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OCZ hopes to make phase-change a real choice for more buyers with the introduction of a $299 MSRP Phase Change cooling system. Shipments should begin in about 30 days, and OCZ tells us that once sales volume picks up, they are hopeful that prices can drop even further to the $200 range.
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/...spx?i=2669&p=2Quote:
The demo unit was reporting -25 to -27C driving an AMD FX57 processor at 3.2 GHz.
:woot:
Lets Wait for the official release :D
phasechange or x1900xtx.....
Hmm i don't know about that. I dont think its going to hold a load with high vcore. Put simply fx 57 can get to 3.2 gig at almost stock vcore. thus there is prolly no load on the unit. crank the volts to 1.7 vcore and now your prolly at +10C. My mach 1 reads out -21 evap temps loaded with an x2 @ 3.0 gig w/1.65v cpu temps at 0C. I'm curious to see what the cooling watts are that its capable of.
I'm worried about the noise... I want a near silent system, unless I'm gaming, then it can be louder.
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Originally Posted by HKPolice
theres like a 15 page thread on this
That seems a cheap low-end phase change unit.:stick:
Excelent price!!!
If it´s not too noisy it´ll be a killer ;)
@ that price i dont care if it sounds like a jet engine i want sub zero @ low cost
Chilly1 mentioned a couple times that it's a strong and silent machine, so I wonder in how many years will this reach Europe. Me wants.
to me im working on my own phase changer right now, but for the money this might be great for my videocard.
I definatly think this has potential. I imagine it would be pretty quiet, and even if it barely holds sub zero under a load, who cares? 300 bucks is a bit less than i spent on the watercooling listed in my sig. and it gets me temps a little above ambient. I guess once this comes out we'll really be able to see what its capable of in the hands of "REAL" enthusiests. If its decent, i plan on putting one on a 950 as soon as i can buy it, a new mobo, ram, and vid card. If 5Ghz has been hit on these presler dual cores on air, and 6.1 on SS Vapo, 5.5+ should be doable even if this unit DOES turn out to be low end.
I'm starting to warmup to it....at first I was doubting the load it could handle, but I guess it'll probably be tuned for higher loads and sacrifice a few C with lower loads.
Can anyone say regass?
Why must we have 3 threads on this one product?
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Originally Posted by speed bump
there's a lot of speculation that its already gonna be gassed with one of the secret chilly1 blends. there's one pic out there that shows the compressor with an R134a sticker on it. Just b/c the compressor is rated for 134a doesnt mean thats what they are running. ;)
Given the info and load temps posted by Tony already, it is almost certainly running a special blend already, b/c that compressor(1/6hp) should not be capable of the preliminary results with something like R134 in it.
EDIT: @ Maxxx - I dont know. I've posted links back to the big thread in the phase forum on each of the other threads on it, and they just keep giong. Haven't seen perkam around much lately, and lawlessness and anarchy as taking hold in the news section as a result! ;)
Well I can definitely see good things coming out of this (besides subzero temps :slap: ). This will encourage more manufacturers to produce cheap consumer phase cooling units and ultimately take over water cooling.
Maybe thats going a bit too far... :stick:
But well done OCZ I say :)
I personally avoided water cooling solutions because of the amount of hassle required to set one up and to me it wasn't worth it (gotta get the tubes, pump, rad, fans, then you gotta do the 24 hour leak test, then you need some water blocks then you gotta change the rad if it starts leaking then you have to put up with crappy temps that only help your OC slightly...). Now that I can get affordable phase cooling without breaking the bank or my computer... I'd dig it.
Well heck for the price of a midrange watercooling kit, phase!
Only thing is condensation argh.
A water cooling loop for about the same money will cool more then 1 thing.(not just a CPU) I just cant see this thing yeilding any great temp drops cause of volume and compressor size. Like earlier stated.. A FX57 will do 3.2ghz on water and some air at almost stock Vcore. so if you should have to give it some volts..hmmm just not sure. Will be interesting to see what it does. but I am definitly sure it will not operate in the Xtreme Overclocking machine of course.
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Originally Posted by STEvil
How bout phasechange on x1900xt...:slobber:
How about two CryoZ and two X1900XTX :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by Plywood99
This thing might be a real blow for the water guys.....hmmmmmm ambient temps with a wc set-up or waaay sub zero for the same $300....not too hard to decide.
As a hardcore watercooler, I must say, that if this drops down to 200 dollars, I will no longer be cooling my cpu with water.. it will be a GPU only afair.
Philly... A blow.. hardly. Most of us watercoolers would be using phase if it wasnt for the fact that phase is so dam expensive.
The only reason that some watercoolers might not switch over is the condesnation and possibly portability isssue. I know quite a few users on XS who had a vapo and went back to water as they go to lans alot and the vapo was a bit much to lug around.
In any case, I'm not bashing the CryoZ, and I do infact want one, and will most likely buy one myself if the price gets low enough.
people lug watercoolers to lans?
jeeesh, i dont like carrying my aluminum case anywhere, couldnt imagine somene with a steel case and watercooling. and im a big guy... cant imagine what some of the little geeks must do.
Oh you have no idea.. I had a full STEEL 1mm thick tower case from the mid 90's and this thing weighed 25lbs empty. I had it filled with an Iwaki pump that weighed 10 pounds alone, plus half a gallon of water and loaded with other junk.. it was 60+ lbs easy.
BUT with the watercooling systems available today, quite frankly the increase in weight over a aircooled system is minimal. Infact a air cooled system in a mid tower steel case can weigh about the same as a watercooled system in an aluminum mid tower. I recently designed a system for someone here on XS that would add only a minimal amount of weight to the case. so minimal infact that unless you didnt see the radiator you wouldnt know it was watercooled.
I want one......Hopefully prices will be similar here in the UK. Can some one tell me please how much noise these sort of things make
Phase for Home use.. Air for Lan use.. and at that Price I might have to buy two.. ONe for the CPU and the other for the GPU
pffft, 60lb's lol. Took two 24" widescreen CRT's (Sun T-Rex) and a 22" flat (Samsung Syncmaster 2200NF) to a lan once... and my case (measured at 60lb's with no water cooling gear, all air).Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
Have a new case now (Jencube ;) ) and a new LCD... :stick:
LMAO stevil.. thats insane..
Oh ya.. I took a 60" CRT with me to a lan before. and my uranium case! ;)
Well if there is a parking slot in the LANParty location and of course you drive, there is no much problem. At least here in Chile they have supermarket carts to "drive" your equipment to your tables.
Or you can do what I do.. Take a GOOD LAPTOP.. it isn't even 20lbs.. Nothing to wear one down..
GOOD LAPTOP = $$$$$ which most of us dont have.
If I had the money I would buid a Turion or Dothan (although at this poitn I would wait for Yonah or AMD's Dual core mobile) laptop that was a 17" WideScreen with the 7800go and a GB of ram.. would be nice.
But since I dont have 4k of disposable income to spend on a sweet laptop, I would drag my parts bucket of a PC to a lanparty. BUT I dont go to lanparties so its not an issue.
yeah, I think thats a good description for a lot of us around here. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
hehe:) yeah is it just me or is everybodies PC a constant work in progress, i cant remember the last time it was all inside the case...Quote:
Originally Posted by trakslacker
/Ed
I have enough time lugging my computer to lans, I've gained a ton of weight from when I was in an alu case, but I have to comprimise somewhere and I ditched the old CRT when I am replacing when I get my LCD today :)
Actually, if this unit would fit, maybe get 3 of them while I am at it: one for CPU, GPU, SBU (ok fine, its not SBU, but I thought I'd come up with something new that rythms :p: ). Imagine taking that to a lan. It wouldn't be a computer anymore, it would be your freezer. Don't forget to keep some drinks in there too.
So is the OCZ phase change available in Europa ( Germany ) yet ?
[QUOTE=ahmad] (ok fine, its not SBU, but I thought I'd come up with something new that rythms :p:[QUOTE]
SBU = south bridge unit?
/Ed
Yeah thats what I was indicating, but its really called a south bridge (unit doesn't apply because its non-removable I think).
Very good unit for mosfet's or northbridge.... OCZ sux :(
lol. thats the only thing with phase, a pita for taking comp places.
wow ppl wld laugh at me if i brought my :banana::banana::banana::banana: to a lan.
19" Samsung Flat Screen CRT -- ~50 LBS (SyncMaster 997MB)
my case, which is the Thermaltake XASER III V2000A Supertower, is roughly 20" deep, and 20" tall....weighs about another ~45-50 lbs, all air (cmon, four hdd's, 2 opticals, etc)
yea, id get laughed at lol
same case as yours same weight
i had a 17" crt but now i have 24" lcd and i go to lans
Answer to mobile phase problems solved... Just have chilly retrofit it in to a V2000 or a U2-UFO w/ casters and roll it to your LAN events :D
That's what I plan on doing with mine, hehe. It's also nice to be able to take a phased rig to LAN's and then have all the kiddies surround ur setup in sheer amazement having no clue what most of the extreme cooling parts in your computer do. Mmmm, luv pwnin dem noobs :)
yea nice ;)
:welcome: khanem :toast:
thanks mate
you guys are nuts!
Availability in European market and price? I hope not more than 299€ :D