Zippy 700W impression and fan mod

Initially I was going to get the PCP&C 850W but I'm never a fan of split rails, after some research and hunting on the net I found only two PSU that matches my need, the Zippy/Emacs 700W PSU (PSL-6701P) and the Athena Power AP-P4ATX85FE EPS12V 850W, both of them are in the exact same price range and the 12v rail is very close, but I have never heard of the Athena Power, couldn't find any reviews anywhere, and not that it matter but one quick visit to their website had clearly steer me away from this brand. So my only option was the Zippy, after a 20min conversation and bunch of technical questions with Edward at Zippy's office in CA I felt very confident in getting this unit, and so I did from servercase.com.

Well, I received this thing yesterday and to my surprised it's pretty big and heavy comparing to the PCP&C 510 SLI, construction and quality is top notch, but I was warned that this unit is very loud so it was being jump start as soon as I took it out of the box, indeed...this stock fan reminds me of the dang 92mm Tornado!! After 10 hours of work at data center the last thing I need is to come home to some noisy machine again :lol: I could of slice the stock fan wire and hacked up the PSU case to install a pot or fan controller, but I still have some AMD stock hs/f laying around so I use the 80mm that came with my 170 Opteron instead, this fan has a thermistor so when the temperature reach about 106 F' it could spin up to 5000rpm @57cfm so it's an excellent choice for replacement. The 3pin connector from this fan fits pretty well onto the PSU's 2pin header, it's very secure and wont' come off unless I yanked violently.

This little fan pull lots of air and VERY quiet, I can't hear any fan noise even after couple hours of dual prime unless I place my ears directly on the PSU. All rails are rock solid with my 170 running at 3.10Ghz, I'll push it more once I received the Gskill HZ ram tomorrow, for now here's a couple pictures for your viewing pleasure ;)

3pin connector in place, blue cable for temperature not used.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=42954


Stock fan vs. AMD fan(don't let the small size fool you!!)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=42955


AMD fan installed
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=42956


Zippy 700W vs. PCP&C 510 SLI
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=42957


wimpy mid tower or smaller case need not apply!! Even the Antec Full tower barely have enough space to fit this beast ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=42958

That's one sweet looking PSU, and one scary looking 80mm stock fan :D

did you disable the thermistor from the delta/amd fun? if yes how did you do it (I tried to cut it from mine and now appears to be dead)
sanyos are very good fans and i see that this one is 80x38 (or 80x32)?? so it may have more pressure than the delta

Man that psu is big! Are concerned about heat getting trapped between it and your optical drives?

I left the thermistor intact, if the PSU get too hot so the fan will do it's job to pull even harder, but I'm still surprise how strong this little AMD fan is!! :D Since I'm running with the side panel opened for phase change heat isn't an issue, even if the panel is close it should have just enough room to get some hot air out. ;)

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ok I thought you didn't use it the blue wire...
the sanyo fan is 80x32 or 80x38 ? look thiker than the delta...

I didn't, the blue one is for temperature monitoring purpose and the PSU only has 2pin header so all I did is make sure the black and red are connected :D The stock Sanyo ACE 80 is 1.25" thick, it's quite heavy and too loud for workstation, definitely wouldn't want this thing running anywhere close to my computer room :lol:

Just a little update, with my 510 SLI this 170 running at 3.30Ghz @1.65v the pc would ALWAYS reboot itself after 5min of prime, the 510 ran out of breath pretty quick but now with this new Zippy the core 0 kept going while core 1 just error out after 10min of dual prime, no reboot whatsoever, all rails are rock solid...I love this thing!!!

what did u get for suidcide shot maxes with each psu?

edit: damn, that san ace fan is 51 dbs......!!!!!!! freaking loud.

I have also changed the stock fan in my Zippy 700.. I have never heard such a loud fan in a psu!! I have put an enermax fan 55 cfm(if i remember correct) where the stock fan was and one more fan in the front of the psu(on the outside). The psu still runs cold and it is much more quiet..
one thing more. Zippy is the best psu i have ever tested.. With this i managed to take my X2 3800 to 3405 with 2.01 vcore(about 300+ watts only the cpu)!!

Nice find there Ben:toast:

Its huge.....heres with Antec430 and Enermax660.....

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9591/zippy4dv.jpg

When I had PC P&C 510 sli I also changed that super loud 5K rpm fan. But to ensure temps are ok I installed additional low rpm fan at the front of PSU. So 2 quiet fans were better than 1 loud.

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Originally Posted by crmaris

With this i managed to take my X2 3800 to 3405 with 2.01 vcore(about 300+ watts only the cpu)!!

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lol 2V, poor cpu :p:

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Originally Posted by fareastgq

what did u get for suidcide shot maxes with each psu?

edit: damn, that san ace fan is 51 dbs......!!!!!!! freaking loud.

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suicide shot with 510SLI it was only 3.35 but as soon as I launch spi the pc reboot itself. I haven't try max suicide with the Zippy but I have no problem boot right into windows and run spi at 3.40Ghz. Zippy Powa!!! :D :D

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I have also changed the stock fan in my Zippy 700.. I have never heard such a loud fan in a psu!! I have put an enermax fan 55 cfm(if i remember correct) where the stock fan was and one more fan in the front of the psu(on the outside). The psu still runs cold and it is much more quiet..
one thing more. Zippy is the best psu i have ever tested.. With this i managed to take my X2 3800 to 3405 with 2.01 vcore(about 300+ watts only the cpu)!!

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I hear this type of loud fan at our data center on daily basis, but for workstation at home it's ridiculous to have this stuff screaming at your ears. I didn't add 2nd fan to the front as I found the AMD fan works perfectly fine, it moves tons of air and very quite. after hours of dual prime at 3.20Ghz the air coming out of the back of this PSU is only tiny bit warm, this zippy runs surprisingly cool!!! totally agreed with you....best PSU I've ever seen and own :toast:

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Originally Posted by Dumo

Nice find there Ben:toast:

Its huge.....heres with Antec430 and Enermax660.....

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9591/zippy4dv.jpg

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Thanks man ;) yup this thing is beast as far as size and powa concern! definitely need a deep case for it. :D :D

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Originally Posted by pcfreak

did you disable the thermistor from the delta/amd fun? if yes how did you do it (I tried to cut it from mine and now appears to be dead)
sanyos are very good fans and i see that this one is 80x38 (or 80x32)?? so it may have more pressure than the delta

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Man, you shouldn't cut it, you have to join the legs of the thermistor, doing a short ( i don't know the exact meaning ) on it.

off to find a zippy that has serial-ata connectors.

Their gaming powersupplies dont look bad either, but man I want the 700W single 12A rail! *drool*

Good caps on that powersupply too!

well guys, JUST got my zippy 700, and yeah the 51db fan is about to be switched out with the AMD opty fan for me too. Anyway, just thought I would share that I can now suicide shot at 2.78 mhz on stock volts. and 2.8 now takes .025 LESS volts to be game / 24/7 stable. Was 1.425 before, now it's 1.4. BTW, mine is silver and looks nice, not sure why some of u say it's ugly, matches nicely with the aluminum on my 7707 I think. MONDAY the rd-20/pa120.3/g5 gets back up and running! Then I'll see what this psu can really do with some H20. Well, I think I am done for now, this SIG will last me till quad core.

Hmmmm, I'm off to buy a Zippy 700W now :fact:

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Originally Posted by fareastgq

well guys, JUST got my zippy 700, and yeah the 51db fan is about to be switched out with the AMD opty fan for me too. Anyway, just thought I would share that I can now suicide shot at 2.78 mhz on stock volts. and 2.8 now takes .025 LESS volts to be game / 24/7 stable. Was 1.425 before, now it's 1.4. BTW, mine is silver and looks nice, not sure why some of u say it's ugly, matches nicely with the aluminum on my 7707 I think. MONDAY the rd-20/pa120.3/g5 gets back up and running! Then I'll see what this psu can really do with some H20. Well, I think I am done for now, this SIG will last me till quad core.

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Where did you get it from?

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Originally Posted by rick_fx

Where did you get it from?

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he got it from the same place I bought mine, servercase.com, look for model PSL-6701P

i got mine from here:

http://store.myaopen.com/zipps70brpow.html

Good guys, they called me to verify order, they also assured me that theirs had SATA hdd connectors which sealed the deal for me.

Considering they are on the east coast, just means faster shipping. I am a happy guy :)

Thanks ben! That Sanyo fan looks like it is good quality... made in japan and looks heavy duty, is it really that unbearable?


Now... to make this fit in my P180 Case :-D

Aopen doesn't ship outside USA and servercase.com only ships express (107$) or UPS Standard (22$ + the customs + taxes = at least 100$) :eek:

Still searching for a store that ships via USPS ...

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Where did you get it from?

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Email Zippy Canada from this page: http://www.zippy.com.tw/P_WORLDWIDE.asp?lv_rfnbr=2

He quoted me $320 Canadian for one direct from them. Only thing that stopped me was money and the fact I didn't have any :(

Hey Ben,
Can you explain little bit more why you're not a big fan of split rails and pc p&c 850ssi? I just got one but it had to rma'ed due to a dead -5V rail. Maybe I should just cancel the rma and return it instead.

Sam

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Originally Posted by rick_fx

Aopen doesn't ship outside USA and servercase.com only ships express (107$) or UPS Standard (22$ + the customs + taxes = at least 100$) :eek:

Still searching for a store that ships via USPS ...

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servercase.com also ship Fedex.

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Originally Posted by SamHughe

Hey Ben,
Can you explain little bit more why you're not a big fan of split rails and pc p&c 850ssi? I just got one but it had to rma'ed due to a dead -5V rail. Maybe I should just cancel the rma and return it instead.

Sam

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Most split rails PSU have anywhere between 15~18A on each, I just do not like the idea of limiting my motherboard and cpu to only 15~18A especially when I ran the dual cores at 3.2Ghz or higher. Now, if they're about 25~30a each then it might worth considering, but if it didn't get used up by the mobo and cpu then the rest on that first rail pretty much go to waste, you can't shift those unused power to 2nd or 3rd rail for accessories (hdd, video card, etc.)

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Originally Posted by ben805

servercase.com also ship Fedex.

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Fedex charges the same as UPS. It costs roughly 37 cents in customs and taxes for every dollar imported to Canada. So, a 280$ PSU will cost me a certain 100$ plus the original shipping charge (around 20$), for a 400$ total :(

The reason I insist having it shipped USPS is that a worst case scenario involves paying 15% taxes on the insured value. To note is that only 1 in 10 packages are imposed taxes on. :)

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Originally Posted by rick_fx

Fedex charges the same as UPS. It costs roughly 37 cents in customs and taxes for every dollar imported to Canada. So, a 280$ PSU will cost me a certain 100$ plus the original shipping charge (around 20$), for a 400$ total :(

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Again, Zippy Canada will directly sell you one. Not sure what courier they use. Make sure to specify the PSL-6701P... at first he thought I was talking about the PSL-6700P which is higher on the 5v and lower on the 12v.

Forgot to mention though, this place also apparently carries them for the low price of $511 (search for Zippy): www.sosinfo.qc.ca

rick, if my zippy doesnt fit in my case I will sell it to you.

I have a P180 and I am going to attempt some mods to make it fit, but if it doesnt... you can pick it up off me.

Guys, this is freakin amazing, I have to report that it now takes .087 LESS volts to hit my 3gig 24/7 OC. Again, that's just damn amazing. There is no reason to buy a pcp&c 800w or 1000w IMO.

Btw I am on water again with what's in sig.

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Originally Posted by irev210

rick, if my zippy doesnt fit in my case I will sell it to you.

I have a P180 and I am going to attempt some mods to make it fit, but if it doesnt... you can pick it up off me.

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Ok, let me know how things go.

@fareastgq: What PSU did you have before this 700W Zippy?

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Originally Posted by SamHughe

Hey Ben,
Can you explain little bit more why you're not a big fan of split rails and pc p&c 850ssi? I just got one but it had to rma'ed due to a dead -5V rail. Maybe I should just cancel the rma and return it instead.

Sam

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I just got a full refund on a PCP&C 1 KW because it will not power my Supermicro H8QC8. Some individual rail is overloaded and the protection kicks in after a second. The same board posts fine on a OCZ 520W - which is single-rail.

I am looking into a Athena Power AP-P4ATX85FE: 48A on a single rail.

I don't want the headache of modding the PSU for noise, and the Athena is supposed to be pretty quiet.

Well, this is by far the best quality PSU I have seen.

Ignoring the sub 300 dollar price tag, I see this as better than a Power PC and Cooling 850 watt.

Everything is damn near perfect! I dont mind the fan noise that much.. a high quality made in japan sanyo denki fan is always nice, but that is me. I quickly ripped mine open to make sure that mine was similarly pictured to bens. My EMI filter is made by delta, that was the only difference that I saw, which is a good thing.

The biggest caps were rubycons, there were two located in front of the transformers. The second biggest caps were chemicon, i saw a few rubycon ~2200uF caps, and the small caps seemed to be nichicon. The huge main caps, the fact that they were rubycons blew me away.

The mosfets were infineon which, again, is awesome.

I love the fact that I am not paying for lame cable wrap, stupid colored lights, flashy paint jobs... just performance..



Edit: Woohoo! It fits in my Antec P180! But Barely!!

This thing rocks

I'll be ordering the Zippy 700W but untill it gets here I added the AMD fan to my PCP&C 510 SLI. gave it a quick test this morning and all seemed fine. However being a perpetual noob I'm unclear on the 3rd blue wire. Because of the connector situation on the 510 SLI I cut the wire on the AMD fan and connected the red and black wires. I left the blue wire loose. Will this be ok or do I need to change something.

I ordered the Athena 850 Watts (single rail). Now I'm eager to give it a spin.

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@fareastgq: What PSU did you have before this 700W Zippy?

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pcp&c 510 SLI

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I'll be ordering the Zippy 700W but untill it gets here I added the AMD fan to my PCP&C 510 SLI. gave it a quick test this morning and all seemed fine. However being a perpetual noob I'm unclear on the 3rd blue wire. Because of the connector situation on the 510 SLI I cut the wire on the AMD fan and connected the red and black wires. I left the blue wire loose. Will this be ok or do I need to change something.

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Nevermind I got it. The blue wire relays rpm info and the thermostat works regardless of the wire.

question, since I just ordered one...

How many molex's and SATA connector's does it have?

Also, does it have 2x pci-e connectors or am I gonna have to solder them on?

Yep the Zipppy 700W has 2x6 pin pci express connectors (Emacs 700W ATX PS 24+8+4+2 x6pin, 8.75" DEEP, 8big+2small connectors)

got mine today. Sweet looking supply. Swapped out the fan and in the process of sleeving it now.

This things a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to sleeve because the wires all are interlocked in each other.....ugh...

well i'll be ordering the athena in a few days for a Bud ..... seems his OCZ 600w is not holding up to the load ...... so he'll swap it to his Kids PC

gonna talk him into the Athena 850w ( been reading about the Single 12v Rails )
and if it seems to be a Good one ......... i'll get one for my self :D

Unless of corse Uopt gives a poor Review of his :rolleyes:

looks like we'll see a battle between the zippy 700 and athena 850, woo.

[copied from the other thread]

My Athena 850 W arrived.

First impression is very good. Is a nomal size PSU, i.e. small. The fan is much quieter than the one in the PCP&C 1 KW, although at close range it has a slight metallic rattle to it, so it is not in same class as my Seasonics. It has separate 4 and 8 pin EPS12W, none of the shared 4+4 rubbish. I like that it comes with caps to close unused connectors. Too many SATA connectors and not enough Molex, though.

Newegg packaging sucks.

I don't have my powermeter connected to measure efficiency but the exhaust air stays absolutely cool when powering my DC Opteron at its max overclock, cooler than the OCZ 520W is. This is certainly a high-efficiency PSU.

It holds the overclock on that Opteron with sustained dual-primes just like the OCZ does (which e.g. my Zalman couldn't).

Glad you guys have great result with the Zippy, they use top notch components in this beast so it doesn't matter what kind of load I threw at it, the voltage always remain ROCK SOLID, I love this thang!! :D And yes it came with the 8pin power connector along with 2 PCI-X and some SATA connectors.

The Athena has higher power rating but it's almost half the size of the Zippy 700 or PCP&C 850 so the quality of the components they used is very suspicious, uOpt...if you don't mind can you please open it up and take a few shots of the Athena's internal so we can see what kind of stuff in it?

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I just got a full refund on a PCP&C 1 KW because it will not power my Supermicro H8QC8. Some individual rail is overloaded and the protection kicks in after a second. The same board posts fine on a OCZ 520W - which is single-rail.

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That's the main reason why I stay far away from split rails :D :D

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uOpt...if you don't mind can you please open it up and take a few shots of the Athena's internal so we can see what kind of stuff in it?

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I'm dying to see internal pics too... for $300, I'd expect no less than Zippy, Etasis, or Win-Tact/PC P&C quality ;)

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The Athena has higher power rating but it's almost half the size of the Zippy 700 or PCP&C 850 so the quality of the components they used is very suspicious, uOpt...if you don't mind can you please open it up and take a few shots of the Athena's internal so we can see what kind of stuff in it?

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I'm running it for some time now. Contrary to my initial impression is is actually quite loud towards the rear, I just didn't notice it when it was turned away from me.

I plan to investigate the quality of this PSU some more before hooking up my Supermicro board. I am not convinced it is that great.

I have lost two CPUs in the last days, the first ever. While I don't think this PSU is a likely cause it's on the list of possibilities.

Just to let you all know that this post alone has been enough for me to order the Zippy 700W instead of either the PCP&C 1kw or 850W PSUs.

However, I really want to sleeve this beast since it looks like medusa's head dipped in a rainbow. I think it will be quite the challange but I'll hopefully post some pics within the next few weeks.

Are you guys replacing the fan with the stock AMD fan from the retail box (I'm buying an Opty 170 retail version)? Any other recommendations for something better than the stock AMD fan (i'm doubting the quality)?

I got my Zippy 700 W and it works on the Supermicro H8QC8 with no problems.

It does not work with my SLI-DR with the Vdimm jumper in the 4.0 V position.

It's running my Supermicro for a while now but it is so loud that I want to replace it even though it is in a separate room.

I started a new thread collecting data on high-power PSUs. Please contribute. This nonsense has to stop.

Does anyone know if this will fit in a lian-li PC60?

I am going phase, so the P180 has got to go.

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Does anyone know if this will fit in a lian-li PC60?

I am going phase, so the P180 has got to go.

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I am curious about this also, as I have a PC-60 Plus...

-Thanks

I ended up sending this Zippy 700W to performance-pcs.com for custom sleeving and modulation of the cables. It was well worth the $100 since it still cost less than a PCP&C. The fan is indeed the loudest part of my PC (all air cooling) so I may try the AMD fan that also came w/ my Opty 170.

I may opt for the 2nd fan in front to make sure nothing goes bad.

Although this is a beast, I'm having slight doubts whether it can truly power my X1900 Crossfire cards. My OC's aren't great 680/800 and I have the new Zalman VF900 fans and nice copper RAM sinks. The other reason is that I get small wavy distortions across my CRT screen when the CPU is being used to do anything. It's very faint but you can see how I might think this is power-related since it only happens when I stress the CPU a bit (and by a bit I mean opening Firefox even).

Can anyone assure me that this can indeed handle the power draw from 2 X1900 Crossfire cards? Thanks!

yes, it can handle the power draw from 2 x1900 no problem. I've done it on mine, no problem!

sweet PSU :D

really good performer

i just got my zippy installed yesterday and it is rock solid. i highly reccomend this psu.

The only problem with my Zippy 700W, apart from the noise, is that it doesn't run my DFI SLI-DR with the jumper set for 4.0 Vdimm.

No matter what voltage is set in the BIOS, if the jumper is in that position the overload protection kicks in.

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The only problem with my Zippy 700W, apart from the noise, is that it doesn't run my DFI SLI-DR with the jumper set for 4.0 Vdimm.

No matter what voltage is set in the BIOS, if the jumper is in that position the overload protection kicks in.

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Have a look at this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...i+zippy+jumper

Got my Zippy 700W unit recently and it's great. Very loud, but still great. I modified it a bit already, using Hipro's guide. Now I can change 12V, 5V and 3.3V with potentiometers from outside the case, at the front of the PSU. Also soldered in some more power cables (my unit was a special server version for Tyan servers) and will do a fan mod soon. This thing is the best, and heaviest, PSU that I ever owned.

And guess what, it only cost me ~38$ (30,-EUR), because someone sold it on eBay and noone noticed what it was and that it's worth more than 200$. :) Sometimes I really like eBay and what I like even more is being really lucky from time to time. :)

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The only problem with my Zippy 700W, apart from the noise, is that it doesn't run my DFI SLI-DR with the jumper set for 4.0 Vdimm.

No matter what voltage is set in the BIOS, if the jumper is in that position the overload protection kicks in.

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The good thing is when you go to DDR2 the problem is gone.:D

i hate to bump this thread since it is pretty old, but would doing the fan mod with a 3 pin to 2 pin connector work just as well? Its just I would feel better if it were a clean fit with the connector, and does the amd fan hold up? I dont want to fry this awesome psu.

that thing is godamn huge seeing it in a case.

i might take another though on trying to procure one now lol

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i hate to bump this thread since it is pretty old, but would doing the fan mod with a 3 pin to 2 pin connector work just as well? Its just I would feel better if it were a clean fit with the connector, and does the amd fan hold up? I dont want to fry this awesome psu.

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Some poeple need to remember one thing when replacing the standard fan the PSU came with. Emacs/Zippy used such a high speed fan for a reason! You can't just take any slower spinning fan and use that.
OK, most of the time, in most people's systems the PSU won't be under full load anyway, but if it is, then the lack of cooling could easily cause problems! That's why I used 2x 80x80x32mm fans made by Papst, which are much quieter than the single stock fan. But you need two to make up for the weaker airflow per single fan (push-pull constellation needed).
As I said, you may not run into any problems with one weaker fan as long as you don't fully load the PSU. But once you do, it'll strike back if you're unlucky.

ok so it has the x 6p in pcie connectors

but how many molex? and SATA aswell


at psu needs at least 6 molex imo or its crap


anyone? and this thing sure doesnt look crap..the site isnt very informative on connections.

2-Floppy Type connectors, 8 Molex connectors, 4 SATA connectors, 3 6-pin connectors, 2 8-pin connectors, 1 4-pin connector, and 24-pin connector on PSL-6850P

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ippyCables.jpg

Pics not working. Window opens with nothing there.

i'm liking the sleeving on those connectors.

i'm trying to order a PSL-6850 from zippy canada however, my email with info has gone unoticed at their offices.


its good to hear so many quality refered comments on these units.

Hopefully it'll be money well spent.

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