Solid copper gpu units

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01-19-2006, 06:23 AM
k|ngp|n

Solid copper gpu units

Should have both solid copper SLI/crossfire gpu units finished later today and ready for some nitro :) I have been busting my ass on design and getting them done. It hasnt been easy considering the space you have to work with on the middle card. These units will BARELY fit the expert board fully insulated.
Here is the first look at the raw material and some milling. The bores and final machinework gets done later today:

Raw material (saw cut). Guess what the little one is for :p:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../126327350.jpg

Milling down to final size:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../126327349.jpg

Compare of raw block with milled down material:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../126327347.jpg

More pics later incuding other stages of production and testing of course.
01-19-2006, 06:36 AM
Waus-mod

Great :D

cant wait vince :)
01-19-2006, 11:08 AM
MTP04

Looking good so far:)

Just curious how much does the copper cost you? Just to get a comparison to what I can get it here for in Canada.
01-19-2006, 11:39 AM
payne280

looks good, is the little block for north bridge?
01-19-2006, 12:20 PM
SlackeR

I cant see teh pixx0rz :(
01-19-2006, 12:38 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by payne280

looks good, is the little block for north bridge?

yep.

We were doing the bore today on the first pot and the measurments were slightly off and the tool tore through one of the sides of the block. This stuff happens :( More copper on the way... The material to make these is around 70.00 per unit. The difficutly with getting it right is that the copper block is being held by custom made fixture so it spins slightly off center...making the hole off center. This is by design and I was hoping to get it right first shot.

pic of the bore getting gut on the Mazak:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../126357172.jpg
01-19-2006, 12:47 PM
SlackeR

Teh pixxorz are back :)
I like them, even though they are not that special yet ;)
01-19-2006, 02:45 PM
gloatlizard

some measures plz...btw in my opinion that little one that probably is for the chipset won't do anything good,only adds more parts to insulate and to handle(cryogenic stuff charging)
however solid copper container for a vga will own,i can't imagine the possible scores you'll be able to do
01-19-2006, 03:13 PM
MTP04

Quote:

Originally Posted by payne280

looks good, is the little block for north bridge?

I was thinking its for the memory sticks but I guess not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

The material to make these is around 70.00 per unit.

Okay, thats actually pretty similar to what is costs over here. I thought it might have been cheaper in the states.:(
01-19-2006, 06:05 PM
payne280

yay I guessed right
01-19-2006, 07:02 PM
vapb400

does it have an internal design? or is it just bored copper on the inside?

Either way, good luck man, I'm sure they are gonna own!
01-19-2006, 07:41 PM
afireinside

Mmm they will rock! I want a set...
01-20-2006, 05:24 PM
Cpt Twitchy

I can't wait to see what these blocks look like finished.
01-20-2006, 08:50 PM
Weee

I gotta see the final product =)
01-21-2006, 08:40 AM
MTP04

Let's see some more pictures:stick:, sorry just getting anxious.
01-21-2006, 10:35 AM
afireinside

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTP04

Let's see some more pictures:stick:, sorry just getting anxious.

Read the thread bro ;) Their custom mount for the square copper blocks was off and they drilled through the wall and he has to wait for more copper stock before he can finish it :(
01-21-2006, 10:49 AM
MTP04

Quote:

Originally Posted by afireinside

Read the thread bro ;) Their custom mount for the square copper blocks was off and they drilled through the wall and he has to wait for more copper stock before he can finish it :(

I did read the thread before, like I said I am just anxious to see more!

But surly he didnt ruin both pieces;)
01-21-2006, 10:52 AM
n00b 0f l337

He's not going to cut again if its going to ruin the next now will he?
01-21-2006, 08:12 PM
[XC] moddolicous

Cant wait for some results. Sorry to hear about the tubes though. Are we gonna see some 19k results from you soon (once these are done)?
01-22-2006, 04:01 AM
SlackeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by vapb400

does it have an internal design? or is it just bored copper on the inside?

Either way, good luck man, I'm sure they are gonna own!

I *think* he uses design.. Why would he make it off center if he did not? ;)
01-22-2006, 11:47 AM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTP04

Let's see some more pictures:stick:, sorry just getting anxious.

Exactly what afi said and I decided to change some dimensions on the container to add more mass and have a slightly large bore. The overall design is the same, just will take a little more time now, but I should have something this week. Copper comes in mond or tue.
01-22-2006, 12:39 PM
runmc

Thanks for the entertainment KingPin. I really enjoy the mill shots. I always wonder what kind of machines it takes to do this stuff.;)
01-22-2006, 03:12 PM
[XC] moddolicous

Quote:

Originally Posted by gloatlizard

some measures plz...btw in my opinion that little one that probably is for the chipset won't do anything good,only adds more parts to insulate and to handle(cryogenic stuff charging)
however solid copper container for a vga will own,i can't imagine the possible scores you'll be able to do

Even if the northbridge block adds ~30 more mhz, thats enough to get a higher/faster world record. BTW, you should definetly make one for the ram. The japs have one, and it will probably help some of your utt/bh-5 for an extra 10mhz.
01-22-2006, 07:53 PM
Bloody_Sorcerer

heck, if liquid cooling ram poorly can get 4mhz, some LN2 should work wonders :)
lookin pretty good thus far... i'm interested to see how you plan on milling them up and mounting them.
01-23-2006, 01:21 AM
Kaffebord

A ram container would be so cool :D Imagine 5 containers to fill with LN2. Cpu, nb, 2*gfx and a ram container :D
01-24-2006, 03:41 PM
Waus-mod

Hows it going kp, im want to see them :D
01-24-2006, 03:50 PM
payne280

lets see some more!!!
01-25-2006, 02:22 AM
gloatlizard

Quote:

Originally Posted by moddolicous

Even if the northbridge block adds ~30 more mhz, thats enough to get a higher/faster world record. BTW, you should definetly make one for the ram. The japs have one, and it will probably help some of your utt/bh-5 for an extra 10mhz.

hey man i meant in this case that block is so small that will only add some fkn work, i know that you achieve more mhz that's good for sure, but is better to solder a little tube on that miniblock at least...
02-01-2006, 07:49 AM
k|ngp|n

My Tek-9 solid copper ln2 SLI/crossfire gpu units are done :) Design has been reworked a thousand times over.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../128022820.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../128022819.jpg

Gonna install some bead probes in a bit then start testing. I'm hoping these things take it to another level....if not back to the drawing board. I worked hard on the design and getting as much mass as possible "between the cards".
02-01-2006, 08:05 AM
MTP04

They look real nice!!:slobber:

Tek-9 seems to suit these babies! Let see how they perform.:)
02-01-2006, 08:16 AM
ilkkahy

Those are damn sexy. I also love the universal holddown mechanism :)
02-01-2006, 12:09 PM
gocchin

Those are so sweet. Great job V..... :)
02-01-2006, 12:21 PM
Jort

@ kingpin:

Those containers are a real work of art!
But how are you going to insulate them ?:p:

mhh i'd like to see those baby's in action for sure!

i smell orbcrushing soon :toast:

GO KP:woot:
02-01-2006, 02:33 PM
afireinside

Wow :slobber: Can't wait to see them run!
02-05-2006, 01:34 AM
Tribal84

dam .. nice units you got there..
02-05-2006, 01:44 AM
\Karting_freak

inside pics?
02-05-2006, 02:49 AM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by \carting_freak

inside pics?

:nono: :slapass:

heh..never used those emoticons lol.

So far so good. One of the pots is kicking the bloody hell out of one of my gtx's in 01' 829+/2171. It wasnt that difficult to insulate at all, I just used wrap. Works good enough and still fits in the middle card.

Here is a pic of the temp probes in place thermaled in.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../128312115.jpg
02-05-2006, 03:07 AM
2fink

the finished gpu-units looks great!
is the nb-block ready?
02-05-2006, 03:39 AM
Coroner Kyle

Wow those are gorgeous. Incredible work and I cannot wait to see the NB and then the results.
02-05-2006, 11:55 AM
payne280

wow very nice looking pots, would like to see the nb pot
02-05-2006, 12:07 PM
mnewxcv

how do u work around gpu coldbugs?
02-05-2006, 12:17 PM
n00b 0f l337

Any frosty pics yet?
02-05-2006, 01:48 PM
Waus-mod

Wow... truly a work of art kp... want to see the action :)
02-07-2006, 10:01 AM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

Wow... truly a work of art kp... want to see the action :)

Got both pots insulated now and test-fitted on the expert and everything fits great. As soon as I am done farking around with this dothan in 01', it's back to SLI rig for some more 06,05,and 03. That will be the true test as 01' is the easiest on hardware.
02-07-2006, 11:19 AM
Kaffebord

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Why not fit the holddown on the other side of the unit? So you can insulate all the way down to the card real easy.
But I asume your way of mounting it won't do any problem, most units are mounted that way. But it would be cool to see other ways of mouting a gpu-unit.
Just an idea.
But as always stunning work kinping. And I hope the new unit will give you great number

And can we have a look at the inside when you have testet the unit? :D
02-07-2006, 01:02 PM
k|ngp|n

This was actually my very first idea on how to mount. I was going to cut grooves in the backside of containers for brackets to lock on to. Prolly much more stable mount this way...but there are insulation issues this way as well.
What I thought was my best idea for mounting I may use on the next set I do. It involved a clip style mount.
For this set, I knew the metal bracket would be easy to do and give me the best possible contact/pressure on the die that I would need so I went that route for the first set.
02-07-2006, 02:02 PM
G H Z

These Look very professional, should do some serious damage with those beauties KP :toast:

Any plans for a CF setup.
02-07-2006, 05:30 PM
[XC] moddolicous

Really nice gpu tubes there Kingpin. Cant wait for some serious orb crushing. Do u have 2 good 7800gtx's now (before I think u said you had 1 good and 1 ok one). When is that 4ghz 3d01 run coming?
02-07-2006, 07:42 PM
vapb400

Those look awesome KP, I can't wait to see pics of them mounted up (too some X1900s :)).

I LOVE the name too.
02-10-2006, 09:47 PM
n00b 0f l337

ANy insulation or ice shots yet?
02-11-2006, 08:20 AM
k|ngp|n

Ill post some later tonight n00b.
02-11-2006, 08:50 AM
^don.k's^

wow, really nice, waiting for some action pics :D ( and results too :p: )

congrats on that good job my friend! :toast:
02-11-2006, 08:58 AM
n00b 0f l337

Also did you think about copper peices that bolt to container base area that touch to ram? Something along those lines?
02-11-2006, 11:40 AM
afireinside

That's a lot of extra work for no gain. With dice/ln2 on a gfx the entire thing is already chilled pretty well. If you put cold right on the mem chips the entire card would frost over instantly. Plus it sounds like a machining nightmare.
02-11-2006, 07:52 PM
payne280

would be worth it as when cards are that cold the ram is pretty much frozen
02-12-2006, 02:10 AM
rhino56

nice work. i want one for my x1900xt:)
02-12-2006, 07:49 PM
Son1990

Great job. Cant wait to see the NB block!
02-13-2006, 08:25 AM
speed bump

Nice job should do some real heavy damage.
02-14-2006, 03:51 PM
k|ngp|n

Getting ready for some Heavy Metal SLI tonight:
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../129467029.jpg
02-14-2006, 03:54 PM
n00b 0f l337

Awesome! They look smaller than I thought. No chipset?
02-14-2006, 04:04 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00b 0f l337

Awesome! They look smaller than I thought. No chipset?

They are small, but there is no doubt in my mind that these containers do some serious damage. Got one of my cards clocking through 01' at 843/2226 with one of them. It's all about the design, not the size.
I have been too damn busy to do the chipset cooler yet. I doubt it would fit on this mobo with these card anyways. I want to make it for p4c800/dothan.
02-14-2006, 04:05 PM
n00b 0f l337

You should produce a few alu gpu units and sell them. I know I'd be interested for sure.
02-14-2006, 04:43 PM
Dynasty

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Getting ready for some Heavy Metal SLI tonight:
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../129467029.jpg

Wow, They must perform just as good as they look.

Great stuff K|NGP|N.

Ever thought off mass production on those beautiful containers ? :)
02-14-2006, 05:47 PM
guess2098

i want it too (two lol)

nice! waiting for the reslut to9
02-14-2006, 06:25 PM
vapb400

Wow. That is such a clean setup.

The base of the tubes have armaflex, but what do the top of the tubes have on them? Some white insulation + electrical tape?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put those in production :) or atleast some aluminum ones!
02-14-2006, 11:21 PM
G H Z

That is badass Kingpin!

Pouring three tubes must be fun ;)
02-14-2006, 11:29 PM
Captin Insano

Very Cool stuff Kingpin. Cant wait to see more!!
02-15-2006, 12:51 AM
Waus-mod

The looks are great vince,
Hope they peform as good as they look ;) time to rock the orb!
02-15-2006, 03:32 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by G H Z

That is badass Kingpin!

Pouring three tubes must be fun ;)

It frustrating but fun as hell when it goes right G . Sometimes pour timing is way off and I dont get one damn run off. Othertimes I got it nailed.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1805962
Got a little bump in my 05' score with 20 more core mhz in SLI, but I am running into some problems with ocp and coldboot issues on one card making it a little tough to even break 800mhz SLI. That and I was rusty as hell at pouring three tubes :)..couldnt keep up with it. Need some more practice.
02-15-2006, 03:39 PM
marvt74

You need someone local to help you mate.

/Awaits loads of people posting wanting to help :p:
02-15-2006, 03:49 PM
computerman0416

Maybe you good use a metal funnel to help pour more easily.
02-15-2006, 04:50 PM
Qkjhfhaiguihfma

Quote:

Originally Posted by computerman0416

Maybe you good use a metal funnel to help pour more easily.

no, he needs to be able to have control over each tube. he needs 3 arms, or some more people. that's how team japan does it, they have armies of men ready to pour in 4 hours shifts... :p: :p:
02-15-2006, 04:51 PM
afireinside

Pouring just a CPU seems hard enough after watching crotale pour a 3d01 run in their 50k netburst video. Pouring 3 units AND benching must be crazy, hell I found it a bit hecktic filling two units with dry ice and benching... Major props for just being able to pour them all :toast:

Setup looks sweet BTW :) Ghetto readpoints on the cards. Why no ARC on the FX60 though?
02-15-2006, 07:01 PM
vapb400

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvt74

You need someone local to help you mate.

/Awaits loads of people posting wanting to help :p:

speaking of local

kingpin are you from NV/CA like all the (or so it seems) big time US oc'ers?
02-15-2006, 08:09 PM
Pinnacle

:toast:
02-15-2006, 10:12 PM
Cpt Twitchy

really good lokking there KP. Nice job beingable to get the pou down at once. Very impressive.
02-15-2006, 11:41 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by vapb400

speaking of local

kingpin are you from NV/CA like all the (or so it seems) big time US oc'ers?

I think he's somewhere like Michigan (If I'm right, it doesn't mean I'm stalking you k|ngp|n, it just means I'm very observant :p: )
02-16-2006, 10:48 AM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

I was rusty as hell at pouring three tubes :)..couldnt keep up with it. Need some more practice.

Amazing KP:toast: ....And probly you have to fight cold bug too:)
02-20-2006, 02:27 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

I think he's somewhere like Michigan (If I'm right, it doesn't mean I'm stalking you k|ngp|n, it just means I'm very observant :p: )

Yep...good eye.
I like to bench on my own :)...more of a challenge and I dont have to rely on anyone so I can bench anytime I want.
Containers are really running well now that I am learning their performance curves. Lots of updates in SLI. Although there are some minor things I might change on the next set, I'm very happy with them. For the moment I have no plans of mass producing :(...hope that anwsers some questions.
02-20-2006, 02:45 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Yep...good eye.
I like to bench on my own :)...more of a challenge and I dont have to rely on anyone so I can bench anytime I want.
Containers are really running well now that I am learning their performance curves. Lots of updates in SLI. Although there are some minor things I might change on the next set, I'm very happy with them. For the moment I have no plans of mass producing :(...hope that anwsers some questions.

Almost forgot..
Here is pic from one of my last SLI ln2 sessions. Never mind the fruity looking ovenmitt :):
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../130152116.jpg
02-20-2006, 03:14 PM
Waus-mod

that look is so great.... very pretty setup and i know there will be some awesome results with it soon ;)

Mayb also some more armaflex around the gpu units? not that these frozen arent ugly :D
02-20-2006, 03:18 PM
GoriLLakoS

Nice and clean setup Kingpin!!!!

Your vga pots are beasts...:D

I am coming behind you....i am still designing my solid gpu pots...:D
02-20-2006, 03:28 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoriLLakoS

Nice and clean setup Kingpin!!!!

Your vga pots are beasts...:D

I am coming behind you....i am still designing my solid gpu pots...:D

thanx waus..

@ gorillakos..If your gpu pots perform like your "gorillapot" did, the orb is in trouble :) :toast: Good luck with them for you and all of the hellas crew.
02-23-2006, 06:57 AM
T_M

Vince, who does your voltmods on the DFI?
02-23-2006, 07:49 AM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_M

Vince, who does your voltmods on the DFI?

hey T_M,

I have never modded a dfi nf4 board. Not really needed to mod anything on them. I saw a post about some modding vdd or chipset but I haven't done it.
02-24-2006, 06:31 AM
zbogorgon

if it is not a secret, what are dimensions?
02-26-2006, 03:21 AM
Kizz

Nice job, those are definitely works of art :eek:
02-26-2006, 03:51 AM
XenatR

looks amazing!

benchmark benchmark benchmark! ^_^
03-08-2006, 11:44 AM
harleybro

Awesome looking tubes :toast: definately did turn out to be beasts. Sry bout checking into them so late. :slap:
03-09-2006, 12:43 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by harleybro

Awesome looking tubes :toast: definately did turn out to be beasts. Sry bout checking into them so late. :slap:

Hey man..good to see you around again. The gpu pots have insane
performance J. My slowest card is what held me back a little in SLI
820/2186 SLI though 05.
818/2178 through 06.
Single card 01' on my best xfx 7800tx was 842/2240 :)
Scores are all published.
I heard you were doing your own cpu pot?
03-13-2006, 04:50 AM
harleybro

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Hey man..good to see you around again. The gpu pots have insane
performance J. My slowest card is what held me back a little in SLI
820/2186 SLI though 05.
818/2178 through 06.
Single card 01' on my best xfx 7800tx was 842/2240 :)
Scores are all published.
I heard you were doing your own cpu pot?

Sweet and sick scores! Yup own pot will be in the works have a few ideas I want to try. :woot:
04-18-2006, 06:07 PM
-aDaM^

very nice :toast:
04-18-2006, 10:08 PM
Extera

are there any score's posted I missed (in an other tread)

your setup looks realy awesome! Your a true king putting a sli setup under LN2
04-20-2006, 04:55 AM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extera

are there any score's posted I missed (in an other tread)

your setup looks realy awesome! Your a true king putting a sli setup under LN2

Back from oblivion again :).
My tek9 units have taken just about every 7800gtx - 7900gtx WR SLI and single card. There have been alot of nice scores with them. Here is most recent 7900gtx stuff:
single and SLI 7900gtx
more 3d 03' work
am3
06-10-2006, 12:57 AM
Otternase

:toast: :toast: :clap:
06-10-2006, 08:03 PM
luf1c3r

Good work k|ngp|n :D
06-19-2006, 12:05 AM
ineedaname

Great job i'm just amazed.

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