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so.. after just having an epic battle with my 146 opteron IHS.. it now looks like this:...
http://home.comcast.net/~ogrex/imamoron.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~ogrex/poorthing.JPG
now there is metal showing where the green used to be...
think it's still safe to try? or did I kill another one?
(..tried to use a screwdriver to get some leverage to finish popping it off *mummbles somethingorother about a certain video*)
time to get drunk in mourning..(just in case)
Ouch that looks kind of bad. I cut the substrate on mine a tiny bit and look how it clocks! Give it a shot and hope it works :) Best of luck!
Only way is to test it. I slightly chipped 2 resistors and was about to throw it in the bin lol (Venice 3200+) but my brother stopped me. :D
anymore opinions before I try putting it back in? thinking of sticking some electrical tape on that corner.. should be ok to use right?
it should be fine what you see is the ground plane. assuming you didnt connect it to any traces under it it will boot up fine.
just give it a little clean up ...and chuck it back in. i think i'll work, it doesn't seem you damaged the core or resistors.
I had a 3000 venice (my first IHS removal) that I shaved off most of the little ic's and chipped the core and it oc'd like mad. The chip looked like a dog chewed on it. Go figure:) Just pop it in and see what it does you might be ok it doesnt look too bad.
well, it seems to be deaded :(
power button = no go..
at least it didn't catch on fire I guess..
bye-bye 3ghz land.
oh man sorry to hear that! ******moment of silence for the dead chip**********
*solemnly plays taps on his trumpet*
sorry to hear that...
I recommend not using a screwdriver in the future. Sorry about the CPU.
ALL u should EVER need for IHS removal is 2 hands, a peice of sponge foam, and a single sided razor blade, 1 side sharp, other side protected. If you cannot get it off with this, keep going slowly until you can get it off. Think of it as surgery, not cutting into a steak as fast as possible to wolf it down (althogh, it's quite tasty).
it's alive!..
so.. I was browsing the forums on my sister's pos comp.. came across this thread.. after seeing ben805's phase change insulation method in his pics.. figured at this point... "hmm, worth a try":
http://home.comcast.net/~ogrex/iliveagain.JPG
guess maybe the waterblock was shorting out the resistors?..
or I just got really lucky..
could always blow up still I guess.. but at least I'm posting from it again..
now to get back to 3ghz and test it..
Awesome news!!!! When it booted up for the first time bet you were over the moon!!! :)
I genuinely felt regret and compasion hearing the first part about the CPU being dead, but least it's all back to normal :)
Pressing down on the insulation may have psudeo-reconnected one of the copper traces that had been cut?
WOOOOT very nice! I am really glad you didnt kill it! Congrats
Thanks for all the replies.
just played some bf2 back at 3ghz.. all seems well with the cosmos there..
but.. temps...
after some prime95 testing.. my temps are EXACTLY the same. . .(35c idle 51c load.. I think it's safe to say I got :owned: )
so.. now I'm kinda worrying about the electrical tape melting/catching on fire..(think I have been smelling something weird actually. . .)
Anyone know what temps electrical tape melts/spontaneously combusts at btw?
I agree completely with this if you do plan to remove a ihs... if your razorblade is more than a thumbnail thick.. don't even try it.. X-acto knife also = a big no.. I ended up using the metal peice from a floppy disk to do most of my "cutting" which also worked pretty well at cutting fingers... but yeah..Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
NO screwdrivers...
although at this point.. after my results.. for some strange reason imo I'd have to say to anyone thinking about removing their's:
FOR THE LOVE OF "insertwhateveryouneedtohere" DON'T DO IT!
i used a blade from a disposible razor it was flimsy enought to bend as needed and weak enough not to break any caps off. worked great.
is electrical tape safe at 51c?.. can't find any info..
kinda feel like I have a timebomb for a computer atm
I was pretty happy actually.. I went and hugged my sister.. instead of punching her in the head.. which is quite strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nights Dawn
maybe now the cpu is unlocked :D
try it....maybe you connected some magic traces ;)
mfg
just checked still locked at 10x..Quote:
Originally Posted by killingspreez
but people! electrical tape + 51c = safe??
made by 3m if that helps..
shorting out without turning on = fine.. if it shorts with the power on... I don't think it'll be fine :stick:
The tape should be fine. Have fun with it!
you should back that tape off the core. maybe take it back to the resistor row or maybe even just past the resistors so they can breath.
better yet, try covering just the one damaged corner with the elec. tape.
I did try just patching the corner first.. didn't post.. I seriously think the waterblock was shorting out the resistors.. somehowQuote:
Originally Posted by scarface
Quote:
Originally Posted by OgreX
The worn out electrical tape on my Opteron has been through many heatsink and evaporator remounts and so far they hold up just fine, I've been using the same method to protect those little ICs and to prevent chipped core on all my naked chips in the past and found no problem, but after 6 months or so I'd replace them just for the hell of it. But in your case, since the trace is exposed if I were you I would use nail polish to coat the damaged surface, after the polish dried then put the electrical tape back on, the black tape survived 60'C for few months when I had the 3700 SD with XP-90 awhile back :D :D
Yea...Nail polish or conformal coating. Also has the benefit of building up a waterproof layer for when u feel the need to put it under phase/DI/LN etc :)
Glad to hear its working..got sadder as the thread went on then happy again! :)
yeah, just to add... noone should ever pry up an IHS, when the RTV has been successfully CUT, the IHS will FALL off. Start in the corners, then cut lightly in circles til the IHS falls off... maybe 20 minutes :(
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so.. I'm finally planning on volt modding/adding my gtx to the water loop which means taking off the cpu block.. so now I'm wondering:
Is *any* kind of nail polish safe to use?
I may just keep the tape if it's lookin ok.. but i think it's why my cpu temps didn't drop at All somehow...
*edit* was doing some prime95 testing tonight and somehow my temps are 33idle and 41 load now... maybe the as5 had to "set in" almost-kinda worth it now... maybe some of the tape warped and it can breathe now? guess we'll see if i ever vmod...slacker is me.
*edit #2* just incase anyone reads this shtuff.. finally tried the vmod and removed the cpu block.. tape looked the same so.. looks like it was just the as5 needing to "set in" to blame for the 10-11c drop in temps...
Of course it's safe. I use normal duct tape, and didn't had a problemQuote:
Originally Posted by OgreX
The thing is, you should only have it on top of the resistors, and not so close to the core. The resistors a lot more far.
Sometimes i forgot to turn my water pump on, and the water surelly passed 80ºC sometimes, more than once, everything is still fine.
I haven't the cpu much clocked yet so it olds the system stable with such high temps.
i'm gonna guess that it's wise to stay away from metallic/glittery nail polish :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OgreX
well, I am trying to revive my 148 so I was wondering if you could tell me exactly what u did to ur cpu? Its still unclear to me.
well, I am trying to revive my 148 so I was wondering if you could tell me exactly what u did to ur cpu? Its still unclear to me.
all I did to get it working again was stick electrical tape over everything.. and boom back to 3ghz heaven(still haven't tried higher)..Quote:
Originally Posted by madgravity34
but what exactly is wrong with your chip? did it just die or this kinda damage?..