I have it in my hands, can only do a little testing tonite.
Screenshots soon.
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I have it in my hands, can only do a little testing tonite.
Screenshots soon.
Good luck :) Come back with some good news. Had one in hand since last friday but haven't had chance or willingness to install brand new windows as I got busy with A8N32 :P (yes I do have plenty of spare HDD but just didn't feel like dragging CD around, etc) I get the feeling this will be the mobo I might end up stciking to though.Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
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Ok first up I can enable software crossfire using 2 x1300pro sapphire cards.Used 5.11cats
here are some pics.
Will finish tomorrow testing.:D
nice results! good to see you don't need a mastercard woohoo! mine is coming friday.
I am using this thread strictly for the board I have a crossfire thread in the 3d section.
I will be loading up bios screenshots shortly.
Currently the board boots very slowly with crossfire enabled.
It gets into windows but it takes about a minute.
I will be testing with some kingston hyper x, gskill and ocz 3200vx.
There is a little switch you insert in the black slot so the blue slot can run full speed.
Mine comes in on friday as well, but i read over on AT forums that the Vcore options is broken? The reviews say it has a max of 1.65v but everyone on At forums say they can only get a max of 1.55v or so, which is not enough for most enthusiasts. Can you post what your max vcore is?
Will mark it down as something to report on.
Max is only 1,55v.
The board looks at the cpu mine is e3 so I can enable over volt option but it will give 1.45 max plus .1 on overvolt.
So 1.55 is the max at the moment.
I wish I could find one in stock. I'm all set to order my upgrade parts and am about to go with an A8N-SLI Premium. Not 100% satisfied with that idea though. :(
ewiz.com :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche911
is where i ordered mine yesterday.
also can try atacom.com
censuspc.com has it but not in stock yet.
ewiz.com is 99.00 w/o shipping (i got 3day so it was $118 w/ shipping)
best price minus buy.com but they don't have it in stock yet.
buy.com is $104 with shipping.
Whoa, thanks guys. I checked Newegg when I got home from work a couple hours ago and it was out then. I'll check into ewiz, never bought from them before but for $40 less, it might be worthwhile. Otherwise, thanks LoN3R. :D *busts out credit card*
anandtech says max 1.65 (1.45 + .2) :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
i've ordered from them before. they are reliable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche911
2 opterons and now this board which should be here friday! :)
bad news on my end... plugged in and OCZ 600W PSU spontanenously combusted. This isn't first time OCZ PSU did this and thankfully ballistix and opty 175 is fine. Going to take mobo on different PSU tomorrow and see if it is fine too... last 2 ocz spontaneous combusting psu didn't kill any components so I am not too worried (one 520 one 600)
PS) as suspected mobo lived fine. I will probably test on tomorrow
Wow thats good news and bad news...well mostly good news :p: Please keep us posted. I've beeen eyeing that board ever since I read the Anandtech review. I love more for less :banana: :banana:
I've been fighting for 2 days trying to get decent results with this board and Opty 146 CABGE with Centon TCCD on B6U808 with no luck, time to switch for the 146 CABYE, will do in a few minutes and be back to report later.
I just pick up one from my supplier today aswell, but its not for me, its for my buddy. Atleast the Vdimm goes to 3.2v.
anyone have any major gripes about this board? I am getting mine tommorw, can't wait to put that x850 MC to use
fwiw - Fry's also has the board in stock at their stores for $139
Im very curious about the max bootable FSB on this board...
I need high FSB to get everything out of my Opteron, ~320MHz FSB.
Good luck testing when you get your PSU swopped :toast:
Well, things are better with this CABYE than they were with his bro that wouldn't do 2.6 with the provided volts no matter what, even 2.5 was a challenge. It just failed prime after 1h18 while i'm typing this, funny thing is that if i try 296 it won't even make it to windows desktop. Ram is only running 196Mhz using a 133 divider cos' i can't for the life of me get it to run 1/1, i must be doin' something seriously wrong.
Anyone got a working clockgen for this board?
How about windows ram-tweaking?
Lovely. I put the board on phase figuring my opty is quite well burnt in. Turn it on freshly made single stage unit (well, it was made about a week ago but I was too sick to do anything) figuring I will charge tune the single stage as I go with this board only to find with my optie 175 (dual core), I am limited to 1.475v as my max v-core. I guess I really need to start digging for 50k vr so I can v-mod both A8N32 and this board. Bios read out for voltage is a lot more accurate than on A8N32 and I can trust the value it gives out for voltage (so if you are used to DFI NF4 Ultra, etc, subtract about .05 volt from what you see on software reading, bios reading, etc to compare voltage you are on for v-core). Funny thing is, I can't really tune my single stage with this as
#1) 1.475v dual priming doesn't even start dent my temperature on my single stage to even know what is going on.
#2) I see 45c right when windows boot up with the asus probe thing. When I dual prime I see 25c. Hmmmmmmmmm..... Wonder if there is supposed to be - in front or what....? Since I have no valid way to read core temp... it's all guess other than evaporator temp I see.
Interesting board to say the least. In the end, I guess only thing matters is how it overclocks. Which I won't really find out till v-mod is done.
PS) OKAY... 45c is -45c based on speed fan.... wtf.... My evap temp is only -53c...? Seems like to me temp reading is bit different than what I am used to on DFI or this optie is reading temp bit better than my x2 3800 did. Anyways, I will have to just keep investigating to find out how Asus reads temps. It might be back to the p4 time when abit reads temp about 10c higher than asus did and no one really knew exactly why kind of time.
huh? what? did i miss something?Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
crossfire works without a mastercard? :confused:
Searching for a VCore Mod :D :D :D
wow the x1300 is pathetic.. my 9800 pro gets a better score than it in 3dmark05 stock everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by LoN3R
Bios screenshots sorry camera is a bit wonky today:(
I am currently running at 300htt 1:1 using some gskill.
Not bad so far.
Booted right up no issues.
ahhh 1300, yeah i thougt about getting some too :D
i thougt you were running x800 or x1800 :D
i thougt maybe they managed to enable crossfire on those cards without a mastercard :eek: hehe
imagine how nice that would be!
thx for the updates althes, so it has more memory options that the p4gd1, good.
Nice mb would be great for the X1800XT CF!
There's a good possibility that you won't need a master card for R580 cards..:toast: :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
I would hope so
so, Anandtech says 1.65v max vcore...can you confirm?
The board only does 1.50-1.52 max
It needs a new bios.
Huh? new bios enables more v-core? Regardless right now, v-core is limited for Dual core optie at very granny 1.475v. Surprisingly the bios read of v-core is dead on accurate. Scarey. I just did v-mod tonight and put it back in phase and dual priming at 2.9ghz with my optie now. 25k ohm on pin 8 just as in A8N32 works fine so far. I wouldn't recommend anything lower than 25k though for v-modding as I saw instant 0.03v gain with 25k ohm at full 25k ohm already.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1134698830
BTW, thank craig for v-mod as he did it first in A8N32 and all I did was copy it over. I've quickly tested up to 1.65v right now just playing with 1.5v just to get feel of how my optie handles... :)
Hmm...
So for those of you with teh v-mod skillz, this mobo is okay.
For the rests of us...:stick:
sweet! a board i can vmod. man, it's been a WHILE. lol. i missed my soldering iron :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jinu117
Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
:woot: Yeah,this is sweet. I would much rather the mobo manufactures keep bios's at safe vcore and vdimm,and let the true overclockers have their fun with vmods. Keeps the n00bs away. :wasntme:
is vdimm taken from +5v or +3.3v?
mhhhh looks similar to my p4gd1, so id say 3.3v
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...mvp/a8r-mb.jpg
Ive never volt modded before, but i assume the software will show the proper vcore readings?
Never use software for Voltage readings! Always use a Digital Multimeter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hybrid
Yea i know its not accurate, but I was wondering if the reading stll changes accordingly.
I will try that vmod shortly. Doing some more testing at the moment
bah, cant asus just releease a bios with enabled higher vcore?
:slapass: asus.
Got to ask someone to do a vcore mod otherwise ;)
@ althes, did you have a dfi board before hand?
just curious to see if you have gotten a higher overclock.
i got my board today but I don't think I'll be installing it until tomorrow since I need to redo my watercooling loop.
I had the dfi board and could only hit 280 with this board I can hit 300 1:1 no problem at all.
The thing this board really lacks is more mem volts for bh5 sticks.
First set back, the board has a bad ide port.
Guess it will have to go back.
At least I know my 200gb hd is not dead, had me real scared.:p:
Anything beyond 300MHz FSB possible?
Upon further testing of the board it hates 1t, sometimes it wont even boot up.
:mad:
Well I guess for some folks chasing World records that will steer them away, but I want stability at high clocks, as I will be using my next mobo to replace my POS Ultra-D that continues to have cold boot issues(what good is a mobo that ya have to unplug crap/clear cmos to get it to boot).Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
I will be running 2x1GB GSkills ( haven't got yet) in it for my HTPC.
I am a bit concerned about the Vcore limitations though.....
It seems Asus doesn't like giving big Vcore to folks..
I can't believe I'm even considering an Asus product tbo, as the flakiest/most unstable board I ever owned was also the most expensive I ever bought....
K7m(original Athy)- Biggest hunk-o-crap i ever owned.
I'll be watching this thread, as I really need to find a fast board that overclocks well, and doesn't have cold boot issues ( unlike the DFI RDx200, I cant believe they have cold boot issues... AGAIN!!)
I'm really hesistant.. every asus board I have owned has backfired on me.. but this is the only RDX200 board with the ULI chip thats any good probably.. (not going to be bothering with MSI for a while...).
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzz
The funny thing is the board is really stable.
On the dfi board it took 1.65-1.7 to get my cpu stable at 2700(300*9)
The asus has it stable at 1.50-1.52v (1.55max)
It seem they are using the 2t command so any ram used will be stable.
It is dead on when it says 3.2v
I am testing ocz vx now1gb.
There is no cold boot on this at all.
Finishing up some spuer pi scores after ruuning some 3d benchies with the ocz.
The board is fast and very responsivess.
All in all so far I have to recommend the board as extremely stable with the ability to run crossfire at present its the only board that can do it without a mastercard.:p:
Thanks for the info althes, I appreciate it.
.15-.2volts MORE on the DFI at the same speed?
Anand said it defaults to 2t, but 1T was no problem, have you found this to be true?
Like I said fast, no cold boot, stable.
Pretty simple right? ;)
Thx again althes
m
Edit: Boston Ma ?
I live 20 miles south of Boston :)
well, unless a different board comes out between now and when I order this one it looks like this will be my new board for a while.
I blame you if it sucks althes :D:D
The board seems rock stable though, all the boots has been by adventure.
No bluescreens or strange behaviours as far.
Same here, i had a hell of a hard time to clock my TCCD sticks, they woudn't do more than 280 1/1 DC and that would be 2T then, but the board makes an overall good impression and playing with bios settings doesn't bring this scrary feeling you have with some boards, anyway, as i was not completely satisfied with the board i went to the shop and switched it for another one that i will soon put to the test and see it performs any better.Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
The updates continue I have switched over to the ocz 3200vx and have gotten 1t to work.
So far so good on my end with v-mod. Having hard time cracking into dual core 3.1ghz dual prime stable without going over actual 1.7v v-core. Been playing with some memory related thing just in case but no luck yet :) The board is very stable. I must have ran about 40 hours worth of prime 95 all over the place by now and no BSOD so far.
nice board and cheap solution :)
Is it a great performer with nvidia cards ?
edit : is it possible to run CF with 2x X800GTO2 with this board ? :D
Hmmm, then your problems were even worse than mine, first board would have primed even a little tighter timings 1T at those speeds, problems were surfacing around 250-260ish. Don't know if i will be brave enough to test tonight as i didn't sleeped last night but then i also switched my pos Sapphire x1800xl, so it makes it 2 good reasons to get back to testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
Cant wait to see what happens lowrun, I am testing the hell out of it right now, wont be home much tomorrow so my playtime is right now, going to load up some doom on it and see how it goes later this evening.
Running it at 300htt with 133 divider using the ocz 3200vx, going ok so far.
I may just do the vmod, i hope asus does release a bios at least allowing us to go to 1.7
Not that high htt myself, somewhere around 277-278 mhz I think. Been very stable so far?
is it possible to run 2x X800GTO2 in cross fire ?
Can someone answer this? Never looked at CF board... it was just get away ticket from DFI for me ;P How do this crossfire thing work anyway? ;P What is this master card thing which really confuses me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
No it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
The only cards that dont need a mastercard for xfire are the x1300 and x1600.
I dont think the x800gt0 will run cf without a mastercard.
295-300htt is about the highest I can bench at with totally stability and I am running 1t but have to run a divider for my ocz 3200vx at 2/2/2/6.
I am about to try 1.5Gb see if I can get it stable with 4dimms.
All in all its a very stable board if you treat it properly.
Definitely not for world record benches.:D
Have you tried upping the chipset voltage and apply active cooling on the chip for higher HTT?Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
dual X800GTO2 in CF would be a killer setup:rolleyes:
good news althes and everybody else, nicke^ just did a 5v vdimm feed mod on the p4gd1 with the help of persivore!
since the boards seem to have similar vdimm circuits im sure this mod can be done on the a8r-mvp as well! this mod allows up to 5v vdimm :hehe:
you need to unsolder a mosfet and do a vdimm mod though:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...t=81795&page=5
(post on the bottom of that thread)
Chipset volts is up to max, no need for other cooling runs cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by stryg
got my board up and running!
is there a clockgen like program yet for ati boards?
I've got mine up and running. I wont start overclocking until tomorrow or so.
I've got a 3700+SD and a Thermaltake BT on there. Paired up with a 7800GT o/c'd to 460/1100 stock + 2x1GB OCZ DIMMs. :D
depends on what board your using, theres a different clockgen for each pll, and different boards usually use different plls.
check what pll it has and see if theres already a clockgen for it.
and there was an ati tool wich worked like clockgen for the grouper board iirc, maybe it works on this board.
huh? pll?Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
speak english man!!! :)
but seriuosly, i really don't know what you mean. :)
whats the highest you have been able to go 1:1, I am running into a wall, with my old system I was able to run 260x10 1:1, p95 blend stable, 2.6 is stable, but if I set it to 1:1 I get blue screens etc...
any ideas?
I was able to run it with all 4 dimms full.
NOt very good though.
In order to run the four dimms over stock you have to run 2t.
The board also automatically runs a divider for when 4 dimms are installed even if you use tweaker or the bios.
I have been able to get 300 1:1 with some gskill 4800la at 2.5/4/4/8
Well, finaly couldn't resist and got the replacement board up and running, she's a little more OC friendly and let me boot 295Mhz 1/1 but still not with 1T, right now it's priming @ 290 1:1 2.5 4 3 8 2T while i'm typing.Quote:
Originally Posted by drkCrix
Anandtech's 325 1:1 1T run looks impressive from here, i must know what kind of magic is involved there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
Tried 4 dimms too on the first board yesterday, can't recall noticing that divider issue tho', maybe i was too tired by that time and it's 5:20AM here allready, won't sleep much tonight either.
Damn prime just crapped after 35min, maybe some burnin' will help alittle.
Last weekend I sent this inquiry to cpuz@cpuid.orgQuote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
Greetings,
I have an inquiry. I searched your site’s list of supported motherboards
but could not find the answer to my question.
Do you have any plans to support S939 Crossfire motherboards, such as the
newer Asus A8R-MPV, which use the ATI northbridge? If so, how long would
you anticipate before this support becomes available?
Thank you in advance,
and shortly thereafter received this reply from Franck Delattre
Hello,
I suspect you have a webcam in my room :-) As a manner of fact I’m currently working on this board. But I have some troubles with the Uli southbridge, and it does not work yet.
Thanks,
Franck
There may be something by now, or if not yet, I suspect there will be before long.
Anyone has Wesley Fink's from Anandtech forum email addy ? In a A8R-MVP thread over there, he said that we could email him to request for the modified bios that was used for their review on the board. He would then provide it to the sender. Can someone kindly help ? Perhaps then the file can be hosted and shared out to all board owners.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
:woot:
there run 2x256mb? I know that was a breeze on my abit yet it's also plagued by not reaching 300 1/1 at 1T with 2x512mb or higherQuote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
Nah, running 2x512 here.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
It's on the first page of the A8R-MVP review.Quote:
Originally Posted by xforce
Thanks. Will drop an email to him. Hopefully it works out.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
:)
I meant was anandtechs run 2x256mb Lowrun. sorry for the poor vocabulary, I'm tired atm.
Ahh ok sorry, here's what was used for the review:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
And yeah, tired here too, 6:50AM here already and no sleep last night :zombie:Quote:
2 x 512MB OCZ PC3200* Platinum Rev. 2
*The current equivalent OCZ memory is OCZ PC4800
That would be cool :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by xforce
I have a little info to add. I don't have a A8R-MPV but have a mobo that has a ATI express 200 with ULI south bridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness
OK, this may mean that the functions do not work on ULi chipset.
I'll check this out.
Thanks for the test.
Franck
----- Original Message ----- From:
To: "Franck Delattre [cpuz]" <cpuz@cpuid.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: clockgen for Tul ax480a7-f
> The program runs but when I click on read clocks, nothing happens. In PLL setup not specified is the only option.
>
> Franck Delattre [cpuz] wrote:
>
>> Hi Steven,
>> you can try this version :
>> XXXXXXXXXXX
>> It does not support the 951416 yet, but you can already see if the PLL is found (I'm uncertain that the Uli chip are well supported).
>>
>> If the program runs, choose "not specified" in the PLL setup, then click on "read clocks". You should see the dump in the edit control, in the same window. Then click right on this dump and choose "save the dump". Choose the file you want to save to, and then send it back to me.
>>
>> Thanks !
>> Franck
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> To: <cpuz@cpuid.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:23 PM
>> Subject: clockgen for Tul ax480a7-f
>>
>>
>>> Is it posable to make a clockgen for this motherboard? Its a ATI RX480 with ULI m1573. Its clock gen is a ICS 951416.
pll = phase locked loopQuote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
its based on a quartz crystal and is used to adjust and set the clockspeeds of ics, integrated circuits.
a cpu runs at 3000mhz, hz = switches per second, how does the cpu know how many switches it has to do? if you put a pizza in the oven and it needs 20 minutes how do you know when to take it out?
you have a look at a clock as a reference :D
the cpu does the same.
a quartz crystal creates a very steady pulse if you feed it with electricity.
thats used as a reference for cpus and all other hardware so they know when to switch the transistors on or off again.
the pll uses a quarts crystal refrence clock and multiples it until you get the exact clock you want and then tells the hardware to work at that speed.
basically the pll is like the drum on a dragon boat, the faster the drum gets hit the faster the people in the boat will move and the faster the boat will go.
Anyone have any advice on getting Cool & Quiet running?
I've installed the ASUS "Cool & Quiet v1.026" and enabled C&Q in BIOS, but it wont drop CPU speeds. Do I need some sort of driver as well, because there doesn't seem to be anything on the motherboard's CD I'm missing.
You also have to enable ACPI 2.0 in your bios and power setting to minimal usage
looks like wesley sent the bios out to everyone know.
time to flash!
I forgot, I had done that as well (enabling ACPI 2.0) as the manual suggests. But what's this about setting to minimal usage? Is that in another menu? Because once it's enabled, no "power settings" appear in that menu... thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by elvicco
hmm... i flashed. i still don't get +0.2 volts when i set it to vcore overvolt.
anyone else?