Since It seems I am the first person anywhere to report this stepping so I am starting a thread on it. I am going to be starting testing today. (People seem to be confirming this at [H] also)
Here she is..
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/new165.jpg
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Since It seems I am the first person anywhere to report this stepping so I am starting a thread on it. I am going to be starting testing today. (People seem to be confirming this at [H] also)
Here she is..
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/new165.jpg
Ooo, that's a youngn'....break her in gently. ;)
She will be..
Im going to test her on my Abit KN8-SLI (Budget I know, She just got a new 146.) I just bought for my wifes system, since I dont want to break down my main machine just yet. Should give me some idea of what she is capable of...
Hey, let me ask you.. did your confirmation come wednesday night or morning? Or other? I have a feeling they had two different batches, one shipped out in the morning and one at night.. also when did you order.
I am too anxious to wait another 2 hours now :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Repoman
Lemme check my invoice..
Placed : 04/06/2006 16:23:06 MDT
Got my shipment notification.. Wednesday at 8:03 PM
Ha! same here.. exact time too
I really couldn't turn down the deal. Got the 146, 165. And thier Nero 7 Ultra Bundle, with the caps and Tshirt for $475 shipped 2 day.
VERY interesting, I havent seen a CCBBE before. 0610 is also interesting.
Setting up my testing rig now. First time ever I have gotten something brand spanking new in regards to steppings. :)
BB memory controller?
Typo... or a true BB and it doesn't have coldbug?
Or maybe AMD restarted at the beginning of the alphabet and it's still bugged?
Interesting.
where did you order this chip from?
He's got a pic of it right there, how would it be a typo ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
And he said he got it from monarch
I can provide high res scans to show it isnt photoshopped or anything. It is genuine.
Its not a typo and it is a "BB" Controller.
I did get it from Monarch this morning.
OS is loading on my test bench to see if I can get an idea of what this chip is capable of.
I mean like AMD Factory typo. BB doesn't make any sense to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Thought you might have meant that.. but seems like AMD would go over it a few times :confused:
lol, we'll never know. Anybody here work in Fab35?
I work at fab34 :hehe:
Looking forward to some benchies :)
Well, so far so good.
Pics to follow soon, Dual Priming at 2700Mhz (9x300) 3xHT Stock Volts, and its been going for 15 minutes now.
A good start IMO. Already seems to be a $277 FX-60+
Temps are good as reported by ABits software, I don't trust them, but with an XP-90 and a High Speed Panaflow its saying load temps are 36-38c with a 21c Ambient.
I don't know what the max HTT of this KN8-SLI is Ive heard around 320, So its going to have to go into my SLI-DR Expert as I think this chip will reach that limit easily
A very good start. I was planning on starting at 2.4 so I didn't disappoint myself if it failed right off the bat at 2.8 :fact:
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Originally Posted by Repoman
My 170 in my sig is going to go to ebay probally this weekend. Its a retail, So I Dont see why I can't at least recover my $277 I paid for the 165 out of it. It should fetch at least $325 so I will probally make a small profit on the exchange.
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/2700.jpg
Sorry for the small desktop, Its my test bench monitor. It only does 1024x768.
Core 0 failed @2800 stock volts in 15 seconds
Failed at 2750 stock volts in 12 Minutes.
I'm only using an XP-90, so better cooling might produce better results.
I have a TTBT to use and a sythe ninja. I think its about time for this chip to go over to my SLI-DR Expert.
good luck.. looks like i might pickup a 165 in the next few weeks
Just found out my Mushkin TCCD was only set at 2.6. Put it back up to 2.8 and trying again at 2800.
got the same stepping, CCBBE 0610DPMW, and priming away at 2.4 and stock volts right now. Temps are 47C under load and 32 Idle using the stock opteron fan.
Wasnt a ram voltage problem. With the XP-90 on the KN8 2730 seems to be the limit @ stock volts. I raised it to 1.41 bios (around 1.43 CPU-Z) and its chugging away at 2800 no problems now. Going to try a bump to 2850 and see what happens.
/sigh
316HTT = Instant Reboot, Im at the boards limit.
Time to pull apart the SLI-DR Expert and switch it.
SLI-DR Expert tops out at 316? That's ridiculous, i don't think they are that bad. Try 2x LDT multiplier. More volts captain!
No, thats his abit board, read the thread. ;)
Hes now trasnferring to his DFI
Damn, what have you been doing today? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
No offence ;)
Yea it was an Abit K8N-SLI for my wifes system. I got her a 146 for her system. Looks to be doing 2750 @ stock atm. So she will have a fast little gaming computer when she comes home.
I might not be able to go to the expert till tonight or tommorow, I have 4 tests for my US History course due today and it will take me around 4+ hours to do them.
oops, see the eXpert in sig and figured you were using that.
Alright tell us how it goes, seems like an above average chip, but BB memory controller, i'm not sure. I'm thinking it's not coldbugged. It would be cool if you could test on a phase unit ;)
Up until 3 AM, then wakeup at 7AM for 8AM class :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ChkDsk
Got mine today, CCBBE 0610DPMW as well. As I said in the dual core opty thread, 307x9 stock volts, 7 tests in prime done, but 2808MHz was bsod at windows desktop. I have another one coming monday, hopefully same stepping so one will go in the fs section or ebay!
Thats odd. I could get into windows at 311x9, but core 0 failed in around 15 seconds. Core 1 kept on going.
Stock volts? Are you on the expert yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
Looks like we got really lucky, all that complaining to ourselves must have paid off :rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Yea at stock volts on the K8N.
I did have to raise the Chipset voltage to get the K8N to boot at that high of HTT. It really doesnt like it that high. Thats why I got my wife a 10x Multi chip vice a 9x.
It's back up to 2799 on stock volts, still priming ok. Weird that it BSOD'd at 2808 :confused: I think it could have been from something else, it was also the first boot with the nvidia card gone and ati rage in, and I didn't uninstall nvidia drivers beforehand.. maybe we'll see >2800 on stock volts
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Originally Posted by Repoman
It has to be the watercooling. I think we have some winners here with these new chips. 2800 @ stock. Is probally going to be a Max OC of 3.05-3.1 on water for you.
Im hoping for 3ghz on Air. I would be tickled pink at that.
omg, just booted up at 318x9 stock volts, priming strong! I'm pretty sure now that the first bsod was caused by conflicting drivers.
Get yourself a water setup man.. though my temps aren't any better than yours :confused:
Jesus Christ,
2862 @ Stock?
Looks like I'm investing in some water cooling this weekend.
I dont think I have ever heard of a prime stable Dual Opty doing that high at stock.
Passed 4 tests before I got impatient and set 2900, unfortunately immediate freeze :( So reboot, 320x9, priming away now @2880 :D Screenies to come once it runs a little longer.
edit: nope, back to 2860, core 1 is the bum on this one :D
Im thinking we are looking at well over 3Ghz at very low voltages on this chip what do you think?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Hmm core 0 is the bum one on mine.
Get her naked. 3ghz easy.
keep in mind that the freq to voltage ramp rate is NEVER linear. My 0608 can do 2.9GHz on stock voltage (1.35-1.37V), but requires 1.47V to do 3.0GHz on air...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
Good Point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST4
And BTW I LOVE your setup, very cool.
2.85 on stock volts.
i am revising, i think they are coldbugged :fact:
Eh, I've done it on 2 chips so far, X2 3800 0529MPMW and 165 0550VPMW, from experience I can say it's not really worth it.. temps have never dropped at all for me. And it takes like 10 mounts to get a semi good one, that's why I sold my naked 0550vpmw in the first place.. couldn't get a good mount on it.. but this chip is better at stock than the 0550 at 1.5v :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
edit: If I get another 0610DPMW on monday, I'd be willing to lend it for someone to test on phase :fact:
whoa nelly.. nice chip.. whew.
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Originally Posted by Repoman
I'm halfway thinking of picking a coulpe more up, just to hold onto for a while, the 0550s sold for insanly high prices on ebay. $500+ Could probally recoup my whole cost of the chip.
Repo,
Do you think, a single PA 120, DD D5 and a Storm rev 2 would be good enough for this processor. I really dont want to bother WCing my video card and I would like to avoid modifing my case.
I'm no WC expert, just got this set up a couple weeks ago, but right off the bat I can tell you instead of the D5 you should get the Aquaextreme 50z from cooltechnica.. less heat dump, quiet, and near the same head pressure.. And for CPU, an aqx MP-05 according to a guy in the wc forum should be equal to storm rev2 for $20 less.. I have one and it's pretty nice.
Also I think a PA160 would be better for the rad
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Originally Posted by Spazilton
you'll want at least a double rad setup...i wouldn't recommend a D5 (too much heat dump), get a DDC + (make sure its the PLUS model) and either mode it or get a new Alphacool head to get 1/2" barbs all the way around..with your setup (especially your 1000W PSU!!!), surprised your not going to Phase! ;)
So whats the verdict! Show us 3.0GHz on the DFI! ;)
Guys, the heat dump from the D5 isn't noticable. I have run both AquaXtreme50Z and the D5, both are great pumps and performance is virtually identical.
My old loop
Storm G4, D5, 120.2 heatercore
new loop
TDX, 50Z, 120.2 heatercore
Old loop was about 1.2c better temps all around, mostly due to the block. I think the D5 is a superior pump, it dumps a little more heat but it's hardly noticable, water has a huge heat capacity... D5 is more powerful. If you're going to use a lot of blocks or do a dual radiator setup, D5 is recommended. 50Z will suit you just fine otherwise.
Would it be ok to run 2 single 120mm rads? The only place I could mount a double rad setup in my case would be on the top, and with how the Lian Li case is setup, It would cause conflicts between my second video card and the Rad.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST4
I could mount a PA 120 in the front and back of the case with little problems.
A PA160 will perform close to a double rad with enough (80cfm) airflow. If you could fit 160mm in your case then you could do that.. (only takes 120mm fan btw).
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Originally Posted by Repoman
It would have to go in the front of the case and exhaust onto the hard drives. Don't really like that Idea they are enough of a pain to keep cool as is. I dont think their would be enough clearance for the 160 in the rear. I guess I need to do some measurements to double check.
you could always get a radbox and throw the double or even triple rads in the rear if you're okay doing it externally. you know the bip 3 is going for $30 bux right now too..Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
btw> DDC+ is equivalent to D5 on setting 4 i believe, and quieter with less heat dump...
You know thats actually a pretty good Idea. Hadnet thought of that, with the rad box handle a 120x3 Setup?Quote:
Originally Posted by ST4
Looks like the 0610DPMW are gonna scale pretty well too.. mine ended up at 2844 on stock volts, priming at 2934 with 1.4v. I'll be really happy if this is stable, that's nearly 100MHz for .05v :eek: usually takes around .1v/100MHz
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7...41350vv.th.jpg
Too impatient to wait for longer primes..
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/repo.jpg
Rehosted the pic for ya, I hate Imagespace's popups.
Hey man, thanks :)
yeah imageshack's popups are the one thing firefox adblock can't get, because you will end up blocking all images on the site :mad:
yes, it doesn't matter how rads it is, you would setup the rad in the middle fan and you'd be set. this is the same configuration i was potentially going after!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
btw> 0610 do look strong. seems amd is cranking out some nice CPUs lately!!
Yea kinda hard to pass up $30 for a 120x3 Rad. If I could combine it with the radbox, they I dont see why I couldnt watercool this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST4
There is somebody at AnandTech who has a 165 that does 3GHz at stock volts on air cooling. I'm not going to search for the thread though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazilton
^That's awesome!
Speaking of 3GHz, got bored of low voltage and I'm going to see what's the lowest volts I can do there. Priming a couple mins now at 1.475..
Sounds like the next 0608MPMW
I'm 99% sure these are coldbugged, if your results are indicative of all of them.
Are you guys still running the 0610 with the IHS on? :D :D
There's 4 people on AT that has 3GHz chips that I am aware of: Lopri, Elfear, Absolute, and myself....none of them are on stock volts....Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
yeah little skeptical about stock volts myself, i need 1.4v on water for 3. Even my 170 with the IHS removed needs 1.39 vor 3 Ghz. 3 on air with stock 1.35v - possible to get there but dual prime stable in normal ambients is doubtful.
I clearly remember the thread, I just can't find it anymore. it wasn't a big time poster, it was just somebody who registered for the sole purpose of posting their results. I don't know if he was lying, or if it was photoshopped, but I do remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST4
Ah I think I remember that, don't know whether it was on anandtech or not. It was some whiny guy that wanted everyone to recognize his crappy OC, everyone said it sucked and he comes back with 3GHz at stock voltage.. I think he photoshopped it
Im doing my history work now, wont be done till around 10PM then I get to play with the Expert.
I curious to see if you can get 3Ghz out of it :)
was it one of these threads?Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
sorry for the OT....just waiting on further results of 0610...might have to test some myself! ;)
Remounted mine, might have gained 1-2MHz on the HTT bus stock vcore. So 2853 now.
That's it for a while, I'm gonna prime for an hour or two, do some mulch ( :rolleyes: ) and see if they can keep up
my 0550 VPMW 2.95@1.420v air cooling 6 haurs dual prime priority 9 ;) 3.0ghz need 1.480v load 51-52c
nice chip, good info
Try Opty 165 @ 2943MHz @ 1.40V! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 865pe
http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...=sp04-2943.jpg
I believe Absolute's old 0550 170 was even better than that!
I can do 2.95 with 1.36v on the 170.
3.0 1.39v
3.1 1.48v
3.15 1.53v
3.2 1.56v
3.25 1.6v primed for a few minutes and then froze
What actual voltage is that? Does the ASUS undervolt? My DFI here says 1.400v actual (with DMM) is 1.376, looks like I'm gonna get about 2925 with that, maybe 1htt step down.
I think I will beat your 0550VPMW :nono:
edit: 865's I mean :rolleyes:
edit2: Absolute, are your voltages CPU-Z or Actual?
I think they're CPU-ZQuote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
No. I don't remember if it was in general discussion or cpu/overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST4
CPUZ
here's what i run 24/7
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...l/1b4c2484.jpg
Wow, that is fantastic :eek: so what's that, like 1.575?
people report DFI boards overvolt, so actual DMM reading is probably around 1.575 yes.
We're getting off topic tho, how are the 0610s doing? :D
2906@1.4v :D Though I think I know now why it's BSOD'd at 324/325*9, I hit the limit of my RAM! It will do ~243MHz at the current timings, and it's at 242.9 with 323x9.. back to testing 325 :rolleyes:
*off topic again*
just fyi, my dfi board is always spot on with the voltage I set, or whatever calc.exe says for vid special percentages. Then it jumps up .03v exactly on load, no matter what
:eek: :clap: :bows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
I know, I've been ravenously jealous for over a month now ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ST4
Repo either has a better chip or the cooling is making that big of a difference. I can't pass 2800 @ stock for more than 1 hr 15min.
Bumped it to 1.375 and left it priming at 2800. I already have a far stronger chip than my 170. Not bad for $277.
Only gripe is that the damn Amd X2 Tshirt I got from Monarch was a large... I wear an XL :(
Here is a screeny. I'm going to bed finally.
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/2800.jpg
Well that passed for over 12 hrs.
From that point on I really do think its cooling. I need almost another .1v just to get from 2800 to 2900. I think I am going to invest in a water cooling system here this weekend and try it out next week.
So 1.45 at 2900? Still not bad! Considering we were both expecting 0551's.
Priming away at 333x9 1.475v, 6 tests done. if I use the machine, even just simple web browsing, it will BSOD or lock- RageXL 8MB is toast.. if it has to render anything but the unmoving desktop it craps out
If this is stable, it will just edge out the average 0608! Judging by the one 3GHz result I remember which was ST4, 3GHz@1.5
Actually, 1.47V @ 3.0GHz ;) but this is with me browsing around and doing stuff (note the 0550 browser below i was persuing around :) . Might be your mem divider?Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Good show anyways! :toast:
Can you see how much you can undervolt though? I would be more impressed with low voltage overclocks like : 1938MHz @ .99V
Oh my mistake, I thought you were on a DFI board, where 1.472 would be 1.5v. You should do a DMM measurement just in case, I've found my vcore is spot on so I don't bother measuring it anymore when I set it ;)
Up to 1.485v though, got a BSOD@1.475 but as usual I think it was the GFX. Prime stable for 45mins then screw up on simple windows tasks doesn't make sense to me.. we'll see for sure though if 1.485 works
I will try undervolting after I find lowest 3GHz stable volts ;)
Well on the TTBT, I cant get 3ghz stable at anything up to 1.55.
Temps shoot up pretty bad, (44-45c on the expert which is probally 10c low)and since Im running without a case for my testing It will only get worse. Ive tried going for 2x1GB sticks down to 2x512MB sticks with no luck.
2800 was fine at 1.375, I did have one wierd lockup after 15 min, but then it ran 13 hours just fine.
2900 seemed fine at 1.45. I really just think I'm hitting a thermal wall. I do think this is a 3Ghz chip, Im just going to need water to do it.
It will boot into windows at 3ghz, and core 0 primes fine even at 1.45. Core 1 craps out immeadatly.
3066 at any voltage, and both cores crap out.
Yeah I've found this really isn't a low voltage chip, for whoever asked. First booted up at 222x9 1v, had to clear CMOS, next tried 280x9 1.2v randomly, BSOD, priming at 270x9 1.2v now. If you go by 50MHz/.05v, it should scale backward to-
2800@1.3
2750@1.25
2700@1.2
But you need to hit near stock voltages it looks like to get anything out of it. Not a chip for a sff.. I will test max at 1.1v, 1.15v, 1.2v, 1.25 etc eventually
And prime failed at 2432 1.2v
Well ambient has been pretty high in my computer room. Temps are still kinda warm outside and the AC doesnt do much for upstairs.
I put a 120mm fan across the PWMs and dropped them from 49-51c down to 37c
Im doing this now at 1.475 its getting better.
Passed 25 minutes of Prime So far.
http://www.swva.net/jehamilt/2935.jpg
Anybody here have access to COLD temps? I want to know if this cpu is gonna be bugged. If somebody's willing to loan me one, I'll be happy to run it through some testing on my autocascade :D And by low temps, I mean something like this:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7049/11x3008jj.jpg
btw> can you 0610 owners tell me your tcasemax and tdps? tia