They are gone from Crucials web site and they just told me that only RMA replacement supplies will be available of the 2 gig sets or 1 gig sticks..
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They are gone from Crucials web site and they just told me that only RMA replacement supplies will be available of the 2 gig sets or 1 gig sticks..
Jesus Christ that's bad news.. I was under the impression that they fixed them, or at least well on their way, this makes me believe that they haven't fixed them and my new sticks are going to die soon.
I think I'll call newegg and get my HZ changed to replacement instead of refund..
any links to anything official for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Who cares? They told xgman that directly..... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by palehorse
Wow. I just RMA'd my Mushkin Redlines to Newegg to only get a refund b/c they're supposed to be discontinued. Now, I'm certain the Ballistix I'm currently using will die.
that's most interesting. i'll be willing to bet that our constant RMA'ing has finally driven them insane.
the part i don't get.. why not switch to a new ic. 5b D isn't the only chip micron makes that they can put in the 1gb sticks ;)
What to do, what to do... I can return and get a refund, or return and get another set. Mine were bad out of the box.
It is such a bummer, when the memory works, it rocks.
Edit: Decided to go for a refund. I need a stable computer most importantly.
WTF! They should provide some viable alternatives to us. I'm ready for another RMA, should I wait and get a refund from Newegg?
My ballistix are crapping out. I was actually expecting them to fix whatever problem it is they are having, and I guess they did... stop making them!
I wonder if this is for the time being, until a better IC comes along from Micron, or if they are out of the game for good.
More importantly, will they give me a refund, or will I get punk'd?
Ohh man, i just got these from RMA last month and so far they rock..But for how long? And then what, RMA after RMA? This bad news :(
To be honest it doenst surprise me. They are a mass market generic memory maker who decided to dip their toe into the enthuasiast market. Hasnt worked out for them so saying goodbye.
heh, i'd venture that having the fastest 1gb ddr sticks in the market is a far cry from not working out ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by goreblast
lood, i'm hoping this is just an intermission. there's no reason for it not to be
its too bad, because all ive heard is good things (in terms of overclocking) about the ones that DO WORK.
When something seems too good to be true, it probably is lol.
Dont they use these chips in some of their value series? Also, Some of Mushies 2gig value sticks use these chips i think in PC3200 flavor. I hope they come out with something else that rocks and nowhere near as fragile. Anyways, I guess this is what they call the curse of the Rambus.
So just to confirm both L503 (Tracers) and Z503
I just got mine last week. I guess I should of gone with OCZ's EB, but they are never in stock.
Crucial is too large and capable to just get out of the 2g sdram. Im thinking that they will release some updated version under a different name or something. On the other hand, since it seems Sdram is on its way out with AMD going for ddram with their new cpu's that they really will just discontinue it. Ouch, I havent even fired mine up yet :(
Not what I wanted to hear :( I've got a set headed my way as we speak. :mad: :slap: :slapass:
i fail to see the difference it makes, as they're keeping some for RMA's (hopefully enough.. hahaha) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMeatFrog
Exactly what I was thinking and hopefully it's not a batch of really crappy ones because if they are I should just flush these down the toilet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Got mine today good for 300mhz :smile:
Post your settings. I would like to see. I was having trouble around 275.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferry82
SDR-SDRAM ((Single Data Rate) Synchoronous Dynamic Random Access Memory) was dumped ages ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
AMD will "soon" move from DDR1-SDRAM to DDR2-SDRAM (Double Data Rate-Synchoronous Dynamic Random Access Memory).
Its always like that at first.
They are stable for a month or two then crap out.
Mine are no longer 3d stable at anything above 240!
I would RMA, but whats the point right now unless they are going to refund me the full purchase price that I paid ($390 when they came out)?
I should ask the crucial guy on dfi-street.
Who wants to have RAM that they believe will crap out in a month? Then have to wait for RMA, and repeat..Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
That's exactly why I just called newegg and got my HZ changed to a replacement.. right at the last minute too, they arrived a few hours after my call :) Now to sell these ballistix..
yes, but the fact that they won't be sold shouldn't effect that process ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I say after 3 RMAs I should be entitled to a real solution. Such a waste of time and money to keep RMAing, sticks die, RMA, sticks die, etc...
I had two sets die....sold the third set I got back without even touching them. Smart move, eh?
I don't think that this is a temporary thing either guys...DDR is on its way out of the high-end market in the coming months and Micron probably doesn't want to spend the money appeasing a small part of the market that would be oh-so-cautious after TWO out of three high-end 2GB sets that aren't problem free (their own 5B -D and Infineon's CE die).
Rest assured, UCCC is getting better and NO ONE has had a problem yet.
Yes smart move, I think I will do the same if mine die that many times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
I don't blame Micron either, they've got be gearing up for AMD's move to DDR2. AMD has got a large following and a lot of them are OC'ers so put the money in the future.
What companies are using UCCC right now?
BAH!! Was just looking to buy some. Guess i'll get some mushkin or UCCC
I "broke" this story yesterday. No offical links, just go to the web site. No 1 GB PC4000 listed, ask thier "experts" they will confirm.Quote:
Originally Posted by palehorse
i'd pick be/ce over uccc probably.
high speed be/ce costs almost 50% more for minimal performance gain. Not worth it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Not always. I have 2 pair running fine...1 set on 3 months, and the other on a little over 4 months. They haven't degraded a single mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
The set I bought in the summer did die and I rma'd them in late Sept.
Although I don't like the odd's, and I don't suggest them to folks, they are hit n miss. Not ALL sticks die. Just too many though. Its a shame.
About freaking time they discontinue this crap ram. I had two sets die on me since July. Just last week I smartened up and bought some GSKILL instead.
I was never so pissed with ram as I was with the Ballistix. Spent $178 a stick for it back in July when it came out... Man did I get screwed reselling my RMAed sticks.
Even if Crucial has stopped producing these sticks, I have a feeling it won't be the last we see of the IC's ;)
That wouldn't be so bad if the next batch of ICs were fixed of this rediculous problem!
Ram should not just decay in performace at its rated settings! There's obviously something being done wrong in the manufacturing of this junk.
almost what i was trying to say.. i think it's more that we won't see any more ballistix with the current ic, but something new. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Do we want to see the ICs again? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
No probl. m8s, since there are the New TeamGroup with Micron chips! And they are already available here in Italy (and cheaper too :P)! :D
TEAM GROUP DDR500 PC4000 2Gb. KIT 2*1GB. DIMM (CHIP MICRON 5B)
TIMINGS = 3-3-3-8
279€ (Ballistix were around 340€)
wow, they're available in italy?! not fair, it's still pretty hard to get them in the states. good stuff though. here's a quick preview, though i'm waiting to do a real review till my new cpu shows up ;) (2T explains why i wait, my 146's memory controller has a hard cap at 306mhz, with 4 different sets of ram)
http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_149.png
and a validation i took later with an updated verison of cpu-z to show the mfg ;)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=64950
and yes, it's 3d stable from what i can tell :toast:
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Originally Posted by thinkingbear
yes you did. So props to thinkingbear. When I called about my RMA that came in yesterday, I asked about why, and they told me that they had kept some asside for RMA's and that they were moving on to concentrate on DDR2. I am sure the constant rma'ing contributed to the removal, and even though the rep told me they won't be back, I would not be at all surprised to see them come back at some point because there are an awefull lot of DDR1 customers still out there. the RMA kit I git from them yesterday seemed like a pretty fresh batch in any case. And yes it is all 1 gig sticks or 2 gis sets in the balistix line.
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Originally Posted by Lood007
Not all sets are having this decaying problem.
Agreed, but it is still a big enough problem for them to offer a suitable solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
True... but its definetely bad enough to cease making them. All four of the sticks I owned died on me. All within 2-3 months from aquiring them.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Do we know "officially" why they quit making them or are we just speculating right now?
I heard, "we are trying to focus on DDR2" earlier, but anyone know the truth or is it a shift of focus?
depends on how much faith you put in the reps ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Coroner Kyle
Quote:
Hi Mark-
With the market adopting DDR2 as the new standard, we're shifting our focus away from DDR. With higher speed grades and lower power consumption than DDR, I'm sure you'd agree it's definitely a more cost-effective solution. And now with AMD talking about finally making the switch, DDR2 is about to take center stage.
We're going to slowly phase out some of our high-speed DDR products, starting with PC4000. We'll always support the old DDR standard, but with a slimmer range of products.
DDR2 :rolleyes: .....how convenient..lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Agreed. That is just too much money left out on the table. I bet right now execs at OCZ, G. Skill, Mushkin, and all the rest with 1BG DDR500 modules are doing somersaults and cart wheels in their respective hallway$Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
exactly, but more likely yield issues and returns scared them away from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Well after 2 pairs crapped out on me I sold them after my RMA came back.
Hope they will bring out something better this time around...
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Originally Posted by goreblast
i thought they had excellent performing DDR2...
Isnt samsung mass-er market than micron?
One question, if Team's new 2gb kit is also a micron, wouldn't it crap out like the rest of ballistix?
different IC though. it seems that only the 5b D's are having the hit or miss reliabilityQuote:
Originally Posted by jc2mm2
i guess time will tell though, i've been messing with these teamgroup sticks for.. almost a month now, without any issues (sorry for being so damn slow kev :p: )
Damnit, and I just bought these tracers ;)
They are older though, way before the bad batch. So hopefully I don't need to RMA them
So would it be a bad idea to buy a set from the remaining stock newegg has?
Dang and I just finished up saving for these -_-
I don't think it is a bad idea, in fact I managed to snag a pair direct off the Crucial site the day after they went out of stock (had a kit in my shopping cart, processed the order and it went through, arrive today :)). I figured the worst that could happen is they die like the rest and either 1) there is no replacement so I get my $$$ back, or 2) there is a new "fixed" replacement available then and I get back one of those kits. I can't say for sure if Newegg would do the same as I read on their site that in event replacements are not available they will contact you to "discuss options", maybe worse case you get credit towards another 2GB kit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibu
I own a pair of 1 gig Ballistix PC4000. How can i determine what model i have?
the stickers should end in z503 if theyre these "dodgy" sticks (-5B D)
I had a 1gb kit of z503s :rolleyes:
they died in about 2 weeks, at the time I had no idea evryone elses was dieing too.
had to argue tons to get z505's..
Thank you. Z505 are OK? I want to OC my sistem and i'm afraid...
to be honest if you have the bad ballistix set then they are bound to die in the end even if you leave them at stock settingsQuote:
Originally Posted by quantum
The batch of CL1115X.XX 56278 seem to be the bad batch
Bad news my friends... :mad: I got Z503's. Batch: CL1115T.8D PN: 56278 . I'll try to do something about it... Thanks all for opening my eyes...
that's everything made in 2005 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
Just keep em actively cooled with low volts and you should be fine. Lucky for me I got a pair from Week 4 :PQuote:
Originally Posted by quantum
I bought them to OC my system ! I can't do that with low volts... Should i contact Micron?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
my 2nd ballistix stick, fresh from rma, exactly the same problem as before, 2d stable @ 280 3-3-3-8 2.6vimm (bit lower this time), pretty immediate crash in cs:s and UT2004.
Is there anything else that can touch 280mhz speeds tho?
280HTT 3-3-3-8 2.65V ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum
Gota test still though
try ut2004 or cs:s, if they crap out, join the gang, if they dont, run away so i cant track you down and nick em :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
Help me God to replace them !. Wich one is best : Mushkin Redline XP4000 or Corsair TwinX 4000PT ?
Haven't tested 3D but I did memtest overnight, got 21 errors, it doesn't seem to like higher than 2.65 lol, or lower for that matterQuote:
Originally Posted by shuRe
Edit: Since I was getting errors I bumped my voltage up, even thought it was 3D stable ;), now its 3-3-3-8 280HTT 2.85vdimm
Just played about 30-60 min of source :P
Spoke to Crucial and sent em a nasty email.
They offered fair market value to me for the 2GB kit.
I bought them for $400 and they want to offer me $170... only for use at the Crucial Store!
Terrible resolution to the issue, if you ask me.
That's BULL if you ask me. Just curious, what batch do you have? I hope they come out with some replacement or something... I'm glad mine aren't the bad batch and run at 275 with 2.65v lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
What voltage (2.6V?) and settings (3-4-4-8 @ 250mhz?) do I set my Ballistix to when testing if they are eligible for RMA? Are those right?
Batch: CL1115W.VXQuote:
Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
$170?? Fair?
I'd like some links where I can get some Ballistix for that price.
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Originally Posted by Lood007
Yeah, exactly what i was thinking.
Sorry to hear, even I would buy them at only $170, maybe they think you only have 2x512 Jk ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
Everything right except the voltage, it's 2.8v. Yes, the voltage everyone say to stay away from is the rated voltage. Curious ahQuote:
Originally Posted by truthseeker
So who's gonna fill the 2Gb DDR600 niche?
UCCC rev. D... hopefully. :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=85677
Waiting for something from OCZ.,,
teamgroup:Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaWreck
http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_149.png
waiting on a new mobo before i get you guys the full report. yell at steve to hurry up ;)
I'll get that to you soon - I promise. I've just been real busy lately. BTW, if you think that's a nice 2gb Kit from TEAM, wait till you see what's in the horizon ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
As I know the only company still has Micron 5b-? left is TEamGroup
Their 5b-f will dominate all.
When will 5B-F be out, and where?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
hmmm, this could be interesting... must be a new ic ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Damn.. I really wanted a 2gb set. I've been itchin to blow some money.
I got a new 2Gb kit coming to me in the mail b/c of RMA. I had to call and :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: at Crucial twice, but I finally got someone competant enough to look up their next shipment of the 5B-D Dimms. I am gonna ebay that shiat tho once it comes in. Unless someone wants to buy it off me. I am not even going to open up the box.
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Originally Posted by ozzimark
Gonna need a new section for the database, it's gonna be huge once these are released. ;)
i'm hoping to be on the top once steve's board gets to me :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
I have a score with my ballistix saved away. Won't show it until I can get a chip with a good memory controller again to reproduce it. My ballistix are pretty awesome... ;)
yeah.. even my 512mb sticks can't do 300mhz with 2.7v :( :p:
When is Teamgroup going to be carried in the US?
Maybe I'll get to challenge those sticks, I was about to sell a pair that does 290 with 2.6v :eek: Obviously I decided to keep them though and sell the gskill hz insteadQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
It's commin....eventually :rolleyes: I didn't make closing today cuz I'm an idiot for not realizing what time my local P.O. closes....Starting with today, I'm imposing a $5 penalty for everyday I'm late. That should get my ass in gear....Hopefully I won't end up paying you to take my board......:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
hahahaha :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
i just hope it's not dead, but time will tell ;)
atm, i can be 3rd, but at 2T:slap:
Well, I've been part of the "gang" for about 6 months now, and I'm on my third set. This time I got a set of CL111QG7X 63240 BL12864Z503.16TD1. Before I stick 'em in my mobo, anyone have any suggestions on how to get them to survive longer than 2-3 months?
I plan on running 250 1:1 with auto timings and 2.8V in orange slots with 704-2β BIOS. Any suggetions on BIOS, mem voltage, slot choice or timings?
thanks!
Want them to last? Put them in a drawer.
EDIT: I really don't think there's a way to prevent death to these....it seems random (i.e., nothing you can do can cause it or prevent it and it's an unpredictable event in terms of batch, time used, etc.)....I had a set die being pushed to the max and a set die at 250 3-4-4 2.75V....but if I had to guess, it's actually based off of use patterns.
(i.e., don't continually stress them with taxing usage and they'll live for a bit longer...then again, why else would you need 2GB of fast DDR?)
funny you say that...been hesitant to put them in my machine :(