I just got it, we will run a full base of tests tomorrow
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/452/dscf00056zl.jpg
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I just got it, we will run a full base of tests tomorrow
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/452/dscf00056zl.jpg
sorry for last few pics camera giving problems.
Could be nice but those picks are horrible :(
Waitin' for OCing results :D
Crossfire pioneer!
ILU Althes :toast:
What stuff are you gonna rig it with?
opty 148
x1300pros/x1800gto
seagate 80gig
1gig gskill bh5
ocz520w psu
nice nice another crossfire board review from althes! :)
Does it seem like a lot has changed from the AT8? Still a cheapo 3phase unit. But let's hope Abit put some brains and effort into this one.
Tbh I don't think that there is anything basically wrong with the AT8.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Sure, it isn't for the Xtreme overclockers but for 99.9% of folks it will do fine.
Well If ram compatibility isn't considered a problem then yah i guess you could say there is nothing wrong with abit.........I personally would like to run ddr 500 @ ddr 500 and so on with ddr 600 etc...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
I am uploading single card scores for x1300 trying to find max oc on vidcard before xfire.
Using 6.3cats
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2...03testa3ki.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/6...03testb5kd.jpg
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/2...03testc7vx.jpg
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/1...05testa1hq.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8...05testb1iu.jpg
Board so far is playing well.
Going for the almighty oc now.
To max out cpu
Hows ram clocking althes. And more specifically can you throw some tccd at it and show us some 32m stable settings at ddr 600?
The X1300 gets 3000+ points in 3Dmark05! :eek2:
Sweet! :clap: I didn't know that!
Will do chew got 2 gigs waiting its turn to get on the abit corvette
Using the bh5 now and have to use 333 divider after 235 t only gives 3.2v
Keep us posted Althes. This is supposed to be my next board, if Abit does it right...
man please, edit posts and pull down pics!!! PLEASE!
its in stock on newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127234
Doesn't look very promising... 3 phase power supply, PCIe slots are too close together..
Looking good althes.
But please resize pics :)
xfire scores with the x1300
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7...ire3d037hn.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5237/xfire3d054jz.jpg
One of the issues I have found is that the space bewteen vidcard is too small
DOes this board have similar issues as the AT8 where vcore fluctuates a whole damn lot? How does it like overclocking?
Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Yeah, how is vcore stability?
Ok guys will resize pics.
So far the board fluctuates vdimm 3.19-2.21
OC I have gotten it up to 270 but doesnt want to go further will report back shortly trying to get it to 300.
The board overvolts by .02-.04 when i set it to 1.65 i get 1.67-1.69
Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
Is that the most it will change under load? What I mean is if I set vcore to 1.65, and it actually reads 1.67/69, will it be stable and not go higher or lower under load. The AT8 I had would fluctuate on vcore bad. Under load vcor was all over the place...
Yes thats under load so its actually doing a good job
Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
Woot! That's what I wanted to hear. Have you done a HTT test yet? My opty 165 needs at least 322htt for benchmarking. Oh yeah, does it have all ram dividers???
Thanks Althes, and keep us posted...
Cant get clockgen to work on this board.
I may have to install uguru which i havent yet.
WOnder if ati system manager will work.
Try pumping 1.65v+ in a dual core setup... the mosfets will burn your fingers and it'll eventually fail prime.
Is ATI System Manager board specific or does work on all RD580 products? I haven't been able to find it anywhere...
Quote:
Originally Posted by HKPolice
Uhh, same thing happens on my Ultra D without active cooling. Whats your point???
The chipset itself should be more than capable of 322 htt plywood. Whether or not the board is capable is another question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plywood99
I was able to hit 10k in 3d03 in xfire with x1300's
http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/5...re3d03a6mc.jpg
THE board aint going past 270 i even tried dropping the multiplier.
Going to see what else I can think off, plywood remember with the last ait board this happened until we got a new bios.
have you set PLL to high speed? If that's an option with the Abit board.
not an option
Abit is such a retard. Even Asus has the option.Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
does anyone have ati system manager them can pm to me
sapphire has a new one up on their site
situman - I've been looking for that for days and still haven't found it on their site...
EDIT: Duh... what a dope. I just found it. Thanks-
Its not working can't read ics chip
Probably why clcokgen can't work
Same thing on the Asus....
I can't get the x1800gto's to run in crossfire
Tic Tac need some help with a new bios my friend
How are things going Althes???
Mal and rp still high for stablity.
Board wont go past 270.
WIll try a x23800 when I get home tonite to see how it handles them.
Abit still has that ddr reference still taht goes from -0.6 to +0.6 for ram stabitlity and vtt tracking.
Board may need a vdimm mod for those wanting to push bh5.
I have 2 gigs of tccd to try tonite also and try some 06 runs.
Overall very stable board quicker than the at8, but right its one failing is getting above 270.
I hope the cpu was the problem although I doubt it.
The heatpipe seems to be working fine but you have to put a fan on it for serous stablity.
chew I will have your pi scores with 2gig of tccd coming up shortly.
Althes,
That bottom|last PCI slot is usable with dual slot cards in Crossfire yes? Aka would you have room for a sound card with dual X1900 XTs installed?
It will be a very tight fit.
was able to get above 270 testing at 275 now.
Had to lower LDT to 200.
Anything above it locks tight.
A couple other things I had to do also will report later
Thanks Althes,Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
I poked around and got the same answer from a few others. I am going to try this board. I like the price, passive cooling, and I am using a 4400+ that doesn't do more than 2.76 anyway. Also I like the position of the top PCI-e slot. My Powercolor tuner card will fit their nicely and I will still be able to do Crossfire. I need to reinstall window soon, as I don't want to active til I have my final build all together.
I ordered one of these too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127208
I was able to get up to 275 but no further.
This board is really bugging me now.
I even dropped multi and upped fsb no go over 275.
The board wont budge.
I think I need a new bios or my board is bad.
Those are good xfire cards it seems good price also
Cheers for all these updates:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
Are the problems you're finding with this board purely overclocking related or has it got 'normal use' issues too?
Any rumours of a new (official/beta) BIOS?
Odd. Well this G. Skill 2gb of mine doesn't do over 261 anyway, at least at 1:1. I plan on just doing 251 x 11 at 1T for my OC.Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
For the heck of it, I'll try my old Crucial Ballistix in the board and see what I can get. They are 512mb each and good for 306 at 1:1. If the BIOS is missing any settings I like I'll just whip out good 'ol A64 tweaker on it. I've found pretty much ideal settings for my overclock and dual core after much experimenting.
That is what I am using now at 251 1:1 :
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/512...tsmooth5fb.jpg
I can go tighter with 8 on Trc and 12 Trfc. The settings I have however give me the best performance, stability and smooth game play. I lost all hitching in EQ 2 and some other games with these settings. Max async latency to 8ns and read preamble bumped to 6ns were other key changes. Naturally I should stress this is specific to this ram and dual core.
There is something up with the board I think something is running really tight an dnot causing it to OC
Althes, how bout a A64tweaker shot of it at 275. Or a Systool memory timings shot. Might see something fishy...
Ok will do in the morning
275?
ic.... ;)
a review on newegg has it to 285 right at the start and "feels" it will do 300 easy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
TicTac, you up to something...:p: :p: :p:
Most of the time, Eggy reviews are retarded. There were 200 reviews of the A8N32-SLI board BEFORE the board was available!Quote:
Originally Posted by nate39
The list so far:
The board recognizes the G.Skill in my sig as PC 3200 ram. I can force it to be recognized as 4000 and it will run at 3200 speed and with my CPU at stock. If I let it set it to 3200 I can get a 232 FSB out of it.
I put my old OCZ PC 3200 in my case and it will run that fine at 220 FSB until I shut down and restart cold. Then I get no video signal and no post. My system basically locks. So I have to remove the battery and reset the CMOS.
Do the people that lay out these boards and design them actually mount them in a case with hardware? I can not express my level of disgust that you have to remove the master slot card and your PCI sound card to access the battery and more importantly, the CMOS jumper. Also the additional power molex plug is down at the bottom of the board so getting the cards out is interesting.
One good thing I can say is it runs fine with 1T.
The BIOS does not allow you to set; read write queue bypass, bypass max, read preamble, or max async latency. All of those are important when you are trying to push ram to the limit. It doesn't matter if you can set them in windows if they need to be set differently to even get it to load.
I ordered the DFI board late last night. Why is it I can directly set any ram timings or FSB with my 85 dollar EPoX board yet this one has to be coaxed up 5 at a time just to do 232? Ugh.
I got a guru panel in part so that I can clearCMOS from it without delving into the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by malficar
heidfirst do you ;like the guru panel
I haven't had it long (couple of days) & it doesn't really do anything that you can't do some other way.
I had the spare drive bay space though & now that I have an X1900XT fitted it was going to be even harder to get at the CMOS jumper (not unique to the AT8, if anything the jumper on an Asrock 939DualSATA is in a worse place) than with a 7800GT so if it saves some hassle in the future I'll be happy.
Given that it's got a Fatal1ty logo on the screen I'm a bit surprised that they went with a green backlight rather than a red though.
Yeah this board has issues, tried an x2 3800 no luck cant get past 275
Well guru doesn't function at all under MCE 2005. I installed win xp instead last night and was overclocking when I got to a 240 FSB it locked my system. When I forced a reboot it would not post and gave me a code of C1. I tried clearing it the way the manual suggested. Finally I pulled all the power cables off the board, took out the battery and cleared the CMOS via the jumper then went to sleep. When I put it all back together today it froze with the same code on the mobo. I've tried one and two sticks of corsair value select, crucial ballistix pc 3200, ocz pc 3200 2gb, and of course my g skill PC 4000.
I also removed all add in cards except my X1900. Then I tried my AIW X1800 XL, then my X800 XL. Same code C1 and wouldn't post.
I did some checking and "C1" is a "memory presence test" fail. This happened after the OC. Now that would be one and or two sticks of the four different types of memory I listed; crucial ballistix, corsair value select, ocz 2gb pc 3200, and the g skill in my sig. I know three of them worked because I tried them before this OC fail and then the odd code. It has to be some sort of bug. They also work fine in the EPoX board I put back in my rig.
This happened while using regular old win XP SP-2. Not MCE 2005. I had wanted to try the guru overclock. Yes I did a full format of my drive with the OS before installing XP SP-2.
With my old EPoX board back in, and XP installed again I am running fine. Guess I wait on the DFI and try MCE 2005 on it. This fugger is going in my waste can. I'll say again my 85usd EPoX board is a much better overclocker.
Man I hope a new comes soon and fixes this lock.
Its just really stupid for this to happen now.
DFI for me then until a new bios appears this board is packed away
Yes it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by malficar
I had problems with it too to start with but then something (possibly an MS update) happened & it started working.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
MS? Helping the overclock cause? I don't believe it.
All I can say is that originally whilst the icon for uGuru showed up in the system tray when I moused over it it disappeared & quit. Then for some reason (& best that I can think of was 1 of the very many downloaded MS updates to my MCE2005 install from disk) it started working.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Nope, the uguru interface loads and has zero values|info. When you click the side buttons to the left for OC or what have you it does nothing. The only thing the program would do for me under MCE was open and close. I patched everything MS would allow me to after I installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
I did try it under windows XP SP-2 and it showed values and worked fully. It would freeze when I tried to use it in conjunction with A64 tweaker though.
I'd say just buy a mobo with a complete overclocking BIOS that has access to things like; read preamble, max async latency, read write queue by pass, and bypass max.
More importantly though, I located what's up with this memory bug. It seems the one before the AT8 32X, the AT8 had the same C1 bug I experienced. Read this review page:
"So every time the system hung at C1 after clearing CMOS I just had to disconnect the CPU fan, let the system shutdown and then everything worked normally."
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Abit/AT8/14
When it happens it gives you the error code C1 which means "detecting memory presence", or a fail doing so. Clearing the CMOS won't fix it. Nothing will, save disconnecting the CPU fan. This happened to me after I went for a 240 FSB. Now I know.
So in closing, this C1 thing that happened to me, is a bug shared with an older board (AT8) still present in the current incarnation that no one has bothered to tune or fix. I wish I had seen that review earlier. I could have saved myself so much time. So if you have a failed OC and then suddenly have this error code that won't go away even with a CMOS clearing (C1), do what the reviewer described.
If you know someone with this board or the AT8 please tell them about how to fix the C1 issue. I would not want anyone to go through the crap I went through last night.
well it works on the AT8 under MCEQuote:
Originally Posted by malficar
what version are you using?
3.023 is on the ftp
ftp://ftp-usa.abit.com.tw/pub/downlo...guru_v3023.zip
It's fixed in the AT8 both by tictac mod of shipping BIOS & later by Abit in an official BIOS update.Quote:
So in closing, this C1 thing that happened to me, is a bug shared with an older board (AT8) still present in the current incarnation that no one has bothered to tune or fix.
If it's the same bug shouldn't be too hard for tictac to mod the AT8 32X BIOS then.
All I can say is the behavior and code are identical. I can't test the fan fix personally because it isn't in my case anymore. I became disgusted with the whole thing when all of what I described in this thread, along with clearing the CMOS repeatedly, wouldn't get me past C1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
well, so far going by various forums it looks like all the RD580 boards have strikes against them- the Abit, Asus, DFI & Sapphire :(
I hope tic tac can do a nice bios and tony for the dfi
Had it about a week - so far so good 9x310 on a Opte 165 3448 1T. recovers nice when it hangs.
If Tictac wants to mod a BIOS for the AT8 32X in same manner as done for the AT8, I'd be willing to try it.
When I was stuck in C1 and unable to recover regardless of what I did, I was using crucial ballistix pc 3200 ram capable of 2-2-2-6 @ 200 and also all the way to 3-4-4-10 @ 306. It did that regularly without problems on EPoX boards. This bug seems to come into play with CAS 2 capable ram that fails an OC. After I had set 240 it happened.
Nice clock m8 :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Amiteriver
Amiteriver, would you divulge what memory you're using? I ask because Abit's product pages specify ECC memory, but not non-ECC:Quote:
Originally Posted by Amiteriver
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...es=1&model=311
http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/en/moth...YPE=Socket+939
Probably just a misprint? The manual specifies non-ECC. But I still thought it strange that both product pages (that probably came later) left it out.
Thanks!
Thats wierd, it shouldnt be ECC. I was under the impression socket 939 cant take it. I just got my at8 32.
MUSHKIN 991434 DDR PC3200 Memory, 2GB (2x1GB) 400MHz, 184 Pin, Unbuffered, non-ECC, CAS 2-3-2-6Quote:
Originally Posted by melbeach
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...iliate=froogle
Mine have the silver heatsinks - I bought back in 8/10/05 -I think it had just come out - i think - It has worked really well on a MSI n4, Asus Mvp & now even Abit - Its good stuff
Have you guys given up on this board and moved on?
Yeah I moved on. Got the DFI CFX 3200 and can run all the memory I own in it at any settings. Ballistix, Corsair, OCZ, and my G.Skill.
My first swipe at 3dmark06 in Crossfire with quality driver(6.3) settings was 9411. Which isn't too bad. The cards were only at XTX stock seed. I expect much more when I start pushing them.
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1...wipeo6b2ui.jpg
I also like the "CMOS reloaded" feature on the DFI. I have four different complete BIOS settings saved in it. With the DFI if you fail an OC you just hold the power on|reset switch in for a few secs and at the same time turn off the power on the PSU. It resets to default.
The Abit wouldn't be bad for resetting if you could locate and purchase one of their uguru panels to install with the mobo.
Also the BIOS options in the DFI are insane. You can tweak and set pretty much anything you can dream up. It is truly an enthusiast board. If you take the time to learn how to tweak it, its great. I wouldn't waste the money on it though if you are just a plug and play guy or only do light overclocks.
Yup I am testing dfi board also.
I still hope tic tac can do something
Abit also has a system for having several BIOS profiles (F6 on main BIOS page to save & F7 to load).Quote:
Originally Posted by malficar
Hopefully either TicTac or Abit will resolve the ~280HTT issue.
On air now - Got the new Swiftech water block coming tomorrow - will be putting the Cpu and vcards and NB on water. Just to see
is that the vdimm range or did you mean fluctuate 3.19 to 3.21Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
He means the board fluctuates the vdimm from 3.19-3.21 :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hassan
I have the same prob althes has... :(
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6792/bench17cv.png
I ordered 2 40mm chipset fans for $4 each :D , free shipping from here. I hope that lowering the PWM and NB temps will help the OCing on this board. I'd also like to see a bios update that could possibly help. Also, the LTP seems pretty strong in itself, I have it set on 800mhz (i suppose thats 4x283=1132). The trick to getting this far is to adjust your HTT 1.2V voltage and NB 1.8V voltage. I was only able to get 283 FSB with HTT 1.2V@ 1.4V and NB 1.8V@ 2.0V, which is the max for both on this mobo right now. At the very least, I think the HTT voltage could stand to go to 1.5V or even 1.6V, but active cooling would be a MUST. With that, higher FSB speeds can be unleashed. :banana:
Amiteriver, please enlighten us on what your settings are! With 310 FSB, you must know something we don't... :slap:
Anyone see any web reviews of this mobo yet?
Thanks for the info! :) It looks like you're the only one having any luck with this board - except maybe a couple guys on Newegg. I'm not asking for anything miraculous. I just want to run at DDR500 with an Opte 165 - without any additional cooling or voltage. This will be for an HTPC/ gaming rig and my first OC. I'm hoping if I use either the Mushkin XP4000 Redline or the OCZ PC-4000 Platinum EB, this should be easy. I read that with the Asus A8R32-MVP, you need to bump it 5 or 10 mhz at a time just to reach 250. Does the Abit behave the same way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amiteriver
I also read complaints about how the A8R32-MVP handles IRQ assignments - like video card, ethernet controller, and sata/raid controller all sharing the same IRQ. Can anyone comment on how the AT8-32X handles IRQ or maybe post an IRQ screenshot?
One more question! The "External SATAll bracket cable" that comes with the board - Does this give you a hookup for an external sata hdd?
Thanks!
You shouldn't have a problem OCing ram, unless you have G. Skill. The problem right now is the FSB, DDR500 is easily obtainable with stock cpu voltage, but the HTT and 1.8V NB will probably have to be bumped, its not a big deal, but I'd buy atleast one 40mm fan to go where the OTES heapipe is to help with cooling. A little breeze will go a long way.... like 10-15 degrees C a long way. Otherwise, temps will be around 46-48 degrees C at max load with minor voltage increases on the NB and HTT. Other than the FSB, I really like this motherboard, VERY stable.
Had the Asus32 MVP (FSB@214)board and now this one and both seem just the same it seems (no problems). I'm guessing what luck Iv had is because I invested in a 850 turbo cool power supply a while ago. When you start a revved up benchmark you get 0 surge.
Okay I think I get this now? What I want is HTT 250mhz x 9 = 2250mhz - with 1:1 memory divider and mem frequency of 250mhz - plus lower HTT multiplier to 4. So the Opte can handle 2250mhz and the primo PC4000 memory SHOULD handle 250mhz. But the mobo isn't quite up to the 250mhz HTT without voltage adjustments and NB cooling. But shouldn't it handle the 250 x 4 HTT be default, since it's rated at FSB 1000? Is that something a BIOS update can fix or just a limitation of the technology itself? I'm trying to avoid the extra cooling because of the HTPC thing. But if I gotta do it...Quote:
Originally Posted by p4l1ndr0m3
Thanks for putting up with the noob questions! :D