KINC TAKES 05 WR w/X1900 CF & RD580!!!

http://upload.nickfire.com//files/1/kincwr.JPG

CONGRAT's KINC! NICE JOB MAN!!!!!! :toast: :banana: :clap: :woot:

ORB LINKAGE: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1827781

X1900XTX CF & ASUS RD580

Kinc breaks out the big stick. :toast:

Nice run and grats on the retake of first place.

:woot: :woot: :woot:

Congrats !!!! :D

That motherboard does indeed look promising !!!!

Perkam

I WANNA SEE 20K :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:



VERY VERY nice job kinc - you SPANKED k|ngp|n's score :slapass:

Congrats :toast:

20k ain't too far off now.

Congrats on taking back the top spot :toast:

Congrats! How does it feel to be on top??? I have always wondered... but passing 20K should be on your mind, if I am not wrong :)

Congrats Kinc:toast:

Grats Kinc :) Jason told me a few hours ago. Fast board :D

I wonder if the switch from RD480 to RD580 is worth it? :D

But anyways, grats Kinc on bringing ATi to the top (For now maybe?) :)

:toast: :toast: :toast:

Contrats Marcus! Nice work!

congrats :)

those cards are flying no with the new mobo

20K.. not too far.

I think we'll see closer to 21K looking at the current card clocks. Nice job kinc :toast:

Grats!!!!!!!

Very big score on just watercooling .. excellent work.

05 is getting more cpu limited than 2001 nowadays :D Joking aside the difference in frame rates between games 1/2 and 3 is getting slightly ridiculous ! :)

Conroe is going to do very well indeed you have to think ....

Looking forward to the LN2 results Kinc.

Regards

Andy

Congrats. Sweet score.

Where is link. Link die

Nice job. I was waiting for this. Kingpin has said he will get a CF x1900xtx setup if any one ever beats his old 3d05 record. I guess it's time for that?

Great Marcus.
Very Very Congratz.!:woot:

Kinc, keep 'em coming :)

http://www.muropaketti.com/3dmark/r580/3dm05.png

Congrats, no doubt...
hey don't occupy 9 out of 10 spots from the 1st page,
leave one for me:D

Links dead? And Kingpin on nr 1 again? If i go and look in the orb I don't see Macci's, Kinc's score?

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Originally Posted by PuijkeN

Links dead? And Kingpin on nr 1 again? If i go and look in the orb I don't see Macci's, Kinc's score?

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same here. I think FM is removing scores becouse the RD580 hasnt been lounched yet.

i think its macci n sampsa dat took the WR....lol...man this is intresting!! let the race began!

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

Kinc, keep 'em coming :)

http://www.muropaketti.com/3dmark/r580/3dm05.png

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I will ;)

Got any backups?

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Originally Posted by Kinc

I will ;)

Got any backups?

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Nope, although I'm installing my RD580 platform and have 10 kg of dry ice here. My CPU is propably weaker than the one we had on that 19581 run.

Nice work guys. :toast:
This rig isnt dead just yet though :)

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Originally Posted by PuijkeN

Links dead? And Kingpin on nr 1 again? If i go and look in the orb I don't see Macci's, Kinc's score?

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ATI do not want any scores pubished yet. You can get em in store here so I jumped ahead to the wrong conclusion that is was ok.

as i said that, more WR are coming.

Congrats Kinc and of course Macci

Awesome! :slobber:

Kinc: Can you use ATI Tool with this board? I doesn't work here. Maybe something i've missed. :)

what were the clocks on GPUs?

The clocks really do demonstrate the power of the new motherboard over his previous RD480...

On the old mobo, with the FX-60 at 3537 and 760/890 clocks on the cf, he achieved 19,017. On the new motherboard, with the FX-60 at 3503 and 740/840 watercooled cf, he achieved ~19,400 or whatever the score was...

Perkam

and what clocks were used for the 20K?

Wow perkam, looks like RD580 kicks some major ass

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Originally Posted by Kinc

ATI do not want any scores pubished yet. You can get em in store here so I jumped ahead to the wrong conclusion that is was ok.

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Sorry for my question.. but... the X2 in the list is FX 60 or what?

Congrats:toast:

Congratz to all :clap:

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Originally Posted by Kinc

ATI do not want any scores pubished yet. You can get em in store here so I jumped ahead to the wrong conclusion that is was ok.

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When is the "official" launch? It is, when they can broke the NDA? :D

good job Kinc, back on top again....... 20K should be within reach real soon. I can't wait to see that fall.

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Originally Posted by mursaat

Congratz to all :clap:
When is the "official" launch? It is, when they can broke the NDA? :D

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next week

Looks like that should give k|ngp|n plenty of time to retaliate. :p:

Congratz Kinc!

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Originally Posted by Gautam

Looks like that should give k|ngp|n plenty of time to retaliate. :p:

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LOL..phew. I was rushing to bench SLI again today. I am going to need everything I can muster to beat just kinc, let alone the FINS :toast: .
I wake up see this and think....first you guys kick the hell out of my hockey team in TORINO and now this?
Need more time to pull out a rabbit.

Why no 3dmark 2006 or 2003 though?

man the new GPU TUBE is killing us hehehehehe

you are super ^^y

Yep, those new gpu tubes:toast:

The bar has been set to 20ks:) ...Amazing..

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Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

LOL..phew. I was rushing to bench SLI again today. I am going to need everything I can muster to beat just kinc, let alone the FINS :toast: .
I wake up see this and think....first you guys kick the hell out of my hockey team in TORINO and now this?
Need more time to pull out a rabbit.

Why no 3dmark 2006 or 2003 though?

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If its anyone that can push the limits its you. You allready have, that SLI score is really amazing! :toast:

X1900 is pretty weak in game test 2 and 3 of 3dmark 03, so nothing to brag about there. Maybe on 955XE with an insane gt1. I got a score just above 11700 with 3450MHz 230MHz BH-5 760/890MHz X1900 CF. Me and crotale are preparing for a crossfire run with 955XE in 3dmark 06 though so my focus with FX-60 will be on 3mdark 05 :) Have to conserve the liquid nitrogen :D

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Originally Posted by korda

Awesome! :slobber:

Kinc: Can you use ATI Tool with this board? I doesn't work here. Maybe something i've missed. :)

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Yeah you have to change the active device to the card you want to overclock. Enter setting and you'll see it :)

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Originally Posted by Kinc

Yeah you have to change the active device to the card you want to overclock. Enter setting and you'll see it :)

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Aha! :D

Thanks. :)

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Originally Posted by Willis

My opinion,
i don't think this is impressive at al :)
actually i can say these crosfire results are bad when you compare it with the efficiency of sli..

GTX512-->9.6K
XTX--->11.5K

2*GTX512-->19.2K
2*XTX---->19.5K

oh yeah hats off for ati and crossfire they sure rule ;):lol:

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I would venture to say there is some bottlenecking going on by the cpu

awesome score :toast:
Asus RD580 = A8R32 ?

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My opinion,
i don't think this is impressive at al
actually i can say these crosfire results are bad when you compare it with the efficiency of sli..

GTX512-->9.6K
XTX--->11.5K

2*GTX512-->19.2K
2*XTX---->19.5K

oh yeah hats off for ati and crossfire they sure rule

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3DMark05 at default resolution (1024x768) is not the benchmark you want to use for comparing SLI/CF efficiency. Its 99% CPU bound w/ 3.5GHz FX60 and 750/850 clocked X1900CF. You can see that GT1 and 2 are basically the same with both SLI and CF and only the most GPU dependent GT3 shows a small difference (at lower CPU clock even that would be equal). Overclocking the cards at that point gives zero improvement. You'd need higher CPU speed to see the benefit of increased video speed.

If you want to compare them with 3DMark05 I suggest running it at (at least) 1600x1200 4AA 8AF. Even then GT1 and 2 are highly CPU bound.

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Originally Posted by Supertim0r

awesome score :toast:
Asus RD580 = A8R32 ?

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yep

A8R32-MVP

that board must be nice

Hope to get an RD580 board soon so I can join in the fun... got my cards, cooling and even a spare card to boot. :)

http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/crossfire1.jpg
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/crossfire2.jpg

Nice arsenal Gochin:toast: ...With 60 or 57?

omg gochin that is some sick cooling/gfx power.

Who made the vga containers? They aren't solid are they?

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Originally Posted by gocchin

Hope to get an RD580 board soon so I can join in the fun... got my cards, cooling and even a spare card to boot. :)

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you stuffed it with an orange :lol:

Going to try to control temps with an FX-60... the gpu units were sent to me by MickeyMouse and of course that's one of his mousepots too with a 3" orange in it :)

are they the new solid vga mousepots? or some brazed pots he made a while back?

god luck temp controlling fx60

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Originally Posted by gocchin

Hope to get an RD580 board soon so I can join in the fun... got my cards, cooling and even a spare card to boot. :)

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I'll let you know when they are in stock...already reserved 3 A8R32-MVP (waiting confirmation)

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Originally Posted by Supertim0r

I'll let you know when they are in stock...already reserved 3 A8R32-MVP (waiting confirmation)

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Send me one... I have the money ready! You still got my address? :)

@vapb400 - yeah those are the brazed ones :)

The A8R32-MVP will require modding for optimal performance....all the top ocers are eager for the release of the DFI RD580, which should be the real deal.

Perkam

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Originally Posted by gocchin

Send me one... I have the money ready! You still got my address? :)

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I'll know if they are coming in stock. They aren't in stock :(

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Originally Posted by macci

3DMark05 at default resolution (1024x768) is not the benchmark you want to use for comparing SLI/CF efficiency. Its 99% CPU bound w/ 3.5GHz FX60 and 750/850 clocked X1900CF. You can see that GT1 and 2 are basically the same with both SLI and CF and only the most GPU dependent GT3 shows a small difference (at lower CPU clock even that would be equal). Overclocking the cards at that point gives zero improvement. You'd need higher CPU speed to see the benefit of increased video speed.

If you want to compare them with 3DMark05 I suggest running it at (at least) 1600x1200 4AA 8AF. Even then GT1 and 2 are highly CPU bound.

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Thank you for saying it macci. Some people are just blinded by whatever it is that blinds them :stick:

Closing in...

http://www.kinc.se/cf/19574.jpg

Cards at 760/890MHz, sysmem at 250MHz. Again I had a run that froze for me at 3550+ hitting 19637 :( I have a new set of memory that Im going to try if they can go higher on this limited voltage (3.35V with mod) and stay sub 3550 where I know I can save the score. I may have time for one more try today or tomorrow, then I'm of to the states until thursday.

Has your Crossfire card 1.1ns ram?

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Originally Posted by C3

Has your Crossfire card 1.1ns ram?

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No, the memory is really bad on my master card :(

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Originally Posted by Kinc

Closing in...

http://www.kinc.se/cf/19574.jpg

Again I had a run that froze for me at 3550+ hitting 19637 :( I have a new set of memory that Im going to try if they can go higher on this limited voltage (3.35V with mod) and stay sub 3550 where I know I can save the score. I may have time for one more try today or tomorrow, then I'm of to the states until thursday.

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Is that still on water Marcus?

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Originally Posted by Kinc

Closing in...

http://www.kinc.se/cf/19574.jpg

Cards at 760/890MHz, sysmem at 250MHz. Again I had a run that froze for me at 3550+ hitting 19637 :( I have a new set of memory that Im going to try if they can go higher on this limited voltage (3.35V with mod) and stay sub 3550 where I know I can save the score. I may have time for one more try today or tomorrow, then I'm of to the states until thursday.

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So close! :D

I'm here running below 3,5 GHz with my FX-60 and I'm @ 19333.

Be careful in customs when entering US. Heading to Santa Clara? :)

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

So close! :D

I'm here running below 3,5 GHz with my FX-60 and I'm @ 19333.

Be careful in customs when entering US. Heading to Santa Clara? :)

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Yeah everyone is telling me to be carefull when entering US, any tips on how to act? :) Yeah, you too? Would be fun to meet you!

Just remain Cool 'n Quiet and don't piss em off =)

And great score there so far! :toast:
What multi / RAM settings on that one?

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Originally Posted by macci

Just remain Cool 'n Quiet and don't piss em off =)

And great score there so far! :toast:
What multi / RAM settings on that one?

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That's what I needed to hear, thanks man :)

It's on multiplier 17 with a 250 devider. Did you and Sampsa use the ASUS board?

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Originally Posted by Willis

My opinion,
i don't think this is impressive at al :)
actually i can say these crosfire results are bad when you compare it with the efficiency of sli..

GTX512-->9.6K
XTX--->11.5K

2*GTX512-->19.2K
2*XTX---->19.5K

oh yeah hats off for ati and crossfire they sure rule ;):lol:

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how did you come up with this equation? Im getting almost 14k on air with a single xtx, and 16k has also been done with a single xtx. but I sure agree with you on the lack of efficiency. 16k-19.5k is a very poor performance gain although I don't totally blame it on the GPU's. CPU is obviously at fault, although SLI is much more performance efficient then CF.

multi and RAM divider are identical to yours (and same goes to the score too obviously!) =)

getting to 3550 w/ x16 and 250 mode seems to be target for now.

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Originally Posted by Kinc

Yeah everyone is telling me to be carefull when entering US, any tips on how to act? :) Yeah, you too? Would be fun to meet you!

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In any case, don't say you're an editor (unless you have a visa). Just say you're there for a business. Unfortunately I'm not going this time, I visited there last fall. Cool place.

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Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

LOL..phew. I was rushing to bench SLI again today. I am going to need everything I can muster to beat just kinc, let alone the FINS :toast: .
I wake up see this and think....first you guys kick the hell out of my hockey team in TORINO and now this?
Need more time to pull out a rabbit.

Why no 3dmark 2006 or 2003 though?

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My first overclocked '06 run ever: 11800 :)

Plenty of things to improve. CPU @ 3,43 GHz.

Intel 65NM 955XE dual core without coldbug will do much better than AMD FX-60 in 3dmark06 afaik.

Perkam

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Originally Posted by perkam

Intel 65NM 955XE dual core without coldbug will do much better than AMD FX-60 in 3dmark06 afaik.

Perkam

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I have one of those, so will try it propably later.

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Yeah everyone is telling me to be carefull when entering US, any tips on how to act? :) Yeah, you too? Would be fun to meet you!

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Do what i do, always use your US passport, and if you see any of these running around, dont worry, it's normal :
http://www.extradtp.net/Datas/Pdts/Ima/P24109.jpg

you are funny gnome

congrats man, nice scores :)

ok so im lost here I thought RD580 was x1900 so why did they delete the score?

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Originally Posted by cMw

ok so im lost here I thought RD580 was x1900 so why did they delete the score?

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RD580 is mobo, R580 is X1900:p:

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Originally Posted by Winterwind

RD580 is mobo, R580 is X1900:p:

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yea the X1900's have already been released so why dont thye want scores to be posted ?? im lost ??

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Originally Posted by cMw

yea the X1900's have already been released so why dont thye want scores to be posted ?? im lost ??

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because rd580 makes crossfire perform much better

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Originally Posted by Willis

really?
i was talking about stock my friend :)

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Thats not a very good comparison though of CF and SLI effeciencty to use a set of #'s that are run with stock settings and stock cooling. and the next set of #'s with CF/SLI to be over clocked to the max with extreme cooling.

Point is though its not efficient in the least. OCd or stock.

alright im good now i got mixed up with rd580 and r580 :P

didnt know the rd580 hadn't been released yet

but personally i cant wait to see a DFI version of this

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

I have one of those, so will try it propably later.

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Crotale and I ran some 955 this weekend. It never worked as it should and now the cpu is almost dead. The resler core may be sensetive to high voltage and clocks. Since it has been geting weaker after each time.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=150598

Willis, that's how it goes when its Intel+ATI vs. AMD+nV.
Intel is strong in 3DM06 CPU tests while AMD runs the first two Game tests better.
1st HDR test is better for ATI and 2nd runs better with nV (for now atleast..) =)

HDR can be cheated by using LOD, and thats allowed.... - I've heard it wipes out the HDR effect from a dude that tested x1900CF..

EDIT:
Macci, can you comfirm this?

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Originally Posted by Willis

the score is very strange compared to kingpins one :stick:

the tests varias allot :confused:

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Yes, completely different plattform and different cards.

The CPU is really degraded now :( 1.8vcore seems to be a little too much for the 65nm process.

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Originally Posted by Willis

ah i see :)

"1st HDR test is better for ATI and 2nd runs better with nV (for now atleast..) "

within this and two weeks G71 :D

j/k ;)

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R600's properly ready soon as well, and that chip is a KILLER... - A bit more sucky pipelines, but ALOT of them...!
Heard some insane specs once... - Properly not true, but 92 / 96, dont remember which, sounds INSANE :D

Anyhow... - First big difference in GFX will properly be GDDR4... ;)

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

R600's properly ready soon as well, and that chip is a KILLER... - A bit more sucky pipelines, but ALOT of them...!
Heard some insane specs once... - Properly not true, but 92 / 96, dont remember which, sounds INSANE :D

Anyhow... - First big difference in GFX will properly be GDDR4... ;)

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NO...
In ATI roadmap, R600 its to come probably some where in October...while Nvidia will lauch its G80 in June-July if the rumours are true...
And off course both cards will come with GDDR4 and DX10 (PS4)

Very nice scores! Just the numbers I was expecting to get with some R580s in CF w/ a RD580 mobo. I want to see 20k fall this weekend! :woot:

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

R600's properly ready soon as well, and that chip is a KILLER... - A bit more sucky pipelines, but ALOT of them...!
Heard some insane specs once... - Properly not true, but 92 / 96, dont remember which, sounds INSANE :D

Anyhow... - First big difference in GFX will properly be GDDR4... ;)

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65nm
64 Shader pipelines (Vec4+Scalar)
32 TMU's
32 ROPs
128 Shader Operations per Cycle
800MHz Core
102.4 billion shader ops/sec .
512GFLOPs for the shaders
2 Billion triangles/sec
25.6 Gpixels/Gtexels/sec
256-bit 512MB 1.8GHz GDDR4 Memory
57.6 GB/sec Bandwidth (at 1.8GHz)
WGF2.0 Unified Shader

I think I also read it will be 48pp but I am not totally sure.

EDIT: you mean probably :p:

Why don't they are in the HALL OF FAME?

Grats! :D

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Originally Posted by gocchin

Going to try to control temps with an FX-60... the gpu units were sent to me by MickeyMouse and of course that's one of his mousepots too with a 3" orange in it :)

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gl, break WR in 05. You can do it. :toast: