ATI RD580 Dual x16 Crossfire: Reviews And Info

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Because X1800XT Crossfire and The RD580 chipset have not yet officially launched, ATI has asked that we not publish hard benchmarks of our results, since they will likely change in final release versions. We can, however, talk in general terms about performance. Those of you who believe ATi is far behind nVidia are in for a surprise.

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http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2609

Asus A8R32-MVP: First ATI RD580 Review

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The A8R32-MVP Deluxe provides the best dual x16 video performance that you can currently buy. A pair of X1900XT video cards in Crossfire mode is the current best in video, and the Asus A8R32-MVP drives this video package effortlessly when coupled with an appropriate high wattage power supply. The feature set is competitive with any Socket 939 available and also includes on-board high-definition audio that is not available on current NVIDIA Dual x16 SLI boards. The design is also elegantly simple with an RD580 chipset designed from the ground up for high-speed overclocking and for Dual x16 video.

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http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2697

ASUS A8R32 MVP Deluxe w/ EAX1900CROSSFIRE
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=3256

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While the exact performance results achieved comparing X1800XT Crossfire with 7800GTX SLI can not yet be published, we can tell you we benchmarked with F.E.A.R., Quake 4, Splinter Cell - Chaos Theory, Doom 3, Far Cry, and 3DMark05 at 1600x1200 resolution with 4X AA and 8X AF enabled. ATI X1800XT Crossfire won every benchmark over nVidia 7800GTX SLI in these tests.

We also ran standard scores (1024x768) for Aquamark 3, 3Dmark03, and 3Dmark05. Once again Crossfire X1800XT outperformed nVidia 7800GTX SLI in every benchmark.

We then ran all the same tests in single video mode, comparing a single X1800XT on the ATI RD480 to a single 7800GTX on the ATI A8N32-SLI. Benchmarks were run under the same conditions as Crossfire/SLI - 1600x1200/4xAA/8xAF in games and "standard" scores in 3Dmarks and Aquamark 3. Once again the ATI X1800XT on the RD580 was the winner in every benchmark. It is clear the new 5.11 drivers do make a difference in Open GL games like Quake 4 and Doom 3. Even more exciting, the RD580/X1800XT Crossfire will be a potent graphics combination.

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Looking good..

what about when they run COmparede cards ie: 7800GTX 512 against the x1800xt???
It all means :banana::banana::banana::banana: atm as neither manufacture ahs settled on one thing

Here's to hoping that ATI delivers in January..

They didn't run the x1800xt crossfire vs 7800gtx 512 sli, but in the article, they said that the 7800gtx 512 would more than likely win out there. According to ATI, the x1800xt will compete with the 7800gtx and the x1800xtPE will compete with the 7800gtx 512.

If the r580 is released with 24 pipes, how much does that change performance with todays card?

By winning over the regular 7800gtx it shows that the performance in crossfire is good. All i care about for the moment.

ATI: "blah blah, blabbity blah, furthermore...blah blah ablahahhsdgsdhas hsh, BLAH"

nVidia: "Here is another strong card available NOW"

Who do you think I listen to?

Why should anyone care who you listen to? Do what you want.

ATI mobos partners must be mad at them, who is gonna buy the current offering now that ATI let this cat out of the bag.

Anandtech has gotten a test board from ATI featuring ATI's upcoming line of crossfire motherboards with dual 16x pci-e lanes and a host of new features. As with most of these new crossfire boards, yet another revolutionary feature for AMD Overclocking fans:

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Overclockers are used to having to drop HTT to 3X or 600HTT for their highest overclocks because the limit on current AMD HTT is 1000. RD580 requires no drop in HTT for even the highest overclocks. We were able to achieve overclocks in excess of 300 with HTT set at 5X. Utilities which showed HTT frequency indicated we were actually running at greater than 1600 HTT at these settings. It is clear ATI has found a way around the current AMD limitation of 1000HTT, which will be a breath of fresh air to those trying to squeeze the most performance from their Athlon 64 processor.

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http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2609

Thx to News Staff Member OneThreeHill for pointing this out :up: Do keep in mind that this is still two chipset revisions away, as the RX482 just came out, and the RX485 will come thereafter before this.

Perkam

at is down :/

yeah what's up with Anandtech's server issues lately?

it was too clear to see crossfire is powerfull than sli so it is not a suprise to see cf > sli while single nvidia card may give more performance then single ati

I think one of the advantages of ATI's Crossfire is that it's not as nearly reliant on the CPU as SLI is. The compositing engine handles most of everything. AFR uses little CPU, yes, but split screen load balancing is quite challenging, especially the faster the graphics cards involved.

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ATI was roundly criticized for the inability of X850XT Crossfire to run at resolutions above 1600x1200, even though most end-users are not actually able to run at higher resolutions with today's most common 19" and 20" flat-panel displays. We confirmed that the new compositor chips used in X1800XT Crossfire do indeed run fine in Crossfire mode at 2048x1536. ATI tells us there is no limitation in the X1800XT compositor that would prevent even higher resolutions from working as they should.

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:banana:

I dunno if this is going to be released this year, but it would be wise for them to do so.

Perkam

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Originally Posted by Anand

ATI's chipset Engineering team seem determined to take ATI chipsets to new levels to grab the attention of AMD hobbyists. They seem right on target, since the AMD market has been, and continues to be, driven by the computer enthusiast. Our preview of RD580 on the ATI Manta Reference board showed us some exciting developments are on the way from ATI. Dual x16 video capabilities in a single chip 44 PCIe lane package certainly performed extremely well compared to the just released Dual x16 from nVidia.

The possibility of HTT ratio-free overclocking will also interest the real overclockers out there. Running over 300FSB with a 5X HTT multiplier with current Athlon64 chips seemed an impossibility until we saw it working for ourselves in RD580. We are also glad to see ATI continue their commitment to quality audio on the AMD platform with continued support for High Definition audio codecs. Audio is one area where ATI is clearly outperforming their AMD chipset competition.

The comparison of the RD580 Dual x16 motherboard with X1800XT Crossfire to Asus A8N32-SLI with 7800GTX Crossfire seems a logical comparison to this reviewer. Comparing these results, ATI wins every benchmark. That means if RD580 and Crossfire were shipping today the graphics war would be on and plenty hot. The reality, however, is that X1800XT Crossfire and X1800XT PE are coming soon, and ATI RD580 will likely land in early to mid January. We also expect the ATI R580 GPU to land about the same time, and ATI is hard at work on Socket M2 offerings to be launched with that AMD socket.

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This RD580 looks like a killer chipset with 300HTT with 5XHTT and the news about the X1800 XTPE.

I don't get it....he posted the same thread...hours before you did :confused: :confused:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=80179

So....why did they test CF 1800xt's vs. SLI 256mb gtx's instead of 512's?

Also, I bet ATi's mobo partners are gettin mad, this is going to kill the sales of this gen's mobo's, and their next set as well!

As for AT's slowness currently, I bet NGO are hammering the site(by making a website that keeps reloading images non-stop) as they still claim AT stole their story about the 7800GS.

they're releasing samples of the next generation chipset before the first acutaly starts to kick off? Sorry, I'd rather have something now then constantly waiting for their "next best thing". I also think it's pretty funny to compare an un-released chipset design to one that is approaching one year of age. I suppose it's fair to compare a X1800XT to a 6800 vanilla too. I suppose my point is ; of course it's better, it's expected to be better because its (probaly) going to have a 1.5year technological advantage over Nforce 4, if it were not, then someone should be fired.

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I dunno if this is going to be released this year, but it would be wise for them to do so.

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if they do, I probaly wouldn't buy another ATi product for a while, or at least until they get themselves out of the cycle of releasing a generation of products, dumping support for it when they find out their competetor has out-matched them and move on to the next generation.

So they compare the 7800gtx 256 to the x1800xt CF when the 7800gtx 512mb is NV's high end? Gee, that's a brilliant move there, now isn't it?

As for X1800XT CF, don't expect it til next year...

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Originally Posted by DilTech

So....why did they test CF 1800xt's vs. SLI 256mb gtx's instead of 512's?

Also, I bet ATi's mobo partners are gettin mad, this is going to kill the sales of this gen's mobo's, and their next set as well!

As for AT's slowness currently, I bet NGO are hammering the site(by making a website that keeps reloading images non-stop) as they still claim AT stole their story about the 7800GS.

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Yea...could be...DDOS...AGAIN! :slapass:

Considering they're comparing the parts that are supposed to compete against each other then it makes perfect sense. ATI's assertion is that the PE part is the true competitor to the Ultra, which is how it has been since last gen.

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Originally Posted by Tim

I don't get it....he posted the same thread...hours before you did :confused: :confused:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=80179

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Thx, Threads Merged :)

Perkam

As long as they bring faster stuff im happy =)

Well Kadaj it's all about money and identification with a brand not about fairness....
Of course you'll get better hardware if you wait ...;-)

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Originally Posted by Bar81

Considering they're comparing the parts that are supposed to compete against each other then it makes perfect sense. ATI's assertion is that the PE part is the true competitor to the Ultra, which is how it has been since last gen.

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Look at it this way... PE isn't out, x1800xt is, therefore you have to compare the best from both brands.

PE won't be out til next year, probably Q1(R580 pushed back perhaps?), so it technically IS x1800xt vs 7800GTX 512mb.

NVidia have other cards to face off with the x1800xtpe.

So GTX 256 has no one to compete with ?
As i see it ATi released XT to compete with GTX 256 cuz there was no 512 then.
Now with 512 ATi need to release..something =)

Um... Oh man, I just realized that I have never fiddled with the htt multiplier when I OC. So, that means I am currently running at 1375 HTT. LOL, I'm gonna go lower the multi to 4x and get it back down to 1000's. I can't believe I completely forgot about this.

GTX 256 competes with the X1800xt 256, which isn't out either...Not even review samples on that card.

No... the XT 512 was always meant to compete with the GTX 256. And it was clearly stated in the article that the PE is competition to the GTX 512. The XT 256 is somewhere in the middle and currently isn't a great choice because you might as well go for the XL 256 and OC it. I don't expect as many XT 256 cards to sell because they are't competing at any particular price point, they aren't the best card but they aren't priced differently enough from the card above and below to make it worth buying. The reason no one reviewed them is becuase it isn't an iteresting card and there IS nothing to compare it to.

I'm really looking forward to this chipset as it'll give me a reason to upgrade from the Asrock I have now. Unless nVidea can make a chipset with no HTT limitations.

How can it be possible to run that high HTT ?
Whats different is it to Nforce4 ?

It's not about what an article claims..

Competition works as this, Top end NVidia vs. Top end ATi. Right now, that's the 7800GTX 512mb vs. the x1800XT. The X1800xtpe will have a different beast to worry about, the 7800gtx 512mb is a limited edition card, only meant to last til Q1, in Q1 NVidia will drop one of two beasts. 90nm G70, or the g80 depending on what ATi do.... Keep in mind, the x1800xtpe won't be out til q1.

Just because ATi says their card isn't meant to compete against the 7800gtx 512mb doesn't mean it's not it's current competition, after all, it *was* released 1 week after official availability of the x1800xt(in-store time was only 3 days apart). Same timeframe = they compete. End of story. After all, the X1800xt came out 5 months after the 7800gtx 256mb, and the 7800gtx 512mb came out RIGHT AFTER the x1800xt. So, what's competiting with what here?

You see, the XTPE isn't out, so it's not currently to compete with anything, because paper can't beat hardware in anything. Therefore, it's the X1800XT 512mb vs. the 7800GTX 512mb. Is this that hard for you to understand?

That's like saying intel's cedar mill is suppose to compete with AMD's socket M2, or AMD's x2 3800+ is suppose to compete with conroe.

No, if X1800XT had been released when it supposed to be released it would had the 256GTX to compete with.
Nvidia released a faster GTX when XT was released, and ATi will release a faster card to try to take the "crown" back.
The PE whatever it will be cant compete with 90nm G70, that would be one huge failure.
And what can the PE be ? 1.1ns is the fastest you can get so max 1800 on ram and GPU to 700 max i guess ?
But reading anandtech and other sources the R520 will fade out and be replaced by R580 so finding the X1800XT PE card cant be that easy =)

But comparing top end cards can be done 512GTX vs 1800XT.

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Originally Posted by DilTech

You see, the XTPE isn't out, so it's not currently to compete with anything, because paper can't beat hardware in anything. Therefore, it's the X1800XT 512mb vs. the 7800GTX 512mb. Is this that hard for you to understand?

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Why are you so upset that people are comparing the x1800XT to the 7800GTX 256MB? It doesn't matter what you say or what anyone else says, ATI said the x1800XT was aimed at the 7800GTX 256MB. Period. You want to do comparisons with the x1800XT and the 512MB GTX, fine you do that. An OCed x1800XT can beat a stock 512MB GTX, but not an OCed 512MB GTX.

Biggest deciding factor in what to compare and what to not compare is price range. x1800XT is well within the price range of the 256MB GTX.

Now ATI is working on something that will compete with the 7800GTX 512MB. Is it really that hard for you to understand?

Interesting to observe how certain forum members seem to decide what competes with what in the hardware business, and what doesn't. Actually, everything out there competes with everything, some with price (not to be confused with MSRP), some with performance/features etc. Dil has a point though, vapourized paper rarely competes with anything. ;)

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Well agree on that, i wonder what happend to that HUGE shipment with XT cards to US and europe that was supposed to land friday/monday.
Dont see them anywhere.
I get the feeling that X1800XT and current crossfire chipset is not good and they dont really want to continue them.

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Originally Posted by ahmad

Why are you so upset that people are comparing the x1800XT to the 7800GTX 256MB? It doesn't matter what you say or what anyone else says, ATI said the x1800XT was aimed at the 7800GTX 256MB. Period. You want to do comparisons with the x1800XT and the 512MB GTX, fine you do that. An OCed x1800XT can beat a stock 512MB GTX, but not an OCed 512MB GTX.

Biggest deciding factor in what to compare and what to not compare is price range. x1800XT is well within the price range of the 256MB GTX.

Now ATI is working on something that will compete with the 7800GTX 512MB. Is it really that hard for you to understand?

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If you overclock one card and compare it to another, you have to overclock the other too.... Otherwise it's not a fair comparison.

Also, $599 - $699 vs. $400 - $470? That's not well within price range... That's $200 difference! Now, you can get the 7800gtx 512mb for $699, which matches up with the $699 alot of stores want for the x1800xt... That's an even price match!

ATi is working on something to compete, something we won't see until NVidia release their new card, and it's almost time for the R580. To compete, the card MUST already be there. The x1800xt competes with the 512mb 7800gtx, get that thru your head. High end vs. high end, and both fall in the same price range. After all, MSRP is only $50 difference between the two, compared to almost $150 between the x1800xt and 7800gtx. End of story.

You're saying we should compare a brand new card against a card that's been out for 5 months instead of the card that came out at the same time? That's just ridiculous, are you completely out of your mind? Just because a company doesn't want their card compared against something faster, doesn't mean that's how it works....

Right now ATi is in a VERY bad position....Paper can't compete with hardware, and neither can vapor(unless there's condensation in the vapor, then it'll beat the hardware :lol: :spill: )

I think we can argue this all day so lets not..just forget it.

Just found this..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...52#post1139652

*snip* :)

wow Ubermann i couldn't find that ANYwhere on Asus website...nice.

Perkam

Well ATI is in a bad position because they had delays because bugs so yes they are a few months late with those chips...and the GTX 512 MB as an U on some chips and came 5 months after the GTX 256MB....as a refresh...so it s their ULTRA...it has more than just +256mb....

Of course we can only compare hardware in stores and not a 90 nm g70 or a g80 or an r 580 but Anand can do it cause they have some interesting hardware.... :)

So your logic is biased....lol

So I dont understand why ATI cannot take a few months to refresh its 1800XT like nvidia did....they will eventually catch up don't you think so? ;)

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Originally Posted by DilTech

If you overclock one card and compare it to another, you have to overclock the other too.... Otherwise it's not a fair comparison.

Also, $599 - $699 vs. $400 - $470? That's not well within price range... That's $200 difference! Now, you can get the 7800gtx 512mb for $699, which matches up with the $699 alot of stores want for the x1800xt... That's an even price match!

ATi is working on something to compete, something we won't see until NVidia release their new card, and it's almost time for the R580. To compete, the card MUST already be there. The x1800xt competes with the 512mb 7800gtx, get that thru your head. High end vs. high end, and both fall in the same price range. After all, MSRP is only $50 difference between the two, compared to almost $150 between the x1800xt and 7800gtx. End of story.

You're saying we should compare a brand new card against a card that's been out for 5 months instead of the card that came out at the same time? That's just ridiculous, are you completely out of your mind? Just because a company doesn't want their card compared against something faster, doesn't mean that's how it works....

Right now ATi is in a VERY bad position....Paper can't compete with hardware, and neither can vapor(unless there's condensation in the vapor, then it'll beat the hardware :lol: :spill: )

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DING DING DING, we have a winner! agree 100%

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Originally Posted by Ubermann

I think we can argue this all day so lets not..just forget it.

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i think youve just been KO'd my man

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Originally Posted by Ubermann

I think we can argue this all day so lets not..just forget it.

Talking about PE:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...52#post1139652

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Nice! I still dont get why they have the heatsinks exhasting all that heat into the case instead of out the back?? seems really dumb..

Guys, the discussion on Asus's new overclocked XT with pics is here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...52#post1139652 ... this thread is for discussion on the features of the upcoming Crossfire enabled chipset, the RD580.

Plus I've worked with Dil to reduce the talk here of what competes with what, so that wont be tolerated in here anymore either ;) Thx.

Perkam

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Originally Posted by saaya

at is down :/

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Nah, they are just being slashdoted because they unassemble an XBox 360 :)

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Originally Posted by flopper

If the r580 is released with 24 pipes, how much does that change performance with todays card?

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that will change performance a huge ammount

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Originally Posted by freecableguy

ATI: "blah blah, blabbity blah, furthermore...blah blah ablahahhsdgsdhas hsh, BLAH"

nVidia: "Here is another strong card available NOW"

Who do you think I listen to?

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true

Some decent crossfire video cards would help, lol.

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Originally Posted by perkam

Anandtech has gotten a test board from ATI featuring ATI's upcoming line of crossfire motherboards with dual 16x pci-e lanes and a host of new features. As with most of these new crossfire boards, yet another revolutionary feature for AMD Overclocking fans:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2609

Thx to News Staff Member OneThreeHill for pointing this out :up: Do keep in mind that this is still two chipset revisions away, as the RX482 just came out, and the RX485 will come thereafter before this.

Perkam

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[HTML]and ATI RD580 will likely land in early to mid January. We also expect the ATI R580 GPU to land about the same time, and ATI is hard at work on Socket M2 offerings to be launched with that AMD socket.[/HTML] - quote from last page of the article. This new chipset doesn't seem to be too far off, but knowing ATI lately...

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Originally Posted by freecableguy

ATI: "blah blah, blabbity blah, furthermore...blah blah ablahahhsdgsdhas hsh, BLAH"

nVidia: "Here is another strong card available NOW"

Who do you think I listen to?

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Yeah thats harsh. Although your a reviewer the people still get what they want/like not what others tell them to.

My personal opinion: I like whats performs best and has a competitive price. Currently that option is Nvidia.

However doesnt mean that ATI is a POS and is incapable of comming out with anything good because they have screwed up in the past,

Look at last at year it was the complete opposite. ATIS R9800/9850 XT where beating the CRAp out of nvidia. They beat nvidia worse than nvidia is beating ATI now.

If ATI is comming out with something promising soon we should give them a chance and see if whatever they release is any good and if so and it suits us then we buy it.,

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Originally Posted by Bar81

Considering they're comparing the parts that are supposed to compete against each other then it makes perfect sense. ATI's assertion is that the PE part is the true competitor to the Ultra, which is how it has been since last gen.

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7800gtx 512 exist now the PE does not. top card from each company is a good match up. Perhaps we shouldnt compare dual core p4s with amd x2's because the p4 platform was made to compete with amd xps.

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Originally Posted by zabomb4163

7800gtx 512 exist now the PE does not. top card from each company is a good match up. Perhaps we shouldnt compare dual core p4s with amd x2's because the p4 platform was made to compete with amd xps.

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Well, if you want to look at it another way, you can compare anything to anything but typically, you look at MSRP/price when comparing products. Comparing a more expensive product against a less expensive one can be done but isn't really a useful barometer of anything unless it's whether the more expensive product's benefits justify the higher going rate.

"ATI was quite clear they will be introducing a "PE version" of X1800XT to compete with 7800GTX 512"

as far as i care if the PE will be good competition for the 512 gtx they may release it two months later than announced.. remember these two should be the best and last cards of the generation, there's gonna be a good period of time before something better shows up.
hats off to nvidia for good timing.

Well how can you compared a cherry picked or tweaked chip set (for 5 months);(noone seem to agree....)with a normal 1800 xt?

I would give them at least a bit of time to cherry pick or tweak it to....

That is common sense! ;)

The only thing i find annoying with this compare thing is why cant you compare the PE to GTX512 ?
Why should PE go against some new card ?
If we will see any PE cards at all..

Well...it's plain to see that Ati is sucking hind teat this go round. We'll have to see if this improves with the (hopefully ontime) release of the R580 against nVidia's G71 or whatever they cook up to go up against it.

will be will be will be going to going to... I am really tired of hearing that about ati's products... I don't care what they cough up in January, their name has been tarnished for me from all of this paper launch crap... I was a big ATI enthusiast also when I had my 9700Pro with the shim removed and tweak monster ram sinks on it.. that was a great card. Oh well... maybe the 580 will be the new 9700Pro. who knows... I hope they start delivering their product on time...

I don't care what either ATI or Nvidia have now or don't have now at market down here in Australia.
The fact of the matter for me, and I'm a keen gamer is that my "older" X800XT with "only" 10% overclock does very well in current games like Quake 4, CoD 2, etc... and will definately see me out to when ATI 580 cards are available down here in Oz.

my 2 cents. :)

RD580 to be launched on March 2

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=551116

Yep. I saw that too. :)

Can anyone translate that for me? I understand they speak of the HT gains, the dual 16x...But they speak of crossfire and the compositing engine, and from my babelfish translation I couldn't make out if it's on-board now, or it will still require the current mastercard setup, although I *think* the later.

Also interesting in that article is how they speak of ATi's 90nm gfx cards going to 80nm (half-node), and that yields are good in the "trial stage". Q2-Q3 (June/July?) availability, so that furthermore makes me believe a 80nm GDDR4 R580 is coming, and right on time to compete with G80. Sweet.

ABIT thought it was going to launch on Feb 23rd:

http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/ne...?id=1139064257

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29737

Cool. Any signs of Sapphire yet? Pure Innovation? I love those looks.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2697

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Originally Posted by xs64

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2697

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Asus A8R32-MVP :)

No sign of Sapphire X16 MB yet

I predict sapphire will be really smart and release a single pci-e version of the rd580 lol :p

Perkam

The anantech review has been pulled :(

This is the official one for reviews then gentlemen ;)

Just post them as you see em here, and me and oth will try our best to add them to the first post :)

Perkam

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Originally Posted by perkam

I predict sapphire will be really smart and release a single pci-e version of the rd580 lol :p

Perkam

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I certainly hope they do.

A8R32-MVP Deluxe:
http://www.vrforums.com/showthread.php?p=1513400

Is this suppose to be a budget board or something? Another 3 phase? Isn't this going backwards?

The one at vrzone is the deluxe version...hence black pcb.

Perkam

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Originally Posted by rcofell

The anantech review has been pulled :(

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Those who missed the review can see the benchmarks here
http://www.hardspell.com/news/showco...97&pageid=6793

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Originally Posted by perkam

I predict sapphire will be really smart and release a single pci-e version of the rd580 lol :p

Perkam

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Not likely to happen on the enthusiast front, I have my sources :)

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Originally Posted by chew*

Not likely to happen on the enthusiast front, I have my sources :)

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I certainly hope they release both versions for the enthusiast. I could care less about xfire and how high I can score in 3dmark.

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Originally Posted by situman

I certainly hope they release both versions for the enthusiast. I could care less about xfire and how high I can score in 3dmark.

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somehow i think Perkam meant it wouldnt make any sense for Sapphire to do so, because a singlecard RD580 board would be like an RD480 which is what you have. Ofcourse RD580 is more mature and has better overclocking but for the basic eye it's just the same.

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Originally Posted by biohead

somehow i think Perkam meant it wouldnt make any sense for Sapphire to do so, because a singlecard RD580 board would be like an RD480 which is what you have. Ofcourse RD580 is more mature and has better overclocking but for the basic eye it's just the same.

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To say that the majority of high end ocers are dreaming of this board every day till its release would be an understatement...the rd480 just isn't up to par with nf4 under extended ln2 sessions. Watch 20k in 05 fall with this board.

Yea I meant that a single card would be mostly useless but perhaps if they can make it significantly cheaper than the cf board, it could sell.

Perkam

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Originally Posted by biohead

somehow i think Perkam meant it wouldnt make any sense for Sapphire to do so, because a singlecard RD580 board would be like an RD480 which is what you have. Ofcourse RD580 is more mature and has better overclocking but for the basic eye it's just the same.

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I knew what he meant, but I am just saying there still a lot of people that can't afford or doesn't want to spend over a $1000 just for a pair of vidcards. Sure it's nice to have the option to with a xfire board, but to some its just wasted space where another PCI slot would be more useful.

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I knew what he meant, but I am just saying there still a lot of people that can't afford or doesn't want to spend over a $1000 just for a pair of vidcards. Sure it's nice to have the option to with a xfire board, but to some its just wasted space where another PCI slot would be more useful.

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... like me :) Good point.

so anyone know a release date currently?


like the 24th?

i think i saw 23rd

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i think i saw 23rd

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i saw March 2

Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe available @komplett
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29845

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i saw March 2

Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe available @komplett
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29845

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i heard March 1st

couple of things from the inq:

http://theinquirer.net/?article=29830

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The motherboards are ready for retail action, with minor tweaks being solved by BIOS updates.

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RD580, or the Radeon Xpress 3200 will bring 32 PCI Express lanes dedicated to two PEG (PCI Express Graphics) x16 slots, which are finally working with all 16 data lanes, filling every board with data at a full rate of eight gigabytes a second. While high-end hardware such as X1800 or X1900 won't feel as much of an performance boost, our sources are telling us that the real benefactor will be "mainstream CrossFire", ATI's name for paired X1300 or X1600 boards. When comparing the new RD580 to an older RD480-based board, X1300 should yield a boost ranging from 15-35%, while X1600 should spread the wings by around 20-40%.

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The power of RD580

Kinc takes 05 WR w/X1900 CF & RD580!!! @19442
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=90293

EDIT: New World Record w/X1900 CF & RD580!!! macci & Sampsa @19581
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...nc#post1297144

Has its own thread now oth...but yea...amazing...

Perkam

Its about time:)

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Has its own thread now oth...but yea...amazing...

Perkam

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At the rate they are going. You need to post new threads everyday :)

Just have the asus board here......hope it goes welll......!!!

Have ''some'' cards too over here to test....:D

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...X1900Tower.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...Tower_Zoom.jpg

Single run X1900 For XS
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...1900Single.jpg

CrossFire For XS...:D

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25.../XS_1900CF.jpg

haha that is awesome.

haha :banana::banana::banana::banana:!! lol.. nice

Very Nice Gorillakos !!! :p:

Love that crossfire :D but where's the dongle ?? :lol:

Perkam

Reminds me of when I was dealing in X800 XT PEs. Had tons lying around (hell, maybe I created the shortage :P)

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2703

A. We have a thread for this.
B. DFI RD580 info is in new thread :)

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B. DFI RD580 info is in new thread :)

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There are other brands, too
And sorry Perkam, I forgot about the RD580 thread.

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There are other brands, too

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I know :) But guess which one (even the top ocers) care about most ;)

Perkam

RD580
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/blog.php?tid=560832

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I know :) But guess which one (even the top ocers) care about most ;)

Perkam

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I could't care about the DFI because of the many problems with their boards. Although it will be the best overclocker, I don't want stuff to die on me for no reason. As this is a new chipset and it isn't rushed, it might be a prejudice, but I don't like to risk sudden deaths in any way, because I need a rig more than just benching ;) I took the Asus, it is so-weet :woot:

RD580 comes with a new SouthBridge
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29944

A. I'm surprised that no one has posted that ZZF has the ASUS one listed on their site for sell now.
B. I thought the ASUS was supposed to be in the $120-150 range? Is this just ZZF attempt at ripoff while they can?

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=247069

ASUS A8R32 MVP Deluxe w/ EAX1900CROSSFIRE
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=3256