Next-Gen AMD Motherboard Intro- MSI K9N SLI Platinum First Sight

the AMD K8 infrastructure leads the performance of CPU about 2 years, and we used to define Single/ Dual Channel memory by Socket 939/754.

In the 2nd half of year 2006, AMD introduces the new pin definition, which is called Socket AM2, has the 2 major differences;

The Socket AM2 will all support Dual Channel DDR2; and from the low-end Sempron to high-end FX. In this time, AMD achieve a united goal in infrastructure.





Let’s take a look of the leading role this time- the MSI K9N SLI Platinum, it’s somewhat different from the engineer sample released on internet before.
http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N1.JPG







the left-lower part of board.
The space between 2 PCI Express slots is very sufficient.
With 3 PCI v2.3 slots
Dual Gb LAN, 7.1 ch. HD Audio, and IEEE 1394 chip.
http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N2.JPG










the right-lower part of board.
6 SATA2 ports, support RAID 0, 1, 0+1
6 USB 2.0 ports
and Clear CMOS button
http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N3.JPG









the right-upper part of board.
4 DDR2 slots
IDE port and 24-pin power socket
http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N4.JPG












the part around CPU
there is heat sink on the MOSFET
the fastener base is different, but still can use 939/754 coolers, have to test to know the real usage situation.
http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N5.JPG










the back I/O
it has 4 USB 2.0 ports, dual LAN ports and 7.1ch. audio jack.
http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N6.JPG










it’s nForce 570 SLI chipset base, still the single chip

http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N7.JPG










the thermal solution of system chip
it use the copper bottom and wide range heat sink to reach the quiet requirement.

http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N8.JPG









Testing platform
CPU:AMD AM2 Althon64 X2 4800+
MB: MSI K9N SLI Platinum
DRAM: Wind DDRII 667 512MBX2
VGA: ELSA 6600GT
HD: Seagate 7200.7 80GB
POWER: ONYX 520W



CPU-Z at default 200MHz system bus and DDR2-800
http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/2400.jpg



the BIOS introduction of MSI K9N SLI Platinum is coming soon.
The performance benchmark is under testing for its limit, and cannot release the result right now.
The detail of performance test will come after.
Whatever, AM2 stands for the forward step of AMD, and we’ll look forward it available to the market.

sweet! cant wait :D

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Originally Posted by windwithme

The performance benchmark is under testing for its limit, and cannot release the result right now.
The detail of performance test will come after.

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Just give us a hint pls:

:up: or :down: ?

:D

Isn't am2 supposed to have pinless cpus? Why the holes in the socket then? :confused: Or am i the noob?

I'm guessing the performance wont be all that with DDRII-667 @ 400Mhz 5-5-5-15. You need good DDRII-800 to beat S939 with an AM2.

Nice to see some stuff working though!

why does it only have a 4pin cpu power connector?

and why does it say socket A? =\

I bet it says "AM2" once you lift the IO plate:p:

Overclock it and have fun! :toast: Can you set better RAM timings? :rolleyes:

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I'm guessing the performance wont be all that with DDRII-667 @ 400Mhz 5-5-5-15. You need good DDRII-800 to beat S939 with an AM2.

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I don´t think that this is an effective clock-rate, but more a physical one...someone uses very loose timings and 2T command rate for his screeny... ;)

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Originally Posted by itznfb

why does it only have a 4pin cpu power connector?

and why does it say socket A? =\

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socket AM2:)

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Originally Posted by windwithme

socket AM2:)

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that would make sense wouldn't it.

do you know why it doesn't have an 8pin connector for the cpu?

Yeah, I was going to point out AM2 as well. AM2 > M2. :cool: And that 400MHz speed is the actual clock, double that for the DDR rated speed of DDR2-800. :slap:

I like the clear CMOS button idea. Very overclocker friendly feature.
What I wanna know is why the bottom PCI slot is in different color? Also Windwithme can you tell us how many phase voltage regulations this board has?

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Originally Posted by SamHughe

I like the clear CMOS button idea. Very overclocker friendly feature.
What I wanna know is why the bottom PCI slot is in different color? Also Windwithme can you tell us how many phase voltage regulations this board has?

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The CMOS clear button has been around with MSI since 939. ;) Also, the orange slot has something to do with a wireless PCI slot (I forget the specifics, my s754 K8N Neo Platinum had it).

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Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde

And that 400MHz speed is the actual clock, double that for the DDR rated speed of DDR2-800. :slap:

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That´s not 100% correct as well...DDR2-800 has an internal clock of 200MHz (prefetch of 4!). But the memory-bus is clocked at 400MHz.

What Sound chip are they using and what about Ethernet and Firewire?

I would like to see some BIOS shots esp of the RAM settings. Also please give us you impression of how the board clocks. Thanks!

Most likely one of the newer Realtek High Def audio codecs for sound.. ALC885 I believe it would be.

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Originally Posted by Flox

I don´t think that this is an effective clock-rate, but more a physical one...someone uses very loose timings and 2T command rate for his screeny... ;)

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It doesnt matter since 667 is probably too slow, that was more or less my point here. You do need DDR2-800 speeds to make a difference with 939.

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Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde

And that 400MHz speed is the actual clock, double that for the DDR rated speed of DDR2-800. :slap:

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Could be me but I dont quite understand this post... It's DDR2-667 as stated by TS. But hey, I'm new to DDR2 so I guess it's true that this stuff is 4x HTT.

none of this makes sense, i thought the new platform would start as dd667, as in, 333x7.5

this 200x12 makes no sense, is it unlocked????

the fx-62 is supposed to be 400x7 is it not????

ddr2 isn't 4x, it's still 2x

please run super pi so we can do a compare :)

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Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

hmm, 200x12 w/ ddr @ 2-2-2-5 vs 200x12 w/ ddr2 @ 5-5-5-15, i'm guessin the ddr will win...


edit: well, now i'm really confused, cpu-z memory tab shows cpu/6..... so, that means he's running ram 1:2, or is cpuz not showing fsb/multiplier correctly?

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the memory bus is running at cpu/6.. for 400mhz. it makes sense ;)

deleted last post, reposting, edited it heavily...

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Originally Posted by metro.cl

please run super pi so we can do a compare :)

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hmm, 200x12 w/ ddr @ 2-2-2-5 vs 200x12 w/ ddr2 @ 5-5-5-15, i'm guessin the ddr will win...


well, now i'm really confused, cpu-z memory tab shows cpu/6..... so, that means he's running ram 1:2, or is cpuz not showing fsb/multiplier correctly?

forgive me for quoting LOTR, but, 'questions, questions that need answering'

no need to get into nda probs, but simple q's like, isn't the 4800x2 am2 processor supposed to be 333x7.5=2.5?
are you running your ram 1:2? Is your 4800 unlocked?

i reference... http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/

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Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

deleted last post, reposting, edited it heavily...


hmm, 200x12 w/ ddr @ 2-2-2-5 vs 200x12 w/ ddr2 @ 5-5-5-15, i'm guessin the ddr will win...


well, now i'm really confused, cpu-z memory tab shows cpu/6..... so, that means he's running ram 1:2, or is cpuz not showing fsb/multiplier correctly?

forgive me for quoting LOTR, but, 'questions, questions that need answering'

no need to get into nda probs, but simple q's like, isn't the 4800x2 am2 processor supposed to be 333x7.5=2.5?
are you running your ram 1:2? Is your 4800 unlocked?

i reference... http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/

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am2 cpus still calculate like 200xmulti
multi is downwards unlocked on normal series, fx is completely unlocked.

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Originally Posted by metro.cl

am2 cpus still calculate like 200xmulti
multi is downwards unlocked on normal series, fx is completely unlocked.

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lol, if that's true, what a waste..... although i guess that is supposed to be the point of am2, purely a switch to ddr2

and i know only fx are supposed to be completely unlocked, was asking about HIS cpu, as it pertained to the 333vs200fsb question...

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Originally Posted by JasonDTM

Most likely one of the newer Realtek High Def audio codecs for sound.. ALC885 I believe it would be.

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meh.. I was hoping for something with more power.. but I guess they are trying to keep the price down at first.

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Originally Posted by nn_step

meh.. I was hoping for something with more power.. but I guess they are trying to keep the price down at first.

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it doesn't really matters...because anybody who like high quality audio will have an add-in sound card anyway.

It's 6400 DDR2 Ram = 400 MHz

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Originally Posted by Driver

It's 6400 DDR2 Ram = 400 MHz

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well duh.. DDR2-800 = PC6400 = 400Mhz

Finally a first shot - the board looks like I expected after seeing some on cebit.
can't wait to see the first Pi runs :D

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Originally Posted by SoF

Finally a first shot - the board looks like I expected after seeing some on cebit.
can't wait to see the first Pi runs :D

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There is more to life than Pi.. for example Beef ;)

I'm very interested to here how well socket 754/939 heatsinks fit with the new socket. I've read that they don't fit at all, but here's to hoping.

They dont, AM2 uses 4 screws instead of two, lots of modding coming up I think..

does it means i´ll need to adapt my cpu block to fit the AM2 mobo? crap.....

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Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

lol, if that's true, what a waste..... although i guess that is supposed to be the point of am2, purely a switch to ddr2

and i know only fx are supposed to be completely unlocked, was asking about HIS cpu, as it pertained to the 333vs200fsb question...

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:confused:

it's not like htt speeds does ANYTHING for performance assuming the cpu and ram clocks are the same. 375x8 and 300x10 with the ram at 300mhz for both gives identical sPI times.

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

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it's not like htt speeds does ANYTHING for performance assuming the cpu and ram clocks are the same. 375x8 and 300x10 with the ram at 300mhz for both gives identical sPI times.

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forgive me if i dissagree, i've built 7 a64 machines, and only need 1 as an example:
opty 165 + DFI LP UT NF4 Ultra-d+2x512 G.Skill LE's(tccd, running 1:1)

we found that 318x8.5(puts ram at 300.33) ran 1.8.s faster (on average) than 300x9(ram at 300) in sp1m(untweaked windows, same memory timings), and don't tell me 3mhz is responsible for the almost full 2 seconds(3d was better too by about 3%)

i remember that explicitly because i had made a thread asking if there was a problem running x.5 multipliers, which there isn't, other than it rounds the memory divider up

now, coolaler's conroe and kyosen's merom seem to scale the same even though coolaler runs MUCH higher fsb AND tighter timings, but that's a full architectural change, not like amd's move to am2, which looks to be just an IMC adjustment

But hey, i'm just basing this off MY OWN experience, others may be different, and maybe AM2 has more changes than we know.....

i'll try and dig up the screenshots between the 2, have to ask they guy who owns it if he has them, and search for the thread @ ocforums

I know that ram speed isn't as important as clock speed, but being i was almost always limited by multiplier i can honostly say i don't know exactly how important fsb is in relation to clock speed

but i do know guys with fx's seem to be upset about coldbug, so why would they if they get the same performance from 200x20 as they migh potentially get from 348x11.5?

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Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

forgive me if i dissagree, i've built 7 a64 machines, and only need 1 as an example:
opty 165 + DFI LP UT NF4 Ultra-d+2x512 G.Skill LE's(tccd, running 1:1)

we found that 318x8.5(puts ram at 300.33) ran 1.8.s faster (on average) than 300x9(ram at 300) in sp1m(untweaked windows, same memory timings), and don't tell me 3mhz is responsible for the almost full 2 seconds(3d was better too by about 3%)

i remember that explicitly because i had made a thread asking if there was a problem running x.5 multipliers, which there isn't, other than it rounds the memory divider up

now, coolaler's conroe and kyosen's merom seem to scale the same even though coolaler runs MUCH higher fsb AND tighter timings, but that's a full architectural change, not like amd's move to am2, which looks to be just an IMC adjustment

But hey, i'm just basing this off MY OWN experience, others may be different, and maybe AM2 has more changes than we know.....

i'll try and dig up the screenshots between the 2, have to ask they guy who owns it if he has them, and search for the thread @ ocforums

I know that ram speed isn't as important as clock speed, but being i was almost always limited by multiplier i can honostly say i don't know exactly how important fsb is in relation to clock speed

but i do know guys with fx's seem to be upset about coldbug, so why would they if they get the same performance from 200x20 as they migh potentially get from 348x11.5?

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Dude, you've totally missed the point and you're wrong.

HTT frequency has been proven to make an insigificant, if not non-existent, impact on performance. This is referring to the Hypertransport frequency, not memory frequency. Obviously, higher memory speed vs high multi will win, but that's not what ozzi's talking about, he's talking pure ht frequency.

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Originally Posted by EnJoY

Dude, you've totally missed the point and you're wrong.

HTT frequency has been proven to make an insigificant, if not non-existent, impact on performance. This is referring to the Hypertransport frequency, not memory frequency. Obviously, higher memory speed vs high multi will win, but that's not what ozzi's talking about, he's talking pure ht frequency.

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here we go...

originally, i was talking about the cpu frequency, which i called fsb, so, let's all make sure we're on the same point, as i've seen this called different names ALL THE TIME

the fsb of a64's is htt x LDT multi = fsb(double pumped), right? so, stock is 200x5=1000(2000 effective), right?, now, that's NOT what i was originally talking about, i was talking about the htt x CPU multi = cpu clock, where with a 4800+ 939 is 200x12, right? Now, from what i've read, the AM2 4800+ will be 333x7.5=2.5, if i'm wrong there, sorry, bad source, which i listed

what i was saying originally is that a processor running 240x10 is faster than the same processor running 200x12(we're talking htt x cpu multi = cpu clock), now, my last post was rebutting what ozzimark had said, which was "that wasn't true"

now, if ozzimark was saying the fsb(meaning the 200x5 value) means nothing, then yes he's right, BUT he got what i was saying wrong

if he got what i was saying right, and is saying there is no difference between a cpu running 200x12 or a cpu running 240x10, then my last post is valid, in that i don't agree, cited examples i've seen with my own eyes(wether you believe them or not), and the point that people with say, an FX, run into problems with high HTT(as in htt x cpu multi = cpu clock) when too cold, i then asked 'WHY would they be upset about that if it dosn't matter???????'

if you want to tell me i'm wrong about the name of a mobo, or the stock speed of anything, fine, but don't tell me i'm wrong on something i've experienced, experimented with, and drew conclusions on

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Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

here we go...

originally, i was talking about the cpu frequency, which i called fsb, so, let's all make sure we're on the same point, as i've seen this called different names ALL THE TIME

the fsb of a64's is htt x LDT multi = fsb(double pumped), right? so, stock is 200x5=1000(2000 effective), right?, now, that's NOT what i was originally talking about, i was talking about the htt x CPU multi = cpu clock, where with a 4800+ 939 is 200x12, right? Now, from what i've read, the AM2 4800+ will be 333x7.5=2.5, if i'm wrong there, sorry, bad source, which i listed

what i was saying originally is that a processor running 240x10 is faster than the same processor running 200x12(we're talking htt x cpu multi = cpu clock), now, my last post was rebutting what ozzimark had said, which was "that wasn't true"

now, if ozzimark was saying the fsb(meaning the 200x5 value) means nothing, then yes he's right, BUT he got what i was saying wrong

if he got what i was saying right, and is saying there is no difference between a cpu running 200x12 or a cpu running 240x10, then my last post is valid, in that i don't agree, cited examples i've seen with my own eyes(wether you believe them or not), and the point that people with say, an FX, run into problems with high HTT(as in htt x cpu multi = cpu clock) when too cold, i then asked 'WHY would they be upset about that if it dosn't matter???????'

if you want to tell me i'm wrong about the name of a mobo, or the stock speed of anything, fine, but don't tell me i'm wrong on something i've experienced, experimented with, and drew conclusions on

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So ozzi and I misunderstood you. We thought you were referring to strictly HT frequency making a performance different, rather than the difference between 240x10 vs 200x12, assuming ram speed is not consistent between both (ie, 1:1 divider on both, so ram speed differs)

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Originally Posted by Torin

I'm very interested to here how well socket 754/939 heatsinks fit with the new socket. I've read that they don't fit at all, but here's to hoping.

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I just love how people dont read and just look at pics.

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Originally Posted by windwithme

the fastener base is different, but still can use 939/754 coolers, have to test to know the real usage situation.
http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N5.JPG

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I dont get it, how can the 939 coolers bolt on, are there holes consistent w/ 939 mounting that I dont see?

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Originally Posted by EnJoY

So ozzi and I misunderstood you. We thought you were referring to strictly HT frequency making a performance different, rather than the difference between 240x10 vs 200x12, assuming ram speed is not consistent between both (ie, 1:1 divider on both, so ram speed differs)

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:toast:

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Originally Posted by nn_step

There is more to life than Pi.. for example Beef ;)

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you're right - can't wait to see the first Pi AND R@H benches :D

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

I dont get it, how can the 939 coolers bolt on, are there holes consistent w/ 939 mounting that I dont see?

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Most stock coolers and some others will work. Im sure that Zalman and many other heatsink companies will come up with adapters.

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Originally Posted by EnJoY

So ozzi and I misunderstood you. We thought you were referring to strictly HT frequency making a performance different, rather than the difference between 240x10 vs 200x12, assuming ram speed is not consistent between both (ie, 1:1 divider on both, so ram speed differs)

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nope, i was on the assuption that he meant the base clock: HTT

vulgar, if you wanna discuss it, feel free to PM me. don't wanna drag WWW's thread too far off topic, but i'll just say this:
try 300x9 at 200mhz ratio and 338x8 at 183mhz ratio or 386x7 at 166mhz ratio.
all should give 2.7ghz and 300mhz ram. i'll honestly be surprised if there's a significant difference between them, let alone 1.8s.. speaking of which, at 3ghz, going from 200mhz at 2-2-2 to 272mhz at 2-2-2 barely gives a 1s difference in 1m. just something to consider

Waht? No AGP? How does MSI expect me to use their FX5200 in that? I shoulda bought a Dell.
Here's hoping Elite group & SiS team up and make one that supports PC133 and/or Conroe.

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

I dont get it, how can the 939 coolers bolt on, are there holes consistent w/ 939 mounting that I dont see?

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NOTICE THE TABS?
http://img7.picsplace.to/img7/17/K9N5.JPG
that is how it can mount on :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Fission

Waht? No AGP? How does MSI expect me to use their FX5200 in that? I shoulda bought a Dell.
Here's hoping Elite group & SiS team up and make one that supports PC133 and/or Conroe.

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my god I hope you are joking.

I hate those conexions so close to the socket and the 1 PCI-Ex!!! complete ecual to the Asus ones :stick: what a lack of re-design

The Storm waterblock would need some sort of modification to be able to mount on a AM2 motherboard, correct? I might buy a AM2 system while waiting for Conroe, but only if I can watercool it.

-k0nsl

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Originally Posted by nn_step

NOTICE THE TABS?

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I was worried about my waterblocks and SS connecting, not an air cooler. Every cooler I have uses the two screw method not a bracket. I'm pretty sure I can make something to hold em on though.

windwithme i've only a question....

Is the chipset hotter than NF4 ?

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Originally Posted by vkbms

windwithme i've only a question....

Is the chipset hotter than NF4 ?

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yes......:slapass:

I only hope that manifacturer will place chipset in a good point of mobo....Not like in the DFI :stick: ..... :D

Thanks for bringing us this first look WWM!

Looking forward to you OCing benchmarks! :toast:

1m 13sec pi fallen ? your kidding right

jesus do you gentlemen live in a closet ?

the initial AM2 perofrmance tests have already been released and ther eis little to no gain in perfmance.

the AM2 is the exact same thing as the 939 only its DDR2 and skt 940.

its not a complete redone cpu people.. you'll be sitting quite a while waiting for any new AM2 cpu's to come out to compete against the conroe and merom. AMD has no plans to release any such cpu atleast according to their roadmap.

i hate to say this as I love amd all the way but this is a bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: move by amd and the only reason for it is to move into DDR2

there is no major performance when moving to AM2 and DDR2

the new 5000 series AM2 chip and one other has already been reviewed and the performance is nothing.

atleast thats what i took away from the review...............

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1m 13sec pi fallen ? your kidding right

jesus do you gentlemen live in a closet ?

the initial AM2 perofrmance tests have already been released and ther eis little to no gain in perfmance.

the AM2 is the exact same thing as the 939 only its DDR2 and skt 940.

its not a complete redone cpu people.. you'll be sitting quite a while waiting for any new AM2 cpu's to come out to compete against the conroe and merom. AMD has no plans to release any such cpu atleast according to their roadmap.

i hate to say this as I love amd all the way but this is a bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: move by amd and the only reason for it is to move into DDR2

there is no major performance when moving to AM2 and DDR2

the new 5000 series AM2 chip and one other has already been reviewed and the performance is nothing.

atleast thats what i took away from the review...............

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Trust me you will see a big jump shortly enough for AMD..
not saying anything specific or anything but Quad...

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Originally Posted by nn_step

Trust me you will see a big jump shortly enough for AMD..
not saying anything specific or anything but Quad...

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the stirring of the pot....

keep 'em guessing, eh nn_step

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Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

the stirring of the pot....

keep 'em guessing, eh nn_step

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Tis the Job...:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Lestat

1m 13sec pi fallen ? your kidding right

jesus do you gentlemen live in a closet ?

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Pi is useless as a CPU/system bench, its about as in cache and branchless as you're gonna get. Same goes for Sandra CPU tests and bandwidth tests....

Real world (ie. in game at playable resolutions not 640x480, MPEG4 encode times, etc.) tests only please.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

the initial AM2 perofrmance tests have already been released and ther eis little to no gain in perfmance.

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AM2 is about catering to the OEM's and unifying thier desktop sockets, not so much about increasing performance, not at launch at least... Don't be so hasty to put it down, its got some scaling room remember?

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Originally Posted by Lestat

the AM2 is the exact same thing as the 939 only its DDR2 and skt 940.

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Its a socket change, providing cost effective scalability is what its supposed to do, not a arch. change. If you want that wait for K8L.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

its not a complete redone cpu people.. you'll be sitting quite a while waiting for any new AM2 cpu's to come out to compete against the conroe and merom. AMD has no plans to release any such cpu atleast according to their roadmap.

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I don't recall anyone ever saying that it was a new core, or AMD suggesting it was, just that it was a minor core refresh so arch.-wise rev. F AM2 CPU's will be the same as current skt. 939 CPU's but they may be able to reach higher clockspeeds or run at lower voltages to reduce heat.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i hate to say this as I love amd all the way but this is a bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: move by amd and the only reason for it is to move into DDR2

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I'm sorry but you come off as really whiny here... You gonna be complaining as much when Intel switches to DDR3 in mid-late 2007 and ruins your upgrade path then, or perhaps even before then with another one of thier many chipset/VREG changes? Wether you buy Intel or AMD at one point or another you're gonna have to upgrade and more often than not for one reason or another it usually works out that for a major upgrade you end up practically gutting your computer anyways, so get over it or buy a PS3/X360 cuz' neither AMD or Intel has a real good track record with upgradability.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

the new 5000 series AM2 chip and one other has already been reviewed and the performance is nothing.

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You're kidding right? An AM2 A64 5000 won't run anything anymore huh? Its just to weak?

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Originally Posted by Lestat

atleast thats what i took away from the review...............

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That must be some review, post the link I gotta see this...

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Originally Posted by nn_step

Tis the Job...:rolleyes:

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:D lol, does it pay well, cause i have some free time to think for myself, question authority, and would love to have some insight:sofa:

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:D lol, does it pay well, cause i have some free time to think for myself, question authority, and would love to have some insight:sofa:

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AMD is going to do what no one expects at a time when no one expects it.

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AMD is going to do what no one expects at a time when no one expects it.

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Another brilliant piece of Nostradamus crap, now this is getting boring.

Wind with me had posted all the photos....i only have to add the case...:P

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...akoS/Koyti.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...akoS/Specs.jpg