hi guys, is 1.75 vcore on wc still ok? for 24/7?
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hi guys, is 1.75 vcore on wc still ok? for 24/7?
Not much I think.
I'd say it's a bit high. I don't like to go over 1.65v even on my vapochill, so...
you're asking for trouble .....not saying you will defintely find it but you're looking :)
temp at fullload is under 50C
i pull 1.67-1.72 on my 3000 venice on air, no troubles here
temps aren't your enemy if they're under 50c but you're still pushing it @ 1.75 i wouldnt be comfortable with that 24/7 under my vapo ls let alone water.
my opty 146 dropped dead while using 1.705v
hm, thx guys, so whats safe volt for 24/7?
I wouldn't go higher than 1.6. Preferably less. Keep in mind, using high voltages like that WILL significantly lower the lifespan of the CPU.
most stop at 1.65. cuz most of the time more volts wont get ur primestable clocks higher anyway.
but i dont know if 1.75 is too much for 24/7 - my sandy ran fine up to 1.92v on wc and took no damage whatsoever.
so id say 1.75 is not really much.
remember that we used to run our athlonXPs with 2.0-2.2v 24/7 and that didnt kill the good ol 130nm chips.
so 1.75 on 90nm shouldnt be an issue i guess... as long as the die temp is <48°C
hehe, back when ocing my duron600 i asked a friend "but wont the higher volts lower the lifespan?"Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
he was like "yeah, sure. from twenty years down to ten." :D
and from what i've seen in the meantime he was right.
Youre shortening it's ifespan exponetially with Vcore like that, 1.92 should be enough to kill it on the spot, youve been lucky. Plenty of 90nm chips died on 1.85v very fast even with good cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_KHAN
That's really not a good comparison, I'm not putting diesel fuel in my car only because I know it does work well with diesel engines. WTF man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_KHAN
And volts kill independent of temperature, dont be spreading false information.
im just spreading information that i gained by ocing 5 generations of cpus
yeah, all my athlon xp got 2 volt or 2.1 volt,
but now on 0.09um i dont know
ps. hast du icq?
Well I guess you can take the risk if you like, but the optys don't like high voltage like that. If it dies, don't complain! :)
Get in and drive it that's what i do for the first few days thats it.
Once its broke in a bit <1.6 is all it should take.
Without better cooling you may be asking for it :slap: :slap:.
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Originally Posted by v0dka
So you're saying I can use up to say....... 10V on my vcore?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_KHAN
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6149/14x2651hd.jpg
hm, ok, i limit it, now im at 1.525 + 110%, smartguardian show 1.63 volt. but it's still too high?
Should be perfect for everyday use with even a little room to spare ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rookiekiller
hehe, if someone's willing to donate me a cpu, i'll be glad to give it 1.8v under water and see how long it lasts :DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Well I was thinking about donating my FX57 to your cause, but then I remembered that it doesn't like to boot @ >1.76Vcore. Too bad....:( :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
hm, ive got another question, can i use 5 volt vdimm with my antec true control 20 pin? is it possible?
It's possible, but not recommended.....Quote:
Originally Posted by rookiekiller
hm, on my dfi nf2, i rma d over 10 times =o)
i dont like risk like my nf2 anymore =o)
im not into flaming dude...Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
read my post again
Don't quite understand what you're trying to insinuate here :rolleyes: But I read over your post again and please enlighten me if I've missed anything......This is what you posted and correct me if I'm wrong, but you're clearly giving advice which could lead to possible damage to someone else's HW.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_KHAN
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Originally Posted by Der_KHAN
s7e9h3n, I think you are taking his statement out of context. But I get squeemish if I go over 1.65...
basically upping the voltage is the same as tightening a wire. Tightening it too much will make it crack. Now if you see nm as the thickness of the wire: 90nm takes about 1.7.. 1.75 is pushing it. Now with a clawhammer (130nm) you can go up to 1.8-1.9, without being afraid it will die (or the wire to be cracked).
lol
I wish I could put 1.75v through my winchester. Anything over 1.55v is pointlesss with my 3000+ .09 chip even with good water cooling and the heat trapper removed it doesn't improve the overclock a bit.
All these new .09 chips I've seen on here are running stable at 1.65v even on air. There seems to be an improvment in the new cores ability to handle voltage or my chip really sucks.
Something tells me anything over 1.65v is pushing it for 24/7 use but I've never been afraid of killing hardware as long as the overclock at the increased voltage was worth it to me. :banana:
1.75v on air/water for extended periods on .09nm will kill the chip guaranteed. not a question of if, but when.
now prime is running over 2 hours with 1.525 + 110% at 312 x 10.
Can someone PLEASE show me an AMD that died of 1.8v+? I see people say this and that about going over 1.65v being able to kill a 90nm A64 but I have yet to see a single post about death due to voltage. I've ramed 2 volts into 4 different 939 chips without a single problem.
haha, besides, a lot of people would have my head for doing something like that to an FX. thanks for the thought anyway :D :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Afi - for sure man, I hear ya. I ran 1.73v through my one Venice on air daily and never had a problem with extra cooling on the cpu. I think maybe TOO much could possibly give it sudden death related symptoms, but again, no one has come forward with info on this.
I promise you that if you ram 2.0V into my 0512 FX57, you'll kill it within a few attempts....and no, I'm not gonna prove it :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
i think that as a general rule of thumb, the more heat a cpu puts out with a given core, voltage and mhz, the less voltage it can take...Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
blame the "fast" transistors and "slow" transistors (different oxide gate widths, yes? ;))
I think you lost me on that one :confused: I can bench up to around 1.72Vcore, but anything beyond that get's sketchy.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4...x26232m4bl.jpg
I still to execute my not-so-good-clocking Venice by putting it on 1.7 V and see how long it lasts.
I should get that project going...
i'm not sure if i'm right, but basically the more amd tweaks a core for higher mhz, the higher the temps tend to be, and the less voltage it can take reliably.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
someone who knows their microE better than myself can explain better :p:
1.65V is as high as I go. OK, maybe 1.7V for 24/7 as long as the temperatures are at bay.
Yeah, like me. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
just pop the ihs off and its gonna be alrightQuote:
Originally Posted by Martin Cracauer
I ran my X2 4400+ at 1.73V all yesterday, despite that people constantly say X2 may die at anything above 1.6V, but it's fine. Nothing I would recommend for long term usage though.
-k0nsl
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Originally Posted by afireinside
I think that's true. My San Diego 3700+ doesn't even boot at more than 1.87v, and my winnie 3500+ died at 2.03vQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n