'CHIP Voltage Control'
it's disabled by default
adjustable up to 1.8v
http://www.boomspeed.com/beatnic/a7n8xchipvolt.gif
the sucker ;)
the guys over nForcersHQ are doing some bios moddin'..
could it solve the 200MHz limitation?
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'CHIP Voltage Control'
it's disabled by default
adjustable up to 1.8v
http://www.boomspeed.com/beatnic/a7n8xchipvolt.gif
the sucker ;)
the guys over nForcersHQ are doing some bios moddin'..
could it solve the 200MHz limitation?
Hmmm, sounds interesting. Yeah, I bet it could easily solve the 200MHz FSB problem :). Anyone with a A7N8X wanna test it out? :toast:
They are testing it... we're all waiting up tonight for results. :-)Quote:
Originally posted by Radea
Hmmm, sounds interesting. Yeah, I bet it could easily solve the 200MHz FSB problem :). Anyone with a A7N8X wanna test it out? :toast:
I can test it as soon as my extra BIOS chip arrive, it's late...
Here's the modded BIOS that allows chipset Voltage control!
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3972
Awesome if it works out for you guys with this mobo!!! :toast:
No report on raised FSBs yet, but the BIOS definitly works at least. :slobber:Quote:
Originally posted by muzz
Awesome if it works out for you guys with this mobo!!! :toast:
Well it will be awesome for ya's if it turns out to help raise the fsb... there are a few guys that can raise theirs without this mod, they may even get better results. :toast:
i downloaded it, didnt flash it yet, i got a history report due friday and i want a working comp untill then :D
I flashed to it. I was at 200 before and I'm still stuck at 200 dual sync:mad:. I have it at 1.8 too...
I am using it now (1.8v). 3dmark still unstable but I can run prime95 at 200fsb which I was unable to do before.
I will test this in a bit... I'm hooking up my pelt to my mobo tonight. Waterproofing it right now (waiting for it to dry).
raising the chip voltage doesn't make any difference.. at least for me :(
Well thats not fun :(. I wonder if the option actually works? Maybe its hidden because its not actually operational atm?
yeah.. maybe.. but lucky ppl who own the 'miracle' board that can run over 200MHz claimed that it works.. 225MHz!
now lets see the what 'Platinum Plus' can do with his a7n8x :D
OOO baby, I can't wait. I'll be doing it today. I had to let the liquid electric tape dry last night, and the fumes got to my head (so I didn't put my pelt on the chipset). I WILL do that today though for sure. :) Gonna shoot for some horrendously high fsb speeds.Quote:
Originally posted by beatnic
yeah.. maybe.. but lucky ppl who own the 'miracle' board that can run over 200MHz claimed that it works.. 225MHz!
now lets see the what 'Platinum Plus' can do with his a7n8x :D
No love for me either:( but since its there, hopefully Asus will open it up in thier future bios release.
i believe epox said they will be adding an option like this, but it requires pcb changes. figures. :rolleyes:
I flashed with this new bios, and also tried the max of 1.8, and it did not give me access to any additional performance FSB multiples. I'm still stuck at 3dMark of 18,201
IMHO the Asus has a disadvantage in relation with the Abit and EPoX Board.It uses the older 2-Phase voltage regulation which isnt so good.Abit and EPoX make some time now use of a 3-Phase VR what is fundamentaly better for overclocking...
But i hope im wrong for you guys ;)
bye
Crozet
I'm gettin confused
I thought that the main problem with overclockin this board was dependant upon which capacitators it had.
i.e - the Nichicon boards being the ones you could heavily increase the FSB, and the Rubycon boards being the ones that become unstable at 200FSB and above.
Is this not entirely correct? I didn't think that bein able to increase coltage on a Rubycon would make any difference.
My board has Rubycons and I'm stable at 190. Not tried to increase voltage or do any other mods until my crystal orb arrives and memory coolin kit.
I'm interested in knowing the score though!
I wonder if the dead A7N8X issue is related to the Rubycon caps dieing..?
Oh no! Please don't say that. I got rubycons. I hadn't heard of any dying, just that they couldn't be pushed as far as the Nichicons. I'll keep a look out. I've only had the board a week so I may try and blag a refund/exchange yetQuote:
Originally posted by STEvil
I wonder if the dead A7N8X issue is related to the Rubycon caps dieing..?
No, plenty Rubicon owners have reported good overclockings, including 220+ MHz.Quote:
Originally posted by Another User
I'm gettin confused
I thought that the main problem with overclockin this board was dependant upon which capacitators it had.
i.e - the Nichicon boards being the ones you could heavily increase the FSB, and the Rubycon boards being the ones that become unstable at 200FSB and above.
Is this not entirely correct? I didn't think that bein able to increase coltage on a Rubycon would make any difference.
My board has Rubycons and I'm stable at 190. Not tried to increase voltage or do any other mods until my crystal orb arrives and memory coolin kit.
I'm interested in knowing the score though!
Does this mod works? I am stuck in 192FSB too. Anyone get any improvement, please post. :confused:
What mod? The capacitor issue is because boards are shipping with different capacitors, but my conclusion is that it doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally posted by CoolLight
Does this mod works? I am stuck in 192FSB too. Anyone get any improvement, please post. :confused:
How can you tell if its a rubycon or nichicon board?
There were pictures posted on another thread of the differences between the two types. Search for them unless someone has the link handy.
I think part of what is generating confusion about the A7N8X board is all the variations of hardware, software, and not having apples to apples comparisons between the various boards and setups regarding what can be done with stated higher FSB adjustments. Most people who are saying they can get to a certain FSB, do not then say what they are actually doing once at that speed. Here is a list of some of the variations that make this confusing (at least for me). I think some who think their board is stuck at a certain FSB do not have the same setups as others getting higher results, but you rarely hear the whole story to know.
- Deluxe vs. Non-Deluxe boards
- Rubicon or Nichicon (supposedly better) voltage regulators on different manufacturing dates of the deluxe boards.
- Various BIOS versions from original 1001-C, then 1001-E, 1001-G, 1002-Beta, 1002-Beta-Uber (custom edited to add in Northbridge chipset voltage adjustment of 1.6, 1.7, 1.8 instead of no adjustment in BIOS where it was fixed at 1.6v)
- Various BIOS settings of RAM timings, voltages, devices disabled,
- Type & amount of RAM
- Type & amount of power supply
- Type of CPU, & if L12 3rd bridge was cut &/or unlocked lower multipliers with various methods(including certain BIOS versions, conductive ink, wire in sockets/pins, using windshield defogger repair kits, etc.).
- Type of Video Card
- Type of HD for main OS
- Types of cooling-air/water/refrigeration of CPU, Northbridge, Video Card chip, FSB, etc.
- Volt modding of memory, Northbridge Chipset, CPU, &/or Video card chip.
- POSTing-Able to Power On Self Test with a given FSB
- Successfully loading into Windows
- Being able to run WCupid or some simple Sandro2003 utilities
- Being able to run a complete 3dMark2001 test
- Being able to run & publish a complete 3dMark2001 score.
Obviously, it's one thing to be able to post with 230+ FSB, and quite another to successfully load windows, and then yet another leap to be able to successfully run a complete 3dMark2001 and have the score published for public verification of the FSB claim.
In my mind, anything short of the last accomplishment is useless on a practical basis. Hearing about a high FSB claim that you cannot verify, and able to run all your demanding games & programs day after day is of no useful value. The most extreme claims are the artificial scores that people get on 3dMark while pouring liquid nitrogen over components to cool them for a few minutes.
That's an interesting experiment, like doing the Mr. Wizard trick of freezing a rubber ball in Liquid Nitrogen and seeing it shatter on the floor. But if you want to actually play ball, you need a rubber ball that bounces well at ambient temperature, and Mr. Wizard can't help with that one.
For example, I can POST up to 228 x 7.0 with no volt mods, using only water cooling of cpu NB Video, have a rubicon model, 256x256x512mb's Corsair XMS3500 ram (5-2-2-2) cpu volt 1.80, bios 1002-beta-uber chip voltage set at 1.7, but cannot get into Windows, so whoop dee doo.
'nuff said
most ppl claimed to achieve 200MHz ++ with the statement 'I can run' but NOT 'I am running'.. yet to see any achievements made with air-cooling and without any voltage mods..
i am all air. i have the uber1002.001 and can do a full pcmark and 3dmark with 211x12. that is as high as i tried last night. but, as you say, i have not gamed yet.
Where is your published 3dMark score result with that FSB?
Your signature link only shows your PC Mark score running a FSB of 185.
I would like to admire your result!
Heres one 100% aircooled no vmod whatsoever
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5628692
Highest fsb achieved to open WCPUID
[IMG]www3.telus.net\luis99\l218[/IMG]
still cant get it to do anything over 200 fsb in 3dmark
it goes in for about 2 seconds and restarts
i got nichion caps too
Yeah that's typical though mrbucket. Also why I wanted to see linkponders PUBLISHED 3dMark result (which I don't expect to see).
i hate to bring this one back, but i'm wondering, has anyone verified the voltages with a DMM?
i don't think this bios actually does anything.
I don't either. I went back to 1002.001 beta, as I'm happy with these scores:
PCMark Score CPU-6,991/Memory-6,105/HDD-1,141
3DMark2001 Score 18,218
Hey one question though still as a noobie. What does the PC Mark tell you (vs. 3dMark2001)? I don't know how to interpret it.
And whoever said the DX-8.1 w/ Catalyst 2.5 (vs. DX 9.0/Catalyst 3.0) on the Radeon9700 would give 3dMark scores 600 points higher, it only had mine go up from 18,151 to 18,218
pcmark appears to benchmark your systems memory, CPU and hard drive. but you knew that. i think it focuses on 2D stuff and office-like stuff.
Yo people
Dunno about you but I'm strugglin to find out exactly where this A7N8X is at. Mikee made some good points earlier in the thread, and cos of this I have decided to start a new thread.
Don't know if anyones gonna pay any attention to it, but it is worth a go. Might be a bit too much to ask, we will have to see.
Anyway, if ya don't mind, point yer browser in direction of my link below. Anything is appreciated
Cheers
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&threadid=8397
It's called A7N8x comparison data pool, and it does exactly what it says on the tin (I hope - eventually)
:toast:
WOW Mik33! :toast:
That's a serious 3DMark score. I hope to get there soon (once the Rev2 Abit NF7-S comes out). I have gotten my 9700 Pro to 387/390 but my FSB is only 189 right now because of the board I'm running.
Rick, thanks but honestly I still really don't know what it means or how to interpret it. Any of you who know me realize I really am just a newbie with this. I just started out wanting to check out the design of a new .Net forum that a friend Andrew designed at OCModshop.com and also had a problem not being able to play BF1942 on my aging Athlon 1.4 in KT-266 non-a A7M266 (POS) mobo.
After talking to Glock who spent a lot of time walking me through various features, I ended up with the Koolance setup I have now. But the idea of trying to solder something to a tiny pin after cutting the L12 3rd bridge seems impossible. I still laugh about how that razor looked like Godzilla through a Mickey Mouse microscope, and movement direction was somehow reversed, so I'm lucky I didn't cut off a vital part doing it.
But I have to admit this has really been a blast learning all I have since then. But I'll never be a DD Tung or Mr Icee or Sysfailur...they are like the Mr. Wizards of all this. LOL
lol, im a liar! roffleQuote:
Originally posted by Mikee
Yeah that's typical though mrbucket. Also why I wanted to see linkponders PUBLISHED 3dMark result (which I don't expect to see).
i will do it tonight then. btw, i dont get great 3dmark cause i only have a g3
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5259916
and, here is an old one from a month ago when my cpu was locked
i don't think anyone said you couldn't run your board at 185MHz fsb. i'd also like to see the 211MHz you claimed.
LOL...it was not really a mean allegation, rather more of what I think is the confusion I spoke about earlier. But here is what you actually said that we are responding to:
I won't comment on your first sentence or whether that is room temperature vs. hot air, but so far you have only given links to a PC Mark on FSB of 185, and now this most recent 3dMark on 184 FSB. Anyone can run 3dMark2001 on those FSB speeds. It is the FSB number above 204 (at any multiple) that we are looking for on the A7N8X Deluxe with any BIOS, and which I still do not expect to see.Quote:
i am all air. i have the uber1002.001 and can do a full pcmark and 3dmark with 211x12. that is as high as i tried last night. but, as you say, i have not gamed yet.
You might have been able to do it with volt modding, but then you would not be on all air if you did that. In any case the best way to always silence the critics is to show some proof to back up your claim. So far there has been none, so continuing to back up your claim with scores that show you with a 184/185 FSB makes you look...ummm....(looking for a diplomatic way to say it so you don't hear something as polariizing as "a liar"...oh I know).....makes you look "foolish."
So show us all up tonight. As I said before, I look forward to seeing your 3dMark2001 published result on air with FSB of 211!!! You will have accomplished something that noone else has, and that would be truly noteworthy.
and i understood. my whole point was that i have a g3 so i cannot get the 18k as he listed. i will add that i can only safely game in ut at around 200fsb. i get random gpfs. sometimes after 10 minutes, sometimes back to back. again, i will see what i can do tonight.
i also pose the question. is it true that what i am reading that the bios does not actually change the vdd whether you set it or not?
and i was not bragging. just more curios than anything. i am selling my older board with rubies because this one with nichs seems to be way more stable.
i will add too, that i did try 212, booted fine, but winblowz explorer locked up my system. i clicked on my e drive to run wcpuid and my system just hung. this did it twice, last thursday when i last tried above 200. anyway, this made me think my pci bus to my adaptec was causing issues. so, i am wondering if anyone has check to ensure the pci is still locked with the modded bios?
You are now changing the discussion into something about the score result which has never been talked about since your claim of running 211FSB. If you cannot game higher than 200 FSB, then how did you run a full 3dMark and PC Mark at 211? We don't care what your scores are, and you will not get as high as mine without a Radeon 9700.
We are claiming that you cannot complete the tests, let alone have them published at that high of a FSB on the A7N8X. If you even start your 3dMark test, it will freeze up probably in the first truck scene at that FSB.
And yes it is most of our opinions that the Uber Bios does not alter the Northbridge voltage. We think it is locked independently of the hidden Uber-BIOS 1002 versions, so apparently only an artificially applied volt mod can increase the voltage (additional cooling needs become obvious if you do that). I have also not yet seen anyone who attached a volt meter to see if there were any changes based sole only on the Uber Bios Northbridge chipset volt adjustment, but I certainly saw no practical performance changes using the newly enabled 1.8 vs. the default (previously hidden) 1.6v. That was why I changed back to the ASUS Bios 1002.001 version. Other problems have been reported with the ASUS 1002.003 & .004 versions.
I am able to POST (Power On Self Test) up to 227 or 228 (x7), but cannot get into Windows, so it doesn't mean anything. I forget how high I can FSB and get into Windows 2000 (I think it was 217-219), but that also doesn't mean anything. If you freeze upon opening your Winblows Explorer at 217/218 that is what we are trying to sort out as useless FSB claims vs. something useful and stable.
This FSB limitation (without volt modding) of the A7N8X is still not as bad as it might look, even when compared to the Abit or Epox NF2 boards, because look at my 3dMark & PC Mark scores (admittedly with Koolance water cooling).
So far, if I can make it through and get a published 3dMark score (& without "tearing/streaking artifact flashes") I have then been able to play BF1942 and use my PC for anything else, which is what most of us are really interested in knowing.
Edit: Your last post about the PCI/AGP bus, the PCI is still locked independant of the BIOS at 33MHz, and you can use the BIOS adjustment for AGP speeds, but most leave it on Auto (66 MHz) so as to not overwhelm their AGP Video Card when OC'ing.
ok, i get what you are saying now m8. i am clear on it now. sorry. i am working and juggling. ok, lemme see what i can get it up to, fully completed test and published. lol. i was being defensive it the fact of the scores. >: )
and, i saw no more changes in the bios either. the cut seemed to be the only improver for me.
i don't think the bios controlls the PCI speed. from what i've read, it's locked at 33MHz by the Nforce2 chipset.
and i'd like someone running this VDD modded bios to check the voltage with a DMM. don't any of you guys have a DMM, or live near Portland, OR? hell i'd come over and check it with my DMM. ;)
I have checked it with a voltmeter, the UBER bios does not change the VDD voltage... set it to 1.8V and measured, got 1.58V, same as with the stock bois'...Quote:
Originally posted by felix88
i don't think the bios controlls the PCI speed. from what i've read, it's locked at 33MHz by the Nforce2 chipset.
and i'd like someone running this VDD modded bios to check the voltage with a DMM. don't any of you guys have a DMM, or live near Portland, OR? hell i'd come over and check it with my DMM. ;)
hmm, thats what i figured.
from what i've been reading Epox has to add a trace to the PCB to allow for a VDD adjustment. hopefully the new revision comes out soon.
Hi all, first post :)
My board is still avaiting vmods, but did som tests tonight.
Stock, no ekstra kooling and org tim on NB I can run 3DMark at 202 fsb.
Applied AS2 on NB, still no ekstra kooling, 204.
Dont know if they are submittable though.
Have Ruby caps and system spec as follows:
TSP 520 psu
A7N8X Deluxe
AXP 2400+ AIUGB 0244
Sapphire 9500->9700
2x256 Twinmos w/Winbond bh-5
This will eventually go into my Vapo when vmods are done.
Thanks Nik...that answers a big question many have had.Quote:
I have checked it with a voltmeter, the UBER bios does not change the VDD voltage... set it to 1.8V and measured, got 1.58V, same as with the stock bois'...
Sniper, Welcome and thanks for your post all the way from beautiful Norway!!! Without your result being published, there is no way to verify your claims. What version of BIOS & other settings are you using? Also what RAM?
To get it published all you have to do is click on the "Go Onlline" button, and if there is a "Publish" box under your submission, put a checkmark there and click "Update."
bummer, with that said, has Dem checked the 1001c bios tweak
to see if it just happens to be omitted code in the new betas?
well, must be a liar. i had tried the other ubers and cant remember which i had. i think 001 so i flashed it. i cant get 12 multi to run pcmark and have not gotten 3dmark to not blue screen.
so far, 211x11.5 is only pcmark i can get and still tweaking to get 3dmark to complete. i get blank screens that seem to be looong pauses.
so, since i cannot prove it at this time, i eat my words.
so, here is pcmark:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm=1029322
so, :smileysex me
well, here is a sandra i had done for mem
and a cpu
Don't believe this, what a freekin nightmare
I was runnin 1002.001, rubycons, vcore 1.8V @ 200X11.5 - 6,3,3,2T with GF4 overclocked since release of beta a week ago or so. MUST have restarted the comp a thousand times and no problems..........not one!. Ran loads n loads of benchmarks, such as 3d, pcbench, all sisoft and it crunched through em all spittin out results higher than I had ever anticipated. Rock solid stable it was, and consistant. Could leave on 24/7 and it crunched seti workunits etc like they weren't there.
I thought everythin was good.......................but
For no reason (and I mean no reason, I altered no settings once I had the setup described above - I PROMISE!), my system has started to fail left right and centre
To start with, every time I boot, the post lady tells me I have failed the memory test. The pc continues to boot but she bugs like mad. With FSB set to 200, most of my benchmark progs and the loading dos screen when booting tells me I'm runnin at 199 - this also bugs me.
I get crashed out of windows every time I use. 3D bench and UT2K3 don't stand a chance. I've downspecced back to 190FSB and set GF4 to standard clockings. The performance at these settings is now much less than it was when I had 190FSB before increasing to 200 (if you know what I mean).
I'm gettin a bit hacked off.
I've done no volt mods by the way.
I flashed bios again last night to same as before (1002.001), just incase there was something corrupted within the version I had installed. Nope, same problems - DOH
Gettin a bit miffed at this board now! Wish I'd never got one at the moment. Why oh why is it trying to kill me?
Anyone else experienced similar scenarios?
:confused:
:EDIT: - PC is supercooled. Got a Vapochill Pe, crystal orb on Northbridge and GF4. Active memory coolin kit in 2 x 512mb XMS pc3200. A couple of 120mm inlet outlet case fans. Things are cold in there so I would be really surprised if overheatin was the problem - so I don't think it is.
I'll try to copy the 3DMark result file to my main comp and submit it tonight. The ram is as stated Twinmos PC3200 with Winbond BH-5 chips, running 4-2-2-2T @204, 2.8v. Bios 1002.001. Sandra scores are like 3100/2980 I think.
As for you believing my claims, I don’t see what a submitted 3DMark score can do. I could be running with vmods and watercooled NB ++ ;)
I bought 2 A7N8X, the other one was only capable of 180-185 so I sold it. Asus (or NVidia) must be having some issues with quality control as I don’t remember any other mobo with such big differences in performance. Seeing as the Epox 8RDA users also complain about problems reaching 200+ I think maybe NVidia has some trouble with yields.
Sniper, don't get all honked off...there has just been a lot of inflated claims with no backing thrown around and leading to a lot of confusion and misinformation. Yeah you could do a volt mod and we wouldn't know...that would be pretty silly given that we are all trying to figure this out together.
Hey Another, you probably already did this, and I hope it is not a major problem, but also make sure you cleared the CMOS with the battery removal, move jumper over and back before replacing battery just to be sure. I don't like the sound of that situation though.
Cheers for the advise Mikee but already tried that one, forgot to mention it in my post. I'm gutted at the moment. I'm hoping everthin will be ok in the end, cos I've got no money left. Before buildin my spec PC, I read reviews and forum threads for info on all products I got. I heard nothing but rave reviews about this board and thus far it's giving me nothing but bother. First I find out I've got the rubycons and then all this. I hate it when these kinda problems emerge after you have bought somethin. It's always the wayQuote:
Originally posted by Mikee
Sniper, don't get all honked off...there has just been a lot of inflated claims with no backing thrown around and leading to a lot of confusion and misinformation. Yeah you could do a volt mod and we wouldn't know...that would be pretty silly given that we are all trying to figure this out together.
Hey Another, you probably already did this, and I hope it is not a major problem, but also make sure you cleared the CMOS with the battery removal, move jumper over and back before replacing battery just to be sure. I don't like the sound of that situation though.
Hay ho
It's not much consolation, but I personally don't think the rubycons make a lot of difference in practical use. look at my test scores.
If you back down to 190 and standard Video settings, and it is running without the errors, then I would start leaning towards a cooling problem with conductive paste not applied well. Can you use that new MBM to see what your cpu die temps are to know?
I can't think of anything else that would allow you to run ok at 190, but not at 200. I'm keeping mine at about 197x11.5 or 11.0 even with water cooling applied AS-3 to all contact surfaces.
Do you have good power supply and running it out of a good battery UPS to condition the current and prevent spikes?
I'm not, there was a smily at the end ;)Quote:
Sniper, don't get all honked off...
And yes, i appreciate theese efforts, thats why I contributed with my own experiences.
I get zero overlock improvement by increasing VDD in the bios... I'm going to rig something up to measure the VDD voltage to see if it even works.
I noticed that nobody mentioned one other cool hidden bios option... you can change the MAC address on your onboard NIC. I used modbin6 to edit my bios (since I could find an "Uber" version for the non-deluxe a7n8x). I enabled the options for changing the MAC address and it worked fine... now, if I only had a reason to want to change my MAC address.....
If anybody wants my modded bios let me know, I've modded the 1002 Beta 004 bios to include the VDD option and the MAC Address option...
And regarding high fsb and 3dmark, here's a 12K run using a GF3 Ti500 at 214FSB... on my old A7N8X which almost started on fire after using it for less than a week. New board won't go much past 181FSB...
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5601030
LOL...that's a great visual. You had to RMA that old one? Nice OC! What volt mods did you have set up for that? I still can't imagine trying to solder onto such tiny wires and pins to do a volt mod.Quote:
...on my old A7N8X which almost started on fire after using it for less than a week
One other thing I have been reading is the 1002.004 BIOS has not been well regarded in terms of bugs and problems. I'm still using the .001 which is great by me.
Where is everyone getting their A7N8X's that are so easy to RMA? I would think they would make it hard to RMA. I noticed a long list of exclusionary rules at NewEgg where I got mine...but so far, so good.
lol, now that is funny! ok, my update after dinking last night is that 211x11 and up is giving me nv*.sys BSODs. I was kooking pretty good after tweaking last week. When Mikee put me on the spot ;), I tried getting the orbs online. Well, now I am getting harsh screen flickers in winblows (seems like minute pauses) and random BSOD when running 3dmark. Is this a vid issue? I think I set my noose when going from uber001 to uber003/004. Since those, I have had all types of hell. I can still run stable at 200x12, but as that doesn't impress me (anymore).
Link, welcome to the club. I think it is a chipset limitation, because I don't think even the other boards that OC better like the Epox have had high FSB on a completed 3dMark2001 test. In fact, shortcircuit's might be the highest FSB I have seen so far that is published.
I think you should be VERY happy with running 200x12 stable. There is really no program that is gonna come close to using that much power right now. And 2400 MHz is a far cry above the default that my 2700 comes with (13x166=2158)
I personally do better in demanding games like BF1942 with 198x11.5 which I also have to use for a better 3dMark score since I OC the Radeon. If I go up to 200FSB and OC the Radeon much, there is too much artifact defects, and the score plummets.
Hey also, I have read problems with the .004 version in several threads here and in other forums. If you need the 1002.001 deluxe, I'll be glad to send it to you (or anyone).
My last board had the 1002.001 bios on it, by the time I got the new board they had removed it from their site and replaced it with the 1002.004 bios.
If anybody(Mikee) has a copy of the 1002.001 bios for non-deluxe boards, please post it or PM me!! Maybe that is why I am having so many problems with this board.
Mikee, I returned the board to the shop where I bought it, ASUS probably wouldn't have replaced it. I had only done the vcore mod and lapped the NB...
Yes, my first board was stable 12 hours then died. DIED. RMAd it.Quote:
Originally posted by Another User
Don't believe this, what a freekin nightmare
(yada yada yada...)
Anyone else experienced similar scenarios?
My second board has always had the problem you describe, but worse. I seldom boot anything but 100 MHz FSB etc etc. It seems you have also been struck by the problems a lot of A7N8X users have, often causing RMA. Tonight I hope to have a replacement BIOS chip, if it helps I will post here, if not I've got the RMA approved already.
please don't flame me. I'm knew to this business. What does RMA mean? I hear it all over the place.
Hope you get success from tryin a new bios chip pjotr. Please post back with your results - thanx
RMA = return material authorization. What you have to get from a vendor before you return something that you have toasted :D
LMAO....I loved the part where you said so innocently: "I had only done the vcore mod and lapped the NB"Quote:
Mikee, I returned the board to the shop where I bought it, ASUS probably wouldn't have replaced it. I had only done the vcore mod and lapped the NB...
It's a good thing the girl at the store probably didn't know the difference between the silicone on the mobo and the silicone in her bra. LMAO :smileysex
I wonder what happens when retail stores try to retun mobo's that have evidence of OC'ing to whoever they return them to, that actually have people who know what to look for.
Bolstered by the RMA question (which at one time I didn't know what that meant either)....what does "lapped the Northbridge" mean? I'm guessing putting on a new cooling fan/HS or maybe you mean you volt modded it. But don't you volt mod the CPU or RAM as a first step?
Guys I don't know about you
but I'm having some problems myself
I can get the following working
xp2400 10.0x @200
but I can't get the memory past 150 grrrrrrrrrr
ergo 75 %
in sync I can get it to 166x12 but I wanted 200x 10.0 grr
two corsair xms 3500 modules c2 grrr and not working grrrrr
help
terramir
I'm running the beta bios myself
the 1002.001 and I'm not having a chance to get more grrrr
:mad:
Mikee, it's easy as pie to RMA things to newegg. I've RMA'ed the same gf4 4600 like 5 times :P
Btw, I'm having lots of probs on my A7N8X (although I did get it up to 240mhz in post... W/O the chipset vmod)... ?!
Another User,
I am having that problem as we speak w/ the post lady telling me that my system memory fails. The only way I'm getting back into my bios is if I do some crazy power and and off and bios erasing. I'm gonna try putting a bios back into it that might work better, the beta 001. Since that's what everyone seems to be having luck with.
I'm sure if I fiddle with it enough I'll get it to work.
from what i have read, and don't quote me on this, is that the error has existed all along, but only now, with the 1002.xxx bioses, is it that the voice output has been activated. again, not sure, just what i read. either way, i ignore the message because i know me mem is fine.
Yeah I solved the problem by turning off the voice, but am only using 1002.001 now. I didn't get a copy of the non-deluxe for who is looking for it.
1001C Bios is all you need.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5734604
Yes, every bios version shows a post error of 25. It's a notice failure, not a stop failure. It seems the betas don't have Betty turned off the way the final releases are.Quote:
Originally posted by linkponder
from what i have read, and don't quote me on this, is that the error has existed all along, but only now, with the 1002.xxx bioses, is it that the voice output has been activated. again, not sure, just what i read. either way, i ignore the message because i know me mem is fine.
what betty doesn't work :(
I never tried her but that is a bummer :(
LOL
terramir
Hi, here is one at 210, stock board. It's only prime95 and 3dmark friendly though, games no like.Quote:
Originally posted by Mikee
Yeah that's typical though mrbucket. Also why I wanted to see linkponders PUBLISHED 3dMark result (which I don't expect to see).
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5572599
OK, fair enough...and good to see. What is your setup, in particular anything unusual like volt modding, water cooling, etc. Did you OC your Radeon at all? Thanks for the info.
Nothing other than bios settings, I actually run my fans slower than usual to make the machine quiet. Too bad QFan doesn't work, I am using those zalman resister jobs and they get quite hot.
Basica case, 2 12cm fans, one at front and back, going at 2000rpms or thereabouts, regular thermalright ax7 with 80mm fan at 2000rpms. No volt mods.
I generally overclock the card to 378/344 for benchmarking 3dmark, I tend to leave it at stock otherwise.
My highest score is 17K at 200Mhz fsb, do a search on my email address there. 16.9 / 17K seems about where my system is at without going to exotic methods.
2GHz, 200fsb
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5673340