Seeing is believing.
2.8GHz @Stock VCore (1.312V)
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5...allffta3gb.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/667...allfftb3gh.jpg
3GHz @1.456V
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/443...allffta4tf.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9...allfftb7mq.jpg
Please do not pm me asking where I got it, what the stepping is, how much I'm gonna charge for it, etc.. ;) I didn't check the stepping and it's already installed, I don't want to take it apart. Thanks!
Specs:
Socket 939 Opteron 165
DFI NF4 UT SLI-D
OCZ 4200 512MB x 2
Gigabyte 6200TC 64MB
TT Big Typhoon
Antec TrueControl I 550W (20-pin)
Open-air testbed with ambient temps 15C/60F~20C/70F
Whats the point of this post if you aren't helping the community with steppings and where you purchased it?
Whats the stepping?
What is the stepping and where did you get it?
I second that......Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaWreck
But very nice overclock!
Cooling holding you back or is your board limited to ~1.45V?
Nice 165. I like how you put in the Title that you made a mistake BEFORE you submitted the post. The guys are right, it's show and tell on this forum.
nice oc, pics don't bother me at all ;)
I don't think we're allowed to ask questions in this thread :slapass: I think it's supposed to be like an art viewing. We're supposed to come in, take a look at the pics, come up with our own conclusions about what we see, and then move on without saying a word.....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
good one s7.
Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
haha :toast:
Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaWreck
:stick:
patience is required once in a while :slapass:
nice oc man!!!
but some info about the cpu?
step?batch etc etc?
thxx
i am currenty working on the same thing.
prime stable at 2.8 w/ stock vcore (1.31)
Seems stable at 2.9, didnt test much... went straight to 3gighz
didnt boot into windows with stock voltage, had to up it to 1.36 to boot into windows at 3gighz
I have a weak core0, currently trying to burn that in. Right now I am at 1.456 burning in core0.
he has to have a 0550, I have tested a lot of processors and that is the only thing that seems to make sense. The crazy thing is, my core1 is prime stable in windows at 3gighz w/ 1.36vcore.
Edit: Prime stable @ 1.5vcore, now burning in core0 in an attempt to lower that.
I got my 0550 VPMW from a close friend, hopefully going to get a few more shortly
Quote:
Originally Posted by i found nemo
I agree, but this isn't a patience issue. He clearly states at the bottom of the post that he's not bothering to give steppings or where he purchased it. Now coming from the guys that get engineering samples for the purpose of testing hardware this is fine. Coming from someone who is a normal part of the retail commmunity there really is no point of posting. No one wants to read "Look at my overclock, and I'm not telling" type of posts. I was under the impression we are all here to provide each other with the best information on products and their details so we can make informed purchases.
irev210
Is that on air?
Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
yup. Just a big typhoon in my apartment just on a testbed.
Right now it is laying out on a table with 2 120mm fans blowing over the PWM IC's.
Current temps are-
CPU 49C
PWM IC 48C
Chipset 39C
When i load up both cores, it starts to get a little warm, hits 55-57C, big typhoon holds its own though.
I am going to burn in for many more hours, then attempt to go for higher mhz. No point in doing screenshots because I aint even started yet. I am just really bummed out that I got such a weak core0. Hopefully nothing 10 hours of BurnK7 cant fix.
Rest of the system:
Lanparty SLI-DR (EXPERT is being used on other rig atm)
GEIL ONE 512x2 BH memory (not bad, does 255@2-2-2-5 w/ 3.52v)
Enermax liberty 500WATT (seems to be holding its own, but i want more power!)
Its going well, I really hope to see a higher overclock soon. Just ordered a Scythe 1600RPM fan to replace my current big typhoon orange fan that spins at 1200. Hopefully the added CFM will help keep the PWM IC's cool. The biggest bonus to my DFI EXPERT is the much better PWM IC temps.
The amazing this is, it seemed prime stable at 2900mhz w/ stock vcore. I only prime tested for maybe 5 minutes, but still, wasnt bad. When I went to 3gighz, core0 instantly failed prime from 1.36 to 1.456. When I went up to 1.5vcore, core0 was 100% stable again. I really want to get it prime stable at 1.45 @ 3gighz.
irev210
What's the full stepping?
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
like everyone else whats the stepping pm me it if u dont want others 2 see lol and wur did u get it?
Guys, it sounds like he doesnt want to say. The best guess is a 0550 UPMW or VPMW. Nothing else can really hit that high with any other CPU's off the shelf.
i think that you right, its a big secret you know...Quote:
Originally Posted by irev210
but why posting if we can not ask?
very nice opt .
If it's on a testbed, what's the problem with ripping off the HSF?
Greenman at AT says:
but I personally like s7's comment best! :)Quote:
Perhaps you shouldn't tell us the stepping, I'm sure you could milk several more days of attention out of this. Then you could share your secret with just your true friends and make them promis not to tell anyone else.
who really cares, he made this same sort of post over at anandtech, here is a nice little copy and paste.
After much researching I got this chip and I'd like to share the results.
Socket 939 Opteron 165
XXXXX 05XXXXXX
XXXXXXXLXXXXX
Did I just set a new record?
1.392V was a no-go, and 1.424V let dual-Prime95 run for 30 mins or so, which means with better cooling, the chip has a potential to run 3GHz @1.424V.
For the record, here are the components used to achieve the results.
Socket 939 Opteron 165 (DO NOT ASK ME THE STEPPING, I WON'T TELL YA With some researching and luck, you can easily figure it out. Tip: The 3rd line on the stepping is very important.)
DFI UT NF4 SLI-D
Generic Samsung PC2700 DDR 512MB x 2
Gigabyte GeForce 6200TC 64MB
ThermalTake Big Typhoon
Antec True-Control I (First generation) 550W 20-pin
Ambient temp below 20C (70F)
Open-air testbed
This chip runs extremely cool even with warm (well, winter-warm, not summer-warm) daytime temperatures. 1000MHz OC on stock vcore sort of proves it. I could never get an Opteron 144 to run stable @3GHz, so it's very, very refreshing that I'm running a dual-core @3GHz with relatively low vcore and low temps. Also I believe this chip still has more headroom, but unfortunately my board's max HTT is 335~340. Anything above 335 results in instability, and it won't even boot above 340. Maybe it's time for a motherboard upgrade.
I've been through so many Socket 939 Opterons, and have gotten somewhat bored of it. (and spoiled, of course) This chip was meant to be my last one, so this result will be kind of memorable for me. My previous best dual-core OC was 2900MHz @1.52V with a 170.
For mere $285, I've got myself an FX-64 (or will it be FX-70?) which might not even be out till next year!
Now I'm *definitely* done with Socket 939 Opterons. (No more impulse-buy, that is) They are the most exciting hardware I've experienced, and will probably remain such. Long live the Socket 939 Opterons!
P.S. #1 Please don't ask me to sell this particular chip. (Unless you're willing to pay $1,000 for it )
P.S. #2 My other Socket 939 Opterons will be available for sale in near future. I will first contact the fellow forummers who have been communicating with me, then will post @FS/FT forum. (or eBay, lol)
Why even bother posting. Guys like this shouldnt be on xs.
The funny thing is, the people over at anandtech are actually into this BS crap.
Yeah XS is more than Xtreme overclocking, its also an Xtreme community that you contribute to with details and information ;)
seems like a 0550, but it would be alot easier if he would take the time and reveal the stepping
im placing my bets on a 0550vpmw, but again, we dont need any more members like this.
Geez..
Guys give me some time. I'm trying to dissect the steppings (including the substrate/batch #s) on dual-core Opterons (and single-cores, to some extent) currently. I mostly read/write at AT, and I come to XS for learning for the most part. To put it modestly, I'm not in a position to tell you what's what and which is which. Yes, and this post is purely a "show-off", on XS. (And obviously it worked in that I can read a couple peeps' sour comments. :) )
After some more research and if I get some confidence on my theory, I will tell you all. Give me some time.
Cheers and happy OC'ing!
lop
Here's a pic showing where the substrate and batch numbers are on a San Diego... (oops, thanks s7e9h3n!)Quote:
Originally Posted by lopri
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9...4subbat5bq.jpg
The numbers on an Opteron, and pretty much all of AMD's CPUs whether it's dual or single core, are in the same position.
So there you go, I've saved you some time in having to "dissect" and "research" your "theory". All you have to do is take the heatsink off and take a pic of the CPU or just post the numbers :)
He's not going to so that he can keep a higher resale price without worrying that someone will just end up buying it cheaper somewhere else with the details of what stepping to get.
lol...(btw, that's a diego ;))Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
Umm.. In no way I'll sell this chip. I've gone through more than a dozen Socket 939 Opterons (single & dual), and still have 7~8 of them. They were all hand-picked (in the sense that I could see the steppings before I make a purchase) at my neighbor's shop (a local system builder), and I have plenty other Opterons that people want to buy from me @AT, since most single-cores do 2.8~3.0Ghz and most dual-cores do 2.7~2.9GHz. I'm not even sure if I'm going to sell them honestly. I make enough money to keep this hobby. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by thebeast
This chip is the first dual-core that achieved 3.0Ghz for me and will be the last one to be sold. I have quite a few good friends @AT who want to buy my other Opterons. Don't worry I won't try to sell this chip here. Indeed I don't even have a permission to FS/FT forum on XS due to my low post count. Like I said, I come here to read and learn. Indeed I first learned about Socket 939 Opterons here. And up till 6 months ago I'd been an exclusive Intel user. :slobber: Let's just put it this way: A noob hit a jackpot by accident and couldn't pass up without showing it off. ;)
Oh and I know what #s are indicating substrates and batches. I want to find out the performance tendency among different steppings/substrates/batches, and that's what I'm looking into right now. It'll kind of be a long post because I'm thinking of writing up on my whole experiences with Socket 939 Opterons.
Then why are you bringing this here if that is what it is?Quote:
The funny thing is, the people over at anandtech are actually into this BS crap
You just set a WR with posting a stepping like that. That is the dumbest thing I've seen on XS. You can sure tell you've been hanging out at the dumb-bum forums. Why not try and fit in here by just telling us what it is or do you think you can corner the market in that stepping before you revel what it is. If you can't fit in, then any info you have is worthless to us.Quote:
Socket 939 Opteron 165
XXXXX 05XXXXXX
XXXXXXXLXXXXX
That wasn't a quote from the OP. That's a quote from a guy on our side ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
Well it's early in the morning and he should have said it anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
just give all the secrecy stuff a rest and add to the XS community for what you have.
You dont have to keep the stepping + batch etc to yourself while you do your research, just use it as reference wehn you post your results.
Now that I re-read your post, you seem to be quite an ass.....You say yourself that you come here to read and learn but in turn, don't want to contribute to the community which has helped you along. That makes you a leech....people like you aren't welcome here... so why don't you pack your little bag of "a dozen or so" opties and go play with your friends back at anandtech. You definately aren't going to make any friends here with an attitude like yours......Quote:
Originally Posted by lopri
P.S. My x2's would kick the living $hit outta your opty anyday :p:
This chip is the first dual-core that achieved 3.0Ghz for me and will be the last one to be sold.
Your contradicting yourself aren't you!!!!???
WTF is going on?
BTW,I quite like Anands forum users,some are here too,and they're a pretty open bunch.
What are you trying to achieve?
I second this. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
i agree, screenshots and no information is just bragging.
though if i see one more 165 0550UPMW at 2.8ghz+ on <1.45v im going to go crazy for selling mine unopened...
also agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Went to Anandtech to see if this guy is a jerk over there too. He is. He doesn't know much and is just looking to make a buck. Here is a quote from his post:
Go back where you came from.:slap:Quote:
Is it possible to check the revision (AD0?) of the board before making a purchase? Or is it a different model (i.e. Expert)?
Oh yah.. I'm hiding the Stepping information to mystify my chip and in case I decide to sell it on eBay.. Well, but it's basically draw of luck as you know. Even if you know what to look in the stepping, you won't get to see them until you pay for it. I was lucky to get a chance to look at the steppings before I make a purchase, so I picked the one (in this thread) based on my knowledge from here and there.
Hmmmm, I wonder when AMD stopped selling cpu's in their see-through packaging :rolleyes: This guy's gotta have some SERIOUS connections to be able to "look at the steppings" before he made the purchase lol....Quote:
Even if you know what to look in the stepping, you won't get to see them until you pay for it. I was lucky to get a chance to look at the steppings before I make a purchase, so I picked the one (in this thread) based on my knowledge from here and there.
....he still hasn't answered my question, which I would like to modify to this:
Is your cooling holding you back, is your board limited to ~1.45V or are you just a f'ing noob?
Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Looks like this dude is here to advertise his "secret chips" and show it off first, then make a quick buck while he's at it, he said it himself the reason why he wanted to hide the stepping is so people would pay big bucks to reveal it. :lol: Lately I've been seeing and encounter more and more newbies with either bad intention, or with ridiculous attitude in XS....what a shame :stick:
Hehehehe....kinda reminds me of someone we both knew, eh BEN? ;) :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
I think he's already admitted this to us :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
hehe...atleast that person had no bad intention whatsoever, I wouldn't say bad attitude either, aggressive was more like it :lol: :p:
@lopri,
I have edited your 1st post and consider yourself informed/warned that such attitude is NOT welcomed here! On XS we not only brag about OCs :) but also help eachother achieve them. As you said you've taken from our community and now it's time to give something back. Think about it before you drop by again, please :stick:
well spoken Bachus
Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
:toast:
Again, I dont know what stepping can do this besides 0550 VPMW.
I am at 3gighz with 1.52vcore prime stable on air, and I have a WEAK core0.
I was prime stable on core1 at 3.1gighz w/ just 1.45vcore. This core0 is REALLY holding me back
Anyway, my advice is ignore this dude and find yourself 0550 VPMW!
I will take picture of my processor shortly.
Christ...
I can't believe the difference of replies on here and on AT, including PMs. I'm so sorry that I started this thread here. I really, really do not understand people who think I'm trying to "sell" this chip. If that's the case, what's the point of not-telling the stepping? Regardless of the stepping, a chip is a chip and a clock is a clock. Even if it's known to be a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty stepping, it does what it does, then that's what it is, no?
If you really think I'm trying to sell this chip for high price, then go ask an AT member "******" who purchased a 148 and a 144 hardware from me. I sold a 148 CABYE 0540FPBW (3GHz @1.48V Air) and a 144 CACJE 0546APBW (2.88GHz @1.52 Air) for total $330. Like many of you, I don't OC to sell the chips at high price. It'd be quite a counter-productive business, don't you think?
I said I would post in a few days, with my observation in general on performance tendency among different steppings/substrates/batch #s of Opterons (single, dual) Why are you so impatient? And why calling me a name? I see some of the members here bragging about their results with suspicious screenshots with stepping information. Compared to those, my screenshots are honest, and I'm trying to analyze the information I've gathered from my chips and others. I WILL post my obervation in a few days.
Attitude? What attitude? All I did here was posting a few screenshots. Then you guys bring my other thread in AT here and talk about my attitude from there?
Edit: Esoterik'ed the person's nick to protect his privacy.
Here is my preliminary observation.
The dual-core steppings with postential of super-high (2.8~3.0) OCs:
CCBWE 0530TPMW
CCBWE 0546XPMW
CCB1E 0550VPMW
And the substrates/batche #s:
XXXXXXXL501XX
XXXXXXAL501XX
XXXXXXAL505XX
XXXX7XAL50XXX
XXXX786L50XXX
XXXX408L50XXX
Still gathering more information. Please don't call me name because I know who I am. It just makes you look like one. Once I'm done with this research, I will post it here on XS first, as a return for what I've learned from you guys.
Thanks.
Thanks for correcting my original post. I copied wrong addresses and didn't bother to upload them again. (Imageshack should change their system, really)Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
I'm trying to give something back, but these people are incredibly impatient. I sort of knew it from a few instances (like, if someone buys a chip, expecting an OC result within hours), but I never personally experienced it before.
I'm a very relaxed person and OC'ing is not a race for me. I like to take/enjoy my time and it was never a problem @AT. I guess it's AT for hobbiests, and XS for competitors...
thanks for being honest, if you're truly doing some research and wanted to gather some good stepping, add CCBWE 0550 UPMW to your list, see if you can get your hands on some of them....mine has no problem doing 2.9 on air.
It's my board that's holding back this chip. My board becomes instable past HTT 335, and it won't even boot from 340. As a matter of fact, does anyone know which board will give the highest HTT in average?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Expert should do much higher HTT.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopri
Quote:
Originally Posted by lopri
The thing that bothers me more than the fact that you wouldn't share the stepping info is that fact that you straight up lied...
Your first post here @ 5:05AM 2/11/06
Over at anandtech you say @ 11:08PM 2/10/06Quote:
Please do not pm me asking where I got it, what the stepping is, how much I'm gonna charge for it, etc.. I didn't check the stepping and it's already installed, I don't want to take it apart. Thanks!
Quote:
After much researching I got this chip and I'd like to share the results.
Socket 939 Opteron 165
XXXXX 05XXXXXX
XXXXXXXLXXXXX
quoting further down that thread you say (in the same post)
someone usually says "i won't tell ya" when they know something and don't want to share it...Quote:
Socket 939 Opteron 165 (DO NOT ASK ME THE STEPPING, I WON'T TELL YA With some researching and luck, you can easily figure it out. Tip: The 3rd line on the stepping is very important.)
so yeah... why lie?
Oh yah? I think the following your post is quite saying about.. well, you know. Also I do not understand why people bring posts from other forums. Anyway this thread is gone quite a wrong way, I, as a thread starter, politely request the mod to lock this thread.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim from AnandTech
quote from AT forums
hey man nothing personal, we just want all members to contribute that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopri
If you think about your original post and everything, you did set it up to end like this. Shim has a point, you lied about not knowing the stepping information so you can drag this into a big deal, and we don't like being drawn out like that.
but you did lie... didn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by lopri
yoru results are great. and there's nothing wrong with them. it's the way that you presented them that made people get rubbed all wrong by you.
had you posted a simple...
this is my chip and my results with this stepping info + setup...
screenshot
screenshot
now i'm gonna try to figure out if this fx60 reject theory is true....
that would have been so much better and people woud have probably been more willing to help you instead of getting so annoyed with you
VERY nice clocks.
lol this is hilarious
heh....I'll give credit where credit due though, I was a bit surprised that this lopri dude didn't get too worked up or overly defensive over all the negative comments he gets from this thread :D :D Since he'd already reveals the stepping then cut him some slack and forgive him for lying man, no point in keep giving him some Da Vinci Style lecture. :lol:
hehehe... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
aite. sorry.
i'll stop. i'm done.
Sorry Lopri. let's get back on topic.
Lopri, any chance you'll put this CPU under phase change?
lopri, we are glad to have you here, we are just a sharing community.
Awesome job on the clocks, we are here to share, learn and hopefully break some records while we are at it.
Dont forget to add the 0546SMPW to your list, it seems to be just as strong as the 0546XPMW from what I have tested.
And the 0550UPMW isnt bad either.
The 0530TPMW and 0550VPWM are the only two I have personally been able to take to 3gighz.
Here is my experience.
Opteron 175 0530 TPMW was sold to Florance on XS, he seemed to be doing well with it, havent heard from him in a bit
Opteron 170 0530 TPMW 1.55vcore 3gighz under water
Opteron 165 0534 SPMW 1.55vcore 2.75gighz air
Opteron 175 0546 SPMW 1.55vcore 2.9 on air
Opteron 170 0546 XPMW 1.55vcore 2.9 on air
Opteron 170 0550 VPMW 1.52vcore 3.0 on air
Opteron 165 0550 UPMW Unknown... MB is giving me anger problems. so far 2.8, highest FSB mobo will allow, switching mobos and testing now.
Now you all know my opteron stories.
Attached you'll find the Socket 939 Opterons' (single- and dual- core) steppings/substrates/batch #'s information I've gathered from the chips that I've personally owned, and collected randomly over the net. I don't think I will carry this project on any more because of my general loss of interest in Socket 939 Opterons. (meaning no more impulse-buy)
Anyone can use the attached data for his/her own research.
Thanks.
P.S. #1 Phase? I haven't even dreamed of it. I'm not that extreme. :D
P.S. #2 Some of you are not very patient. Sorry I had to say this. :nono:
P.S. #3 In the attached file, all the tested clocks are at least 8 hrs. of SmallFFT (dual)Prime95 stable.
I've taken my SLI-DR to 430 stable, these DFI's are pure beasts.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopri
Most of the old DFI mb's wouldn't clock past 335. My first Ultra-d's stopped at about 335. The ADO's I got on rma or bought will all go 400+.Quote:
Originally Posted by FragTek
Dude you got a lot of CPUs.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopri
And your 3Ger has a twin sister :fact:
My AB0 does at least 350 clean...never actually tried higher...I'll give it a go now I suppose...Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
Anyway, if your board is holding you back dude...that should really be a priority to upgrade, especially with that gem.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
I don't think so, my DFI baby SLI-DR (one year ago) could pass 450-460HTT :D .
The old thread here http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...237#post709237
hmm, what's this dfi nf3 doing? :D:D
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=34163
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
It's only acheivable if you have zen-like qualities in abundance...
If I had that quality, then I wouldn't buy faster processors, GFX, RAM... I would calmly contemplate the meaning of life while waiting for windows to load.
As it is, I'm more akin to Tim Allen than the Dali Lama... More Power!!!
A slow speed? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Most is the key word, I did not say all.Quote:
Originally Posted by iMAX