DFI nf4 Ultra-d cleaning after Vapochill (6k warning)

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12-03-2005, 01:25 PM
slimais

DFI nf4 Ultra-d cleaning after Vapochill (6k warning)

needed to sell my old DFI nf4 ultra-d, and some cleanup was needed (because of a lot of Luberex on, in and around the socket ) so... a little bit of Fairy dishwashing liquid & a touthbrush... :rolleyes: & a lot of water :banana:

let the pictures speak for themsselves :D ...
http://bildez.lv/bildes/someonesick/...1133490861.jpg
http://bildez.lv/bildes/someonesick/...1133490865.jpg
http://bildez.lv/bildes/someonesick/...1133490869.jpg
http://bildez.lv/bildes/someonesick/...1133490872.jpg
http://bildez.lv/bildes/someonesick/...1133490897.jpg

so no worrys about DI action & everyday Vapo use... its easy to clean up :p:

btw... the mobo still works :clap:
12-03-2005, 01:33 PM
HKPolice

errrrrrrrrrr. I don't think you're supposed to get the capacitors wet, it's got electrolytic stuff in it.
12-03-2005, 01:38 PM
Jort

mhhhh.....

reminds me what kinc did with his gfx card, its getting a hype i think :D
12-03-2005, 01:38 PM
slimais

the mobo is alrady tested... it works...
i know it was risky... but i needed to clean the mobo... & this was the moust effective way
12-03-2005, 01:38 PM
metro.cl

i elieve that card wont work like before, water isnt a good friend of pc parts
12-03-2005, 01:38 PM
njkid32

WOW your crazy doing that! All you needed to get was some component cleaner
12-03-2005, 01:46 PM
slimais

i already tryed spirit before... it was realy hard to clean off the Luberex ... & i could not do it so good like i did with fairy& Luberex...
so it was the best choise... all I neaded after the washing was a powerful hairdryhairdryer

(2 njkid32... btw, your 3200+ venice (3,7Ghz WR) is dead... it died in my arms today :( it just died after a restart... :( im not happy today... )
12-03-2005, 01:48 PM
Major

LMAO !!!

I'm just glad I'm not the one who bought the mb from you !! :D

seriously, this is not the recondmended way of cleaning off your mb !
12-03-2005, 01:58 PM
Betaboy

Ugh the DFI nF4 Ultra-D I have is secondhand.... :eek:
12-03-2005, 02:03 PM
sierra_bound

That's crazy. Electronic contact cleaner is much safer. There are lots of different brands. Even Radio Shack carries it.

http://www.jacquescoulombe.com/709.jpg
12-03-2005, 02:11 PM
Aphex_Tom_9

if forget who, but someone put a mobo through the dishwasher once lol
12-03-2005, 02:16 PM
slimais

no Radio Shack in our country ever...
to say the true... im not an idiot... i dont wanto show of... but its was truly the easyest way to clean it... :confused:
12-03-2005, 02:23 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimais

i already tryed spirit before... it was realy hard to clean off the Luberex ... & i could not do it so good like i did with fairy& Luberex...
so it was the best choise... all I neaded after the washing was a powerful hairdryhairdryer

(2 njkid32... btw, your 3200+ venice (3,7Ghz WR) is dead... it died in my arms today :( it just died after a restart... :( im not happy today... )

Yup, contact cleaner is the easiest and most effective way. Mine gets the dielectric grease off with no prob......

BTW, NjKid's 3200+ hasn't been the WR 3200+ in awhile. Mine took the WR after he sent it to me:
http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/4196/3716cpuz4gf.jpg

PM me if you're looking for a replacement 3200+ ;)
12-03-2005, 02:25 PM
sierra_bound

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimais

no Radio Shack in our country ever...
to say the true... im not an idiot... i dont wanto show of... but its was truly the easyest way to clean it... :confused:

Check any electronics shop in your country. They should have electronic contact cleaner or something similar. Something to remember the next time you clean a motherboard. ;)
12-03-2005, 02:30 PM
slimais

ok... i will think about the venice ;)
btw... -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=80884 ok, not the w/r... but i hoped to get it under LN2... :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra_bound

Check any electronics shop in your country. They should have electronic contact cleaner or something similar. Something to remember the next time you clean a motherboard. ;)

been there, done that... i live in Latvia... its hard to get something like that... at least where i checked, i even neaded to order Luberex...
12-03-2005, 02:34 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimais

ok... i will think about the venice ;)
btw... -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=80884 ok, not the w/r... but i hoped to get it under LN2... :(

hehe..I know, I saw that - but I pulled off the score first ;) On top of that, I didn't need to use DI and STILL have the IHS on the cpu :p:

EDIT - Actually, I took a look at Kiwi's score again and noticed that his speed was 3716.06 and my score is 3716.11. So in fact, I'm STILL the WR holder for the 3200+ :woot: LOL (I actually had the cpu up to 3780, but cpuz wouldn't take the screenshot for me :( )
12-03-2005, 02:36 PM
dogsx2

If nothing else, you sure gave me a good laugh. "A merry heart is good medicine." :)

Don't let these guys get you down.:nono: It's yours and if you want to clean it that way, just do it.:banana:
12-03-2005, 02:46 PM
slimais

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

EDIT - Actually, I took a look at Kiwi's score again and noticed that his speed was 3716.06 and my score is 3716.11.

hehe... yes the w/r is yours by only by .05 :D ;) i hoped i would get a little more out of it... but it just died in everyday use... :(
12-03-2005, 03:01 PM
Flib

Cleaned a GFX card that way.
But don'T use a hair-drier. Put it into the oven at 50°C with circulationg air.
That's much better for the hardware, because 50°C won't hurt.
12-03-2005, 04:07 PM
PlatoonSgtElias

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimais

the mobo is alrady tested... it works...
i know it was risky... but i needed to clean the mobo... & this was the moust effective way

ROFL, just buy AUDIO VIDEO SPRAY. Cleaned mine with that... the board was soaked but this is purely harmless to electronics (y):toast:
12-03-2005, 04:24 PM
freecableguy

WTF is everybody so worried about?? What he did is perfectly fine. Water + electronics = OK. Water + electronics + power supplied = BAD. As long as everything is dried before power up there is not a single problem doing what he did.
12-03-2005, 04:25 PM
PlatoonSgtElias

The water will go into really narrow places... in time things will rust and then ull see the problems
12-03-2005, 04:29 PM
dogsx2

Plenty of cell phones have gotten wet and dried out and worked. FCG is right, as long as it dried out before using, it should be ok.
12-03-2005, 05:04 PM
Arkangyl

I'd be more worried about the drying process.

If the water had any iron in it [I know our tap water has a ton] then when you try the thing the H20 leaves but the iron stays on the board and can short out the traces.
12-03-2005, 05:38 PM
sierra_bound

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecableguy

WTF is everybody so worried about?? What he did is perfectly fine. Water + electronics = OK. Water + electronics + power supplied = BAD. As long as everything is dried before power up there is not a single problem doing what he did.

Water + electronics is not okay IMO. The problem is not conductivity, but corrosion. Water has this habit of seeping into places that you think are dry. This is one reason why many people with sub-zero cooling use silicon compound in the socket; to protect the CPU pins from condensation. Once the pins start corroding, it's all over.
12-03-2005, 06:13 PM
CPLB

If this is considered thread hi-jacking I appoligize, but I need to clean my Ultra-D too, and would like to know if all Electronic Contact Cleaners are the same or if there is a specific type or brand I should buy. Thanks.
12-03-2005, 06:29 PM
celemine1Gig

I also don't get why you are all so worried. As freecableguy already said, it's absolutely OK.

I washed several hardware parts (mainboards, video cards and so on) in our kitchen sink with lots of water and some dish washing liquid. There are only two things you need to keep in mind.

1) If you have one use an antistatic wrist-wrap while handling the hardware.
2) Make sure the hardware is 100% dry before powering it up again. A really easy way to make sure it is, is to use a hair dryer several times, to heat up the whole PCB. Then let it sit for some time and repeat this 3-5 times.

It won't harm the components if it's done right and you'll have clean hardware with a fresh smell afterwards. :D
12-03-2005, 07:41 PM
Sneaky

it probably wasn't the smartest thing to get the chipset fan bearings wet...

and i hope you replaced the thermal paste under the chipset heatsink as well
12-03-2005, 08:25 PM
phobix

Because of the mineral content in tap water I personally wouldn't wash my motherboard with anything but de-ionized water but that is just me.
12-03-2005, 08:38 PM
Shinuza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aphex_Tom_9

if forget who, but someone put a mobo through the dishwasher once lol

ROFL

I don't think it is that dangerous, I mean, once myself, I were testing watercooling components, but my tube were to tight for the connectors, so I had a big leak.
Lucky I tested the WC without anything else than the mobo. I just dried it, still works.

:fact:
12-04-2005, 02:44 AM
slimais

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sneaky

it probably wasn't the smartest thing to get the chipset fan bearings wet...

and i hope you replaced the thermal paste under the chipset heatsink as well

i did not wash the chipset region ;) the only part of the mobo i did wash was the socket/ram side
12-04-2005, 04:34 AM
Vassili

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1133699609
What happend to that component? It sure doesn't look good...
12-04-2005, 06:13 AM
da-key

I soaked a vid card and s478 socket with frosty condensation while chasing my dog down the street and not watching my temps. Took the hairdryer to it never had any problems. Corrosion is the main issue to get things dry quickly.
12-04-2005, 09:22 AM
slimais

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vassili

What happend to that component? It sure doesn't look good...

The surface of the R60 come off when i tryed to tear off the heatspreder, which i had attached on it
12-04-2005, 10:23 AM
ben805

you guys know some of those capacitors do hold charge right? I don't think washing the mobo with water is such a good idea :lol:
12-05-2005, 03:19 AM
njkid32

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimais

i already tryed spirit before... it was realy hard to clean off the Luberex ... & i could not do it so good like i did with fairy& Luberex...
so it was the best choise... all I neaded after the washing was a powerful hairdryhairdryer

(2 njkid32... btw, your 3200+ venice (3,7Ghz WR) is dead... it died in my arms today :( it just died after a restart... :( im not happy today... )

WTF how did that happen? Damn what a sad day that chip was GREAT! Sorry to hear.
12-05-2005, 12:43 PM
slimais

Quote:

Originally Posted by njkid32

WTF how did that happen? Damn what a sad day that chip was GREAT! Sorry to hear.

I dont know :( it just didnt work after a restart... i was so happy when i got it... under vapo it vas a 3,3ghz bencher but then when ion w/c it just died with a ordinary restart... which was lethal
:( :( :(
12-05-2005, 01:06 PM
jinu117

Calcium deposit, deteriorating contact for slots including memory. Why didn't you use electronic contact cleaner again? Wanted to save few bucks to hand someone a board that just isn't going to last as long as it should have? Oxidization of copper is real and once you put water on it it just happens much more rapidly. Unless you dried it above boiling point of water, you still have water molecule attached to copper no matter what you did. The board is going to look like :banana::banana::banana::banana: in less than few months. I suggest just keeping it for your backup instead of risking someone else with it. If I personally received a product like that and found out such cleaning method was used was not mentioned, I would felt it was fradulent transaction on my end.

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