Enermax Liberty 500W

hi guys, here I am trying to show you the new product coming from Enermax.
Let's start with some pics.

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty001.jpg

It arrives in a carton box, and all the infos are written outside as usual.
But let's open and see what's inside.

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty002.jpg

from the left: power chord, manual, power supply (w/o cables), and a misterious black thing....:D:D

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty003.jpg

Inside we find all the cable collection...according to the news tendences, the cables are not connected to the power supply, but user can connect them when necessary.
And that's all a gift for a good lookin and well ordered case !!

2x power supply for PCI-x cards

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty004.jpg

2xcable as follow
2 x molex
2 x S-ata
1x Floppy

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty005.jpg

2x cable as follow
2 x molex
2 x S-ata

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty006.jpg

A detail of the connector: ATX24 pin is a composite connector = 20 + 4 pins.
Then there's a tachimetric connector for the fan, and a dual +12 v (2x 4pin)

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty007.jpg

Let's take a look at the power supply itself: as in most modern models, we just have a single big fan...

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty010.jpg

and a "opened" backplate for air extraction

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty008.jpg

In the front part....all the female connections for the cable described above

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty012.jpg

and here we look at the nominal datas:

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...liberty011.jpg

Platform for tests:

AMD sandiego 3700+ @ 2700 mhz
Full Air Cooling with Thermalright Xp90-C + Enermax fan da 92 mm
DFI nf4 SLi-D
2x80 Gb Seagate 7200.7
DVD reader
2x6600 Gt SLI

Let's start, looking ath the BIOS screen compared with my digital multimeter:
There's a certain difference ....but all the values are above nominal value:

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...t/BIOS_33v.jpg

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...st/BIOS_5v.jpg

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...t/BIOS_12v.jpg

Next step: a comparison with Smartguardian tool in Win:

We still get errors between mobo's readings and multimeter, but still very good values.

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...est/Win_5v.jpg

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...st/Win_12v.jpg

Let's get under stress:

Here's a prime95 session @ 2700 mhz, while I'm doing all my silly things.....chat, mails...and so on...:)

here the values:

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images.../Prime_33v.jpg

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images...t/Prime_5v.jpg

http://forum.overclocklab.net/images.../Prime_12v.jpg

we just measure a little reduction on +5 but Liberty 500 still shows he's always over the nominal values...

I relly wanted to stress a "medium" system, so only 2x80 gb HDD and a DVD reader, but with 2 VGA cards and a 1.55 vcored overclock

For sure we can think of any overstressing tests, but a prime working on 100% on CPU and a normal use of the PC in the same time is really more of what a normal user could do any day.

PSU is really good IMHO, withous any voltage reductiion and anyway never under nominal values.
in the past, one at least of the 3 values could be "under"...not now..;)

I started this test thinking of a PSU more oriented for guys loving nice to see case.....rather than overclock oriented config.
But I have to contraddict myself......we surely don't have any trimmer for pumpin up voltages....Enermax is solid and conservative in this choice.
But..who needs to pump up...if the values are already good ????

I'm really satisfied of this PSU....very low noise, very ordered case w/o too many cables.......

My great thnxs goes to Maria Rosa and Desiree of Enermax for having sent me the sample you see....
;)

WOW...Nice !!!

Thx for Sharing that w/ us CapFTP :up: Good to know Enermax is back at making some good quality PSUs after the noisetaker series :up:

Excellent stuff :)

Perkam

Great review CapFTP :clap:

This is perfect. I was just thinking about getting a new PSU and this one caught my eye. I was just comming here to see if anyone has one and guess what the first thing I see is...

Thanks

happy that you like it
;)

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

This is perfect. I was just thinking about getting a new PSU and this one caught my eye. I was just comming here to see if anyone has one and guess what the first thing I see is...

Thanks

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Some earlier tests from me with the same 500W version. ;)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=28


Nice review CapFTP. Thanks for sharing the results and thoughts.

Well done CapFTP!...I`m more interesting in the 620W one...but can`t find any in shops here :(

Regards,
Primoz

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Originally Posted by Primoz78

Well done CapFTP!...I`m more interesting in the 620W one...but can`t find any in shops here :(

Regards,
Primoz

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I to am looking for the 620 one. Would be nice to see a review of that one
But anyway thanks for the info :toast:

Enermax Liberty 620W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Supply+for+Cas

Enermax Liberty 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817194003

And something else I found out :D

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Originally Posted by AACDirect

412W with a stock FX55, Stock cards, One GB of ram stock, One HD and integrated audio. Add a couple HD's, 2GB ram, OC everything. You are on the edge. You might get away with it. I know a Antec NEO 480 will not run it. I tried more than one. A NEO will run a SLI 256MB OC'd, FX57 @ 3GHz,2GB of ram @ 500MHZ, 2 raptors and 1 seagate. I added the 512MB cards stock and the system was very unstable. (It did run a single 512MB card fine.) I went to a 620 Enermax Liberty. (We use modular supplies for looks as the case is acrylic.) These cards draw 22A from the 12V line per card so if your PSU is rated for that you should be fine. All I am saying is that if you have the $$$ for two 512MB cards speed the little extra and buy a 550+ Watt PSU to give your self a little headroom.

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It seems even the Enermax Liberty 500W should be able to handle that :eek:

Perkam

sounds nice Im looking more in the price range of around 80ish what would you recomend in that price range?
I have a fort 530 that I will be replacing, so hopefully it can run more stable rails that my aging fort 530

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Originally Posted by perkam

It seems even the Enermax Liberty 500W should be able to handle that :eek:

Perkam

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mh....I'll try asap (i hope) with 2x7800 gtx 512 megs SLI....perhaps a good 3700+ clocked and some more...

We'll check..:D

Philosphy...For $80, there's no better PSU ;) :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817101509

CapFTP, that'd be great if you could test it thoroughly with the GTXs and FX-57s :) A real treat for members here. :up:

Perkam

I have the Tagan 2Force 480w SLi, similar to that, more $ tho. I love it. :D

tagan == ocz == good. :D

The big brother also good..

http://img234.exs.cx/img234/2904/en6px1om.jpg

@capFTP...nice review :toast:

Whoa !!! Which PSU is that Dumo !!!

Perkam

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Originally Posted by perkam

Whoa !!! Which PSU is that Dumo !!!

Perkam

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Heres...http://www.enermaxusa.com/catalog/pr...products_id=68

and this...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...C-pr1c3grabb3r

Heres with zippy and antec...

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4907/psus10qv.jpg

LOL...have to check if it fits in my dining room.....

:nono:

Nice review

So does that Enermax actually beast PCP&C? lmfao, sure looks it :slobber:

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Originally Posted by NickS

So does that Enermax actually beast PCP&C? lmfao, sure looks it :slobber:

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Very big quality difference between Enermax and PCP&C ... Though Enermax/Antec have that rails thing on the nose...with Antec offering up to 3 rails and Enermax offering up to four 12v rails.

Perkam

Nice review :toast:

Great Review, this was just the kind of PS I was looking for. Those 22A rails are calling my name...

What about the voltage rails when you play games?

Few days ago I bought Tagan EasyCon 530W (:stick: :stick: needed a PSU urgently and would have to wait for Liberty for ~10 days) and while OCCT shows stable 12v rail at ~12.01v, as soon as I set up a game like Serious sam 2 the 12v rail drops to 11.88v (this is im MBM). Later today I hope I can chack the rails with a DMM

Also, could you be so kind and please post some pictures as how the 3.3v rail voltage is measures; 12v and 5v rails are measured from molex, what about 3.3v? ATX connector?

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Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer

tagan == ocz == good. :D

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tagan= bequiet =ocz= tsp = some more stuff= topower, ok it's defently good stuff, but th p5 serie has a problem with the -5volt lain. if you try to have a fully load on it, the psu will break down ..., that the reason why my ocz powerstream 520watt was in rma. can't wait to see the next generatopn of topower psu's thow. hope there won't be the problem with the -5volt lain. but in germayy the only p6 serie psu that is avaible ist from be quiet and i don't like be quiet psu's because there pretty hot in compartion to tsp and ocz.

I just want to add that I have the liberty 500watt and Im very happy with it.

Running a dualcore opteron 165 overclocked with 1.55vcore, Geil ONE W BH memory running at 3.52vdimm, 2x 7800GTX in SLI, 2 hitachi T7k250's and 2 400gb RE hdd's, everything seems to run rather well.

Two thumbs up from me. I was going to just get a 400watt, thank god it was out of stock.

Cheapest place I saw was zipzoomfly, and that included free 2nd day air. A total bargin :)

https://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produ...uctCode=270341
(though they did raise the price by 3 dollars, it was 115 when I picked it up)

The 620watt looks awesome, but at a 100 dollar premium over the 400 watt... I dont know, but I am glad i got the 500 with all the power hungry things I have. If my 500watt does everything that it does, I cant possibly see what a 620 watt would do for me. The power supply is always ice cold and the 120mm fan never spins faster than 1000rpm.

*shrug* I have always had the best luck with enermax.

Enermax and Power PC and cooling are my favorites!



I was rather worried about the modular plug design, but it seems very sturdy. Thick pins with tight connections, i see no issue or power problems, but what do I know.

My voltage is dead on, it is stable. I am a happy guy. Maybe if I had two 7800gtx 512's I would pop for the 620, but I aint that rich lol.




Edit:

My only HUGE issue with this power supply is the STUPID 5 wire and 4 wire molex power connectors that are RIGHT next to eachother.

Enermax says this gives users choice, but it is REALLY annoying. The wires get in the way. I wish they would have just included more cables since there are left over plugs on the power supply anyway.

That is by far the biggest downfall of this PSU. On my model btw, the 24pin motherboard connector was just one connector, not two as pictured by review.


It is hard to imagine that I have had this powersupply for about a month now. I purchased on 11/14 and still running perfect.

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Originally Posted by irev210

I just want to add that I have the liberty 500watt and Im very happy with it.

Running a dualcore opteron 165 overclocked with 1.55vcore, Geil ONE W BH memory running at 3.52vdimm, 2x 7800GTX in SLI, 2 hitachi T7k250's and 2 400gb RE hdd's, everything seems to run rather well.

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Does the voltages drop when you play games? I just bought Tagan EasyCon 580W (xchanges it for 530W because it was quieter) and the 12v rail drops significantly when gaming, otherwise at OCCT test it is stable.

Can you ran OCCT and post graphs. Also, is the Enermax
quiet? On Monday I'm returning Tagan and I will wait
for the 500W Liberty (as was originally planned:slapass: :slapass: )

The enermax liberty has a 120mm fan that spins at around 950rpm, it is extremely quiet.


i am currently using the liberty on another rig, but as soon as I finish up I will be more than happy to do some benchmarks.

Looking forward to it irev :)

:banana:

Perkam

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Originally Posted by Bladesinger7x

Does the voltages drop when you play games? I just bought Tagan EasyCon 580W (xchanges it for 530W because it was quieter) and the 12v rail drops significantly when gaming, otherwise at OCCT test it is stable.

Can you ran OCCT and post graphs. Also, is the Enermax
quiet? On Monday I'm returning Tagan and I will wait
for the 500W Liberty (as was originally planned:slapass: :slapass: )

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Hi

Im using a tagan easycon 480Watt.

Speedfan and bios everything reports low voltrails under load, like 11.60 on the +12V line, but when I measure with my multimeter lowest I ever saw was 11.86 :slap:

Measure your psu with a multimeter:)

I have the Tagan 2Force 480w SLi (w/ the switch that allows either single rail or dual rail). you do know that u can get much better than 11.86. i used to get around that load. now it never drops below 12.10. read it in the xtreme mods section, relitively easy :D

Here is my system (a REAL power hog)

DFI EXPERT

AMD Opteron 165 overclocked to 2.7gighz @ 1.53Vcore
GEIL ONE W (BH) at 3.42Vdimm
two 7800GTX's in SLI mode
two 7200 RPM HDD's (used to have four, only two atm)
Um, I think that is everything.


Okay, just tested my Enermax with OCCT

3.3V

Ripple: 0.00 0.06%

5V

Ripple: 0.03 0.53%

12V

Ripple: 0.07 0.53%

Core voltage

ripple: 0.01 0.49%


I have no idea how good this is, but seems decent i guess.


Okay, wow, i just ran 3D05+OCCT

That gave the 12V rails a workout.

The 12V rail would dip from 12.4V to 12.3V when the dual 7800GTX's kicked in on 3D05

Ripple: 0.13 or 1.06%


When I post the graph, you can see every hump when I wasnt runnin 3D05.

Core voltage was pretty good, Ripple: 0.01 or 0.62%, no spikes, nothing radical

3.3V rail was perfectly steady at 3.345, which isnt bad I guess.

Ripple: 0.02 or 0.48%

The 5V rail seemed to move around the most. Sits between 5.04 and 5.055 for the most part cept with the test starts and ends it is at 5.075.

Ripple: 0.04 or 0.78%


Here are the pictures-

http://www.importjdm.com/2005-12-11-01h30-CaseGraph.png
http://www.importjdm.com/2005-12-11-01h30-CPUGraph.png
http://www.importjdm.com/2005-12-11-01h30-Volt12.png
http://www.importjdm.com/2005-12-11-01h30-Volt3.png
http://www.importjdm.com/2005-12-11-01h30-Volt5.png
http://www.importjdm.com/2005-12-11-01h30-VoltCore.png


My questions, How would a PP&C 510watt SLI power supply do? Those are supposed to be top notch, any graphs on that?

Hmmm, from so many Liberty reviews I expected a little straigther rails from Liberty. Something like this from Seasonic - http://www.slo-tech.com/script/forum...90680&mesto=49
(sorry, this is all in slovene, but the graphs are universal:D :D ).

This are the graphs from my Tagan EasyCon 530W with Venice 3000+@2745,
however, is seems thet my boared has issues when FSB is over 300.

http://www.shrani.si/pics/2005-12-171199.gif

http://www.shrani.si/pics/2005-12-171200.gif

http://www.shrani.si/pics/2005-12-171201.gif

http://www.shrani.si/pics/2005-12-171202.gif

http://www.shrani.si/pics/2005-12-171203.gif

http://www.shrani.si/pics/2005-12-171204.gif

I think thet for the time being I will stick with Tagan, returning it and waiting for Enermax seems to much trouble for a minor gain. No local store has info whether Liberty will even be available, ufff Slovene computer stores:stick: :stick: :stick: :stick: )

irev210, thank you so much:toast: :toast: :clap: :clap:

Yah, the tagan doesnt seem bad.

I wish you had some 7800GT or GTX's to really go wild on the 12v rail.

I am tempted to take out the 7800gtx's to see how big of a factor those cards play.


That is a really steady Vcore. I dunno, maybe the enermax liberty is overrated.


Regardless, I am happy with a powersupply that can run all the garbage I got for 115 bucks delivered. I hope I can figure out some tricks to get things a little more consistant.

Yeah, I would also like to get a GTX (or even GTX SLI), but no money...
also it would be a waste, as I mainly play FRP games, and only occasionally
FPS.

Best regards,
Saso

p.s. I do not think that Enermax is overrated, IMHO it still beats Tagan in stability...but for me personally it is to much trouble, as Enermax is not yet available locally and would have to wait for a week or more for it.

wow, okay i just set all my settings to stock voltages, what a difference that makes.

New graphics coming on non-overclocked system

Great! Looking forward to it....some of my friends are eagerly waiting for Liberty to became available in Slovenia...but most
of our computer stores are run by morons...so they are still
waiting and :slobber: :slobber: over your posts:D

ohoho...nice to see so much people here....in some days I'll try to stress the PSU with 2x7800 GTX 512 mb eVGA......:)

Indeed Cap, it seems you starting something here...though irev has already tested with two GTXs and found only the 12v rail to fluctuate a bit on full load...

Looking forward to your extended stress results :D Dont forget the pics !!! :D

Perkam

I am going to do some really huge stress testing today, I want to really kick this powersupplies ass, see if it can hold up.

I wish someone had a PP&C 510 that we could compare to.

You wouldn't want to :p: I've seen PCP&C PSUs go from 12.0v to 12.01v on load that kills some powersupplies...its way out of the Enermax's league...even knowing how good the enermax is ;)

Perkam

bladesinger, why do you think that Seasonic's graphs shows better performance than enermaxes. Those Seasoncic's 12v graph is just unrealistic, so there was inacurrate reading from mobo or program, 12v allways fluctuates a bit, but fluctuation it self is not that big of a deal, you should pay attention on how strong it is, it never falls bellow 12.2v, not nearly and vcore fluct, which is in enermax readings perfectly stable and in Seasonic fluctuates a bit, that is the most important thing.
But we must have in mind that all those readings that mb provides us have turned on many occasions really inaccurate so they sould not be trusted. Some reviews have used osciloscope to measure line fluct and it turns out that they fluct much more than you could se on this graphs.

p.s. funtech is expecting some Liberty 500, possibly some 620 real soon.

zbogorgon thanx for this information...will keep in touch with FUNTECH to get a 620W one...:)

Regards,
Primoz

Ej Zbogi is here too:D

.... regarding the Seasonic....Primoz already told me that his Seasonic was fluctuating very happily
on the 12v rail:slapass:

As for the graphs, since there was little other info to compare between Tagan EasyCon and Enermax
Libery PSUs, I compared the graphs; Gufy's Seasonic was just used for reference (but as already said,
he must have a very good PSU or he is plain lucky). I know that all PSUs fluctuate a bit, but I was
interested primarily in comparing the graphs between the Enermax and Tagan (as I had a chance to
return Tagan - but decided to stick with it for the time being).

I also know that if I use a better videocard instead of my 6600GT Extreme, my 12v rail would
probably drop even further:mad:

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Originally Posted by NickS

I have the Tagan 2Force 480w SLi (w/ the switch that allows either single rail or dual rail). you do know that u can get much better than 11.86. i used to get around that load. now it never drops below 12.10. read it in the xtreme mods section, relitively easy :D

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Thanks for the tip, might try that when my warranty is done lol , don't have a lot of money and if it breaks I want to use the warranty:stick:

But 11.86 Is very good...Why would I want it above 12Volts, it's way within the atx specs or am i missing something? :confused:

I just got a Enermax 620 W Liberty seems faulty. I connect everything turn everything on, I hit the turn on button and the fans spin for 1 sec and then it powers off again.
Now I plug in my OCZ 600W PSU in again and everything works fine..

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Originally Posted by Übergeek

But 11.86 Is very good...Why would I want it above 12Volts, it's way within the atx specs or am i missing something? :confused:

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Nah you usually dont ever wanna see anything drop below 12V, most of the additional components draw on the 12V rail, Harddrives most fans video card, lights, ect ect ect (Depending on Mobo manufacturer), if these all droop it It could alsp depreciate Vid performance or worse, anytime above 12 is always a good thing, thats why mine is modded to 12.5 so with load she stays above...
Im on an aging fortron 530 adjustable, and my 12V blows bigtime with all I run on it..

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Originally Posted by Philosophy

Nah you usually dont ever wanna see anything drop below 12V, most of the additional components draw on the 12V rail, Harddrives most fans video card, lights, ect ect ect (Depending on Mobo manufacturer), if these all droop it It could alsp depreciate Vid performance or worse, anytime above 12 is always a good thing, thats why mine is modded to 12.5 so with load she stays above...
Im on an aging fortron 530 adjustable, and my 12V blows bigtime with all I run on it..

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That's pretty extreme, thanks for the info:slap:

I didn't know, but I wont do any mods on my psu until the warranty runs out:fact:

Im poor:(

nice psu

Could this 500W PSU handle my confin (look in the singature)...:cool: Cause the 620W one is a bit too expensive in my country...:(

Regards,
Primoz

Should be no problem, IMO.
My 500W powers a 630 @ 4430Mhz, 1 gig ram, 80gb SATA, DVDRW, X800XT and D5 pump with no problems. Stable as a rock.

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Originally Posted by Jupiler

Should be no problem, IMO.
My 500W powers a 630 @ 4430Mhz, 1 gig ram, 80gb SATA, DVDRW, X800XT and D5 pump with no problems. Stable as a rock.

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Thx for the advice ;) I`ll think about the purchase throught the night...and will make a decision tomorrow :rolleyes:

Regards,
Primoz

p.s. My curent sistem is powered by LC power 550W...so the Enermax could handle it withouth problems :)

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Originally Posted by Primoz78

Could this 500W PSU handle my confin (look in the singature)...:cool: Cause the 620W one is a bit too expensive in my country...:(

Regards,
Primoz

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its expensive but very stable at high Voltages

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Originally Posted by OCPerformance

its expensive but very stable at high Voltages

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Thank you!...I have made a decision and have chosen the 620W Liberty...hope it will be an long time investment in my comp :rolleyes:

Regards,
Primoz

Very nice review:D CapFTP


Even though I'm not a fan of ZipZoomFly - this seems like a good deal on the 620W Liberty.
$149.99 after rebate with free 2 day shipping.
It is tempting :slobber: :slobber:

Nice review, never knew the PSU was modular. I'm ordering one for my new dual core SFF rig soon and modular is great for SFF :D

runmc>whats wrong with ZZF? I order from them monthly and never had a single issue. Hell I ordered a 3500+ claw, got sent a venice, diced it, and got a full refund for it because I was sent the wrong thing. Great site.

Today has arrived my new Enermax Liberty 620W finaly.. :banana: Will report sth more when will test it :)

Regards,
Primoz

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Originally Posted by Primoz78

Today has arrived my new Enermax Liberty 620W finaly.. :banana: Will report sth more when will test it :)

Regards,
Primoz

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i ordered me a 620w liberty yesterday because i fried my antec smart power 2.0 450w. look forward to seeing your results so i can see what i put alot of money into.

Because I do not have a DMM I will post just the results of OCCT....hope it could help you.

Regards,
Primoz

p.s. My resoults will be up in about 4 hours...

Just to clarify:

Those cables that have alternating pairs of molex and SATA are called "Eternity Pairs" by Enermax. The reasoning behind them is simple: Only 2 devices are supposed to be hooked up per cable. So, you can switch between molex-required hardware and SATA-required hardware without changing the cable. they are spaced close together because you are supposed to use one or the other, not both. I think it's a clever design myself, especially for those swapping hard drives.

Thanx for the tip man!...I have already put at most 2 devices on a single cable. Here are some results...my sistem is as in my signature.

BIOS screen

http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/3...20060249ph.jpg

And here OCCT screens:

3,3V line

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/541...50volt39ru.gif

5V line

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/980...50volt54ls.gif

12V line

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/454...0volt124po.gif

What can I say...I expected a flat 12V line for a 150+ EUR worth PSU but I`m happy with it :). I don`t like the cables cause it was a big think to put them on the wrihgt place (not connect!). I need about 45 minutes to put it in and pluged all the necessary cables :cool: So thats it for now...

Regards,
Primoz

I got a 500 watt one coming monday for my new bench rig then my DC SFF :D I'll post my load results with dual core @ 3.2+ high volts when I get them.

Unfortunately I had the 2 GTX but only for 3 days and had not time to test it with Liberty...hop e to make it again soon...

anyway I'm using it all day long on my daily pc and seems no problem

rails hold rock solid @ 2.85ghz dual core load but I had my 7800s on my OCZ. Seems killer so far.

just ordered one myself for my new Intel rig. got it at ZZF for $110 and free 2day shipping so it'll be here by the weekend.

Ok I put the enermax 500 liberty in my gaming rig. 2.8ghz DC opty, 7800gt sli, 2 HDD 1 optical 2 delta fans x-fi 2gb ram dfi nf4. 100% stable and it doesn't smell like a BBQ like my OCZ 520 did when I ran the video cards on it. This is one hell of a CPU. The cable layouts could have been a bit better though. The SATA then molex then SATA thing is flat out stupid.

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Ok I put the enermax 500 liberty in my gaming rig. 2.8ghz DC opty, 7800gt sli, 2 HDD 1 optical 2 delta fans x-fi 2gb ram dfi nf4. 100% stable and it doesn't smell like a BBQ like my OCZ 520 did when I ran the video cards on it. This is one hell of a CPU. The cable layouts could have been a bit better though. The SATA then molex then SATA thing is flat out stupid.

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read my post (#65) above. :toast:

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Originally Posted by afireinside

Well it's not going to explode if I use them all is it :stick: I have my ultra-d and zalman fans all on one cord.

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i'm just clarifying why you think the design of the cables is stupid. there is a reson for that design, thats my point.

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from a review ive seen the 500 and 650 watt models have the exact guts inside just the 650 has a little air deflector to keep some part inside cooler.
with that info i would think the 500 is a better buy and just change the fan for a higher cfm one and the psu should be good as the 650 if not alot better

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i'd like to see that review. my 620w has different specs than the 500w model.

Well it's not going to explode if I use them all is it :stick: I have my ultra-d and zalman fans all on one cord.

from a review ive seen the 500 and 650 watt models have the exact guts inside just the 650 has a little air deflector to keep some part inside cooler.
with that info i would think the 500 is a better buy and just change the fan for a higher cfm one and the psu should be good as the 650 if not alot better

I got the Liberty 500W also and to be honest it's been hosting my Dual Xeons, ROCKSTABLE Vcore , 12V is just superb.....


ONE KICKASS PSU :)


A real good buy.

Update:

running my finished system perfectly under full load :slobber:

4 HDDs (2 raptors 1 sata 1 ide)
1 DVD burner
1 fan controller with 2 CCFLs and 2 deltas
2x 7800GT SLI vmodded 500/1300 zalman coolers
x-fi
dfi ultra-d sli modded
2gb gskill ram
165 @ 2.8ghz 1.65v

I bought this thing for an SFF that I never ended up building and was about to sell the thing. Glad I kept it. One of my best purchases in a while.

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Update:

running my finished system perfectly under full load :slobber:

4 HDDs (2 raptors 1 sata 1 ide)
1 DVD burner
1 fan controller with 2 CCFLs and 2 deltas
2x 7800GT SLI vmodded 500/1300 zalman coolers
x-fi
dfi ultra-d sli modded
2gb gskill ram
165 @ 2.8ghz 1.65v

I bought this thing for an SFF that I never ended up building and was about to sell the thing. Glad I kept it. One of my best purchases in a while.

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AFI do you think the liberty can keep a single x1900xt stable? coz it sucks around 24A of the 12V rail and the liberty has 22A. Does he combine the two rails automatically when needed?

I honestly have no idea how dual rail works. I'm still amazed that my system runs on this. I assume the PCIE powers have a seperate rail from the system? It may or may not work.

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AFI do you think the liberty can keep a single x1900xt stable? coz it sucks around 24A of the 12V rail and the liberty has 22A. Does he combine the two rails automatically when needed?

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not AFI but I think it will. Not 100% sure how the dual rails work in the liberty but if it can keep afi's SLI setup on line and rockstable and can keep my Dual Xeon bonanza running strong at good speeds... I don't see any problem in it not working for you.

not 100% sure though but I think it will

I have one, not messed about measuring 12v line but it seems just as good as my old enermax 550w 651-ve. Its 1 * 120mm fan sounds no different to the 1 *92 + 1 * 80 mm of the old psu. Sig updated with specs.

I'm getting the 620W version and I'm having high hopes for it after reading through this thread... Not that it will break a sweat with my rig, but that's why I'm getting it :D And hopefully I can break through my invisible but clearly present OC wall... 2600 @ 1.5 with all lines fluctuating like... something that fluctuates a lot (:( :stick: insert funny here ), anyway, can't get it prime stable for more than 5 secs.

EDIT: teh speling 'n' grammer

Any idea if this would be good PSU for dual core and X1900XTX? Been having a hunch that my OCZ520 is at its limits for my current setup.

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Any idea if this would be good PSU for dual core and X1900XTX? Been having a hunch that my OCZ520 is at its limits for my current setup.

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I would like to know the same thing. No-one has actually tried it.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1932958,00.asp

This is quite enlightening.:)

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http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1932958,00.asp

This is quite enlightening.:)

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It doesn't directly answer my question, but I know it already. The 500W will run one card, but it won't have any headroom left when I upgrade to phase and try to push like 3.2ghz.. (got a 170 ccbwe 0550 upmw batch 0017) .. So ill go with the 620w, very nice, found it cheap(ish), as im also gonna give some load to the 3.3/5V with a card reader, 4 hdd's, fancontroller, dvd burner, cdrom, lots of fans... The lot.

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It doesn't directly answer my question, but I know it already. The 500W will run one card, but it won't have any headroom left when I upgrade to phase and try to push like 3.2ghz.. (got a 170 ccbwe 0550 upmw batch 0017) .. So ill go with the 620w, very nice, found it cheap(ish), as im also gonna give some load to the 3.3/5V with a card reader, 4 hdd's, fancontroller, dvd burner, cdrom, lots of fans... The lot.

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Enermax was one brand which was stated as tested not to have this problem, so according to that article u wont need to load up the other power rail.

Power Supply Test Result

PC Power & Cooling TurboCool 510 SLI Passed all tests

Antec TruePower TP2-550WEPS12V Shut down (according to AMD)

Seasonic S12 600W Power Supply Passed all tests

Silverstone SST-ST65ZF Shut down

Enermax Liberty ELT620AWT (620W) Passed all tests

Thermaltake Purepower 680APD Shut down during second 3DMark06 loop

PC Power & Cooling TurboCool 850SSI

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Enermax was one brand which was stated as tested not to have this problem, so according to that artical u wont need to load up the other power rail.

Power Supply Test Result

PC Power & Cooling TurboCool 510 SLI Passed all tests

Antec TruePower TP2-550WEPS12V Shut down (according to AMD)

Seasonic S12 600W Power Supply Passed all tests

Silverstone SST-ST65ZF Shut down

Enermax Liberty ELT620AWT (620W) Passed all tests

Thermaltake Purepower 680APD Shut down during second 3DMark06 loop

PC Power & Cooling TurboCool 850SSI

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Yes I read it :)

Anyways I ordered the 620w just to play safe.

Looks like I might be in the market for another PSU.

Soon i will also receive a Enermax liberty 620Watt (149euro). Will make a test for you guys too :)

How do those who have this and have used PC P&C rate this compared to the 510 turbo ?

well, a power surge fried my 620w liberty this morning. hopefully the overvoltage protection kicked in and hopefully no other hardware is dead. newegg is awesome, so i got an rma number and shipped it back for replacement today already.

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well, a power surge fried my 620w liberty this morning. hopefully the overvoltage protection kicked in and hopefully no other hardware is dead. newegg is awesome, so i got an rma number and shipped it back for replacement today already.

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looks like the overvolt protection worked. nothing else was dead, unlike the antec which took my mobo with it.

An enermax eg-651 550w silent whisper (old model pre fan adjustable), blew when I switched the wall socket on. I guess that was good considering that I had 2 power bars inbetween which did nothing. Sounds like its a common problem that should be dealt with by a internal circuit breaker rather than a fuse or blown hardware as is the case atm.

I have been building up a system based around an AMD Opteron 170 dual core processor. The current spec is in my signature, but I will be adding a Netcell Revolution 64 RAID card and three more Maxtor Diamond MAX 10 250 GB SATA HD's to it soon.

Anyway, I had what I thought was an excellent PSU (Vantec Stealth 470 W) for what I was running (but knew I needed more soon). Unfortunately, my system's OC stability was all over the map. One day I noticed that all my rails were underperforming at 2700 MHz stress test with dual Prime 95. The 12 V rail was the worst offender at 11.62V.

I went PSU shopping, and seriously considered three PSu's: The PC Power & Cooling 850W, the OCZ Powerstream 600W, and the new Silverstone Zeus 750W.

The PC Power & Cooling PSU's look great, and appear to be very well made. Certainly, the reviewers seem to like them. But to me, they seemed a bit overpriced, would have been a pain in the butt to order in, and lacked the modular cable design that I found so appealling.

The OCZ Powerstream 600W PSU looked promising, and most people I knew who had them were very happy. But I was put off by the glowing fans, and the lack of a modular cable design.

The new Silverstone Zeus 750 W PSU's specifications were very appealing. While it didn't have the modular cable system either, its extra power was very persuasive. If the Silverstone's release hadn't been put back until April, I would have likely ordered it, as I liked having another 130 W of power in reserve.

Ultimately, I purchased the new Enermax Liberty 600 W PSU (for $185.99 Canadian) and this is what I got:

My Mushkin Redline XP4000 1 GB modules suddenly became more overclockable (going from 255 to 262 MHz).

The length of time that my system was able to run a "stable" dual Prime 95 was suddenly increased. I am currently Dual Priming at 2650 MHz for nearly 13 hrs (going full 24 hrs). While I have run a higher overclock before, it almost always failed within first 2-3 hrs of dual Prime 95.

Once I get better cooling for my cpu, I believe I will be Dual Prime 95 stable @ 2750-2800 MHz range, and I am sure the new PSU will have something to do with getting me there.

According to Smart Guardian, my current voltages are:

CPU=1.29V (1.325 V in BIOS) ATX+12.0V=12.29V
LDT Bus=1.28V (1.30 V in BIOS) ATX +5.0V=5.06V
Chipset=1.53V ATX +3.3V=3.34V
DRAM=2.76V (2.77 in BIOS) VSB +5.0V=5.06V
VBAT +3.0V=3.08V

In the end, I gained a lot from the PSU upgrade, but the most important thing for me was piece of mind. I feel confident the new PSU will meet the needs of my system as it grows and evolves.

And if I ever DO feel the need for more power, my Silverstone Temjin T07 case has room in it for a 2nd PSU just like this one:D

one of the best PSU I´ve ever had ....

Nicely done review.

I will get the Enermax 620W Liberty next week after i received my new X1900XT ;)

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