first significant disclosures regarding the K8L had to do with the cache hierarchy within a single core. Despite an erroneous rumor to the contrary at Daily Tech, the L1D and L1I caches remain at 64KB each, according to a senior architect at AMD. The floor plan of the K8L also tends to confirm that the L1 caches have not decreased in size. The K8L did experience some L2 cache shrinkage and initial parts will feature a 2MB shared L3 cache. Based on the cache sizes, the L2 cache is still exclusive of the L1 contents, and the L3 cache is certainly not inclusive (although this does not mean it is exclusive). Additionally, it is easy to deduce, based on information about the load/store units that the bus between the L1 and L2 caches has been widened to 256 bits. The L3 cache is extensible, and it seems likely that 4MB parts will come out, perhaps as a way to differentiate between low-end parts intended for 1-2 sockets, and the higher-end parts for 4-8 sockets.

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Faking a camera shot is allot easier then you think. Take a screen shot with CPU-z open, open the screen shot up in your favorite photo editing software, save the picture, set it as the background, then kill explorer. Not terribly hard.

At least we learned how to fake CPUz screen shots. Now, mods pls lock this useless thread.