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Like with X800GTO2 some of X1800GTO cards can be modded to X1800XL by BIOS flash. HKEPC used HIS card to make the experiment. Apparently there are 3 to 5 thousands cards with about 90% of chance to get X1800XL for less money :)
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I love it :up:
I'm wondering if this is a hacked bios or just a standard XL bios?
hacked bios, will test tomorrow.
HOLY :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: :O
No doubt about it, X180GTO > 7600GT now :D
Any objections? ;)
is it possible to run two of these in Crossfire mode without a master card on the i975x chipset? I am very interested in this possiblity because I am going to get the AOpen i975x-YDG for my Yonah.
Hoping for a driver or something :(
Supposedly, X1800XT is possible in Crossfire mode without a master card, but I do believe that's only with RD580 (Manta) :p
bah, why must it be on an AMD mobo :(
Intel Yonah/Merom/Conroe + No Master Crossfire = :drool:
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Google translation
Will this work on the Connect3D x1800gto ?
Does that have the 6 power mosfets
The HIS has 6 the sapphire and powercolor have 5.
HKEPC used a HIS and it worked.
only X1800xl change name
That makes a lot of sense actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by eiceman
I mean, x1800xt 256mb'ers are $300 MSRP, but XL's are actually priced HIGHER, with no signs of dropping. X1800XT 512mbers are even showing up a similar price to the x1800xl ($20 more).
Surely ATi doesn't want to put the x1800xl at $200-250, even though that's where it should be, as it would draw users away from the more expensive cards (x1800xt's) that they still have to clear out, while still having room for the cards to fall lower later while still maintaining a profit.
So, what do they do? Alter the product to fit the price range. It seems that this alteration was as easy as a new bios.
Honestly compared to the 512MB X1800XT, the X1800XL at the same speeds just isn't great at High settings.. what I would really love to find is an X1900GTO w/ 512MB of ram.. making an untouchable middle range card
Guys from OCWorkbench have tryied the same with their Powercolor card and had no luck. Apparently there`s might be difference between the brands in cards layout.
Here`s one from Powercolor
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2006/powe...O/1%20copy.jpg
And here`s one from HIS
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/atix1800gto/card.jpg
As you see HIS has 6 MOSFETs, but Powercolor only 5. Probably that`s the answer why it can`t be switched to X1800XL using HIS BIOS. Is there any X1800XL with just 5 MOSFETs ?
Also there`s some info that only cards made till 15th March may be flahsed to XL.
maybe it has to do with the Chip below the Heat sink..
Could be. But there`s possibility to have no luck after using different BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
it didn't work for me either :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper
Pyro what card you have/how many MOSFETs on it ? And what BIOS you used ?
i have a standard reference card sent from ATI, it has only 5 mosfets, looks exactly like the powercolor card shown above
i've tried the hacked bios from hkepc, an asus xl bios and a sapphire xl bios
heres a question, Which one of these is the XL and which one is the GTO ?
I am thinking the one with the 5 MOSFETS is the GTO.. unless I am wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Welz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161004
6 fet is the gto ;) Does that one flash?
Newegg has 3 GTOs available: Powercolor, HIS and Sapphire. Only HIS has 6 fets
I beleave the HIS X1800GTO is realy a X1800XT 256 meg card with a single slot cooler and a BIOS thats been reflashed to core of 500 and mem at 490, and 1 quad turned off. Only the X1800XT has 6 phase power so to me it looks like HIS just took a chunk of there X1800XT 256 meg cards and reflashed and used a single slot cooler to fill there X1800GTO stocks.
HIS X1800XT 256 meg
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...161-171-03.JPG
HIS X1800GTO
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...161-004-03.JPG
HIS X1800XL
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...161-148-03.JPG
I guess before flashing new BIOS clocks must be lowered down via HEX editor/NiBitor or there would be problems booting the card with XT speeds :D
So does anyone know for sure if the newegg HIS GTO flashes? I'm on the verge of ordering...
they say it's like 90%, so it is almost like sure :D. I really think that it would go all the way to 1800XT.
I had no luck with teh sapphire card I have the HIS card will flash this evening.
Is it me, or did anyone else notice that the His that newegg has and the one that was unlocked by hkepc are 2 different cards. So I dunno why people are jumping to conclusions that 90% of unlock. The card that hkepc used is a HIS X1800GTO IceQ 3, which looks like they put a lot of effert into into getting a new cooler designed, while the ones at neweggs just have the cheap XL cooler on them. I'd buy the HIS X1800GTO IceQ 3 just for the cooler :)
I found this over at OCworkbench.
Looks like the key is the GB_PIPE_SELECT.Quote:
Originally posted by Bgnome:
[QB] i just flashed back to my original firmware and took another screenshot with ATITools:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2608/x1800gto0yn.jpg
it looks like the GB_PIPE_SELECT is different than yours:
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2006/news...20x1800gto.jpg
The value changes when flashed with the Sapphire XL bios, as shown in my first post. it is the same value with the 0x7c modified bios.
Modified firmware:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1...0gtomod2kr.jpg
edit: i think my card is running kinda hot. anyone else getting 70C core temps at idle? [/QB]
The modded card that work was a C3D X1800GTO.
The one OCworkbench that didn't unlock was a Powercolor X1800GTO.
The HIS didnt work the one I had from newegg
which bios images did you use and what were your GB_PIPE_SELECT values?
Hi,
Been surfin @ http://www.powercolor.com/main_produ...ail.asp?id=109
Features
• 321 million transistors on 90nm fabrication process
• Ultra-threaded architecture with fast dynamic branching
• Up to sixteen pixel shader processors
• Eight vertex shader processors
• 256-bit 8-channel GDDR3/GDDR4 memory interface
• Native PCI Express x16 bus interface
• Two dual-link DVI output
3rd feature down "Up to sixteen pixel shader processors"
Does this refer to pixel pipelines ???
On my "Old" X1800gto
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x12BB4
Would not unlock and is now Dead and RMA.
Waiting for new card.
Hal2710
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper
My BBA X1800XL has 5 MOSFETs.
yes, we can likely rule out the MOSFETs being an indicator since althes flashed the HIS card and it didnt work.
what bios are people using? i am thinking the HPEKC bios may be fake..
So does there seem to be any particular brand that seems to be unlocking or is it just that one site which seems to be able to have done it? I can get the C3D card cheaper than any other, most brands are around the same price and the HIS is nowhere to be seen (in UK)
Hmmm has anyone noticed that newegg says the conect3D X1800GTO has 16 pipes, or is that just a mistake?
EDIT: Take a look, there site says it has 16 pipes: http://www.connect3d.com/products/pcie_x1800gto.htm
Or am I missing something.
Can someone please post the X1800GTO to XL BIOS from HKEPC? I don't have access to the forum and can't seem to register...
TIA