FX-60: 3DMark05@3.3G

I got a FX-60 yesterday, CCB2E 0548SPMW.
<img src="http://222.151.185.181/c-board/file/FX-60_CCB2E_0548SPMW.jpg" />

By water-cooling, 3DMark ran completely upto 3.1GHz@Vcore=1.665V,
and by LN2-cooling, it can run upto 3.3GHz and got 3DMark05: 17564 score.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1682242
<img src="http://222.151.185.181/c-board/file/3DM05_17564_FX-60_3.35G.png" />
Vgpu&Vmem modded 7800GTX512(SLI)@695MHz/1.93GHz by water-cooling
using ForceWare-83.10 driver.

My FX-60 has cold-bug, so I kept temperature of copper container at arround -60 deg(C).
I need to find more suitable temperature and Vcore...these results are my first, one-night trial.

More details and screenshots are here:
http://222.151.185.181/c-board/c-boa...ne;no=4143;id=
http://222.151.185.181/c-board/c-boa...ne;no=4144;id=
...sorry in Japanese, as usual;)

wow, very nice scores, to bad about that cold bug

nice results. Cheers

where did your coldbug kick in at...how cold can you go at 260 HTT?

nice job kyosen! I'm glad to see you posting over here, maybe we can pick up a few things ;)

awful nice score. Sucks about the coldbug, though. :(

it takes ln2 for 3.3g? :(
i think i was expecting better things from this...say 3.5

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Originally Posted by Aphex_Tom_9

it takes ln2 for 3.3g? :(
i think i was expecting better things from this...say 3.5

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one stepping and one run...

Very nice! :toast:

Not far from WR.
Anyway congrats man.

Nice chips there Kyosen San:toast:

Any workaround the cold bug?

That cold-bug is rubbish; only 200MHz of improvement under LN2... it suxx :(
Anyway, congrats for the work!

Cold bug or not I'm sure some of these chips would really benefit from dropping the top :cool:

Nice runs Kyosen, thanks for sharing your results :)

Nice job :)

Hmm, Japanese into 3Dmark? :) Only fought you guys did SPI / PiFast / suicideshot etc.

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Originally Posted by before

That cold-bug is rubbish; only 200MHz of improvement under LN2... it suxx :(
Anyway, congrats for the work!

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the ln2 is not important here as he was only trying to maintain a temp of -60

little more then a single phase

Not to mention it's a dual core chip and that's a 500 mhz overclock on the high end part. Not bad at all!

#15

I think a single phasechange will bow ;)
My freinds vapo LS @ +8 deg C on CPU with a FX55 at 3570, and a dualcore makes even more heat I assume :S

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

#15

I think a single phasechange will bow ;)
My freinds vapo LS @ +8 deg C on CPU with a FX55 at 3570, and a dualcore makes even more heat I assume :S

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a 55 claw would have to be at 1.84v to reach that 3570 so heat output would most likely be higher on the 55

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

Hmm, Japanese into 3Dmark? :) Only fought you guys did SPI / PiFast / suicideshot etc.

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Return of Holicho ! :D

Regards

Andy

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Originally Posted by kyosen

My FX-60 has cold-bug, so I kept temperature of copper container at arround -60 deg(C).
I need to find more suitable temperature and Vcore...these results are my first, one-night trial.

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Originally Posted by bazx

the ln2 is not important here as he was only trying to maintain a temp of -60

little more then a single phase

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@bazx
You're right; but it was because of cold-bug; so my post made sense :)

Hi Kyosen,

Try to lower FSB and raise the multiplier for higher clockspeeds. I was able to run FX-60 @ 3466 MHz when I used 17 x 204 MHz settings (Dry ice cooling).

im jealous of all your guys hardware, im curious to what the WR is for 3d05 and with what hardware any info on it. Kyosen nice job, you could always sell that FX-60 on ebay and try your luck with another.

Not bad, but not good.

Coldbug sucks.:(

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Originally Posted by Fixxxer

Not bad, but not good.

Coldbug sucks.:(

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yep, its look like that all the fx60 have that :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Fixxxer

Not bad, but not good.

Coldbug sucks.:(

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maybe its a trick of amd, so that the heavy overclockers need to buy some more cpu's untill they found one without coldbug :confused:

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Originally Posted by GoThr3k

maybe its a trick of amd, so that the heavy overclockers need to buy some more cpu's untill they found one without coldbug :confused:

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Or try another brand :D

at this rate amd will be making chips that dont overclock at all

there ant much point in an unlocked multi if it only dose 3.3

its only @ 1.66V dudes, it wil get 3.5 stable for benche ~FX-57 at 3.8

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Originally Posted by Daveb2012

im curious to what the WR is for 3d05 and with what hardware any info on it. Kyosen nice job, you could always sell that FX-60 on ebay and try your luck with another.

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18,810 by K|ngp|n

This is same Toledo core as other X2's, but with CCB2E.

I believe Jason did 3.387 with an X2 4800 with no cold bug. ;)

I've seen 3520MHz (16x220) to pass 3DMark05 at -40C and 1.62V.. :)

got any links:D

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Originally Posted by macci

I've seen 3520MHz (16x220) to pass 3DMark05 at -40C and 1.62V.. :)

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sounds sweet :slobber:

Very nice results, kyosen :up:

I'm looking forward to your second attempt with this setup...

@macci,

Can you show us those results you've seen, please? ;)

Looks good Kyosen! I hope with more time you can figure out your optimal temps and vcore and if you need to run something like SP2004 to load the CPU and hit 3.5+.

Jason is up around 3.5ghz as well, with like 1.75vcore and no cold bug. He should be able to do 3.5 3d easily once he gets a copper cooler and kicks the volts up. AMD clocking is all about how lucky you are with the cold bug on your chip, sadly :( For all we know Kyosen could be at 3.6ghz 3d if he bought another FX60 and got lucky with a cold bug around -100c or lower.

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Originally Posted by Dynasty

18,810 by K|ngp|n

This is same Toledo core as other X2's, but with CCB2E.

I believe Jason did 3.387 with an X2 4800 with no cold bug. ;)

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From what I've noticed all cores with a stepping taht ends 2E are not cold friendly.

Very good Job Kyosen

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Originally Posted by bazx

at this rate amd will be making chips that dont overclock at all

there ant much point in an unlocked multi if it only dose 3.3

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even though it does a 500mhz oc with just water? that's hardly something to be sad about, being over 3ghz on a toledo

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

@macci,

Can you show us those results you've seen, please? ;)

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Add me to the interested list :p:

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

even though it does a 500mhz oc with just water? that's hardly something to be sad about, being over 3ghz on a toledo

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you have got to be jk right

$1400 bucks and only 500mhz

Hehehe....this is the little brother of OPB's monster 4600+. His cpu and this one are the only 2 x2's I've ever seen that have been able to withstand -100C temps without any problems at all:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3259/98c4xc1ek.jpg

stephen>Who owns that CPU? -98C software reading seems a bit off...

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Originally Posted by afireinside

stephen>Who owns that CPU? -98C software reading seems a bit off...

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why would you say that? Smartguardian agrees with the temps......This is the work of Mikeguava and a lot of LN2 ;)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3008/908tj.jpg

What stepping stephen?

That is cold..-90 does correspond to 166 in SG. exactly

From the one and only Jason 'MickeyMouse'

MickeyMouse takes WR A64 Dualcore 'Consecutive' 8m/8m Run!

Why run Super Pi with a Dualcore cpu if you don't do it right.
Two cores means 2 seperate Super Pi's need to be run at the same time to fully load the cpu.

Dfi Sli-D, rev. AB0, bios 623-3
UCCC Corsair 1024x2 @3-3-3-5-7-12-1t
4800+ @1.5v- 1.61v vcore
Copper 3in ExtremeMousepot cooling with dryice

http://jason57.iwarp.com/4800/runb.JPG
http://jason57.iwarp.com/4800/doneb.JPG

http://jason57.iwarp.com/4800/34444.JPG
http://jason57.iwarp.com/4800/34444d.JPG

Very nice. I will be getting my FX60 on Friday or Saturday....hope to get a good stepping that will allow 3-3.1ghz on water. Then will be trying it on a modded LS (15-20c colder than stock vapo LS)

wow this fx really sucks ...... my 170 does ~ 2920 3m stable with wc & hs

Do you think fx60 can handle -20C or -30C for 24/7 use

kyosen, why did you run 3DMark with CPU tests disabled?

Jesus, your vid cards are insane.

When was the FX60 launched?

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Originally Posted by high5

kyosen, why did you run 3DMark with CPU tests disabled?

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They aren't needed to produce a score so no one runs them.

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Originally Posted by afireinside

They aren't needed to produce a score so no one runs them.

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i know they're not needed scoring-wise... no one runs them? i wouldn't agree.

showing 3DMark score w/o CPU tests as a proof of stability is IMHO pointless since they are the hardest to pass.

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Originally Posted by high5

i know they're not needed scoring-wise... no one runs them? i wouldn't agree.

showing 3DMark score w/o CPU tests as a proof of stability is IMHO pointless since they are the hardest to pass.

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Wow this is xtremesystems. It's about running the fastest you can and scoring higher than anyone else. Not how stable the CPU tests are. If you care about stability go run prime or just play games.

nice FX60, i took out my IHS few weeks before... but no help for air OC, still 1.53v 3.1G. i am going to run @ DI w/o IHS to see how it goes.

most the time i don't run CPU test; since it is not the real stable test, FYI

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Originally Posted by high5

i know they're not needed scoring-wise... no one runs them? i wouldn't agree.

showing 3DMark score w/o CPU tests as a proof of stability is IMHO pointless since they are the hardest to pass.

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some people just dont get this forum and i guess you are one

Some people have way too much money

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Originally Posted by Enjoicube

Some people have way too much money

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And I wouldn't mind being one of them.

Keep up the great work Kyosen:woot:

nice cpu i guess if you play with it a little bit more you can squeze more MHZ

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Originally Posted by Enjoicube

Some people have way too much money

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dnt thread crap just because your not 1 of them! ppl can spend there money as they wish...

bk on topic...

those really are some great clocks there mate, 3.3 on water is amazin tbh :D

I didn't say it was a bad thing.... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by shigs

...those really are some great clocks there mate, 3.3 on water is amazin tbh :D

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3.3 on ln2 :D on water it was 3.1G. But both are nice clocks for the first fx60 around. I hope that some cpu´s have no cold bug ;)

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Originally Posted by olDirdey

3.3 on ln2 :D on water it was 3.1G. But both are nice clocks for the first fx60 around. I hope that some cpu´s have no cold bug ;)

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lmao oops my bad :P i ment 2 say 3.1 on water is gd :slapass: :D

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Originally Posted by afireinside

Wow this is xtremesystems. It's about running the fastest you can and scoring higher than anyone else. Not how stable the CPU tests are. If you care about stability go run prime or just play games.

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well for me, its about both... probably b/c my system has been off for less than 24h over the past 3 months.

and if you haven't noticed, there are sections here on XS that heavily rely on stability. they (we?) are not less 'xtreme' than you are, its just being xtreme in a different way.

i guess i could just delete my posts from this thread, but that wouldn't be fair on my part...

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Originally Posted by bazx

some people just dont get this forum and i guess you are one

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:up:

High5 was just curious as to why the tests weren't run. I never thought about disabling them either. :D

My dual-core at 2.8ghz flies... just can't imagine one at 3.3ghz!!!

It's so sad to go to work every day to my Pentium4 1.5ghz with pc133 256mb ram... I did buy a pc133 256mb stick from someone a few weeks ago and stuck it in there without telling 'em, lol... just cuz I'm so used to a computer 10x the speed.

The only thing that sucks about OCing is that you'll never want to touch a mid-grade system... I hate the computers here at work. The server here is a lousy p4 2.4 w/512mb ram... if only they knew what us OCers do....

Keep up the good work, man... just don't get a job where you sit in front of a slower computer everyday... you'll go mental!

Yup I had a talk with Jason last night you should deff run 2 sp2004, spi, whatever to test stability with dc.

*Wipes slobber off chin* Dang!

What is the FX Dual core processer for the M2 socket rated at? mhz....are those gonna be 60nm?

Damn, there I go getting off topic!

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Originally Posted by high5

well for me, its about both... probably b/c my system has been off for less than 24h over the past 3 months.

and if you haven't noticed, there are sections here on XS that heavily rely on stability. they (we?) are not less 'xtreme' than you are, its just being xtreme in a different way.

i guess i could just delete my posts from this thread, but that wouldn't be fair on my part...


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High stable clocks and high bench clocks are both xtreme and both different. We all know kyosen, he goes all out. Why bother asking for stability?

I got FX-60 running at 3,5 GHz yesterday with 1,647V. (3DMark05 stable). Cold bug is nasty :(

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

I got FX-60 running at 3,5 GHz yesterday with 1,647V. (3DMark05 stable). Cold bug is nasty :(

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It best your FX57 @ 3.6Ghz in every bench i gues ?
what does 01 say?

Same -60C evap. here with Opty 154 CAB2E 0539....colder and it will freezz:(

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Originally Posted by Willis

It best your FX57 @ 3.6Ghz in every bench i gues ?
what does 01 say?

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Not sure how 01 works out but in 03/05 a 3.5ghz dual core will lay the smack down on any FX57 under 3.75 or so.

damn is the FX60 great, :banana: :banana:

I´m wondering that it is avilable in Germany that soon:D :D

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Originally Posted by cupra

yep, its look like that all the fx60 have that :rolleyes:

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hope the high end fx from 06xx won't have cold bug.;)

Great effort there, nice details in Japanese.;)

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

I got FX-60 running at 3,5 GHz yesterday with 1,647V. (3DMark05 stable). Cold bug is nasty :(

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What temperature @ cpu? How high does it go prime95 stable?

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Originally Posted by afireinside

Wow this is xtremesystems. It's about running the fastest you can and scoring higher than anyone else. Not how stable the CPU tests are. If you care about stability go run prime or just play games.

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Originally Posted by afireinside

High stable clocks and high bench clocks are both xtreme and both different.

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contradicting???
Stability is just as extreme. For me personally i dont like to see suicide shots. Doesnt show what the part can do. Im anxious to see what kyo's fx60 can do

good work Kyosen




@high5 and the dude above my post:
stop polluting this thread with stability talk.....what are you going to ask for next .........a 24 hour prime run on mousepots...........:rolleyes: unbelievable

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Originally Posted by dinos22

good work Kyosen




@high5 and the dude above my post:
stop polluting this thread with stability talk.....what are you going to ask for next .........a 24 hour prime run on mousepots...........:rolleyes: unbelievable

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ignorance at its best :slapass: . A mousepot isnt a stable form of cooling. When i buy parts i look here to see what the parts can do. Say the fx60 can only do 2.9 stable but can do a suicide at 3.5. The suicide is all and great but i cant do anything with that and a stablility of only 2.9 is not be that extreme to me so that would deter me from wanting to buy that particular processor. Sure this is "xtreme" systems but mousepoting our :banana::banana::banana::banana: is not the only thing we do here.

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Originally Posted by dinos22

@high5 and the dude above my post:
stop polluting this thread with stability talk.....what are you going to ask for next .........a 24 hour prime run on mousepots...........:rolleyes: unbelievable

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before calling out on me to stop polluting this thread, you should have noted that i haven't posted in this thread for 3 days.

and FYI i didn't have intention to post in here any more... until now, thanks to you.

but now that i have posted... is it forbidden to ask for some stability?

when we're talking about something as expensive and as rare as FX-60, is it that difficult to understand that i'm interested in what this thing can actually do?

Yes it is This is Xtreme Overclocking where they are using DICE not Air or Water. That is not a 24/7 cooling method. Why don't you learn that alittle bit before asking for stability

Very Nice Kyosen :up:

These chips max out at <3.6hz so even 3.3ghz is amazing for them. Watch out for the first person to get them "stable" to 3.6ghz. Here' s a hint: Pedro's getting one too ;)


By stable, I mean stable enough to bench. Other definitions of stable can be forwarded to www.barbieteaparty.com . :p:

Perkam

What's the hostility about? I know you're all jealous of an FX-60 cuz I know I am. :) :)

If I pushed my Opteron 170 to its limits, I'd probably only hit 2.9ghz on my watercooling stable.

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Originally Posted by perkam

By stable, I mean stable enough to bench. Other definitions of stable can be forwarded to www.barbieteaparty.com . :p:

Perkam

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LOL

Keep up the good work

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Originally Posted by perkam

By stable, I mean stable enough to bench. Other definitions of stable can be forwarded to www.barbieteaparty.com . :p:

Perkam

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Wow... that really is hilarious... I missed that post. :D

For me, something like Dual 32M stable is interesting, as you can see that both cores are "stable" under both cores fully loaded

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Originally Posted by perkam

By stable, I mean stable enough to bench. Other definitions of stable can be forwarded to www.barbieteaparty.com . :p:

Perkam

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:D ........

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Originally Posted by perkam

By stable, I mean stable enough to bench. Other definitions of stable can be forwarded to www.barbieteaparty.com . :p:

Perkam

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lol

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Originally Posted by live2game2003

Yes it is This is Xtreme Overclocking where they are using DICE not Air or Water. That is not a 24/7 cooling method. Why don't you learn that alittle bit before asking for stability

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I never said 24/7.