WR or not?
2x512mb mushkin lv 2 pc3500
max @ 1m = 282mhz 2-2-2-5 :D
ambient temp about 10°C
vdimm @ 3,73v @ AIR
http://people.freenet.de/destro/superpi/23.969sek-t.jpg
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WR or not?
2x512mb mushkin lv 2 pc3500
max @ 1m = 282mhz 2-2-2-5 :D
ambient temp about 10°C
vdimm @ 3,73v @ AIR
http://people.freenet.de/destro/superpi/23.969sek-t.jpg
Not WR, but top3, and thereby bumped me out of top3 :)
Im at 277.7mhz - 3.63v, air
Lastviking at 295mhz I think... :S - Onepagebook at 285mhz..
But dude, your picture tells your lying..
Your mem runs:
259,8mhz....
3377.9/13 = 259,8
BUT - DAMN thats one kickass SPI 1M time for 3377.9mhz CPU !
ehm...its a 183 divider.....
3377,9/12 = 281,5mhz
2x512mb bh-5 @ 295mhz @ AIR ??? :eek: :slobber:
it says /13 on the picture :\ and you havnt got a cpu-z validation on it :S - But yeah, I think 295 was what he hit :) - could be 293 mhz though, I dont remember...Quote:
Originally Posted by -De$troyeR-
does cpu-z 1.32 report the right ratio?
not quite, I think I had 296.5 1:1 the other days for 1m, I ca di like 285mhz for 4m I think
certainly, anything over 280mhz for bh-5(or utt) is really amazing stuff. Definitely the awesome job!!:)
That is some impressive 3700+/LvL2 combo you have there, man! Everything on that 3.4GHz screen is just perfect: kick a$$ CPU clocks on water, awesome RAM clocks and very fast 1M to top it off :up: :toast:
Just art :fact:
woah that's very nice indeed!
Holy crap 3.4ghz on water? That's crazyness! Congrats on the killer hardware and clocks.
hmm but that was with 2x256mb if i´m are not wrong :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
"WR" with 2x256mb is 302mhz (Lasviking)
"WR" with 2x512mb is 298mhz(not sure about this i have not get any super pi1m from him yet)
with 2x512mb i´m are @ 293mhz 3.85v
Nice results, but I have two kits that say that isn't a WR :)Quote:
Originally Posted by -De$troyeR-
2X512MB Corsair 3500C2 - 285Mhz 3.86V on P4GD1 (for now :) )
2X512MB G.Skill 1GBGH - 286Mhz 3.92V on DFI Ultra-D
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6275/2861yp.th.jpg
And here is mine
http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/u...b2x512mbdc.JPG
Maybe you are in Top10 if you are lucky ;)
thx :)
@ lastviking
very awesome ram. :slobber:
-De$troyeR-,
Your CPU-Z is right.QTFQuote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Combination of multiplier 11 + divider 183 (multi + 1) is bugged, divider 166 (multi + 2) is used instead.
:(
damn good job dude :banana: :toast:
Awesome :)
nice de$troyer!
i think you need phase change now ;)
:confused: 32M.........???
:toast:
I saw your time in the hwbot thread last night, that is just fantastic, even more so on air.
OFF
to LV
did you get my last pms?!
omg, wonderfull time. :clap: good tweaking thereQuote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
You ran UTT at 3.92V!?!? You sir, have king kong sized testicles :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
:woot:
really good, but why your spi shows "real memory=90755072"??
@afireinside
i've some UTT since 1 year and for bench session i run them @ 3,9/4,0V... and they are all alive....:) :D
Really? Damn... I had a set drop dead at 3.5 :( Crap just randomly dies.
dont confuse CH-UTT with BH-UTT.
CH cannot handle volts and will eventually die ;)
ehm.... a pair of mine is CH 'cos they need 3,1v to do 200 2-2-2 and over 3,5v they are not fully stable....guys you are really making me think i'm lucky! (ehm... my bad english.... dunno if the grammatic is right...:D )
Your stuff is PC4000 Redline - UTT-CH not UTT-BH5...Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
EDIT: STEvil beat me to it :)
If you had a x11 multi CPU you would know that CPU-Z is wrong in reporting RAM frequency @ x11 div183 ;) I had done a lot of benching with my SD 3700+ and my only conclusion was that there is no "div180" - only div183. Everest shows true RAM speed ;) It's easy to prove - run any benchmark @ x11 "div180" and x12 div200... Results will be identical...Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
I also PMed Franck long time ago about it and that's what he said: "The 180MHz setting is more doubtful. In fact I assume that the controller does not allow to go at more than 180, and in your case a 12x ratio would mean 183MHz. So the question is : is the limit 180 or 183 ? I don't know, as this setting is kind of "not official". That's why until now, he left it alone :(
If you guys want to break RAM speed records for 1M, could you at least try to get a decent time :D Micutzu, your 1M is very slow for such clocks :p: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
maybe tomorrow ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
:toast:
nope, pm's = disable ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by \carting_freak
maxmem = 87mb ;) (smaller windows)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zac89
maxmem = 104mb about 0,2sek slower.........
As STEvil and Bachus said, it's BH-UTT and can handle volts like mad. I've ran them at 3.9V 24/7 for some time ... even went a little over 4V for this screenshot:Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1104531701
He is probably using Maxmem tweak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zac89
i was lead to beleive that this was original bh-5.
those are really good scores, and HIGH volts. good job
Second that! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
Can you please show us screens ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
I've done 289.9Mhz spi1m with my 2x512mo sticks :) (3.9V)
Did you use active cooling on the RAM for this?
I have same RAM that I haven't really tried to push yet... wonder how they would do in my current rig.... still like the idea of 2 Gb meory for every day stuff
Of course, everyone use fans ;)
My oldskool BH-5 doesn't even heat up while running memtest #5 at 3.4v, I know it's nowhere near 3.9v, but I'd expect them to at least get warm. But it's still best to keep a fan over the RAM just to be safe...Quote:
Originally Posted by jmax_oc
Xm i aggree on that but i cannot explain the fact why OCZ gives warranty for max vdimm for BH-die(GOLD) at 3.1 and for CH-die 3.6(VX).Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
And so many here run GOLD VX for 3.3-3.4 & above every day and BH for 3.1 @ 240 max for 24/7.
The only reason i am suspect (except the fact that CH need a lot voltage to run at 250 2-2-2 & so OCZ had to support high vdimm in order these sticks to run actually at specs) is to push the market to buy CH more than BH.
My opinion & from old BH experience is that BH can handle up to 4Volts( it is written in Winbond manuals) and CH less (i do not know exactly).
So OCZ should reverse the supported vimm for GOLD VX & GOLD GX.
Both are rated for max 3.6V, but BH is on larger fabrication process (175nm) compared to CH (130nm), that's why it can handle more volts.
Winbond BH
Winbond CH
Many CH -UTT sticks have died becuse of high vdimm but i stil have not seen so many dead old bh5 or bh5 -utt that have died by high vdimm, i have realy triend to kill 1 kit of bh5 -utt with high vdimm but it didnt work :p: (high is 3.9vdimm+)
The most sticks thas die that have Ch - utt is muskin redline pc4000 sticks.
You are right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
By the way i had these manuals a long ago.
Thank u for find them again.
So is there any explanation why GX do not have 3.6Vdimm warranty protection?
do you use different values for 1M/8M/32M runsQuote:
Originally Posted by -De$troyeR-
nice results :toast:
ICs not equal PCB! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
I had the opinion that both are Brainpower PCB 808.
Am i missing something?
Other manufacters do not have a vdimm limited warranty so can someone put as much as he wants without voiding!!?? :p:
What do you mean by "the controller does not allow to go at more than 180.." 200 divider works fine @ 11 multi its true 1:1. Use the A64 mem calculator to calculate the tricky 183 divider. Destroyers mem did "only" run @ 261 Mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
http://i2.tinypic.com/qnjw3c.jpg
Hmm mines get really hot at 3.4v in same test. And my case has one lid open, with 4xcase fans + 1 fan over pwmic + 1 fan over ram. Can it be such a difference between our temps? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by masterofpuppets
//EDIT: @beta67: I think that's correct, I run the config in my sig: 289x9, 183 (180 in BIOS) divider and the ram runs at 260mhz. The problem is CPU-Z updates voltages and cpu speeds "on the fly" but to see a divider/mem speed change you have to close and reopen? Not sure, I use too many programs to know exactly how everyone works :D For example:
Smartguardian: reads fan speeds on the fly, needs to reopen to see changes in cpu voltage
MBM5: reads fan speeds, needs to reopen to see changes in cpu voltage and speed
Clockgen: changes htt on the fly, needs to reopen to see changes in mem divider.
The Clockgen+CPU-Z issue is really curious, because you can end being able to screenshot the memory at 300+ 2-2-2-5 if you change the divider to a lower one (lets say 166) and raising HTT in Clockgen without closing Clockgen nor CPU-Z.
I'm currently at work, but I will try to take the screenshot at home and post it to prove (or not, I'm not 100% sure in CPU-Z)
It runs with 283MHz...! Try to catch this SuperPi with "real" 260MHz... Dunno, why the people do not believe this. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by beta67
11 x 200 = 2200 | 2200 / 183 = 12,02 ~= 12 | 11 x 309 = 3400 | 3400 / 12 = 283,33MHz
Hi funkflix,Quote:
Originally Posted by funkflix
check this link:
http://math.gogar.com/athlon64.cgi?htt=307&showtable=1
Destroyer's RAM really "only" ran at ~260MHz. Even though it ran slower than he thought, it's still a impressive result and a really good SP time. ;)
Check the bottom of the page where this quote can be read:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogar's Athlon 64 OC Optimizer
Nope! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by celemine1Gig
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/su...divider_1M.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/su...divider_1M.jpg
SuperPi don't lie.
If you think so...
Yes i do! :)
Some more benches -
11 x 295 = 3245MHz | Divider = 183
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...183divider.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...183divider.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...183divider.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...183divider.jpg
10 x 325 = 3250MHz | Divider = 166
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...166divider.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...166divider.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...166divider.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...166divider.jpg
Now with 3250MHz and a real ramclock of 250MHz!
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...166divider.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...166divider.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...166divider.jpg
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...166divider.jpg
- and finally the 1M run from page 2 :
http://213.202.211.105/gravedigga/di...166divider.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/5974/cpuz7pf.jpg
easily checked with the vdimm. if it were 231 on the bh-5 they should run with 3-3.1v. but i need 3,3v to get this memtest / primestable!
I was refering to what Franck (creator of CPU-Z and Clockgen) assumes. This directly refers to what Oscar Wu told us in one of his threads, about memory dividers:Quote:
Originally Posted by beta67
If 183 is in fact 183.333333... then (200x11)/183.333333 = 12.000000Quote:
Originally Posted by OSKAR_WU
Franck, most likely takes this value as 183.000000, so he gets (200x11)/183.000000 = 12.021857 and in result ~13.
I learned it the hard way months back (Aug 2005) with my 3700+ when I wanted to bench SPi32M @ 307x11 div183. I could not do it for the life or me and was puzzled because CPU-Z was showing 259MHz. Memory was 32M-stable up to 278MHz with div200. After a while I figured that something is not right and did some benching... After that, it was clear to me why I could not even boot at 307x11 div183 - because RAM in reality was running @ 281Mhz...
That is the other point u can proof it's not 250MHz, like in my screens. I normally do not need + 3,5V for 250MHz.. :cool:
this is obviously a 12 divider..........and whoever doesn't believe it has some issues :stick:
Then who tells Gogar, and all the other people who wrote those little apps to help calculate the real mem frequency, that there's an error in their calculation?