Team Xtreem 2x512MB DDR500 UTT-BH5 OCing Report - 2 sets tested -> SPi32M @ 279MHz!!!

Supthere XSers :D

I'm sure that those of you keeping track of what happens in Xtreme Bandwidth, noticed a new (or not so new) kid on the XS block - TeamGroup. Almost a month ago, s7e9h3n gave us his first look into PC4000 UTT-BH5 but those were provided directly by TeamGroup. Other memory manufacturers (OCZ, Mushkin, G.Skill, Corsair, etc) do that as well so this is nothing new. In those cases there's always talk about hand-picking and questions if ocing results from retail kits will match those previewed. Unfortunately, at this moment availability in US is "not quite there yet" but dogsx2, one of the XS members managed to order 2 kits from ComputerGiants, which were then delivered to him by TeamResearch Inc. Soon after, he asked me to do other XS'ers a favor and run an OCing Report on both of them. Apparently, he just did not have enough time or patience, or both :) But let's not forget to give it up to him for making this OCing Report possible :clap:

After this short introduction, let's get going, shall we? :cool:

Below, are the 2 sets I'm gonna be playing with, packaged and ready. Honestly, I really like this packaging - it's small, modules fit tightly and it feels more secure than standard plastic handler.

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/sc...2M500HC2_1.jpg

Here, all 4 modules. As you can see, serial number is the same on both modules from each kit. I will be testing those in pairs, just like it's assumed. No each-stick-separate type of testing here...

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/sc...2M500HC2_2.jpg

For this OCing Report, I'm gonna be testing stability with: SuperPi Mod1.5 32M, Memtest For Windows, SP2004. At this moment I'm without "capable" video card (back to R7000 PCI for now :(), so no 3D benchmarks. Also, I decided to test both kits at x10 multiplier in case there are voices that divider might impair IMC's ability to clock RAM higher ;) I have a headache from those slow CPU clocks and painfully long 32M times :lol:


Part I

Dual kit #20050016641


SPi32M @ 250x10=2500MHz DDR500 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 260x10=2600MHz DDR520 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 265x10=2650MHz DDR530 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 270x10=2700MHz DDR540 5-2-2-2.0-1T

Memtest For Windows, 600%/60mins @ 270x10=2700MHz DDR540 5-2-2-2.0-1T

90 mins SP2004 LargeFFT 900MB used @ 270x10=2700MHz DDR540 5-2-2-2.0-1T


This kit, was pretty much a very smooth ride. Rated DDR500 was achieved with 3.2v in BIOS (3.24v w/DMM). Pretty "tight" all the way up to 265MHz. I had to go TWTR=2 for SPi to complete @ 270Mhz and voltage needed was 3.70 + 0.03v (3.76 w/DMM). Unfortunately, I was not able to complete 32M @ 271MHz. Relaxing timmings and 3.8v in BIOS did not help at this moment.


Update #1: SPi32M @ 272Mhz from every possible angle :lol:

SPi32M @ 272x10=2720MHz DDR544 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 300x10=3000MHz DDR544 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 327x10=3270MHz DDR544 5-2-2-2.0-1T ---> Photos: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10


Update #2: SPi1M @ 277Mhz

SPi1M @ 277x10=2770MHz DDR554 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi1M @ 333x10=3330MHz DDR554 5-2-2-2.0-1T


Update #3: SPi32M @ 275 & 276MHz :fact:

SPi32M @ 276x10=2760MHz DDR552 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 303x10=3030MHz DDR550 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 330x10=3300MHz DDR550 5-2-2-2.0-1T ---> Photos: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10


Update #4: SPi32M @ 277MHz (same RAM clock as OPB's) :toast:

SPi32M @ 277x10=2770MHz DDR554 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 332x10=3320MHz DDR552 5-2-2-2.0-1T


Update #5: SPi32M @ 279MHz (from every possible angle, again) :D

SPi32M @ 279x10=2790MHz DDR558 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 279x10=2790MHz DDR558 5-2-2-2.0-1T ---> Photos: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14

SPi32M @ 307x10=3070MHz DDR558 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 335x10=3350MHz DDR558 5-2-2-2.0-1T


Dual kit #20050016637


SPi32M @ 250x10=2500MHz DDR500 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 260x10=2600MHz DDR520 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 265x10=2650MHz DDR530 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 268x10=2680MHz DDR536 5-2-2-2.0-1T

Memtest For Windows, 627%/67mins @ 267x10=2670MHz DDR534 5-2-2-2.0-1T

90 mins SP2004 LargeFFT 900MB used @ 265x10=2650MHz DDR540 5-2-2-2.0-1T


This set, is slightly weaker. It required a bit more voltage to reach DDR500 and it got a bit rocky above 267MHz. For SPi32M to pass @ 268MHz I had to relax timmings slightly and 3.7v (3.74v w/DMM) was needed for that. I really troed to hit that magic "270MHz" mark but it was just not happening. Memtest For windows started producing errors @ 268Mhz just after 10% mark.

I hope I will be able to play a little bit more with those sets throughout the weekend, I will try to work on some 1M calculations and Pifast as well for those of you "sprint-junkies" :p:


Part II

Dual kit #20050016641 + #20050016637

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/sc...2M500HC2_3.jpg


SPi32M @ 300x10=3000MHz DDR500 5-2-2-2.0-2T

SPi32M @ 312x10=3120MHz DDR520 5-2-2-2.0-2T

SPi32M @ 318x10=3180MHz DDR530 5-2-2-2.0-2T


Update1: SPi32M @ 266Mhz

SPi32M @ 266x10=2660MHz DDR532 5-2-2-2.0-2T

SPi32M @ 320x10=3200MHz DDR532 5-2-2-2.0-2T


Conclusion


I have personally played with 4 kits of 2x512MB UTT-BH5 and 2 kits of UTT-CH5. Based on that, plus results from other OCers around, I will say that one set turned out to be quite impressive (very stable 270MHz) and the other, about average. That's OCers life, right? :lol: I would imagine this dual kit is not going to be available in large quantities as there is not much time left to still sell enthusiast 2x512MB DDR RAM - Socket AM2 is just around the corner. But if availability in US gets better within next few weeks there will still be a chance to bank on it.

Thanks again to dogsx2 and to all of you guys for dropping by :toast:
Enjoy :peace:

I got set 2x512 PC4000 BH-5 from ComputerGiants 1 week past.This kit does 270 with FX 57 or Opty 175 SuperPi 32m or Prime just fine.Won't do 3D over 245 no matter what settings.
Tried in Ultra-d,Expert and Sapphire pure.

Can you run some 3D with yours?

Nice review. I would pick up a set but benching ram is not a reality for me so I'm thinking about settling for some PC4000 Cronus 2gig. Team has done some very nice things with oc'ing since they hit the scene.

OPB's thought;)

What can I say bro? :D I think the Xtreme Pi Freak / UberMod said it all:D

With that Opty 146 doing that performance, I would say it's fair enough; there is no doubt about Michael 's OC perspective and skill. Just wondering how Michael set the strength up under bios? That would be highly appreciate if you can share with us that information.


OPB

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Originally Posted by RAMMIE

I got set 2x512 PC4000 BH-5 from ComputerGiants 1 week past.This kit does 270 with FX 57 or Opty 175 SuperPi 32m or Prime just fine.Won't do 3D over 245 no matter what settings.
Tried in Ultra-d,Expert and Sapphire pure.

Can you run some 3D with yours?

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Here's some 3d with my set:
14x270
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...aker/46855.jpg

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...0/19007-03.jpg

@ Bachus - You a believer yet? ;)

I've personally had some nice experience with Team TCCD before, and as far as hearing from people here in XS, looks like these UTT-BH5 yields as good as the now unavailable Mushkin UTT-CH5. Guess this will be people's last chance to buy themselves a nice pair of UTT-BH5. ;)

Thanks for sharing your valuble test results with us. :toast:

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Here's some 3d with my set:
14x270
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...aker/46855.jpg

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...0/19007-03.jpg

@ Bachus - You a believer yet? ;)

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I believe, but you are...
Cheater..:banana3: :CTF: :horse:
you are cheating about 2 fsb there:D

** forgot to tell one thing, for those who just can't do over 270fsb,
that'd be steve's pair is heatspreader off, that why I just hate those eye-candy.

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

I believe, but you are...
Cheater..:banana3: :CTF: :horse:
you are cheating about 2 fsb there:D

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I really didn't remember what EXACT fsb I was running so I used some math skills I learned in 2nd grade - 3781/14= 270.0714285.......:slap: :p:

Thanks to dogsx2 and bachus_anonym for sharing info on the Team Reseach TXDR1024M500HC2DC from ComputerGiant.

EDIT: Fixed Link. Sorry.:slash:

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Originally Posted by RAMMIE

I got set 2x512 PC4000 BH-5 from ComputerGiants 1 week past.This kit does 270 with FX 57 or Opty 175 SuperPi 32m or Prime just fine.Won't do 3D over 245 no matter what settings. Tried in Ultra-d,Expert and Sapphire pure. Can you run some 3D with yours?

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Unfortunately (as I mentioned above) I will not be able to give you any 3D results at this moment. But I must admit, what you're experiencing it's quite odd... :shrug:

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Nice review.

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Thanks :toast:

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

With that Opty 146 doing that performance, I would say it's fair enough; there is no doubt about Michael 's OC perspective and skill. Just wondering how Michael set the strength up under bios? That would be highly appreciate if you can share with us that information.

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Thanks, Kevin :) As to your question... ALL of the completed results, from both sets, were done with Drive & Data Strength set @ AUTO/AUTO :) After I reached max SPi32M (268 & 270) I tried all of the combinations, from 4/1 to 8/3, haha! It does not seem to do anything good at all...

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

@ Bachus - You a believer yet? ;)

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Haha, it has not really been about believing or not. I just want to ensure that people know what to expect when buying RAM. The more results the better ;) But I have a strong feeling that its a limited amount of those sets that are capable of ~275MHz in 32M. Just like wiith any other brand of modules based on UTT-BH5...

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Originally Posted by formyfaith

Guess this will be people's last chance to buy themselves a nice pair of UTT-BH5. ;) Thanks for sharing your valuble test results with us. :toast:

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True! As far as I've seen, at the moment only G.Skill and TeamGroup have UTT still available for purchase.

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Originally Posted by gundamit

Thanks to dogsx2 and bachus_anonym for sharing info (...)

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On my and dogsx2 behalf, no problem. Fred made it possible :up:

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I'm still working on those modules, as we speak... I'm gonna have some "extras" coming up soon ;)

Nice Tests Bachus!

my Team pc4000 is in arrive. :)

luigi

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Originally Posted by gigi77

Nice Tests Bachus! my Team pc4000 is in arrive. :)
luigi

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Thanks Luigi :) Let us know about your results, please.

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Taaadaammm!!! Part II added ;)

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Haha, it has not really been about believing or not. I just want to ensure that people know what to expect when buying RAM. The more results the better ;) But I have a strong feeling that its a limited amount of those sets that are capable of ~275MHz in 32M. Just like wiith any other brand of modules based on UTT-BH5...

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Mine haven't even run 275Mhz 32M.......yet ;)

As always, your the best when it comes to testing ram and documenting it. I really want to thank you for the time and effort it took to test them. Adding the 4 sticks was great. Thanks

fred

Nice tests B_A :)

Will do some testing with my kit today/tomorrow. Try to get 275MHz 32M :D

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Originally Posted by gundamit

Thanks to dogsx2 and bachus_anonym for sharing info on the Team Reseach TXDR1024M400HC2DC from ComputerGiant.

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Hmm i almost did a mistake becuse of your link.. dont link to pc3200 sticks :stick:

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

Hmm i almost did a mistake becuse of your link.. dont link to pc3200 sticks :stick:

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Didn't $135.99 tell you these can't be pc4000's? Or was that what told you these can't be pc4000's?

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Originally Posted by dogsx2

Didn't $135.99 tell you these can't be pc4000's? Or was that what told you these can't be pc4000's?

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TXDR1024M400HC2DC
New Team Reseach Overclocked Extreme Memory 1GB PC3200 DDR400MHz Great For Gaming - Gamers extreme memory to maximize your game performance

If you click on the link, yes the price is to low but if someone is in hury to buy the pc4000 sticks and see the link they can miss that, the sticks in the link is pc3200.

Whoops. I screwed the pooch. Sorry. Link fixed.

AWESOME RESULTS!! i need to keep an eye on Team Xtreem and my bank balance, see which outweighs the other :D

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

As far as I've seen, at the moment only G.Skill and TeamGroup have UTT still available for purchase.

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your forgetting Centon and OCZ, Centon has some pc4000 and pc3200 UTT out and OCZ has the GX and XTC pc3200 and pc3500 stuff out.

Nice results youve got there Bachus. :toast: I'll be getting two sets of Teamgroup, the pc4800 tccd and the pc3200 utt, in next week for testing from tankguys. I hope my results are as good as yours, I'll be posting them.

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Originally Posted by CCUABIDExORxDIE

your forgetting Centon and OCZ, Centon has some pc4000 and pc3200 UTT out and OCZ has the GX and XTC pc3200 and pc3500 stuff out.

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and g.skill GH ;)

edit: i gotta learn to read :slapass: :stick:

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

and g.skill GH ;)

edit: i gotta learn to read :slapass: :stick:

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he said gskill?

edit: i gotta learn to not show you your mistakes.

Nice review :P

Would DRR600 4x512 2-2-2-5-2T kick DDR600 2x1G 3-3-3-8 in teh arse?:p:

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

and g.skill GH ;)

edit: i gotta learn to read :slapass: :stick:

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I afraid that Teamgroup got newer and ... than GH and I assume they might just almost running out of that IC;) AFAIK 90%;)

Alright, time for some more action :D

Maybe this RAM is not too bad, after all :lol: :toast: I have added 3 updates to my initial post:

- finally, I got some SPi32M action @ 272Mhz :banana:
- then SPi1M @ 277Mhz - not bad, but not earth-shattering either... :up:
- and slightly better take on 4 DIMMs @ 266MHz :banana:

Heatspreaders are still ON but dogsx2 gave me a GO to pul them off. Apparently (from what Kevin said) it will not void warranty so I might try that tommorow. I kind of doubt it will make any important difference, though ;)

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Originally Posted by DesertShooter

Nice tests B_A :) Will do some testing with my kit today/tomorrow. Try to get 275MHz 32M :D

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Thanks and good luck for 275MHz... In the meantime check out my time @ 3GHz and compare to yours :) :p:

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Originally Posted by CCUABIDExORxDIE

AWESOME RESULTS!! (...) your forgetting Centon and OCZ, Centon has some pc4000 and pc3200 UTT out and OCZ has the GX and XTC pc3200 and pc3500 stuff out.

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Thanks a lot! I'm glad you like it, man :) As to UTT-BH5, then my bad, you're right... I forgot that Directron still has OCZ GX and Centon PC4000 can be still purchased as well :toast:

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Originally Posted by EnJoY

Nice results youve got there Bachus. :toast: I'll be getting two sets of Teamgroup, the pc4800 tccd and the pc3200 utt, in next week for testing from tankguys. I hope my results are as good as yours, I'll be posting them.

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Looking forward to your results :)

I'm hoping with the HS off you can get to 274-275 but even if you don't get anymore MHz, 272 is pretty good. I knew I asked the right guy to test them. :D Pull out all the tricks in your bag when you take the HS off and show us 274-275:banana:

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Originally Posted by dogsx2

I'm hoping with the HS off you can get to 274-275 but even if you don't get anymore MHz, 272 is pretty good. I knew I asked the right guy to test them. :D Pull out all the tricks in your bag when you take the HS off and show us 274-275:banana:

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Fred, my "bag of tricks" is now officially empty" :lol: Check out Update #3 :banana: After what I've seen today I decided against pulling heatspreaders off ;) I don't think it will help...

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Maybe this RAM is not too bad, after all :lol: :toast:

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Why was there any doubt to start with? ;) Nice work......:toast:

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Fred, my "bag of tricks" is now officially empty" :lol: Check out Update #3 :banana: After what I've seen today I decided against pulling heatspreaders off ;) I don't think it will help...

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:woot: :woot: :woot:

They always say if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch. I stayed on the porch and gave it to the big dog to run with it. Great job. Very.very professional with the pictures and ss. I just knew there was some more in the bag of tricks. Thanks for the hard work.

fred

very very impressive. almost got the WR with those sticks. looks like team groups ram is gonna be the new enthusiasts choice.

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Fred, my "bag of tricks" is now officially empty" :lol: Check out Update #3 :banana: After what I've seen today I decided against pulling heatspreaders off ;) I don't think it will help...

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up to you Michael, get real, you know it WILL help. "you think " doesn't mean it won't help in real world.;)

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Originally Posted by dogsx2

They always say if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch. I stayed on the porch and gave it to the big dog to run with it. Great job. Very.very professional with the pictures and ss. I just knew there was some more in the bag of tricks. Thanks for the hard work.

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Eh, come on... Believe me, memory clocking is not a rocket science... It's a method ;) Above 272Mhz I had to resort to "certain performance trick" that I kind of wanted to avoid. I'm pretty sure it will be soon uncovered :D Let's see...

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Originally Posted by CCUABIDExORxDIE

looks like team groups ram is gonna be the new enthusiasts choice.

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Time will tell...

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

up to you Michael, get real, you know it WILL help. "you think " doesn't mean it won't help in real world.;)

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Considering today's results and "experiences" I'm 99% sure that heat is not an issue. There's something else ;)

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Above 272Mhz I had to resort to "certain performance trick" that I kind of wanted to avoid. I'm pretty sure it will be soon uncovered :D

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mmmmm, do tell us of the tricks :D :toast:

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Originally Posted by CCUABIDExORxDIE

very very impressive. almost got the WR with those sticks. looks like team groups ram is gonna be the new enthusiasts choice.

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Let's not forget about the other set that could only do in the high 260's.;)

OK! I think I'm done with this RAM :lol:

I managed Spi32M @ 277MHz, which is equal to Onepagebook's :) Results are in my 4th update of initial post...

I'm pretty sure, that soon 277MHz barrier will be broken by someone else :fact:

very impressive.Looks like team groups ram has done some action.It is good method in speed-sorting in the Teamgroup module.:banana: .

Go DDR550 2-2-2-5 :banana: :banana:

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

OK! I think I'm done with this RAM :lol:

I managed Spi32M @ 277MHz, which is equal to Onepagebook's :) Results are in my 4th update of initial post...

I'm pretty sure, that soon 277MHz barrier will be broken by someone else :fact:

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Hey, you said the trick bag was empty.:shrug: Are you sure????? :D

32m@277 equals a great set of memory, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

OK! I think I'm done with this RAM :lol:

I managed Spi32M @ 277MHz, which is equal to Onepagebook's :) Results are in my 4th update of initial post...

I'm pretty sure, that soon 277MHz barrier will be broken by someone else :fact:

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you right,bro
I have that 280mhz wait for you:D

Dogs, don't be too greedy:):D

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

OK! I think I'm done with this RAM :lol:

I managed Spi32M @ 277MHz, which is equal to Onepagebook's :) Results are in my 4th update of initial post...

I'm pretty sure, that soon 277MHz barrier will be broken by someone else :fact:

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:woot:

impressive work bachus, especially without resorting to 3.8v yet ;) :toast:
if it even does anything.. hahaha

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

you right,bro
I have that 280mhz wait for you:D

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That means B_A should remove the HS cuz it WILL help..:rolleyes:

Anyway, good job.. I'm just starting with bh/chUTT, and already got thru some troubles..

Too bad you cant get them anywhere online in the US, unless someone can help me out? *WINK WINK*

Another uber clocking ram that should be guarded for the rest of your life. :D

Insane ram speed, awesome~! :toast:

@bachus_anonym
Are these your bios options for 250 MHz:
1)tREF=?
2)DQS Values = Auto,0?
3)Drive Strength?

Can you 32M with same Voltages for cpu,dimm and:
1)Idle Cycle Limit =16
2)Max Async Latency = 7
3)Drive Strength = Normal
which are common or did you decide to have loose timings for imc in order to run the 32M?

Excellent Results by the way.

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That means B_A should remove the HS cuz it WILL help..:rolleyes: Anyway, good job.. I'm just starting with bh/chUTT, and already got thru some troubles..

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Removing heatspreaders does not always guarantee automatically better clocks. I have done it to all BH-5 I've ever had and nothing exciting came out of it... As you said, you're starting your adventure with high voltage RAM so I forgive you rolling eyes at me :slap: :) Besides, you can't compare RAM that OPB has with the set I'm testing here... :) I can guarantee you that 280MHz is ABSOLUTELY out of reach.

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Originally Posted by Spyrus

Are these your bios options for 250 MHz:
1)tREF= 1816
2)DQS Values = AUTO / 0
3)Drive Strength = AUTO/AUTO

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Answers in bold... I can do MAL=7ns but only when divider is not used. I think 277Mhz screen was with MAL=7ns...

Update #5 ;) Not very thrilled about the gains, though...
But I'm happy that at least I managed to up the clock a bit more :)

Im confused
Check this out
2X1024 bh-5 UTT?>#$%%#@$#@#????
I know its wierd but look for urself
http://www.tankguys.biz/team-xtreem-...acturers_id=62

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Originally Posted by Philosophy

Im confused. Check this out: 2X1024 bh-5 UTT?>#$%%#@$#@#???? I know its wierd but look for urself - http://www.tankguys.biz/team-xtreem-...acturers_id=62

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mistake :fact:

I thought so I just had to posat it anyway...
Figured team xtreem is doing some good stuff with ram lately, maybe this is another mutation they've came up with :P

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Above 272Mhz I had to resort to "certain performance trick" that I kind of wanted to avoid. I'm pretty sure it will be soon uncovered :D

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>13v on 12v rail :p:

whoa you enabled 32-byte granularity for 279 run

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Update #5 ;) Not very thrilled about the gains, though...
But I'm happy that at least I managed to up the clock a bit more :)

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Michal

Before your done playing with that set of memory, I just know you will have reached the magic 280 number. Keep trying and I know you will make it. :up:

nice that you get some more mhz out from it...damn i´m stil using nf2..waiting for my rma, got some new sticks to cant test them so much i want. No Xtreem sticks yet but some thing smaller ;)

Michael..........have you tried Slower DQS with value past 128 to see if you can grab that last MHz to 280

i would also try Read Write Queue Bypass 8x and Bypass Max 4x.....it's awesome that you have TWTR=1 ...maybe 2 there and 3 for TRTW will loosen it enough for that one damn MHz :p: i ain't giving advice to master....just interested if those make a change for you as they did for me in my limited experience :)

try DIC = disabled too :D

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Removing heatspreaders does not always guarantee automatically better clocks. I have done it to all BH-5 I've ever had and nothing exciting came out of it... As you said, you're starting your adventure with high voltage RAM so I forgive you rolling eyes at me :slap: :) Besides, you can't compare RAM that OPB has with the set I'm testing here... :) I can guarantee you that 280MHz is ABSOLUTELY out of reach.

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Eh, just wanna tell the eyes were more directed to OPB, as I took his words against yours.. Maybe should have been a wink, I'm not english speaking native.. sorry. Just wanted you to push the competition :)

Are the heatspreaders still on? And is the 280mhz now in reach?
I love your works guys, keep on pushing.
:stick: @ /me

Excellent work and documentation bachus. Your efforts are helpful to many of us and good for everyone. Learning from experience is ok (takes a long time) but learning from others provides a huge advantage towards progress.

WOW WOW WOW my friend!!!

AMAZING scores

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Originally Posted by dinos22

whoa you enabled 32-byte granularity for 279 run

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Shortening burts length to 2 transfers indeed helped some and I was a bit surprised by that. But that's still not it :p:

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Originally Posted by dogsx2

Michal, Before your done playing with that set of memory, I just know you will have reached the magic 280 number. Keep trying and I know you will make it. :up:

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Well, I think I'm really done this time :) To many attempts and all failed...

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

nice that you get some more mhz out from it...damn i´m stil using nf2..waiting for my rma, got some new sticks to cant test them so much i want. No Xtreem sticks yet but some thing smaller ;)

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Thanks LV and good luck with your new sticks :up:

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Originally Posted by dinos22

Michael..........have you tried Slower DQS with value past 128 to see if you can grab that last MHz to 280. i would also try Read Write Queue Bypass 8x and Bypass Max 4x.....it's awesome that you have TWTR=1 ...maybe 2 there and 3 for TRTW will loosen it enough for that one damn MHz :p: i ain't giving advice to master....just interested if those make a change for you as they did for me in my limited experience :)

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... have been there...

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

try DIC = disabled too :D

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... and have done that... At this point it doesn't seem to help to reach higher :( Thanks for suggestions, though :toast:

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Originally Posted by MorueM

Are the heatspreaders still on?

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Yes :p: :)

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Originally Posted by coop

Excellent work and documentation bachus. Your efforts are helpful to many of us and good for everyone. Learning from experience is ok (takes a long time) but learning from others provides a huge advantage towards progress.

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Thanks coop! I was hoping that posting all those screenshots will help some of those still playing with (UTT)BH-5. I have not run SPi32M so many times in a single Report before :lol:

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Originally Posted by gigi77

WOW WOW WOW my friend!!! AMAZING scores

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Thanks Luigi :) I'm glad I could give you some entertainment here :D

bachus_anonym: The trick to go over 280 for you is to bench when the temp is lower :) , open window and maybe on the night ;) , damn this is bad i got very low temp outside again but i stil dont have any board to test the sticks on :/

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

bachus_anonym: The trick to go over 280 for you is to bench when the temp is lower :) , open window and maybe on the night ;) , damn this is bad i got very low temp outside again but i stil dont have any board to test the sticks on :/

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Thanks LV but I pretty much decided to stop there. I have not touched those sticks since yesterday morning and already put my daily 2GB in... Once again, thanks to dogsx2 for letting me play with those Xtreemes :toast:

Thanks for dropping by guys and look forward to my next OCing Report :peace:

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Above 272Mhz I had to resort to "certain performance trick" that I kind of wanted to avoid.

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hey michael i'm still interested to know how you managed to gain so many MHz with a "trick" ....... Do tell pls :)

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Originally Posted by dinos22

hey michael i'm still interested to know how you managed to gain so many MHz with a "trick" ....... Do tell pls :)

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Yeah, me 2.

Nice review man! :up:

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Originally Posted by dinos22

hey michael i'm still interested to know how you managed to gain so many MHz with a "trick" ....... Do tell pls :)

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You found it already, sort of. So here we go:

1. To get from 272Mhz to 275MHz I enabled 32-byte Granularity in BIOS. I don't quite understand why it worked but it helped without any performance hit. But... With 4 sets total of UTT-BH5 I had here at that time only this one benefit from that "switch". The rest would not give better results at all :shrug:

2. Now, the "performance hit" suffered to get from 276MHz to 279Mhz (about 10s) in SPi32M was a result of Bank Interleaving being Diabled. That did it and allowed me to pass 32M @ 279Mhz - without it, kit stops at 275MHz.

That's all folks :D

awesome clocks ;)
exspecially for 4 module at once

Nevermind I didn't see the update.

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

You found it already, sort of. So here we go:

1. To get from 272Mhz to 275MHz I enabled 32-byte Granularity in BIOS. I don't quite understand why it worked but it helped without any performance hit. But... With 4 sets total of UTT-BH5 I had here at that time only this one benefit from that "switch". The rest would not give better results at all :shrug:

2. Now, the "performance hit" suffered to get from 276MHz to 279Mhz (about 10s) in SPi32M was a result of Bank Interleaving being Diabled. That did it and allowed me to pass 32M @ 279Mhz - without it, kit stops at 275MHz.

That's all folks :D

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:D ........didn't mention those as it just didn't do anything for me.........i guess it's important to try with every set as you never know :toast:

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

You found it already, sort of. So here we go:

1. To get from 272Mhz to 275MHz I enabled 32-byte Granularity in BIOS. I don't quite understand why it worked but it helped without any performance hit. But... With 4 sets total of UTT-BH5 I had here at that time only this one benefit from that "switch". The rest would not give better results at all :shrug:

2. Now, the "performance hit" suffered to get from 276MHz to 279Mhz (about 10s) in SPi32M was a result of Bank Interleaving being Diabled. That did it and allowed me to pass 32M @ 279Mhz - without it, kit stops at 275MHz.

That's all folks :D

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could be a UTT BH-5 thing as 32bit gran enabled for original BH-5 takes a hefty performance dive for me (well in memtest bandwidth) and pi times

bachus_anonym: What board did you test with? I've been testing mine on an expert and I cannot get them stable at 250.

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Originally Posted by Coroner Kyle

bachus_anonym: What board did you test with? I've been testing mine on an expert and I cannot get them stable at 250.

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PC4000 sticks?

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Originally Posted by dinos22

:D ........didn't mention those as it just didn't do anything for me.........i guess it's important to try with every set as you never know :toast:

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Exactly, that's why I'm a bit surprised that it actually helped.

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Originally Posted by eva2000

could be a UTT BH-5 thing as 32bit gran enabled for original BH-5 takes a hefty performance dive for me (well in memtest bandwidth) and pi times

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I have not checked memtest bandwidth or even Sandra, but SPi times were same with 32-byte granularity enabled. By disabling Bank Interleave I lost around 10-12s, though...

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Originally Posted by Coroner Kyle

bachus_anonym: What board did you test with? I've been testing mine on an expert and I cannot get them stable at 250.

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DFI NF4 Ultra-D Rev.A02, BIOS 6/23 Official

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

PC4000 sticks?

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Yes.

First I set up my settings like b_a's weak set of sticks - not stable. So I even set everything to auto except the primary timings (2-2-2-5) so that the board could loosen everything up to its liking, underclocked and slightly overvolted the processor, and played with the vdimm from 3.31 to 3.5x and they will not pass SPi 32M, Windows Memtest, or DOS at 250. I can get them to run at 240, but I paid for at least 250. You think I need an RMA?

I have also the pc4000 and the Expert Mobo and can also get them only up to 255 with 3,5V vdimm. I think i got baaad clockers. :mad:


cu

I'm having 4x UTT Corsair on Expert, i cant get it to 250 stable......any idea on timing :confused: about drive strength and data strength

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Originally Posted by Coroner Kyle

Yes.

First I set up my settings like b_a's weak set of sticks - not stable. So I even set everything to auto except the primary timings (2-2-2-5) so that the board could loosen everything up to its liking, underclocked and slightly overvolted the processor, and played with the vdimm from 3.31 to 3.5x and they will not pass SPi 32M, Windows Memtest, or DOS at 250. I can get them to run at 240, but I paid for at least 250. You think I need an RMA?

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Dear Coroner Kyle,
Hello! Nice to meet you, would like kindly tell me which brand of module did you buy?

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Originally Posted by Xtreem Tech

Dear Coroner Kyle,
Hello! Nice to meet you, would like kindly tell me which brand of module did you buy?

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Its Teamgroup Xtreem PC4000 bh5-utt. I have already asked :), i think the problem is DDS and DDDS settings on the Expert board. Try 8,1 or 1,1 Coroner Kyle.

i will have the Team Extreem BH5 in some days.. what to know about the timings need be use.. i have too the DFI Expert...
the serial number will be 2005186xxx or higher..

:slobber: realy nice Sticks

he he DDR shipped today.. if DHL make a fast job i will have the kit tomorrow or perhaps monday ( are they deliver the saturday..)