New OCZ PC-4000 EL DDR Platinum XTC 2GB ic's?

Anyone know what chips in these?:

http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2006/151

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...l_platinum_xtc

"To make this premium solution more readily available to gamers, the PC-4000 EL Platinum XTC parts will be offered at a lower price point than its predecessor, the PC-4000 Platinum EB series. "

With those timings, could be UCCC or Infineon.

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Originally Posted by bito

With those timings, could be UCCC or Infineon.

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why? uccc is almost always 3-4-3 or 3-4-4, while infineon, which they already have a line of, is 3-3-2. i'm guessing micron for now, but we'll see.

Maybe, since crucial pulled back on the balistix, maybe micron has made supply available agin of the new rev like in those team sticks. then again who knows, might try a set for the heck of it. Can you see the ic's through those perfiorated spreaders they use now?

Here is my guess what is happening:

the "old" EB Platinum came PC4000 3-3-2-8 specified and had Infineon CE-6, as did Mushkin Redline and G.Skill ZX. As we know, Mushkin and G.Skill ran into problems with these sticks with game stability and generally degrading performance as newer chips came in. OCZ didn't deliver bad sticks but they had availability problems. So obviously Infineon couldn't deliver enough good enough chips.

It seems to me that OCZ just relaxed the timings a little so that the CE-6 they get can meet the new spec and "re-release" the EB Platinum kit with new spec and new heatspreader.

Independently of whether the theory is correct, it certainly rubs me the wrong way how they advertise the new kit as having sensationally low timings when their own previous kit had better timings. Not that 3-3-3 versus 3-3-2 matter but still.

I would hope they were Micron -5B F or other revision chips, but the reality of the matter is that Micron simply isn't producing enough of these chips at the moment to supply even Teamgroup let alone OCZ as well.

Guys, we have to keep testing and releasing new products.

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We have to keep moving forward and providing good IC's for our competitors to copy....LOL

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Originally Posted by Tony

Guys, we have to keep testing and releasing new products.

Also....
We have to keep moving forward and providing good IC's for our competitors to copy....LOL

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So i guess that means that this is a new IC and not CE-6's with looser timings as uOpt suggested?

Can't wait to see a review on their overclockability - you got a pair you could show us Tony? :D

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Originally Posted by Tony

Guys, we have to keep testing and releasing new products.

Also....
We have to keep moving forward and providing good IC's for our competitors to copy....LOL

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hehehe, though if my hunch is correct, you've been beaten to the punch ever so slightly ;)
i'll be assuming that the initial batches of these sticks will also be blank ic's? :toast:

So, Tony, are you saying these are not Infineon? ;)

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Originally Posted by xgman

So, Tony, are you saying these are not Infineon? ;)

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from what he said, there's no way to know. it could be infineon. not necessarily CE-6, but it could be infineon :D

It's Infineon or Micron. I just don't see how it could be Micron, unless the reason for Team's lack of supply is because OCZ snapped em all up. ;)

Well I hope it is Micron.

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Originally Posted by xgman

Well I hope it is Micron.

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Yea, that'd be sick. OCZ brainpower micron. :)

So are the EB's that you can buy now these new sticks?

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Originally Posted by chunkylover77

So are the EB's that you can buy now these new sticks?

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no, the EB remains what EB always was. this is EL ;)

I see this memory is under the extended voltage warranty? Is this gonna be the type of ram that requires 3.2v-3.6v DRAM Voltage to get the most outta them? Or will it see it's best performance in the 3.0v range?

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Originally Posted by EnJoY

It's Infineon or Micron. I just don't see how it could be Micron, unless the reason for Team's lack of supply is because OCZ snapped em all up. ;)

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I was thinking the same thing.

When will it be available?

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Originally Posted by situman

When will it be available?

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I heard starting maybe the end of this week.

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Originally Posted by cmay119

I see this memory is under the extended voltage warranty? Is this gonna be the type of ram that requires 3.2v-3.6v DRAM Voltage to get the most outta them? Or will it see it's best performance in the 3.0v range?

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i've never seen a 64mb ic like more than 3v.

Alright cool. Just makin' sure since it is under the EVP. :)

Any idea when/where these are gonna be available? Looks like very good stuff.

Any word on these? I want to see some overclocking results :P

i want some

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Originally Posted by uOpt

It seems to me that OCZ just relaxed the timings a little so that the CE-6 they get can meet the new spec and "re-release" the EB Platinum kit with new spec and new heatspreader.

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no, relaxing Trp from 2 to 3 on Infineon ICs doesn't gain anything.

on Infineon, you set Trcd=3 & Trp=2 and no need to touch those timings any more. you just relax Cas latency and play with Vdimm if necessary.

Tony... in this case it seems you are the ones who copy from competitor(s). ;)

319€ here in germany

From where ??