XP-120, Ninja, Tuniq Tower, various fans, various configurations

Hi all,

I took some time to compare these 3 heatsinks with various configurations to add some evidence to all the questions out there.

I was going to repost it here, but it took me more than 40 minutes to post the first time, so I'm going to link the thread.

XP-120, Ninja, Tuniq Tower, various fans, various configurations.


Comments?
Navig


Happy reading!

very ncie review but i still need to see how th BT will perform

Charts would be nice :)

I'm just providing the data! Feel free to post replies in tabulated form :p:

I feel like I spent enough time on it, and I answered most of the questions I had.

I do regret not having a BT, when I see one on sale maybe I'll pick it up. I'm skeptical, tho, tower style sinks seem to me to just work better for airflow.

To be honest, if I'd probably say that my next Heatsink to purchase would be the Thermalright Tower, with a little push-pull fan action.

i didn't mean to be rude at all

u did a great job there for sure and thank u very much for it

but can u please compare them with the mobo in a vertical position , since most of us use tower cases wehre the mobo is instaled vertically and i think it may have a negative effect on the vooling performance

and did u mean Thermaltake tower ???

Awesome review - some in-case rather than open scenarios may have been useful, but the sheer variety of testing more than made up for that. Now I'm thinking of buying a Tuniq tower.....

I wouldn't mind seeing the BT go up against them though, and if you felt like testing some more, the Noctua NH-12 hasn't had nearly as many reviews as I would like to see, although it would probably be trumped by most of these sinks.

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Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

i didn't mean to be rude at all

u did a great job there for sure and thank u very much for it

but can u please compare them with the mobo in a vertical position , since most of us use tower cases wehre the mobo is instaled vertically and i think it may have a negative effect on the vooling performance

and did u mean Thermaltake tower ???

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I'm thinking he meant either the Tuniq Tower, Thermaltake (personally doubt this one), or the Thermalright HR-01 (have no idea how this thing works). I like the BT cause you can put a side hole in it to provide fresh air, but Ninja/Tower style coolers work better airflow-wise. I'm curious, what would happen if you mounted 2 80 or 120 mm fans in push-pull config on the side of a BT in addition to the top fan? I'm a n00b, so there's probably some sort of conflict I don't know of, but has anyone tried this?

I seriously doubt that motherboard orientation would have any effect. Its been a while since any company has used heatpipes that don't have wicking. I've tested my 2 year old XP-120 and its the same, the Ninja was the same, I have every confidence the Tuniq Tower would be fine.

I was talking about the Thermalright HR-01. It has nice dense finnage, and allows for a push-pull configuration. I know it doesn't currently come with a fan clip, but that hasn't stopped me.

Great review. Thanks! Does anyone know where can I purchase the Tuniq Tower in the US?

I was right :D

@Sam: You can find it at Newegg (Tuniq at Newegg.com, out of stock atm), Performance PCs (Tuniq at Performance-PCs.com), and Frozen CPU (Tuniq at FrozenCPU.com). I'm sure there are others, but I haven't taken much time to look.

So, anyone to answer my question?

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Originally Posted by WC Annihilus

I was right :D

@Sam: You can find it at Newegg (Tuniq at Newegg.com, out of stock atm), Performance PCs (Tuniq at Performance-PCs.com), and Frozen CPU (Tuniq at FrozenCPU.com). I'm sure there are others, but I haven't taken much time to look.

So, anyone to answer my question?

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Ordered, Thanks!

np :D

Thanks for an extensive effort. BT would be nice, but I think the Ninja outperforms it by a few degrees?

I have the BT and was looking into upgrading to the Tuniq Tower 120.

Okay new news. Since everyone's been bugging me, I've poked around and found a cheap refurb Thermaltake Big Typhoon, so stay tuned.

niceeeeeeeeeeeee

thank u very much

Here is some summary data:

This chart illustrates the BEST CPU load temp generated by each fan by each heatsink. To find out exactly which fan combination provided the best CPU load temp, I'll let you consult the original numbers. The 3 rows of depth are the 3 heatsinks:

Blue = Tuniq Tower 120
Red = Scythe Ninja
Yellow = XP-120

Each column represents the fan:
YL= Yate Loon 120x25
Tuniq = Tuniw stock fan 120x25
Delta25 = Delta 120x25
Panaflo = Panaflo 120x38
Sanyo = Sany Denki 120x38
Delta38 = Delta Monster 120x38

The height of each column is the cpu load temp, the specific number is labeled in the column.



Figure#1
Best CPU Load Temp Generated By Each Fan for Each Heatsink


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...tloadtemps.jpg

Very nice job man! I'd love to see the big typhoon in the mix! Keep it up! :D

show me the BT in greeen ;)

people like u keep this community alive

can u please also add the scores with stock fan for Tuniq & BT ==> ignore that cause it is already there, i need to sleep

nice review...especially for air cooling lover like me

Bumped for anyone who might have subscribed.

I've added the Big Typhoon data, click the link above to get all the numbers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...q/Overall2.jpg

enjoy,
navig

sweet results there!

Great job. The old TT BT is still a great cooler.:D

hey is that Big Typhoon lapped? And did you fill the gaps? It'll drop another 5-6 degrees for sure :)

very impressive indeed

we have a winner here a BT with a sanyo fan :)

Thanks for the comparison. I'm considering getting a Tuniq Tower after being unimpressed with the temps from my Ninja (I know onboard sensors can be off, but the idle/load delta is too high anyways.)

Thanks guys. Sorry about the size of graph, but there's a lot of data there.

Filling the gaps didn't get me any performance--it only worsed PWM cooling.

I'll get to lapping it sometime.

I'm still waiting for my ideal heatsink. Give me a Ninja with 2-3x fins and a proper fan bracket.

navig

Thanks for the work, looks good!

Amazing :slobber:

And to so I thought that Thermaltake are only mediocre manufacturer - now did not that shut my gap? :(

Damn. Navig - a very BIG things for the test, mate! ;)

BUMP for awesome work


i think this should be a sticky to show everyone that Tuniq and BT are alsmot the same

I installed a BT yesterday replacing a Zalman 9500 that didn't work too well.
The first time I installed the BT the temps at idle were running at 51c on Easytune, 57c on TAT, a degree higher than the the 9500. So I pulled it back out and 'honed" it down flat using a four sided diamond hone. See this thread http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=122733

When I reinstalled it the temps dropped 8 c on TAT.
Right now with an ambient temp of 22.6 c and the E6300 oc'd to 3.4 1.3Vcore
Easytune shows 34c, TAT is 44 c with the stock fan. I'm going to try a 120 x 38 fan as soon as I get one to see what will happen. After doing this it makes me wonder about reviews like this one,http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...ower120_8.html that show the 9500 beating the BT and the Tuniq beating them all. I now know that the BT is 8 degrees cooler than a 9500 on my system and much quieter too. The 9500 base BTW was very flat and has a mirror finish on it compared to my BT that now has a flat base and dull finish on it. The 9500 is going back to Fry's today. Something else I tried was putting a 80MM fan drawing air on the underside/inside of the BT. This helped a little bit by a few degrees but I think I'll just get a faster 120mm.



http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/coole...0/image005.png

dude it is known that zalman's 9500 is very good ONLY for single core cpu

but when u put it on top of a HOT dual core it svcks, unlike the huge Bt or Tuniq or Infinity or Ninja , they shine on hot cpus

so this review was done using a single cpu ;)

Wow awesome job Navig. I'm surpised theres isn't more attention on this thread. So if the Big Typhoon was paired with Sanyos and the ramsink mod wouldn't it effectively beat the Tuniq based on these results? or does having dual core processors make it different?

very nice review.!!

isn't the scythe infinity a bit better than the ninja and maybe beats the tuniq tower?

This just shows how much difference the fan can make. The stock fans that come with HSF's suck, which is why heatsink roundups typically aren't that useful. Thermaltake makes great heatsinks, but their fans suck. In a bad way.

I'd kind of like to see the Asetek Vapochill Micro Extreme set up the same way, but I doubt our hallowed reviewer wants to devote any more time or money to the project.

nice review dude thanks

can the mods please stick this thread cause it si very helpful and will reduce the number of threads created every day with one question " what is the best h/s "

how on earth is a ttbt getting same load temps as a tuniq?

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Originally Posted by ryaan

how on earth is a ttbt getting same load temps as a tuniq?

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This is single core, I believe OC'd Conroe's are a whole different ball of wax.

Hi all,

Guess this thread is still kicking it. We may really be pushing the borders of air heatsinks as we know it.

When I originally made the thread, dual cores were not really available (or budget wise to me at least), and 2 top contenders, Thermalright 120 and the Scythe Infinity didn't even exist yet.

Unfortunately, now I've moved on and wouldn't be able to recreate the circumstances of all these benchmarks. I could do another roundup, maybe a little more focused! I'll do so if I can pick up a Thermalright and an Infinity for a decent price.

However, another problem is that I think my current Conroe system may run to cool to show a spread among these heatsinks!

Currently I'm running an e6600 9*370 on an aw9d-max, and I'm at the limits of my current RAM and/or northbridge. Voltages are still stock, and I'm getting about 42c load by orthos. This is being cooled by the same TTBT, however its been lapped (which dropped a definite 2c on idle and load temps for me), topped with the Delta VWH running at about 2x1100 rpms.

My Prescott definitely ran much hotter!

Since this is my thread, I'll some gratuitous links!

pron for hardware geeks--ttbt lapped.

The almost completed state of the benching platform I used for this testing.

the thermalright ultra-120 @ svc is for 39$ ;)

Ive never seen any reviews with the Zalman beating the TT-BT, it looks like it should but it dont, and to above poster, your temps were too high after mounting your TT-BT even without it lapped, sometimes peeps cant get a good mount on it, seems you are one of them.

The TT-BT was ther king but not any longer but no shame in that cause its over 1 year old and in stock form its very quiet and the ones beating it now really are big ugly monsters.

Trust me, Tuniq Tower all the way!!! :D

Def. vote sticky for this thread. It shows that a comparison between two HSF's with stock fans installed is like comparing apples to orangutans. The different fans add too many variables.
I would like to see some industrious forumites repeat the tests with a Smithfield or even a Kentsfield to see how much difference the extra cores will really make.

So at the end of the day when using a non loud fan ( something like the same fan as the BT ) which would probably give the best temps between the Ninja Plus B , Infinity and BT

If ya look at yonder graph, you'll see the Infinity isn't on there. Between the Ninja and the BT, the Yate Loon D12-SL performed best on the BT.

Whats the technical reason why the BT performs so well despite having lesser fins and heatpipes?
also how does the CNPS 9700-NT fair against these coolers?

a bump for a nice review

Would love to se a Tuniq tower 120 vs some of ZeroTherms products http://www.zerotherm.net/eng/product/index.asp


look at Vr zones show down betwean The Noctua NH-U12F, Scythe Infinity and Ninja.
All 3 had a Silverstonetek FM121 120mm Fan (39.5dBa, 110CFM).

http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4166&s=4

BTF 90 = Heat Dissipation Area 4,400 ㎠ :D

wow this thread PWNs, all thought we do need someone to test some of todays popular HSFs...

The tuniq tower is lookin like it still pwns, but i wanna see some definate results w/ a conroe and the BT and ninja.