http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29137
Fudo's got a point. Where are all the Nvidia fans boys now? :confused:
Here are some benchies.
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/gf7300gs-3.htm
-7300GS Benchies Added - Perkam
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http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29137
Fudo's got a point. Where are all the Nvidia fans boys now? :confused:
Here are some benchies.
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/gf7300gs-3.htm
-7300GS Benchies Added - Perkam
Hehe read this and was about to post it.
We don't need Fanboys we need hard launches
And right now
There was no reason to paper launch a low end card. Doesnt make any sense.. very strange if you ask me.
There better not be a Falling out otherwise I'm gonna be pissed
It could be because the X1300 may be doing well...which wouldn't be surprising...the All-In-Wonder Edition is all over the new ViiV edition systems...seeing as for $100, it has both Media Center capability and Windows Vista LDDM support...a better price/performance ratio than the X1600 even...
Thread Title edited for Length...
Perkam
Nvidia shipped all chips to China, it seems....
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29145Quote:
Nvidia ships GeForce 7300GS in China
Available in China:
http://price.blueidea.com/products/p...php?subcatid=6
Shame on you NV!
dont forget the 7800 gtx 512mb cards... where are they?
:ROTF: @ that link
yes bit tech says the same they shipped all to china because there is the new year
Benchies: http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/gf7300gs-3.htm
Perkam
Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
nv has been hording the memory for the 7900gtx's
And where's that? ;)
x1900xt is already here.
Hardlaunch definition is not a product available for 1 week then none for months....Quote:
they were avaible at launch, so no paper launch
Nvidia is smart people , they have a nasty strategy...
You are the worst case of my definition of being biased...:)
NV need more than a startegy;they need hardlaunch...:p:
Check the benchies posted in the first post. Its remarkable how well it does against the X1300...though the x1300 is equal to the challenge a whole 4 months later.
Makes me want to get an X1300 PRO...seeing as its a full card with lots of ocing potential, and comes within 9-10fps range of performance of the X1600.
In any event, Nvidia users (seeing as there will always be those that prefer either company, which is fact, not bias) building value rigs will be excited at the prospect of higher 3d05 performance than the X1300, awesome overclockability (G72 Core) and a great price for Sm 3.0 hardware.
If you take a look at the performance we've getting for sub $100 cards today and compare them against the last generation, you'll be very happy to see a change in direction towards many mainstream features showing up in value based cards. The over-emphasis on high end cards from both sides seems to have overshadowed this development for the most part, though not without the influx of X1300 members strutting their ocing stuff in x3d earlier last month :)
On that note, thread has been renamed 7300/7600 News and Info and stickied :)
Perkam
these 2 cards r very good multi media cards and id like to see a review were both r compaired on multi media stuff besides the usual 3dmark benches and games.
so stuff like power usage, options etc and ofc when its official compairing purevideo with Avivo.
of course there is. And it's only a half paper launch. In China and Asia it's a hard launch, but not here. Reason is, it would be nearly impossible to coordinate a worldwide release. Don't forget, the 7800GT may have hard launched over here last year, but it certainly paper launched in some countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
my 6800 is better ;)
im sticking with it for now.. :D
Your 6800 will not match either of those cards in multi-media features, nntp.
And welcome to XS :welcome: :woot:
Perkam
NVIDIA is based in the USA, not in China. Therefore, it's a paper launch.
To me this is still a hard launch, not launched in your country of choice doesn't count, it's available in Asia for Chinese New Year Season. The U.S. isn't the center of the planet, there are other countries out there.
what is the point of this card? it seems very impracticle to me. couldn't you spend the same price on an outdated card that was once considered to be good and out perform the 7300?
The 7300 GS, is produce on the G72 core which is smaller and cheaper to make then the 6500 NV44 card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveb2012
Like all Turbo Cache cards it's limited to 64Bit Memory Interface further helping reduce costs.
If we used the Vanilla Geforce 6600 as an example that not only is more expensive to make because of a larger die size and 128Bit Memory Interface, It lacks the newer features of the G7x series such as TAA, enhanced pixel shader units, video features etc.
So to summarize, the GPU will cost less to make for Nvidia, and gives more performance then the MSRP product it's replacing, what's not to like??? Both NV and the consumer win.
for people that wanna see wich multi media features come with weach nvidia card
http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html
tbh if id wanna buy a multi media card id go with the 6600.
as seen in the charts it seems to deliver all the multi media stuff the 7300 does ( ( i guess that the 7300 will at max do the stuff the 7800 can) but is already available and is very cheap and will b more of a card for occasionel gaming.
and to the contrary of the X1300 and X1600 it will deliver 1080 P resolutions.
More info here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ghlight=7300GS
The cards are available in Singapore since last week
so basically thier isnt a more less expensive card out their that can out perform a 7300 series card is what your saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by coldpower27
Yeah, less expensive for you to buy perhaps, less expensive for Nvidia to make no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveb2012
Still no 7300/7600 in the USA yet.. *grows impatient*
will b a while till the 7600 hits anywere.
im having my ideas about what kind of card the 7600 can b if u look a the gap between 7300 and soon to come 7900.
Why do you assume that the 7600 will be in the middle of the gap?
that is a wide gap... i dont think the 7600 will fill that gap i guess more something like 7300 7600 7800gt (more near too the 7800gt)
anyone has any info on the 7900gt?
true i think there will b a quicker version of the 7300, one with 128bit that can actualy beat the X1300pro.
but i doubt theyl continue the 7800 when the 7900 comes.
as its 110nm, the GTX would b near the price of a potential 7900gt etc.
stil the gap between a 128bit 7300 and 7900GT is big.
and i doubt theyl keep making 7800s once the 7900 is around.
7800gt is so cheap now... hope the 7900gt keeps that price range
Well it would depend on how powerful it is in realtion to 7800 GTX 256.
I highly doubt there will be a 7900Gt because the 7900Gtx is to be like the 6800Ultra
last great of the 7series
that's some simpleton logic you got going there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
then what will they do with the G71 cores that dont meet the requirements to be a GTX?Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
and what will they do to feed the market thats below the 7900GTX?
as i doubt theyl keep continuing the 7800 cards.
maybe a 90nm 7800GT.
this dutch site got a few pics of the 7600.
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/41117
the first one is the 7600GT i guess and it doesnt seem to have an external power connector :)
the 2nd one with that huge heatsink is the 7600GS i gues.
and u see a black line in the shape of a horse shoe on that huge heatsink wich maybe is a heatpipe?
You beat me to it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
Seems like a good card to me!
:p:
hope it uses less power then the X1600 while giving more gaming power then it will b my next media pc grafix card.
That's amazing that it doesn't use an external power connector. NVIDIA's 90nm design must be really good. And it should be at least as fast as the 6800GS in most cases, I'm predicting.
Isn't the 7600 going to be a 90nm 6800gs on a 128bit memory interface?
If so the added clocks will help speed things up, but the narrow bus will limit the use of aa/af at higher resolutions.
Yeah lets hope Nvidias move to 90nm is a good move.
shouldnt take long for these cards to get into retail as Nvidia said a while ago that the 7600 will use the same pcb design as the 6600 so the switch on the production line should b a quick and easy one.
Yeah, it will be. If you look at how people overclocked the 7300gs, it overclocks to a decent core speed, similar to lower-volted x1k products. Turn up the juice a little, and the 700mhz specs seem within reason, 750mhz seems possible they might get a yield problem though, hence a slight wait.
Vr-zone posted a while back that 7600gt will be 12 pipes, 128bit, with high(er) clock speeds, I figure somewhere around stock 600. So yeah, I think it garner pretty decent performance, perhaps inbetween 6800gs/gt/u and 7800gs performance like was stated, I think probably overclocking ~7800gs power or better...It is planned to be the mid-range for quite a while, as I understand it (although you think g80 would make you think other-wise), and they probably want it to last.
Vr-zone also said products will be released on the first day of CeBit. Here's the article BEFORE it was editted (:slapass: ;)) :
No doubt there will be a 512mb 7900gt (as has been stated) as well, even if it isn't mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by vr-zone
I`ve read somewhere that 7900GT will be equivalent to curent GTX512 - specs wise.
http://www.behardware.com/news/7988/...orce-7600.htmlQuote:
We started receiving information about the future GeForce 7600. Two versions could be released at least mid March. Both will be clocked at 500/500 MHz core/GDDR3 memory, but won't include the same amount of processing units:
- GS: 8 pixel pipeline, 3 vertex engine
- GT : 12 pixel pipeline, 5 vertex engine
seems like a low core speed considering it's 90nm, and the 7300GS can do higher on a passive cooler.
lets hope it means we can clock the snot out of it :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
that are they wanna leave some headroom to counter a possible X1700.
or those clockspeeds are so it wont need an external power connector.
but i had expected the ram to b clocked a lil higher.
hello guys i found this.
Small resume:
Specs:
GeForce 7600GT has
12 pixel pipes
5 Vertex Shaders
core: 500Mhz,
mems: 500mhz 1.4ns Tristar width 128bit
3dmark03: 11712
3dmark05: 5426
p.d. look at the cpu that they used, screenshot in the link below
Seen first at chilehardware
God thats so unfair... thats like what my 6800GT got at stock almost a year ago :stick:
I did a long time ago lol... Im just amazed at the progress of graphics cards latelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Willis
of course it's going to do well in 05, it has a high vertex rate.
those benchs were done with a stock venice 3000+ so thats pure vga power think of it with a 3000mhz opty :)
pretty nice for a budget card
I think it won`t be much difference. This card isn`t CPU bottleneckQuote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
Wow...and ATI's had its own 12-Pipe X1600XT 1.4ns 128bit card out for months that does 5.2k in 05 and 11k in 03, yet everyone seems to think its too bandwith limited :rolleyes:
So I see the X1600's true competitor is here. At $125, its considerably cheaper though, interesting.
Perkam
I think this one is bandwidth limited too perkam.
If it is only $125, that'd make this the king of budget though...
Considering the 7800GTX will drop in price, the 7800GT will drop in price, it makes sense that this card will be below $200, as the $200 price point will probably belong to the 7800GT.
Dang! That's better than my former C3D X800GTO @ 16p 600/500!
I think yr card will outperform this one in gaming with AA/AF ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 5-Clicks
Undoubtedly...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper
Perkam
Yep, all thanks to NVidia still keeping the budget/mid-range game at a 128-bit memory bus. I wonder who's going to be the first to finally make 256-bit standard for the mid-range(and not just a temp card like the 6800gs or the x800GT/GTO/GTO2/RX).Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
I was wondering, where is everyone reading that it's going to be $125? I can see that for the 7600GS, but this is way more of a card for that sort of price.
isnt 1.4ns ram rated todo 700mhz so 1400?
so why does it run 500 when its rated todo 700 or am i mistaken with the speed its rated for.
btw a x1600xt running at 590/690 costs about 160-170euro overhere.
wich more or less gets the same 3dmark05 score as this 7600GT does if im not mistaken so nvidia would b stupid to put the 7600Gts price above the X1600xt.
Really though, this is just a die-shrunk 6800GS with a bit more ALU power.
Still makes good OCing though
IMO that won't happen until entry-level moves up to 8 pixel-pipelines.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
I doubt if ever, 200mm2 or larger dies are what seems to be needed for 256Bit Wide Memory Interface, this is currently too expensive for the mainstream segment with their ~150mm2 or lower die sizes.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
This card has the potential for 60% of the 6800 GS bandwidth if clocked at the right speed for it's memory, this should be enough for 1024x768 AA/AF which this card is targetting.
I don't think G73 will ever need a power connector on PCI-Express at least, it's only GPU based on high end cores that do typically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
don't think it'll happen for a while, with the advent of GDDR4 @ 3.2GHz
7600GT Thread Merged with This One.
--Threads Merged--
Perkam
More idiotic news by inq: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29800
Good specs except:
- 7600 won't be $249
- 6800GS isn't $249 now
Perkam
So it should be 256bit no? Then I have a feeling the x1800gto will be fasterQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1228969Quote:
Originally Posted by denniszz
rofl the win looks funny
why did the blur out the name of the manufacturer fo the 7600GT?
everyone knows that the blurred name is Asus.
7600GT Pics, Specs
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=908
MUCH more reasonable clockspeeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
anyone got an idea as to why?Quote:
Some manufacturers have told us that boards and final products have been ready to ship for several months but NVIDIA has held off on launch. No details were given as to why.
would it b as simple as that they wanted to give the partners the chance to sell the 6800gs?
If that's vendor clockspeeds, I wonder if the reference clocks are still 500/1000.
Seems weird that they would overclock the memory 400MHz. That's quite a lot.
yeah but the specs that said default clocks are 500/1000 (i think metro gave those)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
also said that the default ram was 1.4ns and when those specs were i posted i asked why the reference design used 1.4ns ram but was only clocked to 1000mhz were as the ram was rated for a much higher clockspeed.
Giving your vendors some headroom is one thing, but 40%? A bit much...
btw according to theinq Nvidia is gonna try to boost H.264.
they r gonna bundle a full version of their software for free with the 7600GT and GS.
their last purevideo driver lost vs avivo but nvidia said they are gonna bring out a new version wich should b alot better then the current one.
its said this new version will arive aroudn cebit time.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29852
maybe 1.4ns ram is cheaper now (or they had a lot of it in stock), dont really know why or maybe they created a mosnter for oc card :)
according to theinq the 7600GT will have a core clock of 560+ mhz.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29900
and according to some people (dunno if its their fantasy/hope or truth) there will b some sort of castrated 256bit higher end card to compete with the X1800GTO incase that card sells wel.
128bit :(
Yup...expect the same disparity as the X1600 between 3d05 performance and actual gaming performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by cirthix
Perkam
btw there are rumors that 128bit 7300 cards could apear.
this cause the 7300 pcb is the same as the 6200 pcb and there were 128bit 6200 cards.
as the 7300 and 6200 are pin to pin compatible.
although it could ofcourse be that the 7300 GPU isnt able todo 128bit but lets hope it is.
The only reason Nv doesnt want 128-bit 7300 cards is because they'll get too close to 7600 performance...Sort of like how an X1300 pro vs an x1600xt..a lot of times only a 10 to 15 fps difference between the two due to faster ram on the x1600xt...the x1600pro and the x1300pro are even closer !!
Perkam
I'm leaving space in sticky section for xtreme stuff, so 7900 stays, 7600 and 7300 has to go...more on this on xs cebit coverage though...so dont worry :)
Perkam
Actually, In several cases the x1600xt is close to 2x faster than a 1300pro :p: Im tired of waiting, I ordered a 6800 256 from newegg for $99 after ar. Ill prob get a 7600 when it comes outQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Ordered a refurb Powercolor X800GT for the same price :) Lmk when you get it. If mine isn't doa, how bout we compare results :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sabrewolf732
Perkam
For sure :DQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1236816Quote:
Originally Posted by denniszz
her picture looks weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
Nice :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
Perkam
lol perkam :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
LOL 7800GTX 512 is no where to be found... wtf. you can buy a 256mb verson easily. but it's pretty hard to find the 512.
And you would want one why?Quote:
Originally Posted by arisythila
that's what I said till perkam edited it lol
Yup...and Now there all gone ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sabrewolf732
Keep it on topic gentlemen.
Perkam